This had to be one of the most entertaining Historical Masquerades in the
convention’s history. Each costume was well done, the presentations clever
and not overly long.

Here’s the awards breakdown:

16 Entries – 15 with awards, 1 without (virtually 100%)

Divisions: 6 Master, 3 Journeymen, 7 Novice

Awards: 4 Documentation, 9 Workmanship, 10 Presentation; total: 23 awards

So, this masquerade seemed more balanced, although – was it really so good
that EVERYONE should get an award? Maybe – the issue becomes, if everyone
gets an award, the awards could lose their meaning.

It also points out how different judging can be from one panel to another.

One other thing of note that CC comcoms/MDs should consider: When having a
post-masquerade photo run on the stage, someone on the crew needs to be
appointed as costumer wrangler. By this, I mean, have someone show where
they should stand so that fan photographers can best see their subject in
the stage lights, suggest some poses, MAKE THE COSTUMER HOLD STILL LONG
ENOUGH THAT PEOPLE CAN FOCUS AND SHOOT, and make sure that all the fans have
taken their shots before the costumer either changes pose or leaves the
stage.

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For Carl’s, he was up on a riser, doing video. We were just told to make sure someone was on the riser with him in case he needed “any kind of help,” as he had recently had heart problems. Help was needed, both to catch him as he dove off of the riser and to grab the video and keep shooting!

Elaine

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To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: MartinGear@comcast.net
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 20:31:05 -0400
Subject: Re: [runacc] CC28 report – LAA — FOR THIS LIST ONLY

For what it is worth, for the very first LAA, Janet just told me to go
find Marjii, stay with her, and not let her leave the backstage area
(Marjii was a contestant), and get her on stage at “the appropriate
time”. (She left it up to me to figure out what the appropriate time
was.) All without telling me anything about the LAA.
I don’t remember what happened when I got mine other than I really
didn’t think that I deserved it. (No, I’m not giving it back!)
Marty

Andrew T Trembley wrote:

>
>
> On Jun 18, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Betsy Delaney wrote:
> > I wasn’t there so I can’t say for sure what happened, but future concoms
> > should take note that from what I’ve read, this arrangement was WAY
> > suboptimal, especially for a con like Costume-Con, and goes far
> beyond just
> > the LAA.
>
> There was a lot of suboptimal, but there was also one unusual problem.
>
> Richard had a memory card go sour and corrupt a bunch of photos
> (fortunately he discovered this during judging when he was providing
> us references), so he and Chris had to get a bunch of entrants back to
> the photo area to reshoot them. Nora was one of them, and got called
> back to photo a minute or two before the LAA. Horrible timing, but it
> would be difficult to avoid.
>
> That said, it would be a good thing for the Pres to let another
> officer present in on the selection before the show starts (to keep
> track of the winner during the show) and the MD if the winner is an
> entrant in the show.
>
> andy
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So, despite some bad vibes, everyone who attended had a pretty good time.
And as is usually the case, you make your own fun, and it’s always enjoyable
to get together with the people you only see in person once a year.

Final grade: the con averaged a C+. Let’s hope CC29 learns from the
problems with communication, and organization at CC28.

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Got slightly out of order there, but – we’re getting near the end.

Monday activities were practically non-existent – had it not been for the
Archives program and the SLCG bowling outing, there was not much reason to
stick around. There should have been some other light panel programming.
The reason for no real panel programming was a cost-saving measure on
meeting space. Again, many people complained that this effectively made CC28
more of a three day con, not a 4-day, which is normally promoted.

Sunday night, there were conflicting times and locations announced during
the Historical Masq on for the Archives Road Show. On Monday morning, the
Archivists were told the show would be in the con suite used all weekend.
At 11:00 am, halfway through the show, word was given that the show and the
audience would have to move down to the Con Chair’s suite. So we all had to
trundle down there to finish up. Rather annoying.

Nonetheless, the Road Show proved popular. The room was very full. We had
several of the people in the room featured in the videos, so they got a
little extra recognition as either having participated in a historically
significant costume presentation or were one of the “15 Costumers You Should
Know”. All in all, despite the inconvenience of picking up and moving, the
turnout of people confirmed the Road Show is a good fit for Monday
programming.

The Bowling With the SLUTs event was a lot of fun. About 21 of us from the
convention went, including 8 folks from Canada.

The Dead Dog party was rather subdued – even with the Mousekerade. Probably
more people left the con Monday after learning of the lack of much

programming. Most of us turned in early, to get ready to leave on Tuesday.
That was disappointing.

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In a message dated 6/9/2010 6:16:57 AM Central Daylight Time,
casamai@sbcglobal.net writes:

> While the hotel made a nice setting for the theme of the con, the
> atmosphere
> did not justify the costs to stay there. We’ve been proponents of
> suburban/industrial park hotels ever since CC16 – the room nights cost
> less
> and the parking is free. (The only drawback might be fewer places to eat
> within walking distance, but not always). We thought the lesson was
> learned
> for CC21.

In choosing the location for CC28, I considered what was near the hotel.
Hotels that may have cost less, in every respect, are near very little.
Especially on foot. Not everyone drives to Costume-Con. There was an abundance of
places to eat and see within blocks of the hotel. I was also aware that many
people like to see things when they come.

Adding to the irritation was the fact that the water park in the

> hotel was not included in the room nights because that would’ve added
> even
> more cost. This makes two years in a row with no pool or hot tub.
>

If the cost of water park admission had been included in the room rate, it
would have raised the rate by about $20. I put out a call to see if there
were enough people interested in going to the water park before the con, in
hopes to get a group rate. I only had about 6 people interested.

> On the plus side, the hotel staff was friendly and it had three
> restaurants.
> One comment was made that the Café service was not very good, but everyone
> had a positive one for the Irish pub. The elevators all worked and were
> very fast.
>

The staff has always been friendly there. The one time I went to the Cafe
before the con, I was not impressed. If you mean the Miller Pub when you say
the Irish Pub, I have always gotten great service in there.

