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Group: runacc Message: 2001 From: Dora Buck Date: 4/3/2010
Subject: Re: Info for future CCs
Group: runacc Message: 2002 From: Elaine Mami Date: 4/3/2010
Subject: Re: Info for future CCs
Group: runacc Message: 2003 From: Margie Date: 4/4/2010
Subject: Re: Info for future CCs
Group: runacc Message: 2004 From: Kevin Roche, Costume-Con 26 Chair Date: 4/4/2010
Subject: Re: Info for future CCs
Group: runacc Message: 2005 From: Dora Buck Date: 4/5/2010
Subject: Re: Info for future CCs
Group: runacc Message: 2006 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 4/5/2010
Subject: Re: Info for future CCs
Group: runacc Message: 2007 From: Margie Date: 4/5/2010
Subject: Financial reports
Group: runacc Message: 2008 From: Kevin Roche, CC26 Convention Chair Date: 4/5/2010
Subject: Re: Financial reports
Group: runacc Message: 2009 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 4/6/2010
Subject: Re: Financial reports
Group: runacc Message: 2010 From: Martin Gear Date: 4/13/2010
Subject: Re: [CostumeCon] side trips?
Group: runacc Message: 2011 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 4/13/2010
Subject: Re: [CostumeCon] side trips?
Group: runacc Message: 2012 From: Martin Gear Date: 4/13/2010
Subject: Re: [CostumeCon] side trips?
Group: runacc Message: 2013 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 4/19/2010
Subject: CC28 Stage
Group: runacc Message: 2014 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 5/16/2010
Subject: CC28 report in progress
Group: runacc Message: 2015 From: Bruno Date: 5/21/2010
Subject: CC31 Your Weekly Facebook Page Update
Group: runacc Message: 2016 From: Margie Date: 6/3/2010
Subject: Re: Financial reports
Group: runacc Message: 2017 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/3/2010
Subject: Re: Financial reports
Group: runacc Message: 2018 From: Margie Date: 6/4/2010
Subject: Re: Financial reports
Group: runacc Message: 2019 From: Elaine Mami Date: 6/4/2010
Subject: Re: Financial reports
Group: runacc Message: 2020 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/5/2010
Subject: CC28 Report – before the con
Group: runacc Message: 2021 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 6/5/2010
Subject: Re: Financial reports
Group: runacc Message: 2022 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/9/2010
Subject: CC28 report – The Hotel
Group: runacc Message: 2023 From: Byron Connell Date: 6/9/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – The Hotel
Group: runacc Message: 2024 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/9/2010
Subject: CC28 report – Con Suite
Group: runacc Message: 2025 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/10/2010
Subject: CC28 report – Programming
Group: runacc Message: 2026 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/10/2010
Subject: CC28 report – Dealers
Group: runacc Message: 2027 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/10/2010
Subject: CC28 report – Official Photography
Group: runacc Message: 2028 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/11/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – Official Photography – correction
Group: runacc Message: 2029 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/11/2010
Subject: CC28 report – Exhibits
Group: runacc Message: 2030 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/11/2010
Subject: CC28 report – Friday events
Group: runacc Message: 2031 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/17/2010
Subject: CC28 report – SF & F masquerade
Group: runacc Message: 2032 From: Kevin Roche, CC26 Convention Chair Date: 6/17/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – SF & F masquerade
Group: runacc Message: 2033 From: Aurora Celeste Date: 6/17/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – SF & F masquerade
Group: runacc Message: 2034 From: Kevin Roche, CC26 Convention Chair Date: 6/17/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – SF & F masquerade
Group: runacc Message: 2035 From: Byron Connell Date: 6/17/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – SF & F masquerade
Group: runacc Message: 2036 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 6/17/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – SF & F masquerade
Group: runacc Message: 2037 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 6/17/2010
Subject: CC28 reviews
Group: runacc Message: 2038 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/18/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – SF & F masquerade awards
Group: runacc Message: 2039 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/18/2010
Subject: CC28 report – LAA — FOR THIS LIST ONLY
Group: runacc Message: 2040 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 6/18/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – LAA — FOR THIS LIST ONLY
Group: runacc Message: 2041 From: Kevin Roche, CC26 Convention Chair Date: 6/18/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – LAA — FOR THIS LIST ONLY
Group: runacc Message: 2042 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 6/18/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – LAA — FOR THIS LIST ONLY
Group: runacc Message: 2043 From: Kevin Roche, CC26 Convention Chair Date: 6/18/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – LAA — FOR THIS LIST ONLY
Group: runacc Message: 2044 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 6/18/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – LAA — FOR THIS LIST ONLY
Group: runacc Message: 2045 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/18/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – LAA — FOR THIS LIST ONLY
Group: runacc Message: 2046 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 6/18/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – LAA — FOR THIS LIST ONLY
Group: runacc Message: 2047 From: Martin Gear Date: 6/18/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – LAA — FOR THIS LIST ONLY
Group: runacc Message: 2048 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/18/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – LAA — FOR THIS LIST ONLY
Group: runacc Message: 2049 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/18/2010
Subject: CC28 report – FFS
Group: runacc Message: 2050 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/18/2010
Subject: CC28 report – Outside the con

