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Group: runacc Message: 3054 From: Byron Connell Date: 6/3/2016
Subject: Re: Budgets
Group: runacc Message: 3055 From: casamai Date: 6/3/2016
Subject: SLCG Costume-Con Reviw: Panel Programming
Group: runacc Message: 3056 From: Kaijugal . Date: 6/3/2016
Subject: Re: Budgets
Group: runacc Message: 3057 From: spiritof_76 Date: 6/4/2016
Subject: Re: Budgets
Group: runacc Message: 3058 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/4/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con Review: The Hotel
Group: runacc Message: 3059 From: casamai Date: 6/4/2016
Subject: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Friday Night Social and Single Pattern
Group: runacc Message: 3060 From: casamai Date: 6/4/2016
Subject: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show
Group: runacc Message: 3061 From: casamai Date: 6/4/2016
Subject: SLCG CostumeCon 34 Review: Fantasy and Science Fiction Masquerade
Group: runacc Message: 3062 From: casamai Date: 6/4/2016
Subject: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Historical Masquerade
Group: runacc Message: 3063 From: casamai Date: 6/4/2016
Subject: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Judgeing for the F & SF
Group: runacc Message: 3064 From: casamai Date: 6/4/2016
Subject: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Doll Show
Group: runacc Message: 3065 From: casamai Date: 6/4/2016
Subject: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Random notes and wrap up
Group: runacc Message: 3066 From: Jamie Butler Date: 6/4/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Historical Masquerade
Group: runacc Message: 3067 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/5/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Historical Masquerade
Group: runacc Message: 3068 From: ma0902432 Date: 6/5/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show
Group: runacc Message: 3069 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/5/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show
Group: runacc Message: 3070 From: Byron Connell Date: 6/5/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show
Group: runacc Message: 3071 From: spiritof_76 Date: 6/5/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show
Group: runacc Message: 3072 From: ECM Date: 6/5/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show
Group: runacc Message: 3073 From: ECM Date: 6/5/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show
Group: runacc Message: 3074 From: Trudy Leonard Date: 6/6/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show
Group: runacc Message: 3075 From: ma0902432 Date: 6/6/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show
Group: runacc Message: 3076 From: ma0902432 Date: 6/6/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show
Group: runacc Message: 3077 From: Andrew Trembley Date: 6/6/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show
Group: runacc Message: 3078 From: Aurora Celeste Date: 6/7/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show
Group: runacc Message: 3079 From: Sharon Sbarsky Date: 6/7/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show
Group: runacc Message: 3080 From: ma0902432 Date: 6/7/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show
Group: runacc Message: 3081 From: Byron Connell Date: 6/7/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show
Group: runacc Message: 3082 From: von_drago Date: 6/7/2016
Subject: CC34 Future Fashion Folio
Group: runacc Message: 3083 From: von_drago Date: 6/10/2016
Subject: Re: CC34 Future Fashion Folio
Group: runacc Message: 3084 From: von_drago Date: 6/10/2016
Subject: Costume-Con “Traditions”
Group: runacc Message: 3085 From: Betsy Marks Delaney Date: 6/10/2016
Subject: Re: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”
Group: runacc Message: 3086 From: Vicky Young Date: 6/10/2016
Subject: Re: CC34 Future Fashion Folio
Group: runacc Message: 3087 From: Byron P Connell Date: 6/11/2016
Subject: Re: CC34 Future Fashion Folio
Group: runacc Message: 3088 From: Sharon Sbarsky Date: 6/11/2016
Subject: Re: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”
Group: runacc Message: 3089 From: Aurora Celeste Date: 6/11/2016
Subject: Re: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”
Group: runacc Message: 3090 From: von_drago Date: 6/11/2016
Subject: Re: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”
Group: runacc Message: 3091 From: von_drago Date: 6/11/2016
Subject: Re: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”
Group: runacc Message: 3092 From: Byron P Connell Date: 6/11/2016
Subject: Re: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”
Group: runacc Message: 3093 From: ma0902432 Date: 6/12/2016
Subject: Re: Costume-Con “Traditions”
Group: runacc Message: 3094 From: ma0902432 Date: 6/12/2016
Subject: Re: Re: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”
Group: runacc Message: 3095 From: ma0902432 Date: 6/12/2016
Subject: Re: Re: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”
Group: runacc Message: 3096 From: spiritof_76 Date: 6/12/2016
Subject: Re: CC34 Future Fashion Folio
Group: runacc Message: 3097 From: ECM Date: 6/14/2016
Subject: Re: CC34 Future Fashion Folio
Group: runacc Message: 3098 From: ECM Date: 6/14/2016
Subject: RE: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”
Group: runacc Message: 3099 From: ECM Date: 6/14/2016
Subject: RE: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”
Group: runacc Message: 3100 From: Trudy Leonard Date: 6/16/2016
Subject: Re: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”
Group: runacc Message: 3101 From: costumrs Date: 6/16/2016
Subject: Re: Costume-Con “Traditions”
Group: runacc Message: 3102 From: Kevin Roche Date: 6/16/2016
Subject: Re: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”
Group: runacc Message: 3103 From: Byron Connell Date: 6/18/2016
Subject: Fwd: [SLCG-X] SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Green Room

 


 

Group: runacc Message: 3054 From: Byron Connell Date: 6/3/2016
Subject: Re: Budgets

 

Costume-cons aren’t an ICG function. However, we are two closely allied organizations, so could the ICG provide a repository on its web site for data from various costume-cons? You may want to raise that with Philip.

 

I’m not certain that data from CC30 are necessarily too old to be useable. They can be adjusted for inflation. Recognizing that general inflation rates are not necessarily exact for our events, they’re still better than nothing. The data can further be divided between fixed and variable expenditures (such as expenditures per member for badges or expenditures per masquerade entrant for food). That would allow present and future concoms to use the updated data to benchmark their own estimates.
Byron

 

 

On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:36 AM, beckieboo817@yahoo.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I have my people who are helping me to run CC36 requesting Actual Budgets for previous cons. The only one I have is for CC30 thanks to Elaine Mami and Marg Grady. But they say that’s too old (even though it’s only 4 years old). CC31 lost theirs on a hard drive crash. Same for CC32 and CC33 lost theirs with a Windows 10 install. My question is, can we have a central area where we put this stuff so that future cons have references? I mean, it would be nice to see the trends of various cons of membership buying, how much they charged for their dealer’s tables/booths, and just basic expenditures. I have 31’s numbers for when he sold what. I have his room night numbers (but again they say that’s too old). Oh and forget Toronto because that’s Canada. (their words, not mine)

 

I remember there was some talk of moving this off Yahoo and in to another format. What info I have gathered is on my Google Drive in folders and am willing to share but it would be nice to have more info.  Because the more info you have, the better you can make your con and give your attendees a better experience.

So, if anyone has actual budgets for previous costume cons, please let me know.

The people that are requesting this kind of info have run Westercons, Worldcons, World Fantasy Cons so they’re different from a Costume Con but it is still the same kind of info which should make the con a better experience.

 

 

 

 

Group: runacc Message: 3055 From: casamai Date: 6/3/2016
Subject: SLCG Costume-Con Reviw: Panel Programming

 

 

 

Panel
programming took advantage of local and new panelists, and there were very few
dropouts.  Our new member, for whom this
was their first CC,  enjoyed many of the
panels, and how they were staggered a bit time-wise, rather than all of them
being directly opposite each other each hour.
They also like how it gave people an opportunity to take a break between
panels – eat, use the restroom, etc.  

 

 

 

 

 

It’s always
a good sign that there seemed enough to do.
There were 4 tracks of panel programming at the con, and this seemed to
be the right number for this-sized CC.
All panels we either participated in, or were an audience member of,  had good attendance.  It was suggested that perhaps some panels,
the most likely popular ones, should be repeated sometime during the
weekend.  That would give an opportunity
to catch one that might have conflicted with something else people had wanted
to see.   Another idea thrown out there
was to create a track just for repeats.
Maybe Friday panels on Saturday,
Saturday panels on Sunday?  This would
require polling panelists to see if they’d be willing to do the panel more than
once.   Speaking of popular panels, we
heard many people enjoyed the Tambour embroidery panel.

 

 

 

 

 

Note to
future Programming Directors:   Panels
that only tangentially relate to costuming can still be a good attendance draw,
like the “Thinking of Drinking” panel which was mainly about the history of
cocktails.     Another example: at CC16
we had a panel about cats and how they “help” their costuming owners.   So, in other words, try something with a lot
of crossover interest common to many people.
Other possible topics – favorite books for inspiration, processes/exercises
for unlocking creativity, and collectable vintage accessories.  

 

 

Encourage panelists
to have handouts or cards with websites of interest.  Another might be lists of Pinterest
boards.  At minimum, have the panelists
provide business cards with their contact info for questions.   You could even have them produced ahead of
time and Registration can put them into the swag bag.   When the attendee gets home and cleans it
out, there’s that panelist’s card, in case they lose it.   The only problem might be privacy concerns.  The other alternative might be to have a list
or resources from panels published and put in the swag bag. 

 

 

 

 

Group: runacc Message: 3056 From: Kaijugal . Date: 6/3/2016
Subject: Re: Budgets
beckieboo817@yahoo.com wrote: “Oh and forget Toronto because that’s Canada. (their words, not mine)”

That’s ok, we’re accustom to it. XD

Being awesome in The Great White North anyway. Love, Canada. 💜

 

Dawn McKechnie – President – Fibre Fantasy Artists of CanadaVisit Anime North! – Canada’s Premiere Fan-Run Anime Conventionwww.animenorth.com

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com

From: runacc@yahoogroups.com

Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 07:36:23 -0700

Subject: [runacc] Budgets

 

I have my people who are helping me to run CC36 requesting Actual Budgets for previous cons. The only one I have is for CC30 thanks to Elaine Mami and Marg Grady. But they say that’s too old (even though it’s only 4 years old). CC31 lost theirs on a hard drive crash. Same for CC32 and CC33 lost theirs with a Windows 10 install. My question is, can we have a central area where we put this stuff so that future cons have references? I mean, it would be nice to see the trends of various cons of membership buying, how much they charged for their dealer’s tables/booths, and just basic expenditures. I have 31’s numbers for when he sold what. I have his room night numbers (but again they say that’s too old). Oh and forget Toronto because that’s Canada. (their words, not mine)

 

I remember there was some talk of moving this off Yahoo and in to another format. What info I have gathered is on my Google Drive in folders and am willing to share but it would be nice to have more info. Because the more info you have, the better you can make your con and give your attendees a better experience.

 

So, if anyone has actual budgets for previous costume cons, please let me know.

 

The people that are requesting this kind of info have run Westercons, Worldcons, World Fantasy Cons so they’re different from a Costume Con but it is still the same kind of info which should make the con a better experience.

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Group: runacc Message: 3057 From: spiritof_76 Date: 6/4/2016
Subject: Re: Budgets

When I was working on CC31, the only budget information I had to work
from was CC25 and CC15. The best budgeting information I received came
from my co-chair who runs another local convention.

Michael

On 2016-06-03 07:36, beckieboo817@yahoo.com [runacc] wrote:
> I have my people who are helping me to run CC36 requesting Actual
> Budgets for previous cons. The only one I have is for CC30 thanks to
> Elaine Mami and Marg Grady. But they say that’s too old (even though
> it’s only 4 years old). CC31 lost theirs on a hard drive crash. Same
> for CC32 and CC33 lost theirs with a Windows 10 install. My question
> is, can we have a central area where we put this stuff so that future
> cons have references? I mean, it would be nice to see the trends of
> various cons of membership buying, how much they charged for their
> dealer’s tables/booths, and just basic expenditures. I have 31’s
> numbers for when he sold what. I have his room night numbers (but
> again they say that’s too old). Oh and forget Toronto because that’s
> Canada. (their words, not mine)
>
> I remember there was some talk of moving this off Yahoo and in to
> another format. What info I have gathered is on my Google Drive in
> folders and am willing to share but it would be nice to have more
> info. Because the more info you have, the better you can make your con
> and give your attendees a better experience.
>
> So, if anyone has actual budgets for previous costume cons, please let
> me know.
>
> The people that are requesting this kind of info have run Westercons,
> Worldcons, World Fantasy Cons so they’re different from a Costume Con
> but it is still the same kind of info which should make the con a
> better experience.

 

Group: runacc Message: 3058 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/4/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con Review: The Hotel

 

 

Wups.   Forgot to edit that out.

 

From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 8:14 AM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [runacc] SLCG Costume-Con Review: The Hotel

I believe we mentioned, the note about no free WiFi on the rooms is inaccurate. It was available both our roommates and we had multiple devices signed into the free room wifi. There was a high speed option which was also available.

P&S

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From: “casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc]” <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 06/01/2016 9:42 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [runacc] SLCG Costume-Con Review: The Hotel

The Madison Marriott West was familiar to a few of us – it’s the same one used for Teslacon.   It was sorta weird being there for CC – it wasn’t real cold outside.   The rooms were nice, and hotel food seemed to be a little better than we remembered.  One nice thing we noticed was there lots of electrical outlets, thanks to some of them being in the table lamps.   There was free wifi in the convention center that’s attached to the hotel, but you had to pay if you wanted it in your room (boo!).    Free parking – always appreciated.   The convention didn’t use all the function space, so having enough was not a problem.  There were a couple of complaints about Housekeeping, but overall, they were okay.  At least they were thorough about cleaning rooms.   It was odd that they didn’t have much in the way of towel racks in the bathroom.  The clothing racks were kind of low – possibly to make them handicapped accessible?  It would be great if hotels would have extra hooks on the walls of the room for more hanging space.  And there was a hot tub and pool, but the hot tub was a bit hot, and the pool was rather warm – but hey they had a hot tub.

 

Opinions about the rest of the hotel staff (mainly the front desk) were mixed.    Some of us had good experiences, but others did not.

“I would not return there as a guest. I tended to feel rushed in the dining room, although that was perhaps a result of overly eager staff trying to meet my needs. I wanted to tell them that, when I wanted something I’d ask for it,.and that I wouldn’t know whether I wanted anything more until I finished what I was eating. I found the front desk staff bureaucratic and procedurally rigid. One day, we had to call housekeeping after 4:30 to ask if our room would be serviced. When the housekeeper showed up, she claimed we had a do-not-disturb sign on our door, which we had removed by 9:45 that morning.”

“Similarly, the staff did not seem to treat the con as a big function for the hotel, and perhaps it wasn’t, compared with the University of Wisconsin and the Wisconsin Broadcasters Association. (We certainly did not fill the bar the same way the broadcasters did.)