> The rooms, themselves, were designed oddly – possibly as a result of
> updates. The towel racks were in the tub(?), the sink jutted out so much
> that one couldn’t get very close to the mirror (important for makeup,
> shaving, etc.) and the beds had the ugliest headboards imaginable. Closet
> space differed from room to room – some were very deep, while others were
> not big enough. The dressers only had two drawers, and they were very
> shallow.

You were, and almost everyone, was in the old section of the hotel, which
was built back in the 20’s. Have you forgotten the rooms at the Hotel Fort
Des Moines? They were not the standard, modern, cookie-cutter rooms. Those
ugly head boards have since been changed out, FYI.

There were some isolated complaints about room problems – one had

> a thermostat problem, and another room had a smoke detector that wouldn’t
> stop beeping, so the occupants had to move because the hotel staff had no
> simple solution.
>

They heating system is as old as the building, and weird. They have a hard
time getting it to function the way they would like it.

> And what was up with the bottles of water in them, where you
> would be charged $4 for drinking one?
>

Um, standard in many hotels these days, I have found. Just like the minibar
which looks like a minifridge, and they charge you if it is not stocked
when the maids come around in the morning. Even if the stuff is sitting right
there on top the thing.

> Parking cost $12 a day. The only positive things said were at least the
> covered and attached garage, allowed people to stay dry while loading and
> unloading vehicle (it rained on the way home).
>

That rate was in our contract.

> One last quote: “The parking garage – does everybody in Milwaukee drive
> like
> a psycho or just the people in that garage? I think 50 mph is kind of fast
> inside &they loved to use their horns.”
>
>

They lease parking space to a neighboring office building. I have passed
this along and they have spoken with them.

Henry

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In a message dated 6/9/2010 7:05:30 PM Central Daylight Time,
bpconnell@verizon.net writes:

>
> The quality of breakfast in the Cafe was mediocre at best. I did not have
> a positive word for the Pub.
>

Why? Poor service? Lack of selection? I’m curious.

> While I can sympathize with those who missed a pool, I did not.
>

The only time I actually got to the pool at a CC was CC19 in Calgary.
Mainly because I was new in the group, did not know many folks, and had the time.

> I’ve seen bottled water labeled at a lot more than $4 each at some places
> I’ve stayed. Bottles of water in hotel rooms are like mini-bars in hotel
> rooms; it is best to ignore their existence.

What he said.

Henry

More responses tomorrow.

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Those were my comments. While the Cafe’s breakfast buffet was a standard Hilton breakfast buffet, when I tried the waffles instead of eggs,they were cardboardy and tough. They seemed to have been sitting there far too long. If no egg chef was present, as happened at least one, the steam table scrambled eggs were no better than one would expect from steam-table scrambled eggs. Bacon was very salty; the sausages were decent. Sandy warned us off on the Eggs Benedict on the menu.

I had lunch twice in the Miller’s Pub. Service was fine; however, by the end of the second meal, I had exhausted everything on the menu I would eat and had no reason to go back again. This was a problem because I was unable to have dinner on either Saturday or Sunday since I was tied up in the green room until real late on both evenings. That’s fine, if I can have a substantial late lunch; however, that was difficult to do both days. (Tina and I went to the mall food court both times, if I recall correctly.) Dinner in the steak house on our first evening was extremely expensive and almost worth the price.

On Monday, we drove to Fleming’s in a suburb and had a superb dinner (which we expect to have at a Fleming’s).

Byron

On Jun 23, 2010, at 5:58 PM, osierhenry@cs.com wrote:

> In a message dated 6/9/2010 7:05:30 PM Central Daylight Time,
> bpconnell@verizon.net writes:
> >
> > The quality of breakfast in the Cafe was mediocre at best. I did not have
> > a positive word for the Pub.
> >
> Why? Poor service? Lack of selection? I’m curious.
>
> > While I can sympathize with those who missed a pool, I did not.
> >
> The only time I actually got to the pool at a CC was CC19 in Calgary.
> Mainly because I was new in the group, did not know many folks, and had the time.
>
> > I’ve seen bottled water labeled at a lot more than $4 each at some places
> > I’ve stayed. Bottles of water in hotel rooms are like mini-bars in hotel
> > rooms; it is best to ignore their existence.
>
> What he said.
>
> Henry
>
> More responses tomorrow.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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In a message dated 6/23/2010 8:17:26 PM Central Daylight Time,
bpconnell@verizon.net writes:

> Those were my comments. While the Cafe’s breakfast buffet was a standard
> Hilton breakfast buffet, when I tried the waffles instead of eggs,they
> were cardboardy and tough. They seemed to have been sitting there far too
> long. If no egg chef was present, as happened at least one, the steam table
> scrambled eggs were no better than one would expect from steam-table
> scrambled eggs. Bacon was very salty; the sausages were decent. Sandy warned us
> off on the Eggs Benedict on the menu.
>

I don’t have much to say about that.

> I had lunch twice in the Miller’s Pub. Service was fine; however, by the
> end of the second meal, I had exhausted everything on the menu I would eat
> and had no reason to go back again. This was a problem because I was
> unable to have dinner on either Saturday or Sunday since I was tied up in the
> green room until real late on both evenings. That’s fine, if I can have a
> substantial late lunch; however, that was difficult to do both days. (Tina
> and I went to the mall food court both times, if I recall correctly.)
> Dinner in the steak house on our first evening was extremely expensive and
> almost worth the price.
>

They did add extra staff in the pub for us, but, yea, small menu. I heard
the Chop House was good, but did not have the time to try it.

> On Monday, we drove to Fleming’s in a suburb and had a superb dinner
> (which we expect to have at a Fleming’s).

That was out in Brookfield. You should have ask me for a recommendation of
where to eat. I could have found you a place closer to the hotel. Even given
you directions to a few East Indian places.

Henry

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In a message dated 6/9/2010 10:10:04 PM Central Daylight Time,
casamai@sbcglobal.net writes:

> We were glad to see the Con Suite open on Thursday night, although not
> all
> the membership packet pieces were ready to be distributed by the time
> people
> were arriving in the evening.

That was because we did not get the program books till that morning. We got
extremely fortunate that our Webhost has an HP9000 printer. That’s one of
those that is about three foot on side and can handle huge print jobs. It
saved us probably about $500 to $700 on printing.

The size of the suite was adequate for> handling the expected crowds. The

> hours for the con suite during the weekend were reasonable, but it was
> understaffed.

Finding a person to run ConSuite was continual hard spot to fill. Wendy Z
from Chicago said she would tackle the running of the place at the con months
before the con. I got advice from friends in St. Louis and a friend in town
that works and runs the Convergence ConSuite. He was unavailable to run it
due to his job. A friend of Wendy and myself stepped up to the plate to help
her out, and the MACS guild volunteered to help, but I think they were
distracted by their first CC.

The person did a good job of stocking supplies with what they had, but some
people

> said there wasn’t enough variety.
>

We got what we thought would be a basic assortment.

Not complaining, but I wish that Elaine had told me she was going to get a
half barrel of Sprecher Root Beer, a local brand. When it went back Monday,
it was still over half full. It would have been nice to have that thing
going all weekend. sigh

> If it hadn’t been for the future CC parties, the fare would have
> been rather dull. The Kringle in the mornings did make it unnecessary to
> go
> out for breakfast, which was nice.
>

We were just looking to have basics, with a few local things. Like the
cheese curds, which we had to restock over the weekend. And, upon the suggestion
of Deech Mestrel in St. Louis, beef sticks. Those went well, too.

Henry

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Henry,

Actually, it was up and running (and being used!) all weekend. That’s why we didn’t return it earlier.

Elaine

Chaise, CC30

Not complaining, but I wish that Elaine had told me she was going to get a half barrel of Sprecher Root Beer, a local brand. When it went back Monday, it was still over half full. It would have been nice to have that thing
going all weekend. sigh

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From Tina, re: Flemings:
Henry, Byron & I weren’t looking for your recommendations. We had already planned to eat at Flemings, before we even left Albany. It’s a wonderful little chain of steakhouses, similar to Capital Grille, and we try to get to one whenever we are near to one of their locations.

I won’t say that price is no object, it definitely is, but at Flemings you know that you will always get an excellent, even superb, meal. Worth every penny! And it didn’t hurt that my boss had given me a $50 gift certificate that I could use there, back at Christmas. As soon as I got that, I started checking out the Milwaukee and Raleigh areas for locations.

Tina

— In runacc@yahoogroups.com, osierhenry@… wrote:
>
> In a message dated 6/23/2010 8:17:26 PM Central Daylight Time,
> bpconnell@… writes:
> > Those were my comments. While the Cafe’s breakfast buffet was a standard
> > Hilton breakfast buffet, when I tried the waffles instead of eggs,they
> > were cardboardy and tough. They seemed to have been sitting there far too
> > long. If no egg chef was present, as happened at least one, the steam table
> > scrambled eggs were no better than one would expect from steam-table
> > scrambled eggs. Bacon was very salty; the sausages were decent. Sandy warned us
> > off on the Eggs Benedict on the menu.
> >
>
> I don’t have much to say about that.
>
> > I had lunch twice in the Miller’s Pub. Service was fine; however, by the
> > end of the second meal, I had exhausted everything on the menu I would eat
> > and had no reason to go back again. This was a problem because I was
> > unable to have dinner on either Saturday or Sunday since I was tied up in the
> > green room until real late on both evenings. That’s fine, if I can have a
> > substantial late lunch; however, that was difficult to do both days. (Tina
> > and I went to the mall food court both times, if I recall correctly.)
> > Dinner in the steak house on our first evening was extremely expensive and
> > almost worth the price.
> >
> They did add extra staff in the pub for us, but, yea, small menu. I heard
> the Chop House was good, but did not have the time to try it.
>
> > On Monday, we drove to Fleming’s in a suburb and had a superb dinner
> > (which we expect to have at a Fleming’s).
>
> That was out in Brookfield. You should have ask me for a recommendation of
> where to eat. I could have found you a place closer to the hotel. Even given
> you directions to a few East Indian places.
>
> Henry
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

In a message dated 6/27/2010 6:11:50 PM Central Daylight Time,
ecmami@hotmail.com writes:

> Actually, it was up and running (and being used!) all weekend. That’s
> why we didn’t return it earlier.

It was? Golly! Shows you how busy I was! I never got up there! And I am
surprised it was as full as it was when it went back.

Henry

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In a message dated 6/27/2010 7:51:45 PM Central Daylight Time,
connell-t1@verizon.net writes:

> From Tina, re: Flemings:
>
> I won’t say that price is no object, it definitely is, but at Flemings you
> know that you will always get an excellent, even superb, meal. Worth every
> penny
>
>

Well, thanks for that info! I drive past it every month on the job and
wonder how it is.

Henry

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In a message dated 6/10/2010 8:39:02 PM Central Daylight Time,
casamai@sbcglobal.net writes:

> A call for programming occurred only a month or two before the
> convention.
>
>
>

I want to double check on this date before I comment further.

Henry

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However, stuck back in a corner, many people didn’t know it was there.

Bruce

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From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Elaine Mami
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 6:10 PM
To: Betsy D
Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite

Henry,

Actually, it was up and running (and being used!) all weekend. That’s why
we didn’t return it earlier.

Elaine

Chaise, CC30

Not complaining, but I wish that Elaine had told me she was going to get a
half barrel of Sprecher Root Beer, a local brand. When it went back Monday,
it was still over half full. It would have been nice to have that thing
going all weekend. sigh

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I’m sorry you missed it. It was put there to keep more room open for socializing, to be closer to the large chairs (for a clubby feel), and for the availablity of the outlet. Almost everyone found it on Saturday night, and it was never moved, because of the weight of it.

E

Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite

However, stuck back in a corner, many people didn’t know it was there.

Bruce

To: Betsy D
Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite

Henry,

Actually, it was up and running (and being used!) all weekend. That’s why
we didn’t return it earlier.

Elaine

Chaise, CC30

Not complaining, but I wish that Elaine had told me she was going to get a
half barrel of Sprecher Root Beer, a local brand. When it went back Monday,
it was still over half full. It would have been nice to have that thing
going all weekend. sigh

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I have to agree with Bruce on this. The first I heard about it was on this list.

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: casamai@sbcglobal.net
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 06:29:19 -0500
Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite

However, stuck back in a corner, many people didn’t know it was there.