 

By  contrast, one staffer offered to pick people up from the restaurant across the street with the shuttle, if it was raining.

Speaking of the restaurant across the street, It was very handy to have a really good restaurant that close – Sprecher’s has lots of good choices.  Every year, those of us who go up for Teslacon find  more and more choices popping up around the area..

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Group: runacc Message: 3059 From: casamai Date: 6/4/2016
Subject: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Friday Night Social and Single Pattern

 

 

 

A
continuing  complaint from year to year
is the way the catered food service is handled.   The food goes out, people use it as their
dinner, and by the time the Single Pattern Contest entrants are off the stage,
the food is mostly gone (especially by after the Photo Run – more on that
later).   This is hardly fair to them and
should be taken into account in the future.
Contractually, food could not be served in the Green Room, but SOMEthing
should have been done for them.    One suggestion was to put only half of the food
out before the show, then put the remaining lot out after the show.  There were a few leftovers after the show,
but then the hotel staff took them away shortly thereafter.

 

 

 

 

 

Stepping out
as the SP Director for a moment, I (Bruce) was satisfied with how things went (in
comparison to my running the FFS back at CC30), having the 4th
largest number of contestants in the history of the show .   There were a lot of first timers, I was
happy to see.   The Fairy pattern was very popular, making up
the vast majority of entries.   We had a
couple people take the Single Concept Challenge, but for whatever reasons, a
few others wound up being entered in the Folio and the FFS instead. 

 

 

 

 

 

 I underestimated both the number of
participants and the quality of the entries.
I regret not asking for more award ribbons.  My judges did a great job, although there are
things I could have done better.   

 

 

 

From judge
Dave Kanoy:

 

 

“Please provide the judges with
adequate materials to judge.  We didn’t have pens and only had a few index
cards on which to make notes.  I had a mechanical pencil and we scrambled
for pens.  Andrea’s kept running out of ink.  The other two judges
made notes for multiple entries on single index cards, so they were happy with
one or two each.  I really need a separate item (index card, form, piece
of paper) for each entrant.  Pulling double duty as judge and
photographer, I was having to keep track of titles, names, entry numbers and
photo numbers.  I should have handed my phone to Andrea’s sister, who was
acting as our clerk.  She could have taken photos as well as I could
.”

 

 

 

 

 

My fault.   I should have arranged for a
“poloroid” of the entrants, given how many there were.   I was glad Dave took the initiative do to it
with a camera/phone he had.   

 

 

 

 

 

Kevin Roche (another of my judges) suggested that some future CC  SPS during the Social could be handled like a
fashion show where the exhibitors walk among the tables (it was caberet-style
seating at CC34).    This seems
problematic, because it relies on the entrants to make sure everyone at their
tables sees their costume.   But if
someone wants to make a “new mistake”, well, have at it.

 

 

 

 

 

Suggestions
for future SP Directors:   Maybe a “slush
fund” of floater ribbons needs to be on hand in case the judges want to expand
past a set number of awards.  I’m hoping
that the idea of the Single Concept Challenge will be used again – there’s a
lot of potential for all sorts of concepts.

 

 

 

Comments
from others:

 

 

“There
is something to be said (at least from a con’s perspective) to limiting the
info on ribbons to the name of the con and the word, “award.” That minimizes
the con’s problem of running out of ribbons for the specific event, with the
award certificate identifying the nature of the award and the event in which ii
was won. That can work very well for a con that takes place every year at the
same time and place……. It isn’t as effective for a con that moves, as a CC or a
Worldcon does.”

 

 

 

 

 

“I’ve often wondered why the single
pattern contest doesn’t use the skill division system.” 

 

 

 

I was handling the show like the FFS – perhaps this
needs to be reviewed and considered.

 

 

 

 

 

 Again, from Dave:

 

 

 

 

 

“ I don’t feel like we did an
adequate job of judging.  Because we had so few prizes to give out, once
we decided on a Best in Show and the other awards that were prescribed for us,
that left us with a lot of entries that I felt deserved an award.  Because
we had nothing to give, we stepped out of the box a little and gave essentially
a judges choice award to three more entries (each of us chose one entry), which
we called an honorable mention or special mention.  There were still more
that might have won something if we actually had to make some hard
choices.  These people get an award and these don’t.

 

 

 

 

 

Actual judges photos printed out
would serve us a lot better than pictures on my phone.  When
discussing  awards, it’s nice to be able to lay the photos out in front of
all of us.  As it was, I could dig through my pictures to pull up
individual entries as we needed to see them, but I could only do that for
entries we were actually talking about.  I have no way to display them all
in a viewable size where a judge could glance at one, recall something and put
that costume into the conversation.

 

 

 

 

 

Should also point out some things
that went well.  There seemed to be plenty of space, at least for
us.  Can’t speak for the entrants.  I know I’ve always griped about
the tiny size of CC green rooms, but this one seemed plenty big enough for this
contest at least.” 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Group: runacc Message: 3060 From: casamai Date: 6/4/2016
Subject: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show

 

 

 

Mostly
cribbing from Karen’s comments here:  She
would have liked to have had more entries.
Six people
did not properly notify her they would not be in the show.   There is a need to stress that contestants
should let the Director know well ahead of time if they will not get their
designs made.   For example, one of the
designers who reserved one of their own exclusively backed out, but didn’t
inform Karen.    Someone else could have
done it.   And a maker who did not want
to repeat a design lost their opportunity because the two people who were going
to do the same one backed out.

 

 

 

 

 

As usual,
there seemed to be fewer people in the audience for the Folio show.  Do people sleep in on Sunday morning?   There’s not much that can be done to
encourage more people to come to the show, despite no programming opposite
it.  Overall, though, Karen was pleased
with what she had and it ran smoothly.

 

 

 

Note to FFS
directors about run orders:  Put
an experienced person at the beginning and end and then sprinkle the other experienced
people among the first-timers.

 

 

 

 

Group: runacc Message: 3061 From: casamai Date: 6/4/2016
Subject: SLCG CostumeCon 34 Review: Fantasy and Science Fiction Masquerade

 

 

 

We have mixed
feelings about starting the masq an hour earlier than usual – while it makes it
harder to get food and get down to the GR on time, it was sort of nice getting
out of the show earlier so we could go to the con suite and relax.  Since the show started at 7:00 pm, the  Green Room opened at 5:00.   We
suspect that this will probably not set a precedent.

 

 

 

 

 

In
comparison to past CCs, this was a sizeable masquerade.   There
were 43 entries: 2 Young Fans,  13
Novices, 8 Journeymen and 20 Masters.
Quality was good overall – few, if any
clunkers.   There were a few tech
audio glitches, but nothing heinous.
Steve Swope, as MC, got better and confident as the evening wore
on.   From the point of view of the
casual observer, the masq went reasonably smoothly.

 

 

 

 

 

We don’t
know all the details, but there was supposedly some problems  getting a Presentation/Front Stage judge for
the masq.   And there was quite a bit of discussion over
the system used for judging   We’ll
return to this subject later, as the outcome of the award distribution was cause
for controversy.   And what is a CC
without some controversy?

 

 

 

 

Group: runacc Message: 3062 From: casamai Date: 6/4/2016
Subject: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Historical Masquerade

 

 

 

The Historical
masq went well.   It was a good mix of
periods.   And Master heavy again.  

 

 

Workmanship
Judging ran slow – according to some people, they judges took too long with some
entrants, and some entrants took too long talking to the judges – the usual
complaints.   As a result, scheduled
times slowly started getting pushed back further and further until they were
running an hour behind.   Kudos, though,
to the door manager who allowed some people to go ahead of others (with those
parties’ permission) when they were due for a panel.    It was not evident that the MD was in and
out of the room, checking on the judges, checking on the schedule, etc.  This could have kept people better corralled.   Judging wrapped up so late (probably due to
the 17 member entry that went last) that the masquerade was delayed by 20
minutes.  It seemed like no one knew
where they went (they ran up to their room to change – not sure if they got to eat
or not).

Good job by
the first time MC, Vicky.    Our new first-timer
member appreciated the announcement of what time period the entrant was
portraying, and not just the title.   There
appeared to have beeen plenty of awards, plenty of recognition given, so no
complaints about judging in this show.

 

 

 

Award
announcements were…… odd for both the SF and Historical.   We’re not sure if it was due to the
inexperience of the MD (who made the award announcements, not the MC)  but she announced the entrants names but not
the title of their presentation, nor the Skill Division they were in.  We weren’t the only ones who noticed this
discrepancy – others in the audience asked about this seeming oversight as
well.    In the SF masq, the titles were announced but
not the costumer.    Both ways make it more difficult to associate
a face with a presentation.  It’s
important to have a historical record of who did what.    People are used to the awards being announced
by class.   This is one of the CC traditions
that should be maintained, in our opinion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Group: runacc Message: 3063 From: casamai Date: 6/4/2016
Subject: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Judgeing for the F & SF

 

 

 

The
first  observation was about the Workmanship
judges. They took longer with the first several contestants, as much as 10-15
minutes, then flipped open a hand fan to discuss and make decisions behind for
the next 10 minutes.   After that, they’d
type on the tablets they were provided for entering their scores.   As the show got closer they were clearly feeling
pressure, allowing less and less time for following contestants, until they
were asking no questions at all.  Judging
continued during the show, not finishing until sometime shortly after the
masquerade. There were at least 3 entries needing to be interviewed.

 

 

 

 

 

Now about
the overall judging system:  there were 3
Workmanship judges, but only 2 Presentation judges.   Rather than averaging the two sets
independently, all 5 judges’ scores
were averaged together.  So, the awards
were weighted by 3/5th towards Workmanship.  In analysis, we understood what the intent of the MD was – to ensure that skits and “dance-offs” do not get precedence over the quality of the costume.   (Given the two Presentations judges, this was never really a danger – they knew better to be swayed by that.)   We just don’t agree with the methods used for award decisions. 

 

 

 

 

 

There is a
drawback  to this system when used at the
International level of competition.  Scoring
by judges can often be inconsistent – they may score higher at the beginning of
a masquerade, but give lower scores as the masquerade proceeds.  Or even vice versa.   The system is not as flexible to allow for
going back and reexamining their choices and perhaps make changes.  

 

 

 

 

 

The more
commonly used method is judges may make some score, but they also review their
notes and discuss the pros and cons of the individual entries.   They also have the “poloroids” of the
costumes to refresh their memories.
All of these factors are in the mix.
From there, they decide the Best In Show winner first, followed by the
Best In Classes,  and the “floaters”.

 

 

 

 

 

There were
21 “Judges Choice/Honorable Mentions” and 6 “Major Awards” (Best of Class, Workmanship,
Performance and Best in Show).  The
awards were announced with little distinction between Workmanship and
Presentation awards.  This eschewed the
usual tradition of  announcements by
class.   All this said, it seemed
everyone who received an award deserved one.

 

 

“Can’t say I am a fan of combining
Workmanship and Stage Presentation judging.  Often what makes a great
costume from workmanship standpoint can be completely lost when seen from a
stage distance.  Averaging those things together could drag a costume that
shows great from the stage down into the middle where it gets no award.  ……
Workmanship has always been an optional, though highly encouraged, part of the
masquerade.  So, if you didn’t go up for Workmanship judging, did you just
knock yourself out of any possibility of an award because the ( judges) scores
would be divided by 5 or was it a true average?  Didn’t like seeing the Workmanship
judges conspiring behind a fan after seeing each entry.  The judges should
be recording their own honest assessments of each costume and then reconciling
those opinions later.  During conspiration, the first judge to speak can
unfairly influence the other two judges.  Not a fan of numerical scoring
of entries, which is pretty much required if you’re going to average the
scores.  Costume quality can’t be empirically measured so that you can say
this one is one inch better than that one.  The other problem with
numerical scoring, is if you are considering subcategories of costume
quality.  Is fit equivalent to flow?  Is one greater than the other
and how much?  This argument could take place for any number of aspects of
costume construction.  If a costume is a media recreation, how do you rate
that vs an original design?  Another problem with numerical scoring is the
first person usually gets screwed.  They get an average rating regardless,
so the judges can leave themselves room for something better that might come
along.

 

 

 

 

 

All of this is the MD’s call and
while at the time I respect the position and the decision, that doesn’t mean I
have to agree with it.”

 

 

 

 

 

Side note:
this was the first time tablets were employed for judge scores, rather that the
tried and true pencil and paper pads.   There
was speculation over whether the tablet system would work better had there been
an even number of judges for both Workmanship and Presentation.

 

 

 

 

Group: runacc Message: 3064 From: casamai Date: 6/4/2016
Subject: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Doll Show

 

 

 

“The Exhibits area may have been
small, but the doll show was not; it had far more entries than many previous
years, and kept growing as the con progressed.

 

 

 

 

 

The layout was surprising and a
bit unorthodox, but worked very well, allowing easy visual access to all sides
of the dolls.  I was initially a little
worried about physical vulnerability, especially being immediately adjacent to
the dealer’s area, but everyone I saw was very respectful and careful around
the dolls.  For a Costume-Con, I could
see using this layout again. 

 

 

 

 

 

As often happens, the
registration process was less formal than that used for the masquerades.  In this case, the registration form was also
the doll’s label.  It worked surprisingly
well, though I’ll admit there were a few dolls for which I wished the entry
information had been filled out more completely…..

 

 

 

 

 

The judging was surprising to me……..
I pretty much agreed with their choices, though I might have given a few more
awards had I been judging.”

 

 

 

 

Group: runacc Message: 3065 From: casamai Date: 6/4/2016
Subject: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Random notes and wrap up

 

 

 

Official Photography

 

 

Two words
about Official Photography – “too expensive”.
At the prices they were charging, there was no way realistically  to purchase a whole set of photos of all the
events.  As a solution to that lost opportunity,
we are “crowdsourcing” photos from  all
our members who took pictures, sorting through them and distributing a CD to
each of them.

 

 

  

 

 

Note to
future Concoms:    Negotiate better deals
(this may’ve been the best they could do – we weren’t in on that part of the
planning )   At least the photographer
got a complete record of all the shows and made sure all the pictures were good
before letting the contestants leave the room.
Also, it was nice not to have the Official Photographer in the Green
Room. 

 

 

 

 

 

Tech

Rehearsals
ran quick and early for both shows.   Yay
for them!  

 

 

The PA
speakers were a bit tinny and anyone standing behind them couldn’t  understand what was being said due to the
acoustics.

 

 

 

 

 

Green
Room

Not very well catered – there were
very few sodas, only popcorn and pretzels for snacks.  

 

“I
saw this as a further indication that the hotel did not conside the con as a
major event. It did not treat us as if it was.  
CCs need to specify in the contract how the hotel will
handle the food. For events of our size, if it’s not in the contract, it
doesn’t happen.”