Bruce

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Sorry.

Elaine

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: kaijugal@hotmail.com
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 20:32:21 -0400
Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite

I have to agree with Bruce on this. The first I heard about it was on this list.

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: casamai@sbcglobal.net
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 06:29:19 -0500
Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite

However, stuck back in a corner, many people didn’t know it was there.

Bruce

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^_^;; No need to be sorry Elaine, it’s just a shame that it seems some of us didn’t know about it.

I think with all cons, there are too many things to know. ^_^’

> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> From: ecmami@hotmail.com
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 20:54:01 -0400
> Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite
>
>
> Sorry.
>
> Elaine
>
>
>
>
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> From: kaijugal@hotmail.com
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 20:32:21 -0400
> Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I have to agree with Bruce on this. The first I heard about it was on this list.
>
>
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> From: casamai@sbcglobal.net
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 06:29:19 -0500
> Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite
>
> However, stuck back in a corner, many people didn’t know it was there.
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> Bruce
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That’s exactly why the post-con commentaries are so important! I know Dora, Michael & I are paying close attention to all of them, and passing them on to our department heads in order to avoid those mistakes.

Actually, I plan to make entirely *different* mistakes!!

Elaine

Chaise, CC30

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: kaijugal@hotmail.com
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 00:54:41 -0400
Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite

^_^;; No need to be sorry Elaine, it’s just a shame that it seems some of us didn’t know about it.

I think with all cons, there are too many things to know. ^_^’

> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> From: ecmami@hotmail.com
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 20:54:01 -0400
> Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite
>
>
> Sorry.
>
> Elaine
>
>
>
>
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> From: kaijugal@hotmail.com
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 20:32:21 -0400
> Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite
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>
>
> I have to agree with Bruce on this. The first I heard about it was on this list.
>
>
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> From: casamai@sbcglobal.net
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 06:29:19 -0500
> Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite
>
> However, stuck back in a corner, many people didn’t know it was there.
>
> Bruce
>
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At 07:54 PM 7/2/2010, you wrote:

I think this was one of those you cannot win situations. If it had
been more “obvious” it would have been in the way. It wasn’t in the
way, but wasn’t as obvious. Though I found it easily enough and
enjoyed it immensely.

Pierre

>Sorry.
>
>Elaine
>
>To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
>From: kaijugal@hotmail.com
>Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 20:32:21 -0400
>Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite
>
>I have to agree with Bruce on this. The first I heard about it was
>on this list.
>
>To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
>From: casamai@sbcglobal.net
>Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 06:29:19 -0500
>Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite
>
>However, stuck back in a corner, many people didn’t know it was there.
>
>Bruce

“Those Who Fail to Learn History
Are Doomed to Repeat It;
Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly –
Why They Are Simply Doomed.”

Achemdro’hm
“The Illusion of Historical Fact”
— C. Y. 4971

Andromeda

New mistakes, while not good, are at least better than the same old
mistakes.

Nora

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From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Elaine Mami
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 12:01 PM
To: Betsy D
Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite

That’s exactly why the post-con commentaries are so important! I know Dora,
Michael & I are paying close attention to all of them, and passing them on
to our department heads in order to avoid those mistakes.

Actually, I plan to make entirely *different* mistakes!!

Elaine

Chaise, CC30

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: kaijugal@hotmail.com
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 00:54:41 -0400
Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite

^_^;; No need to be sorry Elaine, it’s just a shame that it seems some of us
didn’t know about it.

I think with all cons, there are too many things to know. ^_^’

> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> From: ecmami@hotmail.com
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 20:54:01 -0400
> Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite
>
>
> Sorry.
>
> Elaine
>
>
>
>
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> From: kaijugal@hotmail.com
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 20:32:21 -0400
> Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I have to agree with Bruce on this. The first I heard about it was on this

list.

>
>
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> From: casamai@sbcglobal.net
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 06:29:19 -0500
> Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite
>
> However, stuck back in a corner, many people didn’t know it was there.
>
> Bruce
>
>
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Perhaps a sign on the wall saying “Here there be Root Beer!” with an arrow pointing down (or something like that) would’ve solved the problem.

— In runacc@yahoogroups.com, Pierre & Sandy Pettinger <costumrs@…> wrote:
>
> At 07:54 PM 7/2/2010, you wrote:
>
> I think this was one of those you cannot win situations. If it had
> been more “obvious” it would have been in the way. It wasn’t in the
> way, but wasn’t as obvious. Though I found it easily enough and
> enjoyed it immensely.
>
> Pierre
>
> >Sorry.
> >
> >Elaine
> >
> >To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> >From: kaijugal@…
> >Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 20:32:21 -0400
> >Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite
> >
> >I have to agree with Bruce on this. The first I heard about it was
> >on this list.
> >
> >To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> >From: casamai@…
> >Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 06:29:19 -0500
> >Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite
> >
> >However, stuck back in a corner, many people didn’t know it was there.
> >
> >Bruce
>
> “Those Who Fail to Learn History
> Are Doomed to Repeat It;
> Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly –
> Why They Are Simply Doomed.”
>
> Achemdro’hm
> “The Illusion of Historical Fact”
> — C. Y. 4971
>
> Andromeda
>

Of course your will Elaine, or you wouldn’t be Elaine.  Maybe the heat out there has fried your brain cells. LOL.

________________________________
From: Elaine Mami <ecmami@hotmail.com>
To: Betsy D <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, July 3, 2010 1:00:41 PM
Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite

That’s exactly why the post-con commentaries are so important!  I know Dora, Michael & I are paying close attention to all of them, and passing them on to our department heads in order to avoid those mistakes.

Actually, I plan to make entirely *different* mistakes!!

Elaine

Chaise, CC30

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: kaijugal@hotmail.com
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 00:54:41 -0400
Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite

^_^;; No need to be sorry Elaine, it’s just a shame that it seems some of us didn’t know about it.