 

 

Why were people not notified there was a
press person wandering about taking pictures?
There appeared to be a shortage of den moms.    One of the masq participants wound up
herding  others to official photo.   Was there much of a push for volunteers,
beyond the website?    An announcement of
need for den moms could have been made during the FNS.

 

 

 

 

 

Photo runs


Starting with the FNS, it was noticed that the photo runs were taking too long.  Archon puts three people on stage at a time,
starting from stage left to stage right, with each of them rotating one
position to the right after everyone in the audience has had their chance to
take their pictures.    Longtime attendee Steward Hartman has been the
unofficial wrangler for the photo runs, directing people to move and make sure
everyone has their photos.   This
position ought to be officially recognized.

 

 

 

 

 

Dealers
Room

A nice, spacious room, with a pretty
good-sized number of dealers with lots of different wares for sale.    One
of the more popular dealers was the folks selling the vintage Japanese haori,
kimono etc. by the pound.   Only
complaint?   No booksellers.

 

 

 

 

 

Exhibits:  Some interesting stuff, mostly local, at
least half of it MACS members’s works.   We like how some of the costume exhibits were
spread out throughout the edges of theDealers Room.

 

 

Dead Dog
party

It occurred Monday afternoon.   Future
ConComs: Those of us who make your Monday room nights need something to do,
otherwise, we’ll leave earlier.   Plan
for something for the evening – even if it’s a simple as “hey, let’s hang out
at the pool/bar/whatever”.     The Archives could be opened up to show people something, with advanced knowledge.

 

 

All  things considered in this review, we had very few beefs with the way the con was run.   All the cricitisms were fairly
nit-picky.     We gave the con a B+ to
A-.

 

Well done, MACS.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Group: runacc Message: 3066 From: Jamie Butler Date: 6/4/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Historical Masquerade

Just to clarify, in regards to:

It was not evident that the MD was in and out of the room, checking on the judges, checking on the schedule, etc.  This could have kept people better corralled.”
 
I was checking in on the judging throughout the entire process as Samantha (my door/judges clerk) was on a radio with me consistently. I was not running down there physically, but I was checking on the judges and schedule. When it was evident that judging was running a bit behind, we had some of the contestants come down to tech early when possible, since that was running ahead of schedule.
 
That being said, it is correct the judges ran behind, but that is my fault as I did not allow enough time adjustment for the larger over all number of contestants that entered this year.
 
Jamie Butler

CC34 Historical Masquerade Director

 

 

On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 7:38 PM, casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc]
<runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

 

The Historical
masq went well.   It was a good mix of
periods.   And Master heavy again.  

 

 

Workmanship
Judging ran slow – according to some people, they judges took too long with some
entrants, and some entrants took too long talking to the judges – the usual
complaints.   As a result, scheduled
times slowly started getting pushed back further and further until they were
running an hour behind.   Kudos, though,
to the door manager who allowed some people to go ahead of others (with those
parties’ permission) when they were due for a panel.    It was not evident that the MD was in and
out of the room, checking on the judges, checking on the schedule, etc.  This could have kept people better corralled.   Judging wrapped up so late (probably due to
the 17 member entry that went last) that the masquerade was delayed by 20
minutes.  It seemed like no one knew
where they went (they ran up to their room to change – not sure if they got to eat
or not).   

Good job by
the first time MC, Vicky.    Our new first-timer
member appreciated the announcement of what time period the entrant was
portraying, and not just the title.   There
appeared to have beeen plenty of awards, plenty of recognition given, so no
complaints about judging in this show.

 

 

 

Award
announcements were…… odd for both the SF and Historical.   We’re not sure if it was due to the
inexperience of the MD (who made the award announcements, not the MC)  but she announced the entrants names but not
the title of their presentation, nor the Skill Division they were in.  We weren’t the only ones who noticed this
discrepancy – others in the audience asked about this seeming oversight as
well.    In the SF masq, the titles were announced but
not the costumer.    Both ways make it more difficult to associate
a face with a presentation.  It’s
important to have a historical record of who did what.    People are used to the awards being announced
by class.   This is one of the CC traditions
that should be maintained, in our opinion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Group: runacc Message: 3067 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/5/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Historical Masquerade

 

 

Fair cop and these things happen. It was noted that the rehearsals were ahead of schedule – I believe that was included in the general tech notes.

BTW – your Door Dragon was excellent!

 

Nora Mai

 

From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 8:57 PM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com; runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [runacc] SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Historical Masquerade

Just to clarify, in regards to:

It was not evident that the MD was in and out of the room, checking on the judges, checking on the schedule, etc.  This could have kept people better corralled.”

I was checking in on the judging throughout the entire process as Samantha (my door/judges clerk) was on a radio with me consistently. I was not running down there physically, but I was checking on the judges and schedule. When it was evident that judging was running a bit behind, we had some of the contestants come down to tech early when possible, since that was running ahead of schedule.

That being said, it is correct the judges ran behind, but that is my fault as I did not allow enough time adjustment for the larger over all number of contestants that entered this year.

Jamie Butler

CC34 Historical Masquerade Director

 

On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 7:38 PM, casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc]

The Historical masq went well.   It was a good mix of periods.   And Master heavy again.  

Workmanship Judging ran slow – according to some people, they judges took too long with some entrants, and some entrants took too long talking to the judges – the usual complaints.   As a result, scheduled times slowly started getting pushed back further and further until they were running an hour behind.   Kudos, though, to the door manager who allowed some people to go ahead of others (with those parties’ permission) when they were due for a panel.    It was not evident that the MD was in and out of the room, checking on the judges, checking on the schedule, etc.  This could have kept people better corralled.   Judging wrapped up so late (probably due to the 17 member entry that went last) that the masquerade was delayed by 20 minutes.  It seemed like no one knew where they went (they ran up to their room to change – not sure if they got to eat or not).   

Good job by the first time MC, Vicky.    Our new first-timer member appreciated the announcement of what time period the entrant was portraying, and not just the title.   There appeared to have beeen plenty of awards, plenty of recognition given, so no complaints about judging in this show.

Award announcements were…… odd for both the SF and Historical.   We’re not sure if it was due to the inexperience of the MD (who made the award announcements, not the MC)  but she announced the entrants names but not the title of their presentation, nor the Skill Division they were in.  We weren’t the only ones who noticed this discrepancy – others in the audience asked about this seeming oversight as well.    In the SF masq, the titles were announced but not the costumer.    Both ways make it more difficult to associate a face with a presentation.  It’s important to have a historical record of who did what.    People are used to the awards being announced by class.   This is one of the CC traditions that should be maintained, in our opinion.

 

 

 

 

Group: runacc Message: 3068 From: ma0902432 Date: 6/5/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show
I know that many of you running and supervising the Folio and the Fashion
Show are about my age, maybe a bit younger, so here is my personal take
on it. Ever since the Folio began to be put out completely
electronically I have barely looked at it and have not made up any
designs. I remember back when getting very excited about doing them, and
one year, being crazy disappointed because the design I Wanted had
already been reserved.

I think my brain just does not work that way, to be able to peruse and
compare designs on a screen. I know, I know, I could print out the whole
thing…….but with the number of designs it’s not been practical with
my printer, which only holds about 30 sheets of paper at a time. IT’s
frustrating.

The First CC I attended (CC9 in Columbia) I registered at the door, had
never even HEARD of the FFF. I really think our promotion and outreach
has gotten better.

I’ve also run the Fashion Show (CC27 in Baltimore) and I commiserate with
the you on contestants dropping out at the last minute (i.e. the con has
already started). It’s hard to be in constant communication with
entrants, and keep having to revise the show.

I still think that having it Sunday mid-day is the best alternative. I
preferred when the SP contest was run at the same time as the Fashion
Show; I understand all the reasons why people like it on a separate day,
but I wonder if the numbers really have shown that it pushes more people
to enter the Fashion Show or not.

Lisa a

On 04 Jun 2016 17:35:20 -0700 “casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc]”
<runacc@yahoogroups.com> writes:

Mostly cribbing from Karen�s comments here: She would have liked to have
had more entries. Six people did not properly notify her they would not
be in the show. There is a need to stress that contestants should let
the Director know well ahead of time if they will not get their designs
made. For example, one of the designers who reserved one of their own
exclusively backed out, but didn�t inform Karen. Someone else could
have done it. And a maker who did not want to repeat a design lost
their opportunity because the two people who were going to do the same
one backed out.

As usual, there seemed to be fewer people in the audience for the Folio
show. Do people sleep in on Sunday morning? There�s not much that can
be done to encourage more people to come to the show, despite no
programming opposite it. Overall, though, Karen was pleased with what
she had and it ran smoothly.

Note to FFS directors about run orders: Put an experienced person at the
beginning and end and then sprinkle the other experienced people among
the first-timers.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 3069 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/5/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show
To answer in reverse order:
The numbers definitely support keeping the FFS away from any other competition. Just look at CC33 when the Portieres contest was run at the same time – there were 21 entries for that and only three for the FFS.
The discrepancy is usually not quite that drastic (and may often depend on the quality of the Folio itself) but the Folio Show loses in any instance where the contestants have to choose between the Folio and any other event.

As for electronic Folios versus hard-copy – it began as a matter of cost rather than trend. Printing & Mailing costs rose precipitously several years ago and the cost of the Folio became the biggest budget item for many CCs. Add in problems with delivering in a timely fashion (post production of a printed Folio is easily doubled by printing & mailing) and growing acceptance of electronic publications in the larger costuming community; you can see how electronic is the only feasible option going forward. As you say, you can always print it (many do). Given your printer limitations maybe it would be easier to load it on a flash drive and take it to your local Kinko’s (or whatever printshop is in your area).
The savings to the concom means they can provide more in other areas.

As an aside – did the horizontal format make it easier to browse the recent Folio as opposed to the past vertical formats? I was hoping it would make it more use-able as an electronic format.

Nora M

—–Original Message—–
From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 11:15 AM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [runacc] SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show

I know that many of you running and supervising the Folio and the Fashion Show are about my age, maybe a bit younger, so here is my personal take on it. Ever since the Folio began to be put out completely electronically I have barely looked at it and have not made up any designs. I remember back when getting very excited about doing them, and one year, being crazy disappointed because the design I Wanted had already been reserved.

I think my brain just does not work that way, to be able to peruse and compare designs on a screen. I know, I know, I could print out the whole thing…….but with the number of designs it’s not been practical with my printer, which only holds about 30 sheets of paper at a time. IT’s frustrating.

The First CC I attended (CC9 in Columbia) I registered at the door, had never even HEARD of the FFF. I really think our promotion and outreach has gotten better.

I’ve also run the Fashion Show (CC27 in Baltimore) and I commiserate with the you on contestants dropping out at the last minute (i.e. the con has already started). It’s hard to be in constant communication with entrants, and keep having to revise the show.

I still think that having it Sunday mid-day is the best alternative. I preferred when the SP contest was run at the same time as the Fashion Show; I understand all the reasons why people like it on a separate day, but I wonder if the numbers really have shown that it pushes more people to enter the Fashion Show or not.

Lisa a

On 04 Jun 2016 17:35:20 -0700 “casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc]”
<runacc@yahoogroups.com> writes:

Mostly cribbing from Karen s comments here: She would have liked to have
had more entries. Six people did not properly notify her they would not
be in the show. There is a need to stress that contestants should let
the Director know well ahead of time if they will not get their designs
made. For example, one of the designers who reserved one of their own
exclusively backed out, but didn t inform Karen. Someone else could
have done it. And a maker who did not want to repeat a design lost
their opportunity because the two people who were going to do the same one backed out.

As usual, there seemed to be fewer people in the audience for the Folio
show. Do people sleep in on Sunday morning? There s not much that can
be done to encourage more people to come to the show, despite no programming opposite it. Overall, though, Karen was pleased with what she had and it ran smoothly.

Note to FFS directors about run orders: Put an experienced person at the beginning and end and then sprinkle the other experienced people among the first-timers.

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Group: runacc Message: 3070 From: Byron Connell Date: 6/5/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show

 

I understand Lisa’s concern. I also understand Nora’s response abut printing. Many small organizations that used to print and mail journals, newsletters, reports, and so forth now rely on electronic publishing and distribution and print and mail only when specifically requested. It was the cost to the ICG of printing and mailing the Costumer’s Quarterly that doomed that publication. We had year after year after year of budget deficits because we were not able to control those costs. So far as I can tell, the ICG can afford to continue to publish The International Costumer only because it is produced and delivered electronically, with only a trivial number of hard copies mailed to members.

 

I don’t have Lisa’s printer problem. I have a color laser printer. So I normally print the Folio when it comes in, as I do The International Costumer and other electronic journals I receive. I recognize that I’m letting an organization transfer to my shoulders what otherwise would be its cost of publication; however, I’d rather do that than do without.
The ICG does print and mail a small number of copies of The International Costumer to ICG members who need to receive a hard copy. Can CC’s do likewise with regard to the Folio? If the number is controlled and known in advance, it could be covered in the con’s budget.
Byron
On Jun 5, 2016, at 2:57 PM, ‘Nora & Bruce Mai’ casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

To answer in reverse order:
The numbers definitely support keeping the FFS away from any other competition. Just look at CC33 when the Portieres contest was run at the same time – there were 21 entries for that and only three for the FFS.
The discrepancy is usually not quite that drastic (and may often depend on the quality of the Folio itself) but the Folio Show loses in any instance where the contestants have to choose between the Folio and any other event. 

As for electronic Folios versus hard-copy – it began as a matter of cost rather than trend. Printing & Mailing costs rose precipitously several years ago and the cost of the Folio became the biggest budget item for many CCs. Add in problems with delivering in a timely fashion (post production of a printed Folio is easily doubled by printing & mailing) and growing acceptance of electronic publications in the larger costuming community; you can see how electronic is the only feasible option going forward. As you say, you can always print it (many do). Given your printer limitations maybe it would be easier to load it on a flash drive and take it to your local Kinko’s (or whatever printshop is in your area).
The savings to the concom means they can provide more in other areas.

As an aside – did the horizontal format make it easier to browse the recent Folio as opposed to the past vertical formats? I was hoping it would make it more use-able as an electronic format.

Nora M

—–Original Message—–
From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 11:15 AM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [runacc] SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show

I know that many of you running and supervising the Folio and the Fashion Show are about my age, maybe a bit younger, so here is my personal take on it. Ever since the Folio began to be put out completely electronically I have barely looked at it and have not made up any designs. I remember back when getting very excited about doing them, and one year, being crazy disappointed because the design I Wanted had already been reserved.  