I think with all cons, there are too many things to know. ^_^’

> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> From: ecmami@hotmail.com
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 20:54:01 -0400
> Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite
>
>
> Sorry.
>
> Elaine
>
>
>
>
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> From: kaijugal@hotmail.com
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 20:32:21 -0400
> Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I have to agree with Bruce on this. The first I heard about it was on this list.
>
>
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> From: casamai@sbcglobal.net
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 06:29:19 -0500
> Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite
>
> However, stuck back in a corner, many people didn’t know it was there.
>
> Bruce
>
>
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You’d think word of mouth would have been enough, but people just don’t pay
attention. I only knew about it because Nora told me.

Bruce

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From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Pierre & Sandy Pettinger
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 9:11 AM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [runacc] RE: CC28 report – Con Suite

At 07:54 PM 7/2/2010, you wrote:

I think this was one of those you cannot win situations. If it had
been more “obvious” it would have been in the way. It wasn’t in the
way, but wasn’t as obvious. Though I found it easily enough and
enjoyed it immensely.

Pierre

>Sorry.
>
>Elaine
>
>To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
>From: kaijugal@hotmail.com
>Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 20:32:21 -0400
>Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite
>
>I have to agree with Bruce on this. The first I heard about it was
>on this list.
>
>To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
>From: casamai@sbcglobal.net
>Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 06:29:19 -0500
>Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite
>
>However, stuck back in a corner, many people didn’t know it was there.
>
>Bruce

Yeah, the sledgehammer approach at least betters your odds. 🙂

Bruce

—–Original Message—–
From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Margie
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 9:54 AM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [runacc] Re: CC28 report – Con Suite

Perhaps a sign on the wall saying “Here there be Root Beer!” with an arrow
pointing down (or something like that) would’ve solved the problem.

— In runacc@yahoogroups.com, Pierre & Sandy Pettinger <costumrs@…>
wrote:

>
> At 07:54 PM 7/2/2010, you wrote:
>
> I think this was one of those you cannot win situations. If it had
> been more “obvious” it would have been in the way. It wasn’t in the
> way, but wasn’t as obvious. Though I found it easily enough and
> enjoyed it immensely.
>
> Pierre
>
> >Sorry.
> >
> >Elaine
> >
> >To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> >From: kaijugal@…
> >Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 20:32:21 -0400
> >Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite
> >
> >I have to agree with Bruce on this. The first I heard about it was
> >on this list.
> >
> >To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> >From: casamai@…
> >Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 06:29:19 -0500
> >Subject: RE: [runacc] CC28 report – Con Suite
> >
> >However, stuck back in a corner, many people didn’t know it was there.
> >
> >Bruce
>
> “Those Who Fail to Learn History
> Are Doomed to Repeat It;
> Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly –
> Why They Are Simply Doomed.”
>
> Achemdro’hm
> “The Illusion of Historical Fact”
> — C. Y. 4971
>
> Andromeda
>

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Heat? What are you talking about? I set my A/C to 80 degrees and keep cool! It’s only 105 here this week ;P

We have a whole committee devoted to keeping my brain from exploding – they are the silly people who asked me to do this job, and the ones who volunteered to join the madness.

Elaine

Of course your will Elaine, or you wouldn’t be Elaine. Maybe the heat out there has fried your brain cells. LOL.

________________________________

That’s exactly why the post-con commentaries are so important! I know Dora, Michael & I are paying close attention to all of them, and passing them on to our department heads in order to avoid those mistakes.

Actually, I plan to make entirely *different* mistakes!!

Elaine

Chaise, CC30

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In a message dated 6/10/2010 8:40:19 PM Central Daylight Time,
casamai@sbcglobal.net writes:

> Some people felt it was smallish and limited in scope, but given the size
> of
> the convention, it wasn’t surprising. Most of our people felt the dealers
> weren’t particularly exciting, and thus didn’t buy much. Worst of all
> there were no book dealers.

This was another “last minute scramble” affair. The person who was working
on it had to bail out because of the medical conditions that her infant
daughter has. Another staffer jumped into the saddle and did the best she could
with limited time. Many dealers never replied to her, even after numerous
follow up e-mails and phone calls.

In regard to not buying much, maybe you did not, but others certainly did!
All but one dealer said they did fantastic sales.

Henry

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I spent my share 🙁

Elaine

Nil significat nisi oscillat!

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: osierhenry@cs.com
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 15:49:21 -0400
Subject: Re: [runacc] CC28 report – Dealers

In a message dated 6/10/2010 8:40:19 PM Central Daylight Time,
casamai@sbcglobal.net writes:

> Some people felt it was smallish and limited in scope, but given the size
> of
> the convention, it wasn’t surprising. Most of our people felt the dealers
> weren’t particularly exciting, and thus didn’t buy much. Worst of all
> there were no book dealers.

This was another “last minute scramble” affair. The person who was working
on it had to bail out because of the medical conditions that her infant
daughter has. Another staffer jumped into the saddle and did the best she could
with limited time. Many dealers never replied to her, even after numerous
follow up e-mails and phone calls.

In regard to not buying much, maybe you did not, but others certainly did!
All but one dealer said they did fantastic sales.

Henry

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In a message dated 6/10/2010 9:00:53 PM Central Daylight Time,
casamai@sbcglobal.net writes:

> The con chair asked for opinions on photographer for the convention

First of all, I have a name, Mr. Archive Man In St. Louis.

– an > opinion was given that the one they chose was on the expensive

> side, and the
> idea that the CD photo Folio of the entire convention being only
> web-quality
> rubbed many the wrong way. We opted to just pool all our photos together
> from several cameras and distribute a set to all the SLCG photographers.
> Beyond that, while he didn’t often actively seek out people in the halls,
> he
> was fairly diligent and meticulous about photographing all the competition
> costumes and fashion shows.
>

Robin Netherton’s partner Don McClane was approached early about being the
photographer, but the convention would have had to paid for such things as
backdrops, lighting, photo printer, etc. And, going into the convention, I
was watching the nickels hard. Real hard. Richard Man came with all that
stuff. I worked on his prices to get them down. Which he did lower. I set Don
loose on the hallways, not just for hall costumes, but those odd juxtapositions
of costumes that occur. So, the photos were split between two people.

Henry

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Don McClane is Robin’s friend not partner.
Long time friends & they frequently travel & room together at cons. He helps
handle her slide shows for her talks sometimes too.

Nora

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From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
osierhenry@cs.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:59 PM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [runacc] CC28 report – Official Photography

In a message dated 6/10/2010 9:00:53 PM Central Daylight Time,
casamai@sbcglobal.net writes:

> The con chair asked for opinions on photographer for the convention

First of all, I have a name, Mr. Archive Man In St. Louis.

– an > opinion was given that the one they chose was on the expensive

> side, and the
> idea that the CD photo Folio of the entire convention being only
> web-quality
> rubbed many the wrong way. We opted to just pool all our photos together
> from several cameras and distribute a set to all the SLCG photographers.
> Beyond that, while he didn’t often actively seek out people in the halls,
> he
> was fairly diligent and meticulous about photographing all the competition
> costumes and fashion shows.
>

Robin Netherton’s partner Don McClane was approached early about being the
photographer, but the convention would have had to paid for such things as
backdrops, lighting, photo printer, etc. And, going into the convention, I
was watching the nickels hard. Real hard. Richard Man came with all that
stuff. I worked on his prices to get them down. Which he did lower. I set
Don
loose on the hallways, not just for hall costumes, but those odd
juxtapositions
of costumes that occur. So, the photos were split between two people.

Henry

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In a message dated 7/7/2010 7:59:16 PM Central Daylight Time,
casamai@sbcglobal.net writes:

> on McClane is Robin’s friend not partner.
> Long time friends &they frequently travel &room together at cons. He helps
> handle her slide shows for her talks sometimes too.
>
> Nora

Oh. Thanks. I did not exactly know their relationship.

Henry

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I see this at all of the professional conferences that we send people to at work, and we often sponsor something. Has anyone considered or tried to have sponsorships at CC?

For example, sponsor the Friday Night Social for $1000 and get a big ad in the program book and your logo plastered all over the social.

Michael

A very long time ago, back when dinosaurs walked the earth and CC was
still in single digits, Janet Wilson Anderson (I think I’m remembering
this right) got sponsorships from Simplicity and/or Bernina, and they
had a display at the con, offered prizes during the masquerades and more.

I no longer recall the details, and all the paperwork now resides with
Karen. My vague recollection is that this was CC3, but that’s really too
long ago to be sure now.

I arranged for Clotilde to “sponsor” us for CCXV, and we got a huge box
of seam gauges to distribute to our members in return. (Had enough for
every packet and 100 left over, IIRC.)

Some of these bids are more successful than others…

Cheers,

Betsy

On 7/13/2010 11:40 PM, Michael wrote:
>
> I see this at all of the professional conferences that we send people to
> at work, and we often sponsor something. Has anyone considered or tried
> to have sponsorships at CC?
>
> For example, sponsor the Friday Night Social for $1000 and get a big ad
> in the program book and your logo plastered all over the social.
>
> Michael

—
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http://www.hawkeswood.com/

As late as CC22, I contacted Simplicity on the off chance that we might get contact information fo Martha McCann or Andrea Schewe. They offered us Andrea as a guest and paid all her expenses. Not actually a sponsorship, but at least something. CC27(?) had prizes from Simplicity and Andrea as a guest. Doesn’t hurt to ask.

Has anyone ever contacted Butterick? They’ve been getting fairly heavily into costume patterns and might be interested in raising their profile in the costuming community.

trudy

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: aramintamd@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 08:29:45 -0400
Subject: Re: [runacc] Sponsorships

A very long time ago, back when dinosaurs walked the earth and CC was
still in single digits, Janet Wilson Anderson (I think I’m remembering
this right) got sponsorships from Simplicity and/or Bernina, and they
had a display at the con, offered prizes during the masquerades and more.

I no longer recall the details, and all the paperwork now resides with
Karen. My vague recollection is that this was CC3, but that’s really too
long ago to be sure now.

I arranged for Clotilde to “sponsor” us for CCXV, and we got a huge box
of seam gauges to distribute to our members in return. (Had enough for
every packet and 100 left over, IIRC.)

Some of these bids are more successful than others…

Cheers,

Betsy

On 7/13/2010 11:40 PM, Michael wrote:
>
> I see this at all of the professional conferences that we send people to
> at work, and we often sponsor something. Has anyone considered or tried
> to have sponsorships at CC?
>
> For example, sponsor the Friday Night Social for $1000 and get a big ad
> in the program book and your logo plastered all over the social.
>
> Michael

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http://www.hawkeswood.com/

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Usually, upcoming CCs and CC bids sponsor something in the cin suite. This year 29 sponsored sunday Breakfast and 30 sponsored the Saturday night party. There is no reason that I know of why a future CC couldn’t sponsor something else. I was, in fact, about to ask you what you wanted to sponsor at CC30. As the next CC after 30, you get first choice.

Elaine

Elaine Nil significat nisi oscillat!

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: bruno@soulmasque.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 03:40:43 +0000
Subject: [runacc] Sponsorships

I see this at all of the professional conferences that we send people to at work, and we often sponsor something. Has anyone considered or tried to have sponsorships at CC?

For example, sponsor the Friday Night Social for $1000 and get a big ad in the program book and your logo plastered all over the social.

Michael

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I think that was at 6, because several of us bought Berninas at that con and shlepped them home to NJ & NY, with considerable discounts! I still love mine!

Elaine

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: aramintamd@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 08:29:45 -0400
Subject: Re: [runacc] Sponsorships

A very long time ago, back when dinosaurs walked the earth and CC was
still in single digits, Janet Wilson Anderson (I think I’m remembering
this right) got sponsorships from Simplicity and/or Bernina, and they
had a display at the con, offered prizes during the masquerades and more.

I no longer recall the details, and all the paperwork now resides with
Karen. My vague recollection is that this was CC3, but that’s really too
long ago to be sure now.

I arranged for Clotilde to “sponsor” us for CCXV, and we got a huge box
of seam gauges to distribute to our members in return. (Had enough for
every packet and 100 left over, IIRC.)