I think my brain just does not work that way, to be able to peruse and compare designs on a screen. I know, I know, I could print out the whole thing…….but with the number of designs it’s not been practical with my printer, which only holds about 30 sheets of paper at a time. IT’s frustrating.  

The First CC I attended (CC9 in Columbia) I registered at the door, had never even HEARD of the FFF. I really think our promotion and outreach has gotten better. 

I’ve also run the Fashion Show (CC27 in Baltimore) and I commiserate with the you on contestants dropping out at the last minute (i.e. the con has already started). It’s hard to be in constant communication with entrants, and keep having to revise the show.  

I still think that having it Sunday mid-day is the best alternative. I preferred when the SP contest was run at the same time as the Fashion Show; I understand all the reasons why people like it on a separate day, but I wonder if the numbers really have shown that it pushes more people to enter the Fashion Show or not.

Lisa a 

On 04 Jun 2016 17:35:20 -0700 “casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc]”
<runacc@yahoogroups.com> writes:

Mostly cribbing from Karen s comments here: She would have liked to have
had more entries. Six people did not properly notify her they would not
be in the show. There is a need to stress that contestants should let
the Director know well ahead of time if they will not get their designs
made. For example, one of the designers who reserved one of their own
exclusively backed out, but didn t inform Karen. Someone else could
have done it. And a maker who did not want to repeat a design lost
their opportunity because the two people who were going to do the same one backed out.

As usual, there seemed to be fewer people in the audience for the Folio
show. Do people sleep in on Sunday morning? There s not much that can
be done to encourage more people to come to the show, despite no programming opposite it. Overall, though, Karen was pleased with what she had and it ran smoothly.

Note to FFS directors about run orders: Put an experienced person at the beginning and end and then sprinkle the other experienced people among the first-timers.

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Group: runacc Message: 3071 From: spiritof_76 Date: 6/5/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show

>
> The ICG does print and mail a small number of copies of The
> International Costumer to ICG members who need to receive a hard copy.
> Can CC’s do likewise with regard to the Folio? If the number is
> controlled and known in advance, it could be covered in the con’s
> budget.
>
> Byron

CC31 did mail hardcopy folios to a few who requested it. Probably under
a dozen. There were also some DVDs made for at the door registrations.

Michael

 

Group: runacc Message: 3072 From: ECM Date: 6/5/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show

 

Nora,
I would be happy to pay to have one sent to me.
Elaine


To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 13:57:25 -0500
Subject: RE: [runacc] SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show

 

To answer in reverse order:
The numbers definitely support keeping the FFS away from any other competition. Just look at CC33 when the Portieres contest was run at the same time – there were 21 entries for that and only three for the FFS.
The discrepancy is usually not quite that drastic (and may often depend on the quality of the Folio itself) but the Folio Show loses in any instance where the contestants have to choose between the Folio and any other event.

As for electronic Folios versus hard-copy – it began as a matter of cost rather than trend. Printing & Mailing costs rose precipitously several years ago and the cost of the Folio became the biggest budget item for many CCs. Add in problems with delivering in a timely fashion (post production of a printed Folio is easily doubled by printing & mailing) and growing acceptance of electronic publications in the larger costuming community; you can see how electronic is the only feasible option going forward. As you say, you can always print it (many do). Given your printer limitations maybe it would be easier to load it on a flash drive and take it to your local Kinko’s (or whatever printshop is in your area).
The savings to the concom means they can provide more in other areas.

As an aside – did the horizontal format make it easier to browse the recent Folio as opposed to the past vertical formats? I was hoping it would make it more use-able as an electronic format.

Nora M

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Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 11:15 AM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [runacc] SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show

I know that many of you running and supervising the Folio and the Fashion Show are about my age, maybe a bit younger, so here is my personal take on it. Ever since the Folio began to be put out completely electronically I have barely looked at it and have not made up any designs. I remember back when getting very excited about doing them, and one year, being crazy disappointed because the design I Wanted had already been reserved.

I think my brain just does not work that way, to be able to peruse and compare designs on a screen. I know, I know, I could print out the whole thing…….but with the number of designs it’s not been practical with my printer, which only holds about 30 sheets of paper at a time. IT’s frustrating.

The First CC I attended (CC9 in Columbia) I registered at the door, had never even HEARD of the FFF. I really think our promotion and outreach has gotten better.

I’ve also run the Fashion Show (CC27 in Baltimore) and I commiserate with the you on contestants dropping out at the last minute (i.e. the con has already started). It’s hard to be in constant communication with entrants, and keep having to revise the show.

I still think that having it Sunday mid-day is the best alternative. I preferred when the SP contest was run at the same time as the Fashion Show; I understand all the reasons why people like it on a separate day, but I wonder if the numbers really have shown that it pushes more people to enter the Fashion Show or not.

Lisa a

On 04 Jun 2016 17:35:20 -0700 “casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc]”
<runacc@yahoogroups.com> writes:

Mostly cribbing from Karen s comments here: She would have liked to have
had more entries. Six people did not properly notify her they would not
be in the show. There is a need to stress that contestants should let
the Director know well ahead of time if they will not get their designs
made. For example, one of the designers who reserved one of their own
exclusively backed out, but didn t inform Karen. Someone else could
have done it. And a maker who did not want to repeat a design lost
their opportunity because the two people who were going to do the same one backed out.

As usual, there seemed to be fewer people in the audience for the Folio
show. Do people sleep in on Sunday morning? There s not much that can
be done to encourage more people to come to the show, despite no programming opposite it. Overall, though, Karen was pleased with what she had and it ran smoothly.

Note to FFS directors about run orders: Put an experienced person at the beginning and end and then sprinkle the other experienced people among the first-timers.

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Group: runacc Message: 3073 From: ECM Date: 6/5/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show

 

I have to agree with Lisa’s points.  I used to love making something from the FFF because I rarely have original design ideas.
Would it be reasonable to offer paper copies upon request?  I may well be one of the oldest in this group, and I love paper:  I can read it in the bathroom!  On breaks at work.  Anywhere!
And I also like the FFS & SP back-to-back.
My $.02
Elaine


 

 

I know that many of you running and supervising the Folio and the Fashion
Show are about my age, maybe a bit younger, so here is my personal take
on it. Ever since the Folio began to be put out completely
electronically I have barely looked at it and have not made up any
designs. I remember back when getting very excited about doing them, and
one year, being crazy disappointed because the design I Wanted had
already been reserved.

I think my brain just does not work that way, to be able to peruse and
compare designs on a screen. I know, I know, I could print out the whole
thing…….but with the number of designs it’s not been practical with
my printer, which only holds about 30 sheets of paper at a time. IT’s
frustrating.

The First CC I attended (CC9 in Columbia) I registered at the door, had
never even HEARD of the FFF. I really think our promotion and outreach
has gotten better.

I’ve also run the Fashion Show (CC27 in Baltimore) and I commiserate with
the you on contestants dropping out at the last minute (i.e. the con has
already started). It’s hard to be in constant communication with
entrants, and keep having to revise the show.

I still think that having it Sunday mid-day is the best alternative. I
preferred when the SP contest was run at the same time as the Fashion
Show; I understand all the reasons why people like it on a separate day,
but I wonder if the numbers really have shown that it pushes more people
to enter the Fashion Show or not.

Lisa a

On 04 Jun 2016 17:35:20 -0700 “casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc]”
<runacc@yahoogroups.com> writes:

Mostly cribbing from Karen�s comments here: She would have liked to have
had more entries. Six people did not properly notify her they would not
be in the show. There is a need to stress that contestants should let
the Director know well ahead of time if they will not get their designs
made. For example, one of the designers who reserved one of their own
exclusively backed out, but didn�t inform Karen. Someone else could
have done it. And a maker who did not want to repeat a design lost
their opportunity because the two people who were going to do the same
one backed out.

As usual, there seemed to be fewer people in the audience for the Folio
show. Do people sleep in on Sunday morning? There�s not much that can
be done to encourage more people to come to the show, despite no
programming opposite it. Overall, though, Karen was pleased with what
she had and it ran smoothly.

Note to FFS directors about run orders: Put an experienced person at the
beginning and end and then sprinkle the other experienced people among
the first-timers.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

 

Group: runacc Message: 3074 From: Trudy Leonard Date: 6/6/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show

 

I do find it slightly ironic that when we proposed making the FFF available as a digital download for CC 22, we were told that we couldn’t do it, and now it’s the norm. Times change.

Trudy

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—- Byron Connell byronpconnell@gmail.com [runacc] wrote —-

 

I understand Lisa’s concern. I also understand Nora’s response abut printing. Many small organizations that used to print and mail journals, newsletters, reports, and so forth now rely on electronic publishing and distribution and print and mail only when
specifically requested. It was the cost to the ICG of printing and mailing the Costumer’s Quarterly that doomed that publication. We had year after year after year of budget deficits because we were not able to control those costs. So far as I can tell, the
ICG can afford to continue to publish The International Costumer only because it is produced and delivered electronically, with only a trivial number of hard copies mailed to members.

I don’t have Lisa’s printer problem. I have a color laser printer. So I normally print the Folio when it comes in, as I do The International Costumer and other electronic journals I receive. I recognize that I’m letting an organization transfer
to my shoulders what otherwise would be its cost of publication; however, I’d rather do that than do without.
The ICG does print and mail a small number of copies of The International Costumer to ICG members who need to receive a hard copy. Can CC’s do likewise with regard to the Folio? If the number is controlled and known in advance, it could be covered
in the con’s budget.
Byron
On Jun 5, 2016, at 2:57 PM, ‘Nora & Bruce Mai’
casamai@sbcglobal.net
[runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

To answer in reverse order:
The numbers definitely support keeping the FFS away from any other competition. Just look at CC33 when the Portieres contest was run at the same time – there were 21 entries for that and only three for the FFS.
The discrepancy is usually not quite that drastic (and may often depend on the quality of the Folio itself) but the Folio Show loses in any instance where the contestants have to choose between the Folio and any other event. 

As for electronic Folios versus hard-copy – it began as a matter of cost rather than trend. Printing & Mailing costs rose precipitously several years ago and the cost of the Folio became the biggest budget item for many CCs. Add in problems with delivering
in a timely fashion (post production of a printed Folio is easily doubled by printing & mailing) and growing acceptance of electronic publications in the larger costuming community; you can see how electronic is the only feasible option going forward. As you
say, you can always print it (many do). Given your printer limitations maybe it would be easier to load it on a flash drive and take it to your local Kinko’s (or whatever printshop is in your area).
The savings to the concom means they can provide more in other areas.

As an aside – did the horizontal format make it easier to browse the recent Folio as opposed to the past vertical formats? I was hoping it would make it more use-able as an electronic format.

Nora M

—–Original Message—–
From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 11:15 AM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [runacc] SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show

I know that many of you running and supervising the Folio and the Fashion Show are about my age, maybe a bit younger, so here is my personal take on it. Ever since the Folio began to be put out completely electronically I have barely looked at it and have not
made up any designs. I remember back when getting very excited about doing them, and one year, being crazy disappointed because the design I Wanted had already been reserved.  

I think my brain just does not work that way, to be able to peruse and compare designs on a screen. I know, I know, I could print out the whole thing…….but with the number of designs it’s not been practical with my printer, which only holds about 30 sheets
of paper at a time. IT’s frustrating.  

The First CC I attended (CC9 in Columbia) I registered at the door, had never even HEARD of the FFF. I really think our promotion and outreach has gotten better. 

I’ve also run the Fashion Show (CC27 in Baltimore) and I commiserate with the you on contestants dropping out at the last minute (i.e. the con has already started). It’s hard to be in constant communication with entrants, and keep having to revise the show.  

I still think that having it Sunday mid-day is the best alternative. I preferred when the SP contest was run at the same time as the Fashion Show; I understand all the reasons why people like it on a separate day, but I wonder if the numbers really have shown
that it pushes more people to enter the Fashion Show or not.

Lisa a 

On 04 Jun 2016 17:35:20 -0700 “casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc]”
<runacc@yahoogroups.com> writes:

Mostly cribbing from Karen s comments here: She would have liked to have
had more entries. Six people did not properly notify her they would not
be in the show. There is a need to stress that contestants should let
the Director know well ahead of time if they will not get their designs
made. For example, one of the designers who reserved one of their own
exclusively backed out, but didn t inform Karen. Someone else could
have done it. And a maker who did not want to repeat a design lost
their opportunity because the two people who were going to do the same one backed out.

As usual, there seemed to be fewer people in the audience for the Folio
show. Do people sleep in on Sunday morning? There s not much that can
be done to encourage more people to come to the show, despite no programming opposite it. Overall, though, Karen was pleased with what she had and it ran smoothly.

Note to FFS directors about run orders: Put an experienced person at the beginning and end and then sprinkle the other experienced people among the first-timers.

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Group: runacc Message: 3075 From: ma0902432 Date: 6/6/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show
Honestly, I’d personally be happy to mail a check to pay for a print copy
of the Folio for Myself, because I like to keep them, along with photos
of the designs people made up, and getting the entrants to autograph my
copy!!! That’s what I used to do and I have some great memories that
way. It would also be cool to have one that for the Archives.

Lisa a

On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 18:56:29 -0400 “Byron Connell byronpconnell@gmail.com
[runacc]” <runacc@yahoogroups.com> writes:

I understand Lisa�s concern. I also understand Nora�s response abut
printing. Many small organizations that used to print and mail journals,
newsletters, reports, and so forth now rely on electronic publishing and
distribution and print and mail only when specifically requested. It was
the cost to the ICG of printing and mailing the Costumer�s Quarterly that
doomed that publication. We had year after year after year of budget
deficits because we were not able to control those costs. So far as I can
tell, the ICG can afford to continue to publish The International
Costumer only because it is produced and delivered electronically, with
only a trivial number of hard copies mailed to members.

I don�t have Lisa�s printer problem. I have a color laser printer. So I
normally print the Folio when it comes in, as I do The International
Costumer and other electronic journals I receive. I recognize that I�m
letting an organization transfer to my shoulders what otherwise would be
its cost of publication; however, I�d rather do that than do without.

The ICG does print and mail a small number of copies of The International
Costumer to ICG members who need to receive a hard copy. Can CC�s do
likewise with regard to the Folio? If the number is controlled and known
in advance, it could be covered in the con�s budget.

Byron

On Jun 5, 2016, at 2:57 PM, ‘Nora & Bruce Mai’ casamai@sbcglobal.net
[runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

To answer in reverse order:
The numbers definitely support keeping the FFS away from any other
competition. Just look at CC33 when the Portieres contest was run at the
same time – there were 21 entries for that and only three for the FFS.
The discrepancy is usually not quite that drastic (and may often depend
on the quality of the Folio itself) but the Folio Show loses in any
instance where the contestants have to choose between the Folio and any
other event.

As for electronic Folios versus hard-copy – it began as a matter of cost
rather than trend. Printing & Mailing costs rose precipitously several
years ago and the cost of the Folio became the biggest budget item for
many CCs. Add in problems with delivering in a timely fashion (post
production of a printed Folio is easily doubled by printing & mailing)
and growing acceptance of electronic publications in the larger costuming
community; you can see how electronic is the only feasible option going
forward. As you say, you can always print it (many do). Given your
printer limitations maybe it would be easier to load it on a flash drive
and take it to your local Kinko’s (or whatever printshop is in your
area).
The savings to the concom means they can provide more in other areas.

As an aside – did the horizontal format make it easier to browse the
recent Folio as opposed to the past vertical formats? I was hoping it
would make it more use-able as an electronic format.

Nora M

—–Original Message—–
From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 11:15 AM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [runacc] SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show

I know that many of you running and supervising the Folio and the Fashion
Show are about my age, maybe a bit younger, so here is my personal take
on it. Ever since the Folio began to be put out completely electronically
I have barely looked at it and have not made up any designs. I remember
back when getting very excited about doing them, and one year, being
crazy disappointed because the design I Wanted had already been reserved.

I think my brain just does not work that way, to be able to peruse and
compare designs on a screen. I know, I know, I could print out the whole
thing…….but with the number of designs it’s not been practical with
my printer, which only holds about 30 sheets of paper at a time. IT’s
frustrating.

The First CC I attended (CC9 in Columbia) I registered at the door, had
never even HEARD of the FFF. I really think our promotion and outreach
has gotten better.

I’ve also run the Fashion Show (CC27 in Baltimore) and I commiserate with
the you on contestants dropping out at the last minute (i.e. the con has
already started). It’s hard to be in constant communication with
entrants, and keep having to revise the show.

I still think that having it Sunday mid-day is the best alternative. I
preferred when the SP contest was run at the same time as the Fashion
Show; I understand all the reasons why people like it on a separate day,
but I wonder if the numbers really have shown that it pushes more people
to enter the Fashion Show or not.

Lisa a

On 04 Jun 2016 17:35:20 -0700 “casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc]”
<runacc@yahoogroups.com> writes:

Mostly cribbing from Karen s comments here: She would have liked to have
had more entries. Six people did not properly notify her they would not
be in the show. There is a need to stress that contestants should let
the Director know well ahead of time if they will not get their designs
made. For example, one of the designers who reserved one of their own
exclusively backed out, but didn t inform Karen. Someone else could
have done it. And a maker who did not want to repeat a design lost
their opportunity because the two people who were going to do the same
one backed out.

As usual, there seemed to be fewer people in the audience for the Folio
show. Do people sleep in on Sunday morning? There s not much that can
be done to encourage more people to come to the show, despite no
programming opposite it. Overall, though, Karen was pleased with what she
had and it ran smoothly.

Note to FFS directors about run orders: Put an experienced person at the
beginning and end and then sprinkle the other experienced people among
the first-timers.

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Group: runacc Message: 3076 From: ma0902432 Date: 6/6/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show

 

Thanks Nora.
The cost info makes it more understandable.  And the
suggestion of putting it on a drive and printing it at a shop makes sense
too.  I wish I still had a job where I could do that!
It still seems to me, that Costume Con is not enough days for
everything we all want to pack into it!!
Lisa a
On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 13:57:25 -0500 “‘Nora & Bruce Mai’ casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc]” <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
writes:

> To answer in reverse order:
> The numbers definitely

support keeping the FFS away from any other

> competition. Just look at

CC33 when the Portieres contest was run at

> the same time – there were

21 entries for that and only three for

> the FFS.
> The discrepancy

is usually not quite that drastic (and may often

> depend on the quality

of the Folio itself) but the Folio Show loses

> in any instance where the

contestants have to choose between the

> Folio and any other event.

>
> As for electronic Folios versus hard-copy – it began as a

matter of

> cost rather than trend. Printing & Mailing costs rose

precipitously

> several years ago and the cost of the Folio became the

biggest

> budget item for many CCs. Add in problems with delivering in a

> timely fashion (post production of a printed Folio is easily doubled

> by printing & mailing) and growing acceptance of electronic

> publications in the larger costuming community; you can see how

> electronic is the only feasible option going forward. As you say,

> you can always print it (many do). Given your printer limitations

> maybe it would be easier to load it on a flash drive and take it to

> your local Kinko’s (or whatever printshop is in your area).
> The

savings to the concom means they can provide more in other

>

areas.

>
> As an aside – did the horizontal format make it easier

to browse the

> recent Folio as opposed to the past vertical formats? I

was hoping

> it would make it more use-able as an electronic

format.

>
> Nora M
>
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Message—–

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href=”mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com”>runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com]

>

Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 11:15 AM

> To:

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> Subject:

Re: [runacc] SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion

> Show
>

> I know that many of you running and supervising the Folio and the

> Fashion Show are about my age, maybe a bit younger, so here is my

> personal take on it.  Ever since the Folio began to be put out

> completely electronically I have barely looked at it and have not

> made  up any designs. I remember back when getting very excited

> about doing them, and one year, being crazy disappointed because the

> design I Wanted had already been reserved.
>

>  I think my brain just does not work that way, to be able to

peruse

> and compare designs on a screen.  I know, I know, I could

print out

> the whole thing…….but with the number of designs it’s not

been

> practical with my printer, which only holds about 30 sheets of

paper

> at a time.  IT’s frustrating.
>
> The

First CC I attended (CC9 in Columbia) I registered at the door,

> had

never even HEARD of the FFF.  I really think our promotion and

>

outreach has gotten better.

>
> I’ve also run the Fashion Show

(CC27 in Baltimore) and I commiserate

> with the you on contestants

dropping out at the last minute (i.e.

> the con has already

started).  It’s hard to be in constant

> communication with

entrants, and keep having to revise the show.

>
> I still

think that having it Sunday mid-day is the best alternative.

> I

preferred when the SP contest was run at the same time as the

> Fashion

Show; I understand all the reasons why people like it on a

> separate

day, but I wonder if the numbers really have shown that it

> pushes more

people to enter the Fashion Show or not.

>
> Lisa a
>

> On 04 Jun 2016 17:35:20 -0700 “

href=”mailto:casamai@sbcglobal.net”>casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc]”

>

<runacc@yahoogroups.com>
writes:

>
>
>
> Mostly cribbing from Karen s comments

here:  She would have liked to

> have
> had more

entries.   Six people did not properly notify her they

> would

not

> be in the show.   There is a need to stress that

contestants should

> let
> the Director know well ahead of time if

they will not get their

> designs
> made.   For example,

one of the designers who reserved one of their

> own
> exclusively

backed out, but didn t inform Karen.    Someone else

>

could

> have done it.   And a maker who did not want to repeat a

design

> lost
> their opportunity because the two people who were

going to do the

> same one backed out.
>
> As usual, there

seemed to be fewer people in the audience for the

> Folio
>

show.  Do people sleep in on Sunday morning?   There s not much
that

> can
> be done to encourage more people to come to the show,

despite no

> programming opposite it.  Overall, though, Karen was

pleased with

> what she had and it ran smoothly.
>
>

> Note to FFS directors about run orders:  Put an experienced person

> at the beginning and end and then sprinkle the other experienced

> people among the first-timers.
>
>
>
>

>
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Group: runacc Message: 3077 From: Andrew Trembley Date: 6/6/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show
There are print-on-demand services that would make it easy for people who want to buy a copy of the folio to do so online, and have it sent directly to them.

The problem is I don’t know many of them that would make it easy to restrict purchase of print folios to convention members only.

 

 

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 4:09 AM lisa58@juno.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

Thanks Nora.
The cost info makes it more understandable.  And the
suggestion of putting it on a drive and printing it at a shop makes sense
too.  I wish I still had a job where I could do that!
It still seems to me, that Costume Con is not enough days for
everything we all want to pack into it!!
Lisa a
On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 13:57:25 -0500 “‘Nora & Bruce Mai’ casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc]” <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
writes:
> To answer in reverse order:
> The numbers definitely
support keeping the FFS away from any other
> competition. Just look at
CC33 when the Portieres contest was run at
> the same time – there were
21 entries for that and only three for
> the FFS.
> The discrepancy
is usually not quite that drastic (and may often
> depend on the quality
of the Folio itself) but the Folio Show loses
> in any instance where the
contestants have to choose between the
> Folio and any other event.

>
> As for electronic Folios versus hard-copy – it began as a
matter of
> cost rather than trend. Printing & Mailing costs rose
precipitously
> several years ago and the cost of the Folio became the
biggest
> budget item for many CCs. Add in problems with delivering in a

> timely fashion (post production of a printed Folio is easily doubled

> by printing & mailing) and growing acceptance of electronic

> publications in the larger costuming community; you can see how

> electronic is the only feasible option going forward. As you say,

> you can always print it (many do). Given your printer limitations

> maybe it would be easier to load it on a flash drive and take it to

> your local Kinko’s (or whatever printshop is in your area).
> The
savings to the concom means they can provide more in other
>
areas.
>
> As an aside – did the horizontal format make it easier
to browse the
> recent Folio as opposed to the past vertical formats? I
was hoping
> it would make it more use-able as an electronic
format.
>
> Nora M
>
> —–Original
Message—–
> From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com]
>
Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 11:15 AM
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
Re: [runacc] SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion
> Show
>

> I know that many of you running and supervising the Folio and the

> Fashion Show are about my age, maybe a bit younger, so here is my

> personal take on it.  Ever since the Folio began to be put out

> completely electronically I have barely looked at it and have not

> made  up any designs. I remember back when getting very excited

> about doing them, and one year, being crazy disappointed because the

> design I Wanted had already been reserved.
>

>  I think my brain just does not work that way, to be able to
peruse
> and compare designs on a screen.  I know, I know, I could
print out
> the whole thing…….but with the number of designs it’s not
been
> practical with my printer, which only holds about 30 sheets of
paper
> at a time.  IT’s frustrating.
>
> The
First CC I attended (CC9 in Columbia) I registered at the door,
> had
never even HEARD of the FFF.  I really think our promotion and
>
outreach has gotten better.
>
> I’ve also run the Fashion Show
(CC27 in Baltimore) and I commiserate
> with the you on contestants
dropping out at the last minute (i.e.
> the con has already
started).  It’s hard to be in constant
> communication with
entrants, and keep having to revise the show.
>
> I still
think that having it Sunday mid-day is the best alternative.
> I
preferred when the SP contest was run at the same time as the
> Fashion
Show; I understand all the reasons why people like it on a
> separate
day, but I wonder if the numbers really have shown that it
> pushes more
people to enter the Fashion Show or not.
>
> Lisa a
>

> On 04 Jun 2016 17:35:20 -0700 “casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc]”
>
<runacc@yahoogroups.com>
writes:
>
>
>
> Mostly cribbing from Karen s comments
here:  She would have liked to
> have
> had more
entries.   Six people did not properly notify her they
> would
not
> be in the show.   There is a need to stress that
contestants should
> let
> the Director know well ahead of time if
they will not get their
> designs
> made.   For example,
one of the designers who reserved one of their
> own
> exclusively
backed out, but didn t inform Karen.    Someone else
>
could
> have done it.   And a maker who did not want to repeat a
design
> lost
> their opportunity because the two people who were
going to do the
> same one backed out.
>
> As usual, there
seemed to be fewer people in the audience for the
> Folio
>
show.  Do people sleep in on Sunday morning?   There s not much
that
> can
> be done to encourage more people to come to the show,
despite no
> programming opposite it.  Overall, though, Karen was
pleased with
> what she had and it ran smoothly.
>
>

> Note to FFS directors about run orders:  Put an experienced person

> at the beginning and end and then sprinkle the other experienced

> people among the first-timers.
>
>
>
>

>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

>
>
> ————————————
> Posted
by: <lisa58@juno.com>
>
————————————
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
>
————————————
>
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>

>
>
>
>

>
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<casamai@sbcglobal.net>
>
————————————
>
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>
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Group: runacc Message: 3078 From: Aurora Celeste Date: 6/7/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show

We had considered a print-membership price for CC37 and discarded the idea.  Perhaps we will revisit.  Are there other things people would like in print other than the folio?

~Aurora

 

On Monday, June 6, 2016, Andrew Trembley attrembl@bovil.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

There are print-on-demand services that would make it easy for people who want to buy a copy of the folio to do so online, and have it sent directly to them.

The problem is I don’t know many of them that would make it easy to restrict purchase of print folios to convention members only.

 

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 4:09 AM lisa58@juno.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

Thanks Nora.
The cost info makes it more understandable.  And the
suggestion of putting it on a drive and printing it at a shop makes sense
too.  I wish I still had a job where I could do that!
It still seems to me, that Costume Con is not enough days for
everything we all want to pack into it!!
Lisa a
On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 13:57:25 -0500 “‘Nora & Bruce Mai’ casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc]” <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
writes:
> To answer in reverse order:
> The numbers definitely
support keeping the FFS away from any other
> competition. Just look at
CC33 when the Portieres contest was run at
> the same time – there were
21 entries for that and only three for
> the FFS.
> The discrepancy
is usually not quite that drastic (and may often
> depend on the quality
of the Folio itself) but the Folio Show loses
> in any instance where the
contestants have to choose between the
> Folio and any other event.