Some of these bids are more successful than others…

Cheers,

Betsy

On 7/13/2010 11:40 PM, Michael wrote:
>
> I see this at all of the professional conferences that we send people to
> at work, and we often sponsor something. Has anyone considered or tried
> to have sponsorships at CC?
>
> For example, sponsor the Friday Night Social for $1000 and get a big ad
> in the program book and your logo plastered all over the social.
>
> Michael

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Betsy has the right con. We were able to get Simplicity as a sponsor
for CC-27 too (Best adaptation of a Simplicity pattern in the contests),
but given the size of Costume Cons, it is difficult to get major
corporations to spend money on us. Your best approach might be with
local merchants. I believe that CC-25 did that.

Marty

Betsy Delaney wrote:

>
>
> A very long time ago, back when dinosaurs walked the earth and CC was
> still in single digits, Janet Wilson Anderson (I think I’m remembering
> this right) got sponsorships from Simplicity and/or Bernina, and they
> had a display at the con, offered prizes during the masquerades and more.
>
> I no longer recall the details, and all the paperwork now resides with
> Karen. My vague recollection is that this was CC3, but that’s really too
> long ago to be sure now.
>
> I arranged for Clotilde to “sponsor” us for CCXV, and we got a huge box
> of seam gauges to distribute to our members in return. (Had enough for
> every packet and 100 left over, IIRC.)
>
> Some of these bids are more successful than others…
>
> Cheers,
>
> Betsy
>
> On 7/13/2010 11:40 PM, Michael wrote:
> >
> > I see this at all of the professional conferences that we send people to
> > at work, and we often sponsor something. Has anyone considered or tried
> > to have sponsorships at CC?
> >
> > For example, sponsor the Friday Night Social for $1000 and get a big ad
> > in the program book and your logo plastered all over the social.
> >
> > Michael
>
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True. Simplicity was 3, but Bernina was 6. It never hurts to ask!

Elaine

Nil significat nisi oscillat!

Betsy has the right con. We were able to get Simplicity as a sponsor
for CC-27 too (Best adaptation of a Simplicity pattern in the contests),
but given the size of Costume Cons, it is difficult to get major
corporations to spend money on us. Your best approach might be with
local merchants. I believe that CC-25 did that.

Marty

Betsy Delaney wrote:

>
>
> A very long time ago, back when dinosaurs walked the earth and CC was
> still in single digits, Janet Wilson Anderson (I think I’m remembering
> this right) got sponsorships from Simplicity and/or Bernina, and they
> had a display at the con, offered prizes during the masquerades and more.
>
> I no longer recall the details, and all the paperwork now resides with
> Karen. My vague recollection is that this was CC3, but that’s really too
> long ago to be sure now.
>
> I arranged for Clotilde to “sponsor” us for CCXV, and we got a huge box
> of seam gauges to distribute to our members in return. (Had enough for
> every packet and 100 left over, IIRC.)
>
> Some of these bids are more successful than others…
>
> Cheers,
>
> Betsy
>
> On 7/13/2010 11:40 PM, Michael wrote:
> >
> > I see this at all of the professional conferences that we send people to
> > at work, and we often sponsor something. Has anyone considered or tried
> > to have sponsorships at CC?
> >
> > For example, sponsor the Friday Night Social for $1000 and get a big ad
> > in the program book and your logo plastered all over the social.
> >
> > Michael
>
> —
> —
> Betsy Marks Delaney
>
> http://www.hawkeswood.com/
>
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We managed to arrange discounts with some local merchants (most
notably Thai/Exotic Silks).

We didn’t think of trying for more direct sponsorship until too late in
the game. If I were starting over, I’d have had my development chair on
board from the very beginning (3 years out). The lead time is the
killer; you need to get on the companies charitable radar early enough
in their business cycle that they can do something for you.

Kevin

Someone on our local CONduit convention said something similar — that businesses tend to allocate such promotional monies about once a year (based on their business cycle).

The problem I noticed with Costume-Con, is that nationally Costume-Con is a rather a small number of individuals, but locally, it’s a rather a small number of locals. Perhaps there may be a way of marketing sponsor promotional value, by targeting the total ICG, rather than just that one annual Costume-Con event(?) — or targeting the next 5 costume cons, (which may be an equivalent thing).

As already mentioned, I think we (CC-23 Utah) also got a pattern maker to send a guest, and of course, don’t wait until the last minute…

Charles

—– Original Message —–
From: Kevin Roche, CC26 Convention Chair
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [runacc] Sponsorships

We managed to arrange discounts with some local merchants (most
notably Thai/Exotic Silks).

We didn’t think of trying for more direct sponsorship until too late in
the game. If I were starting over, I’d have had my development chair on
board from the very beginning (3 years out). The lead time is the
killer; you need to get on the companies charitable radar early enough
in their business cycle that they can do something for you.

Kevin

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Important point: Costume-Con does NOT equal the ICG. It is important
to not conflate the two when speaking to potential sponsors, for
numerous business and legal reasons.

Kevin

On 7/14/2010 1:18 PM, Charles Galway wrote:
>
>
> Someone on our local CONduit convention said something similar — that
> businesses tend to allocate such promotional monies about once a year
> (based on their business cycle).
>
> The problem I noticed with Costume-Con, is that nationally Costume-Con
> is a rather a small number of individuals, but locally, it’s a rather
> a small number of locals. Perhaps there may be a way of marketing
> sponsor promotional value, by targeting the total ICG, rather than
> just that one annual Costume-Con event(?) — or targeting the next 5
> costume cons, (which may be an equivalent thing).
>
> As already mentioned, I think we (CC-23 Utah) also got a pattern maker
> to send a guest, and of course, don’t wait until the last minute…
>
> Charles
>
>
>

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For the Exhibits, we tried to get local ethnic costumes, but the ethnic
dance groups were overly protective of their costumes.

The Doll Contest was run by Ann Catelli, who has done it numerous times.

Henry

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It was definitely CC-3. That was Byron’s and my first CC. The person from Simplicity did a wonderful demo on how to fine-tune the fit of commercial patterns. That was invaluable when, only a couple of weeks after the con, our daughter announced that all of the prom gowns available that year were disgusting (they were — all frilly and ruffly and in pastels and poorly-applied sequins — really sucky), and that I was to create something nice for her to wear in black or dark green.