>
> As for electronic Folios versus hard-copy – it began as a
matter of
> cost rather than trend. Printing & Mailing costs rose
precipitously
> several years ago and the cost of the Folio became the
biggest
> budget item for many CCs. Add in problems with delivering in a

> timely fashion (post production of a printed Folio is easily doubled

> by printing & mailing) and growing acceptance of electronic

> publications in the larger costuming community; you can see how

> electronic is the only feasible option going forward. As you say,

> you can always print it (many do). Given your printer limitations

> maybe it would be easier to load it on a flash drive and take it to

> your local Kinko’s (or whatever printshop is in your area).
> The
savings to the concom means they can provide more in other
>
areas.
>
> As an aside – did the horizontal format make it easier
to browse the
> recent Folio as opposed to the past vertical formats? I
was hoping
> it would make it more use-able as an electronic
format.
>
> Nora M
>
> —–Original
Message—–
> From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com]
>
Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 11:15 AM
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
Re: [runacc] SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion
> Show
>

> I know that many of you running and supervising the Folio and the

> Fashion Show are about my age, maybe a bit younger, so here is my

> personal take on it.  Ever since the Folio began to be put out

> completely electronically I have barely looked at it and have not

> made  up any designs. I remember back when getting very excited

> about doing them, and one year, being crazy disappointed because the

> design I Wanted had already been reserved.
>

>  I think my brain just does not work that way, to be able to
peruse
> and compare designs on a screen.  I know, I know, I could
print out
> the whole thing…….but with the number of designs it’s not
been
> practical with my printer, which only holds about 30 sheets of
paper
> at a time.  IT’s frustrating.
>
> The
First CC I attended (CC9 in Columbia) I registered at the door,
> had
never even HEARD of the FFF.  I really think our promotion and
>
outreach has gotten better.
>
> I’ve also run the Fashion Show
(CC27 in Baltimore) and I commiserate
> with the you on contestants
dropping out at the last minute (i.e.
> the con has already
started).  It’s hard to be in constant
> communication with
entrants, and keep having to revise the show.
>
> I still
think that having it Sunday mid-day is the best alternative.
> I
preferred when the SP contest was run at the same time as the
> Fashion
Show; I understand all the reasons why people like it on a
> separate
day, but I wonder if the numbers really have shown that it
> pushes more
people to enter the Fashion Show or not.
>
> Lisa a
>

> On 04 Jun 2016 17:35:20 -0700 “casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc]”
>
<runacc@yahoogroups.com>
writes:
>
>
>
> Mostly cribbing from Karen s comments
here:  She would have liked to
> have
> had more
entries.   Six people did not properly notify her they
> would
not
> be in the show.   There is a need to stress that
contestants should
> let
> the Director know well ahead of time if
they will not get their
> designs
> made.   For example,
one of the designers who reserved one of their
> own
> exclusively
backed out, but didn t inform Karen.    Someone else
>
could
> have done it.   And a maker who did not want to repeat a
design
> lost
> their opportunity because the two people who were
going to do the
> same one backed out.
>
> As usual, there
seemed to be fewer people in the audience for the
> Folio
>
show.  Do people sleep in on Sunday morning?   There s not much
that
> can
> be done to encourage more people to come to the show,
despite no
> programming opposite it.  Overall, though, Karen was
pleased with
> what she had and it ran smoothly.
>
>

> Note to FFS directors about run orders:  Put an experienced person

> at the beginning and end and then sprinkle the other experienced

> people among the first-timers.
>
>
>
>

>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

>
>
> ————————————
> Posted
by: <lisa58@juno.com>
>
————————————
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
>
————————————
>
> Yahoo Groups Links
>

>
>
>
>

>
————————————
> Posted by: “Nora & Bruce Mai”
<casamai@sbcglobal.net>
>
————————————
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
>
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>
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Group: runacc Message: 3079 From: Sharon Sbarsky Date: 6/7/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show
I’ve also been reading these threads with interest, and will probably go back into the archives for earlier CCs. 😉 I assume that all are available to share with our committee?

I’ve been thinking about the print/online FFF. As Aurora said, we were looking at a special print-membership price, but mostly decided against it because of complexity and impact on the budget. (balancing the income and expense of print publications.)

But I’ve been wondering about electronic FFF. is the problem people have with view the the FF online that it really isn’t optimized for a laptop, tablet, or phone? If each design was setup so that it is easily viewable (make larger, etc.) on someone’s phone or tablet would that be better? Perhaps also letting the member print which ever designs they want, and not the cost of the entire FFF.

Phone and tablet apps have been improving, and by 2019 we should be able to get something that is better than what we’ve had until now.

Sharon

 

 

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Aurora Celeste auroraceleste@gmail.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

We had considered a print-membership price for CC37 and discarded the idea.  Perhaps we will revisit.  Are there other things people would like in print other than the folio?

~Aurora

On Monday, June 6, 2016, Andrew Trembley attrembl@bovil.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

There are print-on-demand services that would make it easy for people who want to buy a copy of the folio to do so online, and have it sent directly to them.

The problem is I don’t know many of them that would make it easy to restrict purchase of print folios to convention members only.

 

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 4:09 AM lisa58@juno.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

Thanks Nora.
The cost info makes it more understandable.  And the
suggestion of putting it on a drive and printing it at a shop makes sense
too.  I wish I still had a job where I could do that!
It still seems to me, that Costume Con is not enough days for
everything we all want to pack into it!!
Lisa a
On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 13:57:25 -0500 “‘Nora & Bruce Mai’ casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc]” <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
writes:
> To answer in reverse order:
> The numbers definitely
support keeping the FFS away from any other
> competition. Just look at
CC33 when the Portieres contest was run at
> the same time – there were
21 entries for that and only three for
> the FFS.
> The discrepancy
is usually not quite that drastic (and may often
> depend on the quality
of the Folio itself) but the Folio Show loses
> in any instance where the
contestants have to choose between the
> Folio and any other event.

>
> As for electronic Folios versus hard-copy – it began as a
matter of
> cost rather than trend. Printing & Mailing costs rose
precipitously
> several years ago and the cost of the Folio became the
biggest
> budget item for many CCs. Add in problems with delivering in a

> timely fashion (post production of a printed Folio is easily doubled

> by printing & mailing) and growing acceptance of electronic

> publications in the larger costuming community; you can see how

> electronic is the only feasible option going forward. As you say,

> you can always print it (many do). Given your printer limitations

> maybe it would be easier to load it on a flash drive and take it to

> your local Kinko’s (or whatever printshop is in your area).
> The
savings to the concom means they can provide more in other
>
areas.
>
> As an aside – did the horizontal format make it easier
to browse the
> recent Folio as opposed to the past vertical formats? I
was hoping
> it would make it more use-able as an electronic
format.
>
> Nora M
>
> —–Original
Message—–
> From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com]
>
Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 11:15 AM
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
Re: [runacc] SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion
> Show
>

> I know that many of you running and supervising the Folio and the

> Fashion Show are about my age, maybe a bit younger, so here is my

> personal take on it.  Ever since the Folio began to be put out

> completely electronically I have barely looked at it and have not

> made  up any designs. I remember back when getting very excited

> about doing them, and one year, being crazy disappointed because the

> design I Wanted had already been reserved.
>

>  I think my brain just does not work that way, to be able to
peruse
> and compare designs on a screen.  I know, I know, I could
print out
> the whole thing…….but with the number of designs it’s not
been
> practical with my printer, which only holds about 30 sheets of
paper
> at a time.  IT’s frustrating.
>
> The
First CC I attended (CC9 in Columbia) I registered at the door,
> had
never even HEARD of the FFF.  I really think our promotion and
>
outreach has gotten better.
>
> I’ve also run the Fashion Show
(CC27 in Baltimore) and I commiserate
> with the you on contestants
dropping out at the last minute (i.e.
> the con has already
started).  It’s hard to be in constant
> communication with
entrants, and keep having to revise the show.
>
> I still
think that having it Sunday mid-day is the best alternative.
> I
preferred when the SP contest was run at the same time as the
> Fashion
Show; I understand all the reasons why people like it on a
> separate
day, but I wonder if the numbers really have shown that it
> pushes more
people to enter the Fashion Show or not.
>
> Lisa a
>

> On 04 Jun 2016 17:35:20 -0700 “casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc]”
>
<runacc@yahoogroups.com>
writes:
>
>
>
> Mostly cribbing from Karen s comments
here:  She would have liked to
> have
> had more
entries.   Six people did not properly notify her they
> would
not
> be in the show.   There is a need to stress that
contestants should
> let
> the Director know well ahead of time if
they will not get their
> designs
> made.   For example,
one of the designers who reserved one of their
> own
> exclusively
backed out, but didn t inform Karen.    Someone else
>
could
> have done it.   And a maker who did not want to repeat a
design
> lost
> their opportunity because the two people who were
going to do the
> same one backed out.
>
> As usual, there
seemed to be fewer people in the audience for the
> Folio
>
show.  Do people sleep in on Sunday morning?   There s not much
that
> can
> be done to encourage more people to come to the show,
despite no
> programming opposite it.  Overall, though, Karen was
pleased with
> what she had and it ran smoothly.
>
>

> Note to FFS directors about run orders:  Put an experienced person

> at the beginning and end and then sprinkle the other experienced

> people among the first-timers.
>
>
>
>

>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

>
>
> ————————————
> Posted
by: <lisa58@juno.com>
>
————————————
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
>
————————————
>
> Yahoo Groups Links
>

>
>
>
>

>
————————————
> Posted by: “Nora & Bruce Mai”
<casamai@sbcglobal.net>
>
————————————
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
>
————————————
>
> Yahoo Groups Links
>

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Group: runacc Message: 3080 From: ma0902432 Date: 6/7/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show

Hi Sharon,

Just to clarify, for me it’s not a matter of how useable to electronic
version is, I just prefer it in print and from now on am going to make
more of an effort to get it printed. It’s just a generational thing I
guess, I just prefer paper for a lot of things.

Lisa a

On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 13:36:02 -0400 “Sharon Sbarsky sbarsky@gmail.com
[runacc]” <runacc@yahoogroups.com> writes:

I’ve also been reading these threads with interest, and will probably go
back into the archives for earlier CCs. 😉 I assume that all are
available to share with our committee?

I’ve been thinking about the print/online FFF. As Aurora said, we were
looking at a special print-membership price, but mostly decided against
it because of complexity and impact on the budget. (balancing the income
and expense of print publications.)

But I’ve been wondering about electronic FFF. is the problem people have
with view the the FF online that it really isn’t optimized for a laptop,
tablet, or phone? If each design was setup so that it is easily viewable
(make larger, etc.) on someone’s phone or tablet would that be better?
Perhaps also letting the member print which ever designs they want, and
not the cost of the entire FFF.

Phone and tablet apps have been improving, and by 2019 we should be able
to get something that is better than what we’ve had until now.

Sharon

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Aurora Celeste auroraceleste@gmail.com
[runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

We had considered a print-membership price for CC37 and discarded the
idea. Perhaps we will revisit. Are there other things people would like
in print other than the folio?

~Aurora

On Monday, June 6, 2016, Andrew Trembley attrembl@bovil.com [runacc]
<runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

There are print-on-demand services that would make it easy for people who
want to buy a copy of the folio to do so online, and have it sent
directly to them.

The problem is I don’t know many of them that would make it easy to
restrict purchase of print folios to convention members only.

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 4:09 AM lisa58@juno.com [runacc]
<runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

?

Thanks Nora.

The cost info makes it more understandable. And the suggestion of
putting it on a drive and printing it at a shop makes sense too. I wish
I still had a job where I could do that!

It still seems to me, that Costume Con is not enough days for everything
we all want to pack into it!!

Lisa a

On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 13:57:25 -0500 “‘Nora & Bruce Mai’
casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc]” <runacc@yahoogroups.com> writes:

> To answer in reverse order:
> The numbers definitely support keeping the FFS away from any other
> competition. Just look at CC33 when the Portieres contest was run at
> the same time – there were 21 entries for that and only three for
> the FFS.
> The discrepancy is usually not quite that drastic (and may often
> depend on the quality of the Folio itself) but the Folio Show loses
> in any instance where the contestants have to choose between the
> Folio and any other event.
>
> As for electronic Folios versus hard-copy – it began as a matter of
> cost rather than trend. Printing & Mailing costs rose precipitously
> several years ago and the cost of the Folio became the biggest
> budget item for many CCs. Add in problems with delivering in a
> timely fashion (post production of a printed Folio is easily doubled
> by printing & mailing) and growing acceptance of electronic
> publications in the larger costuming community; you can see how
> electronic is the only feasible option going forward. As you say,
> you can always print it (many do). Given your printer limitations
> maybe it would be easier to load it on a flash drive and take it to
> your local Kinko’s (or whatever printshop is in your area).
> The savings to the concom means they can provide more in other
> areas.
>
> As an aside – did the horizontal format make it easier to browse the
> recent Folio as opposed to the past vertical formats? I was hoping
> it would make it more use-able as an electronic format.
>
> Nora M
>
> —–Original Message—–
> From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com]
> Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 11:15 AM
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [runacc] SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion
> Show
>
> I know that many of you running and supervising the Folio and the
> Fashion Show are about my age, maybe a bit younger, so here is my
> personal take on it. Ever since the Folio began to be put out
> completely electronically I have barely looked at it and have not
> made up any designs. I remember back when getting very excited
> about doing them, and one year, being crazy disappointed because the
> design I Wanted had already been reserved.
>
> I think my brain just does not work that way, to be able to peruse
> and compare designs on a screen. I know, I know, I could print out
> the whole thing…….but with the number of designs it’s not been
> practical with my printer, which only holds about 30 sheets of paper
> at a time. IT’s frustrating.
>
> The First CC I attended (CC9 in Columbia) I registered at the door,
> had never even HEARD of the FFF. I really think our promotion and
> outreach has gotten better.
>
> I’ve also run the Fashion Show (CC27 in Baltimore) and I commiserate
> with the you on contestants dropping out at the last minute (i.e.
> the con has already started). It’s hard to be in constant
> communication with entrants, and keep having to revise the show.
>
> I still think that having it Sunday mid-day is the best alternative.
> I preferred when the SP contest was run at the same time as the
> Fashion Show; I understand all the reasons why people like it on a
> separate day, but I wonder if the numbers really have shown that it
> pushes more people to enter the Fashion Show or not.
>
> Lisa a
>
> On 04 Jun 2016 17:35:20 -0700 “casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc]”
> <runacc@yahoogroups.com> writes:
>
>
>
> Mostly cribbing from Karen s comments here: She would have liked to
> have
> had more entries. Six people did not properly notify her they
> would not
> be in the show. There is a need to stress that contestants should
> let
> the Director know well ahead of time if they will not get their
> designs
> made. For example, one of the designers who reserved one of their
> own
> exclusively backed out, but didn t inform Karen. Someone else
> could
> have done it. And a maker who did not want to repeat a design
> lost
> their opportunity because the two people who were going to do the
> same one backed out.
>
> As usual, there seemed to be fewer people in the audience for the
> Folio
> show. Do people sleep in on Sunday morning? There s not much that
> can
> be done to encourage more people to come to the show, despite no
> programming opposite it. Overall, though, Karen was pleased with
> what she had and it ran smoothly.
>
>
> Note to FFS directors about run orders: Put an experienced person
> at the beginning and end and then sprinkle the other experienced
> people among the first-timers.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ————————————
> Posted by: <lisa58@juno.com>
> ————————————
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
> ————————————
>
> Yahoo Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

> ————————————
> Posted by: “Nora & Bruce Mai” <casamai@sbcglobal.net>

> ————————————
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
> ————————————
>
> Yahoo Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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Group: runacc Message: 3081 From: Byron Connell Date: 6/7/2016
Subject: Re: SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Future Fashion Show

 

I also prefer paper. I recognize that’s beyond the budget of most CCs. However, I think a CC ought to be able to cost out the production and delivery of individual paper copies of the FFF — including the cost of paper, ink, staples, envelopes, labor, and postage — and charge that amount for copies to members who neither want to use an electronic version nor to print their own copies. If this service were limited to members requesting it at the time they joined the con (or requested it before s specified deadline), the con could reasonably estimate how much revenue and expenditure would be involved.

 

Byron

 

 

On Jun 7, 2016, at 5:10 PM, lisa58@juno.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi Sharon,

Just to clarify, for me it’s not a matter of how useable to electronic
version is, I just prefer it in print and from now on am going to make
more of an effort to get it printed. It’s just a generational thing I
guess, I just prefer paper for a lot of things.

Lisa a

On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 13:36:02 -0400 “Sharon Sbarsky sbarsky@gmail.com
[runacc]” <runacc@yahoogroups.com> writes:

I’ve also been reading these threads with interest, and will probably go
back into the archives for earlier CCs. 😉 I assume that all are
available to share with our committee?

I’ve been thinking about the print/online FFF. As Aurora said, we were
looking at a special print-membership price, but mostly decided against
it because of complexity and impact on the budget. (balancing the income
and expense of print publications.)

But I’ve been wondering about electronic FFF. is the problem people have
with view the the FF online that it really isn’t optimized for a laptop,
tablet, or phone? If each design was setup so that it is easily viewable
(make larger, etc.) on someone’s phone or tablet would that be better?
Perhaps also letting the member print which ever designs they want, and
not the cost of the entire FFF.

Phone and tablet apps have been improving, and by 2019 we should be able
to get something that is better than what we’ve had until now.

Sharon

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Aurora Celeste auroraceleste@gmail.com
[runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

We had considered a print-membership price for CC37 and discarded the
idea. Perhaps we will revisit. Are there other things people would like
in print other than the folio?

~Aurora

 

 

 

Group: runacc Message: 3082 From: von_drago Date: 6/7/2016
Subject: CC34 Future Fashion Folio

I’m curious – what did people think of the horizontal format?

I hoped it would display better on a computer screen, any feedback?

 

Nora

 

Group: runacc Message: 3083 From: von_drago Date: 6/10/2016
Subject: Re: CC34 Future Fashion Folio

So no opinion?

 

Nora

 

Group: runacc Message: 3084 From: von_drago Date: 6/10/2016
Subject: Costume-Con “Traditions”

 

 

 

In light of recent discussions it seems like we might need
to codify some of the generally expected customs and activities that are not
specifically required in the CC ConStitution but have established themselves at
Costume-Con year after year. Not that they have to be included every year but
habitual attendees can be disappointed by things that Con-coms never knew
about. Plus it would be good to have the history of all these CC traditions.

 

 

 

 

 

Examples:

 

 

Exhibits

 

 

Dead Dog Party

 

 

Announcement Process

 

 

Guild Chapter Awards

 

 

Mousekerade

 

 

Half-time Videos

 

 

Photo Run

 

 

Doll Contest

 

 

Hospitality

 

 

 

 

 

So to aid both future Con-coms and attendees, and to
preserve this history for the Archives, we’d like to compile a list of the
non-official Costume-Con Traditions. Include everything you know – origin (year
& persons), impact, personal stories, and its demise (if applicable).

 

 

 

 

 

So what do you expect at a Costume-Con that is not outlined
in the ConStitution? Discuss.

 

 

 

 

Group: runacc Message: 3085 From: Betsy Marks Delaney Date: 6/10/2016
Subject: Re: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”

Some of this is outlined in the work I did to translate the programs into the main pages for each CC. There are lists embedded where “first instance of X” are noted.

That includes things like Single Pattern, Single Item (bra, codpiece), doll contest, video masquerade, etc.
I haven’t looked closely at the work that was done after Dan forced me to step down, so I can’t say with certainty that the work was continued after I walked away.
That’s also why I put all the rules on the pages with the contest albums. That way, there’d be an easy to find way to look at the evolution of the rules from competition to competition.
I’ve been toying with the idea of moving the entire site to a blog structure, since it’s still database driven but has a much prettier form for laying out the data and can be keyworded (rules, participants, etc) a lot more elegantly than was available way back when Kevin and Andy helped set Gallery up for us.
It’s a TON of work, though, and until I finished my degree, wasn’t remotely possible.

Now that I’m done, I’m chewing on possibilities to propose to Karen for changing the structure.

I’ve also missed all the CCs since 27, and I wasn’t really there for that. What’s come since I stepped down (around 25)?
-b

 

 

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 8:40 PM, von_drago@yahoo.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

In light of recent discussions it seems like we might need
to codify some of the generally expected customs and activities that are not
specifically required in the CC ConStitution but have established themselves at
Costume-Con year after year. Not that they have to be included every year but
habitual attendees can be disappointed by things that Con-coms never knew
about. Plus it would be good to have the history of all these CC traditions.

 

 

 

 

 

Examples:

 

 

Exhibits

 

 

Dead Dog Party

 

 

Announcement Process

 

 

Guild Chapter Awards

 

 

Mousekerade

 

 

Half-time Videos

 

 

Photo Run

 

 

Doll Contest

 

 

Hospitality

 

 

 

 

 

So to aid both future Con-coms and attendees, and to
preserve this history for the Archives, we’d like to compile a list of the
non-official Costume-Con Traditions. Include everything you know – origin (year
& persons), impact, personal stories, and its demise (if applicable).

 

 

 

 

 

So what do you expect at a Costume-Con that is not outlined
in the ConStitution? Discuss.

 

 

 

 

 


Betsy Marks Delaney

http://www.hawkeswood.com/

 

 

Group: runacc Message: 3086 From: Vicky Young Date: 6/10/2016
Subject: Re: CC34 Future Fashion Folio
Hi Nora,

Sorry, I’ve had limited Internet access for the past few days –

I personally liked the horizontal format.i find it easier to read, because vertical pages sometimes require scrolling, which makes it harder to imagine the whole thing.

Vicky



From:

von_drago@yahoo.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com>;

To:

<runacc@yahoogroups.com>;

Subject:

[runacc] Re: CC34 Future Fashion Folio

Sent:

Sat, Jun 11, 2016 12:33:33 AM

 

So no opinion?

 

Nora

 

Group: runacc Message: 3087 From: Byron P Connell Date: 6/11/2016
Subject: Re: CC34 Future Fashion Folio

 

No, no opinion. So long as I can print it easily, I don’t care which way the pages are oriented.

 

Byron

 

So no opinion?

Nora

 

 

 

Group: runacc Message: 3088 From: Sharon Sbarsky Date: 6/11/2016
Subject: Re: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”
yes, this! I would love to know what people consider “traditional” enough that there will be disappointments or complaints if they didn’t happen.
What is the Mousekerade? That either hasn’t been at any of the CCs I’ve attended, or was low enough on my radar/interest that I didn’t pay attention.

The others I’m pretty aware of, in at least one iteration.

I would also like to hear opinions on the “official video” availability and sales. Eric stated that it was a “rule” that the video *must* be available for sale *at* the CC for people to buy and go home with. But I also know that some video directors (like Syd) like to spend more time on creating the official video, including credits of crew and entrants, and make it available some time later. I couldn’t find any rule on this in the Constitution, but what is expected?

Sharon

 

 

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 8:40 PM, von_drago@yahoo.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

In light of recent discussions it seems like we might need
to codify some of the generally expected customs and activities that are not
specifically required in the CC ConStitution but have established themselves at
Costume-Con year after year. Not that they have to be included every year but
habitual attendees can be disappointed by things that Con-coms never knew
about. Plus it would be good to have the history of all these CC traditions.

 

 

 

 

 

Examples:

 

 

Exhibits

 

 

Dead Dog Party

 

 

Announcement Process

 

 

Guild Chapter Awards

 

 

Mousekerade

 

 

Half-time Videos

 

 

Photo Run

 

 

Doll Contest

 

 

Hospitality

 

 

 

 

 

So to aid both future Con-coms and attendees, and to
preserve this history for the Archives, we’d like to compile a list of the
non-official Costume-Con Traditions. Include everything you know – origin (year
& persons), impact, personal stories, and its demise (if applicable).

 

 

 

 

 

So what do you expect at a Costume-Con that is not outlined
in the ConStitution? Discuss.

 

 

 

 

 

Group: runacc Message: 3089 From: Aurora Celeste Date: 6/11/2016
Subject: Re: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”

Mousekerade is silly fun at the Dead Dog.  People bring a stuffed animal and costume it with stuff they find at the convention, then have a silly-as-possible thing.  Bonus points if the judges have been drinking.  At CC27 we had lots of drinks and deliberated in a closet.  Literally.  Lots of fun.

On Saturday, June 11, 2016, Sharon Sbarsky sbarsky@gmail.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

yes, this! I would love to know what people consider “traditional” enough that there will be disappointments or complaints if they didn’t happen.
What is the Mousekerade? That either hasn’t been at any of the CCs I’ve attended, or was low enough on my radar/interest that I didn’t pay attention.

The others I’m pretty aware of, in at least one iteration.

I would also like to hear opinions on the “official video” availability and sales. Eric stated that it was a “rule” that the video *must* be available for sale *at* the CC for people to buy and go home with. But I also know that some video directors (like Syd) like to spend more time on creating the official video, including credits of crew and entrants, and make it available some time later. I couldn’t find any rule on this in the Constitution, but what is expected?

Sharon

 

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 8:40 PM, von_drago@yahoo.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

In light of recent discussions it seems like we might need
to codify some of the generally expected customs and activities that are not
specifically required in the CC ConStitution but have established themselves at
Costume-Con year after year. Not that they have to be included every year but
habitual attendees can be disappointed by things that Con-coms never knew
about. Plus it would be good to have the history of all these CC traditions.

 

 

 

 

 

Examples:

 

 

Exhibits

 

 

Dead Dog Party

 

 

Announcement Process

 

 

Guild Chapter Awards

 

 

Mousekerade

 

 

Half-time Videos

 

 

Photo Run

 

 

Doll Contest

 

 

Hospitality

 

 

 

 

 

So to aid both future Con-coms and attendees, and to
preserve this history for the Archives, we’d like to compile a list of the
non-official Costume-Con Traditions. Include everything you know – origin (year
& persons), impact, personal stories, and its demise (if applicable).

 

 

 

 

 

So what do you expect at a Costume-Con that is not outlined
in the ConStitution? Discuss.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Group: runacc Message: 3090 From: von_drago Date: 6/11/2016
Subject: Re: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”

Mousekerade Origin – CC16; one of the vendors had a rack of Folkmanis hand puppets including white mice. Some folks used stuffies they had brought with them. Drinking may have been involved 🙂

I know it was done at 25 & 27 – what other years had a Mousekerade?

 

Nora

 

Group: runacc Message: 3091 From: von_drago Date: 6/11/2016
Subject: Re: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”

We definitely want things not on that list – those are just some examples and there are plenty more.

 

Nora

 

Group: runacc Message: 3092 From: Byron P Connell Date: 6/11/2016
Subject: Re: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”

 

The absence of mousekerade would not cause me grief. However, if others want it, the dead dog probably is a good place for it.

 

Byron

 

Mousekerade is silly fun at the Dead Dog.  People bring a stuffed animal and costume it with stuff they find at the convention, then have a silly-as-possible thing.  Bonus points if the judges have been drinking.  At CC27 we had lots of drinks and deliberated in a closet.  Literally.  Lots of fun.

 

 

 

Group: runacc Message: 3093 From: ma0902432 Date: 6/12/2016
Subject: Re: Costume-Con “Traditions”
Although one thing I know we all want to be careful of is MORE contests,
I really enjoyed the Quilt contest. I started it at CC27, in memory of
Bobby Gear, who was a grand quilter and taught me a lot about quilting.
It hasn’t been seen EVERY year since, but most, I know we had it last
year at CC33 in Charleston and it was memorable. Those of us who quilt
regularly, usually have one or two things enter once the County Fairs,
etc are done. And I know I’ve met a few folks who specifically made
their first quilt to enter at CC, plus it’s always interesting if the con
has a special category.

Lisa a

On 10 Jun 2016 17:40:43 -0700 “von_drago@yahoo.com [runacc]”
<runacc@yahoogroups.com> writes:

In light of recent discussions it seems like we might need to codify some
of the generally expected customs and activities that are not
specifically required in the CC ConStitution but have established
themselves at Costume-Con year after year. Not that they have to be
included every year but habitual attendees can be disappointed by things
that Con-coms never knew about. Plus it would be good to have the history
of all these CC traditions.

Examples:
Exhibits
Dead Dog Party
Announcement Process
Guild Chapter Awards
Mousekerade
Half-time Videos
Photo Run
Doll Contest
Hospitality

So to aid both future Con-coms and attendees, and to preserve this
history for the Archives, we�d like to compile a list of the non-official
Costume-Con Traditions. Include everything you know � origin (year &
persons), impact, personal stories, and its demise (if applicable).

So what do you expect at a Costume-Con that is not outlined in the
ConStitution? Discuss.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 3094 From: ma0902432 Date: 6/12/2016
Subject: Re: Re: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”
Most attendees, esp that masquerade participants, think it’s AWESOME if
the videos are available to buy at the con itself. I love Syd, and I
understand wanting to spend more time editing it, but what seems to
happen most times is that it “gets lost” and folks who wanted a video
record of what they did never get it. It might be months later, or in
some cases over a year later, that the video gets produced, and a lot of
times, alerts or notices that it’s finally available don’t get directed
to the people who most want to know.

The Dead Dog Party Mon. evvening, while not set in stone, has been a nice
time at other CC’s in the past. USually it wasn’t much more than having
the con suite, or some larger space, available with seating (comfortable
chairs!) so that people can wander in and out, talk to people, and show
off the cool fabric they bought on Monday outings, and the rest of us can
“ooh” and “aaah” over it. HAving Archives video playing is nice–having
Masquerade video from the Con is nice. Even slide shows of costumes past
is nice. Food and drinks are nice. The Mouskerade was some people
dressing up some stuffed animals in costumes, I personally was never into
it, but people seemed to enjoy it. My feeling is that by Monday night,
I’ve had enough competition for the while. It should be relaxing. The
past con, and I think at least one or two recently, there didn’t seem to
be any real plan for Monday night.

Lisa a

On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 11:44:35 -0400 “Sharon Sbarsky sbarsky@gmail.com
[runacc]” <runacc@yahoogroups.com> writes:

yes, this! I would love to know what people consider “traditional” enough
that there will be disappointments or complaints if they didn’t happen.