The demo made all the difference. She attended her senior prom in a floor length skin-tight strapless black gown with a 6 foot hem, held up with nothing except boning and static cling (thoigh I wish I had known then about good boning, as opposed to the crappy plastic stuff). Marty, you may recall that one; I have a photo somewhere of you vamping with her at one of the Lastcons that were held at the Desmond here in Albany (the same place CC-7 was held).

What made the demo really helpful was that the person from Simplicity explained WHY one should do things a certain way for the best effect. That’s so much more effective than someone who just says “do it this way because I say so.”

Tina

— In runacc@yahoogroups.com, Betsy Delaney <aramintamd@…> wrote:
>
> A very long time ago, back when dinosaurs walked the earth and CC was
> still in single digits, Janet Wilson Anderson (I think I’m remembering
> this right) got sponsorships from Simplicity and/or Bernina, and they
> had a display at the con, offered prizes during the masquerades and more.
>
> I no longer recall the details, and all the paperwork now resides with
> Karen. My vague recollection is that this was CC3, but that’s really too
> long ago to be sure now.
>
> I arranged for Clotilde to “sponsor” us for CCXV, and we got a huge box
> of seam gauges to distribute to our members in return. (Had enough for
> every packet and 100 left over, IIRC.)
>
> Some of these bids are more successful than others…
>
> Cheers,
>
> Betsy

Elaine, not sure right now.

Michael

Quoting Elaine Mami <ecmami@hotmail.com>:

>
> Usually, upcoming CCs and CC bids sponsor something in the cin
> suite. This year 29 sponsored sunday Breakfast and 30 sponsored the
> Saturday night party. There is no reason that I know of why a
> future CC couldn’t sponsor something else. I was, in fact, about to
> ask you what you wanted to sponsor at CC30. As the next CC after
> 30, you get first choice.
>
> Elaine

Thanks for all the input. I didn’t know how things had been done.
Not afraid of doing something new. Hoping to have some new and
interesting things. Just don’t want to do something verboten.

Michael

Quoting Martin Gear <MartinGear@comcast.net>:

> Betsy has the right con. We were able to get Simplicity as a sponsor
> for CC-27 too (Best adaptation of a Simplicity pattern in the contests),
> but given the size of Costume Cons, it is difficult to get major
> corporations to spend money on us. Your best approach might be with
> local merchants. I believe that CC-25 did that.
>
> Marty
>
> Betsy Delaney wrote:
>>
>>
>> A very long time ago, back when dinosaurs walked the earth and CC was
>> still in single digits, Janet Wilson Anderson (I think I’m remembering
>> this right) got sponsorships from Simplicity and/or Bernina, and they
>> had a display at the con, offered prizes during the masquerades and more.
>>
>> I no longer recall the details, and all the paperwork now resides with
>> Karen. My vague recollection is that this was CC3, but that’s really too
>> long ago to be sure now.
>>
>> I arranged for Clotilde to “sponsor” us for CCXV, and we got a huge box
>> of seam gauges to distribute to our members in return. (Had enough for
>> every packet and 100 left over, IIRC.)
>>
>> Some of these bids are more successful than others…
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Betsy
>>
>> On 7/13/2010 11:40 PM, Michael wrote:
>> >
>> > I see this at all of the professional conferences that we send people to
>> > at work, and we often sponsor something. Has anyone considered or tried
>> > to have sponsorships at CC?
>> >
>> > For example, sponsor the Friday Night Social for $1000 and get a big ad
>> > in the program book and your logo plastered all over the social.
>> >
>> > Michael
>>
>> —
>> —
>> Betsy Marks Delaney
>>
>> http://www.hawkeswood.com/
>>
>>
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On 7/14/2010 11:10 AM, Kevin Roche, CC26 Convention Chair wrote:

> The lead time is the
> killer; you need to get on the companies charitable radar early enough
> in their business cycle that they can do something for you.

To expand on this:

I did most of the solicitation for our World Fantasy consuite last year.
It was in October. Many of the food & bev producers we contacted
explained that they have a budget line item for donations, and when that
figure is reached, they stop donating. That meant when I got last-minute
donor suggestions in September, the folks I talked to had already run
out their donations budget (or had frozen it because of the crappy
economy and clearly defined bad sales figures for the previous quarters).

In some cases this may be complicated by companies running on a
non-calendar fiscal year. You need to start talking with folks at least
18 months out, so you know when to follow up with them to get a commitment.

Here’s the schtick…

Put together a nice letter on the organization’s letterhead. Explain
what the organization is and what its purpose is. Include the
information that your organization is a 501(c)3 tax-exempt corporation
and your TIN (Tax ID number) if that’s the case. It may still be
possible to get donations if you’re not recognized as tax-exempt by the
feds but have a qualifying tax-exempt purpose.

When soliciting local donors, emphasize that you want to showcase what
your region has to offer, but you need their help.

When soliciting donors with a national reach, emphasize the value of
your membership to them.

Where appropriate (namely stuff you’re going to have to buy anyway if
it’s not donated), don’t ignore the value of discounts. Sometimes you’ll
get more value in discounted pricing on a large volume than a small
donation.

Build personal relationships with prospective donors and their agents.
This is invaluable. If you’re sincerely enthusiastic about a vendor and
their product, they’ll trust you to showcase their donations well.

For CC26 we really didn’t do this. I’m not even going to say “well.” We
got a few good discounts from some established connections. For WFC2009
we built new connections. We got some donations and a lot of
direct/wholesale pricing that really stretched our consuite budget.

andy

Thanks, Andy!!!!

Betsy

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http://www.hawkeswood.com/

My co-chair for CC31 looked at the website and the first thing she
asked was, “where are the pictures of costumes?” She doesn’t know CC,
but she is a veteran con chair. My response was that I don’t think
I’ve ever seen costume pictures on a CC website.

That got me to thinking . . . we want new blood, but if they’ve never
been, there’s nothing to really show them why. We can send them to
the archives, or the connections website, but those are mostly just
masquerade photos.

So, I’m thinking of putting together group of pages for “What is CC?”
with pictures that answer the following statements.

CC is learning – pictures of programming
CC is socializing
CC is friendly competition
CC is costumes

I’m really going to have to search my old CC photos. I don’t take
nearly as many as I used to.

Michael