What is the Mousekerade? That either hasn’t been at any of the CCs I’ve
attended, or was low enough on my radar/interest that I didn’t pay
attention.

The others I’m pretty aware of, in at least one iteration.

I would also like to hear opinions on the “official video” availability
and sales. Eric stated that it was a “rule” that the video *must* be
available for sale *at* the CC for people to buy and go home with. But I
also know that some video directors (like Syd) like to spend more time on
creating the official video, including credits of crew and entrants, and
make it available some time later. I couldn’t find any rule on this in
the Constitution, but what is expected?

Sharon

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 8:40 PM, von_drago@yahoo.com [runacc]
<runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

In light of recent discussions it seems like we might need to codify some
of the generally expected customs and activities that are not
specifically required in the CC ConStitution but have established
themselves at Costume-Con year after year. Not that they have to be
included every year but habitual attendees can be disappointed by things
that Con-coms never knew about. Plus it would be good to have the history
of all these CC traditions.

Examples:
Exhibits
Dead Dog Party
Announcement Process
Guild Chapter Awards
Mousekerade
Half-time Videos
Photo Run
Doll Contest
Hospitality

So to aid both future Con-coms and attendees, and to preserve this
history for the Archives, we�d like to compile a list of the non-official
Costume-Con Traditions. Include everything you know � origin (year &
persons), impact, personal stories, and its demise (if applicable).

So what do you expect at a Costume-Con that is not outlined in the
ConStitution? Discuss.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 3095 From: ma0902432 Date: 6/12/2016
Subject: Re: Re: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”
Bobby Gear Memorial Quilt contest, great to have at least one themed
award

Ribbons and certificates

I recall a few years that had a Victorian pool party

Hall costumes, special themes are great, like a convention ‘motif’,
special contests for each day, if well-publicized, have been fun, group
hall costumes

An afternoon Tea could be great–there have been a few on Sunday
afternoons in the past, perhaps a Monday afternoon/evening Tea could work

Exhibits: I personally LOVE the chance to get see some fantastic older
costumes up close, exhibits are great when you can actually WALK AROUND
the whole costume, and get a closer look at props

Costumer Retrospectives: I don’t remember the exact con they started, it
had been done a couple times by CC27, when I was invited to give one. I
can’t say enough how much I love these. It gives you a real chance to
get inside a costumer’s head and understand better how they think while
costuming, what their creative process is. I’d like it to become a
tradition of 1 or 2 costumers at every CC, can be chosen by the Con Chair
and Committee.

The Archives giving the Half-time entertainment at least during the F&SF
Masquerade–may not be an official “tradition” yet, but it is always
entertaining, and gives us a better understanding and appreciation of our
art form

Lisa a

On 11 Jun 2016 13:58:24 -0700 “von_drago@yahoo.com [runacc]”
<runacc@yahoogroups.com> writes:

We definitely want things not on that list – those are just some examples
and there are plenty more.

Nora

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 3096 From: spiritof_76 Date: 6/12/2016
Subject: Re: CC34 Future Fashion Folio

I didn’t see it. However, I can see how a landscape format would lend
itself to having a design on one side and the text on the other. It
would also display well on computer screens or when projected.

Michael

On 2016-06-10 21:05, Byron P Connell byronpconnell@gmail.com [runacc]
wrote:

> No, no opinion. So long as I can print it easily, I don’t care which
> way the pages are oriented.
>
> Byron
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 3097 From: ECM Date: 6/14/2016
Subject: Re: CC34 Future Fashion Folio

 

Still no better for me.
Elaine


To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 17:33:33 -0700
Subject: [runacc] Re: CC34 Future Fashion Folio

 

So no opinion?

Nora

 

 

Group: runacc Message: 3098 From: ECM Date: 6/14/2016
Subject: RE: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”

 

IMHO, Hospitality is a given for any con.  Ours just happens to be more formal than most, and replaces all those individual room parties.
CC5 began the chapter awards, when Kevin got the first Spazzy for his Hall Costume.  Thus are traditions begun.
Everything else, I feel, belongs to the individual con-coms to include or not.
Elaine


To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 11:44:35 -0400
Subject: Re: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”

 

yes, this! I would love to know what people consider “traditional” enough that there will be disappointments or complaints if they didn’t happen.
What is the Mousekerade? That either hasn’t been at any of the CCs I’ve attended, or was low enough on my radar/interest that I didn’t pay attention.

The others I’m pretty aware of, in at least one iteration.

I would also like to hear opinions on the “official video” availability and sales. Eric stated that it was a “rule” that the video *must* be available for sale *at* the CC for people to buy and go home with. But I also know that some video directors (like Syd) like to spend more time on creating the official video, including credits of crew and entrants, and make it available some time later. I couldn’t find any rule on this in the Constitution, but what is expected?

Sharon

 

 

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 8:40 PM, von_drago@yahoo.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

In light of recent discussions it seems like we might need
to codify some of the generally expected customs and activities that are not
specifically required in the CC ConStitution but have established themselves at
Costume-Con year after year. Not that they have to be included every year but
habitual attendees can be disappointed by things that Con-coms never knew
about. Plus it would be good to have the history of all these CC traditions.

 

Examples:

Exhibits

Dead Dog Party

Announcement Process

Guild Chapter Awards

Mousekerade

Half-time Videos

Photo Run

Doll Contest

Hospitality

 

So to aid both future Con-coms and attendees, and to
preserve this history for the Archives, we’d like to compile a list of the
non-official Costume-Con Traditions. Include everything you know – origin (year
& persons), impact, personal stories, and its demise (if applicable).

 

So what do you expect at a Costume-Con that is not outlined
in the ConStitution? Discuss.

 

 

 

 

 

Group: runacc Message: 3099 From: ECM Date: 6/14/2016
Subject: RE: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”

 

IMHO, Hospitality is a given for any con.  Ours just happens to be more formal than most, and replaces all those individual room parties.
CC5 began the chapter awards, when Kevin got the first Spazzy for his Hall Costume.  Thus are traditions begun.
Everything else, I feel, belongs to the individual con-coms to include or not.
Elaine


To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 11:44:35 -0400
Subject: Re: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”

 

yes, this! I would love to know what people consider “traditional” enough that there will be disappointments or complaints if they didn’t happen.
What is the Mousekerade? That either hasn’t been at any of the CCs I’ve attended, or was low enough on my radar/interest that I didn’t pay attention.

The others I’m pretty aware of, in at least one iteration.

I would also like to hear opinions on the “official video” availability and sales. Eric stated that it was a “rule” that the video *must* be available for sale *at* the CC for people to buy and go home with. But I also know that some video directors (like Syd) like to spend more time on creating the official video, including credits of crew and entrants, and make it available some time later. I couldn’t find any rule on this in the Constitution, but what is expected?

Sharon

 

 

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 8:40 PM, von_drago@yahoo.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

In light of recent discussions it seems like we might need
to codify some of the generally expected customs and activities that are not
specifically required in the CC ConStitution but have established themselves at
Costume-Con year after year. Not that they have to be included every year but
habitual attendees can be disappointed by things that Con-coms never knew
about. Plus it would be good to have the history of all these CC traditions.

 

Examples:

Exhibits

Dead Dog Party

Announcement Process

Guild Chapter Awards

Mousekerade

Half-time Videos

Photo Run

Doll Contest

Hospitality

 

So to aid both future Con-coms and attendees, and to
preserve this history for the Archives, we’d like to compile a list of the
non-official Costume-Con Traditions. Include everything you know – origin (year
& persons), impact, personal stories, and its demise (if applicable).

 

So what do you expect at a Costume-Con that is not outlined
in the ConStitution? Discuss.

 

 

 

 

 

Group: runacc Message: 3100 From: Trudy Leonard Date: 6/16/2016
Subject: Re: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”

 

Maybe at 17? I remember judging one with Pierre and Sandy, not too long after the original.

 

Trudy

 


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Mousekerade Origin – CC16; one of the vendors had a rack of Folkmanis hand puppets including white mice. Some folks used stuffies they had brought with them. Drinking may have been involved 🙂

I know it was done at 25 & 27 – what other years had a Mousekerade?

 

Nora

 

 

Group: runacc Message: 3101 From: costumrs Date: 6/16/2016
Subject: Re: Costume-Con “Traditions”

 

This may have been said before, but I think one of the “must-haves” (so long as it doesn’t break the bank) is a dead dog party, at least something for people to do Monday afternoon/evening. I’ve really missed it the last two years.
My opinion only.
Sandy
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From: “Trudy Leonard georgialei@hotmail.com [runacc]” <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 6/16/16 12:37 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”

 

Maybe at 17? I remember judging one with Pierre and Sandy, not too long after the original.

 

Trudy

 


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Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 4:57 PM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”

 

Mousekerade Origin – CC16; one of the vendors had a rack of Folkmanis hand puppets including white mice. Some folks used stuffies they had brought with them. Drinking may have been involved 🙂

I know it was done at 25 & 27 – what other years had a Mousekerade?

 

Nora

 

 

Group: runacc Message: 3102 From: Kevin Roche Date: 6/16/2016
Subject: Re: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”

26 had a mousekerade

On Thursday, June 16, 2016, costumrs costumrs@radiks.net [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

This may have been said before, but I think one of the “must-haves” (so long as it doesn’t break the bank) is a dead dog party, at least something for people to do Monday afternoon/evening. I’ve really missed it the last two years.
My opinion only.
Sandy
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
——– Original message ——–
From: “Trudy Leonard georgialei@hotmail.com [runacc]” <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 6/16/16 12:37 AM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”

 

Maybe at 17? I remember judging one with Pierre and Sandy, not too long after the original.

 

Trudy

 


From: runacc@yahoogroups.com <runacc@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of von_drago@yahoo.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 4:57 PM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [runacc] Costume-Con “Traditions”

 

Mousekerade Origin – CC16; one of the vendors had a rack of Folkmanis hand puppets including white mice. Some folks used stuffies they had brought with them. Drinking may have been involved 🙂

I know it was done at 25 & 27 – what other years had a Mousekerade?

 

Nora

 

 

 

 

Group: runacc Message: 3103 From: Byron Connell Date: 6/18/2016
Subject: Fwd: [SLCG-X] SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Green Room

 

I intended this to be part of the SLCG review of CC 34; however, it did not get done in time. I hope it is useful.

 

Byron Connell
CC 34 Green Room Manager

 

 

 

Begin forwarded message:

 

From: Byron Connell <byronpconnell@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [SLCG-X] SLCG Costume-Con 34 Review: Green Room
Date: June 3, 2016 at 7:22:55 PM EDT

 

First, kudos to the con for providing a space for the green room that was (1) large, (2) clear of obstructions (such as columns) and without alcoves, (3) convenient to the stage, (4) well lighted, (5) equipped with enough chairs and tables, and (6) not used for any other purpose during the con. The green room crew’s ability to have access to the room at any time made our jobs a lot easier. The live video feed made it simple for me to cue dens to line up and go to the stage. The accompanying sound was quite poor; however, I don’t need good sound in order to do this. Future concoms would do well to do likewise.

One of the standard problems at a CC is staffing the green room, because so many members enter multiple shows. In this case, between volunteers seeking me out . . . , my recruits, and members signing up at the staff office, there were enough staff for the SF&F and Historical masquerades, if not a generous number. That was less true for the FFF and not true at all for the SPC. In both shows, however, I was expecting less chaos and a simpler format since these ran as fashion shows, not masquerades. In particular, I did not have any staff for the SPG, nor did I expect to do so since it was on the first night of the con during the Friday Night Social. I was caught by surprise by the number of entrants in the SPC but simply arranged two dens of a dozen chairs each to accommodate them.
The location of the official photographer, just off the green room, was reasonably convenient and den moms were able to shoo their entrants into lines for photography fairly easily. The workmanship judges were at the far end of the room. Because lines for judging moved slowly, seating for those on line (who could sit down in their costumes) was used.
When I saw the green room for the first time, chairs were arranged theater style. I began to strike them into either den semicircles or stacks against the walls. However, it wasn’t until after the SF&F that the last of the theater style seating was moved (by hotel staff).
The snacks and drinks available in the green room were catered by the hotel. What we got was what the con could afford. I don’t know what the con’s budget for green room food was; however, for Chicon 7’s single masquerade green room, the food cost over $2,400. You get what you pay for and the con was not paying for dinner. The budget covered 4 green rooms. We specified the stuff we didn’t want (sticky, likely to smear on costumes, no peanuts, and so forth) and that we were looking for stuff to give entrants a quick energy boost. What we got was bowls of candy, popcorn, and similar finger foods, and canned beverages. Future concoms need to keep in mind the cost of catering by the venue and plan accordingly.
Tina reported that the repair table was quite busy at times, however, we were able to meet everybody’s needs. The mirrors provided by the con were used regularly. They also are a feature that future concoms should provide.
My big screw-up was in the SF&F, where I used what I mistakenly believed was the running order to set up the dens. The list appeared to be in running order, with alphabetic designators beginning with “a” and going through the alphabet. It was about an hour and a half after the room opened that I received the true running order and realized the magnitude of my mistake. It was necessary to hurriedly re-arrange the entrants and their dens, pull some early numbers from the judging line and move others to the front of the line. However, wew were able to do so without disrupting the start of the show.
Apparently, what I was given initially was the list of entries as they had been logged in at registration. What confused me was the alphabetic designators for each entry. I can only suggest in the strongest terms that future concoms using registration programs that assign such designators keep the designators private for the MD and registration staff and do not let them appear on any lists disseminated to other staff.
In comparison to the SF&F running order, I was given the Historical masquerade running order at about 9:30 Sunday morning, in the FFF green room. Many thanks to the MD for doing this. It allowed me to determine how many dens I needed and how many chairs to put in each den, and to reserve the final den for the 17-member entry. I even had time to prepare 3×5 cards for each entry as a check-in aid for me and the den moms.
Byron

 

On May 26, 2016, at 10:05 PM, Dave Kanoy davekanoy@sbcglobal.net [SLCG-X] <SLCG-X@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

As I recall, the dens weren’t arranged by entry number, but rather by the order they signed up for the masquerade.  This caused some chaotic movement in the green room and a bit of calling of entrants so they could line up.
Green room was well stocked with water and snacks.  The emergency repair table was called on once by the entry I was ninja-ing for and they had what we needed, so good on ’em.  There seemed to be plenty of room, until the drow queen started getting into her contraption.  Then things got big and crowded.
Later,
Dave Kanoy


On Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:16 PM, “casamai@sbcglobal.net [SLCG-X]” <SLCG-X@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



 

Byron?   Take it away.   Anybody else have a comment about the Green Room?