 


 

Group: runacc Message: 2001 From: Dora Buck Date: 4/3/2010
Subject: Re: Info for future CCs
I have the member list from cc26 so it was passed on.

Dora

________________________________
From: Nora & Bruce Mai <casamai@sbcglobal.net>
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 6:31:25 PM
Subject: [runacc] Info for future CCs

At CC25 we collected a list of attendees who wanted to receive information
on Future CCs which we then passed on to the seated committees at the time
(CC26, CC27 & CC28).
I know I have a copy of it stored on a disk with other CC25 info but what
did those committees do with it?
Have they added any to it? Will it get forwarded to CC29, CC30, etc.?

Nora

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Group: runacc Message: 2002 From: Elaine Mami Date: 4/3/2010
Subject: Re: Info for future CCs
Could you pass it along to us, please? Or just bring it to CC28.

Thanks,

Elaine

Nil significat nisi oscillat!

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: dfaybuck@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 17:55:10 -0700
Subject: Re: [runacc] Info for future CCs

I have the member list from cc26 so it was passed on.

Dora

________________________________
From: Nora & Bruce Mai <casamai@sbcglobal.net>
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 6:31:25 PM
Subject: [runacc] Info for future CCs

At CC25 we collected a list of attendees who wanted to receive information
on Future CCs which we then passed on to the seated committees at the time
(CC26, CC27 & CC28).
I know I have a copy of it stored on a disk with other CC25 info but what
did those committees do with it?
Have they added any to it? Will it get forwarded to CC29, CC30, etc.?

Nora

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Group: runacc Message: 2003 From: Margie Date: 4/4/2010
Subject: Re: Info for future CCs

“Bring it along” implies a non-digital version… I’d *way* prefer something electronic (for CC30). If you could send it to Elaine and I, I can put it to use! 🙂

Thanks!

— In runacc@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Mami <ecmami@…> wrote:
>
>
> Could you pass it along to us, please? Or just bring it to CC28.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Elaine
>
> Nil significat nisi oscillat!
>
>
>
>
>
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> From: dfaybuck@…
> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 17:55:10 -0700
> Subject: Re: [runacc] Info for future CCs
>
>
>
>
>
> I have the member list from cc26 so it was passed on.
>
> Dora
>
> ________________________________
> From: Nora & Bruce Mai <casamai@…>
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 6:31:25 PM
> Subject: [runacc] Info for future CCs
>
>
> At CC25 we collected a list of attendees who wanted to receive information
> on Future CCs which we then passed on to the seated committees at the time
> (CC26, CC27 & CC28).
> I know I have a copy of it stored on a disk with other CC25 info but what
> did those committees do with it?
> Have they added any to it? Will it get forwarded to CC29, CC30, etc.?
>
> Nora
>
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Group: runacc Message: 2004 From: Kevin Roche, Costume-Con 26 Chair Date: 4/4/2010
Subject: Re: Info for future CCs

I’ve emailed my CC26 pass-along names list to Elaine.

Kevin

Margie wrote:

>
>
> “Bring it along” implies a non-digital version… I’d *way* prefer
> something electronic (for CC30). If you could send it to Elaine and I,
> I can put it to use! 🙂
>
> Thanks!
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 2005 From: Dora Buck Date: 4/5/2010
Subject: Re: Info for future CCs

Thanks Kevin

________________________________
From: “Kevin Roche, Costume-Con 26 Chair” <chair@cc26.org>
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, April 4, 2010 1:38:38 PM
Subject: Re: [runacc] Re: Info for future CCs

I’ve emailed my CC26 pass-along names list to Elaine.

Kevin

Margie wrote:

>
>
> “Bring it along” implies a non-digital version… I’d *way* prefer
> something electronic (for CC30). If you could send it to Elaine and I,
> I can put it to use! 🙂
>
> Thanks!
>

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Group: runacc Message: 2006 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 4/5/2010
Subject: Re: Info for future CCs

Good! Thanks Kevin!
Cause while I’d be willing to look for the orginal the idea was to add to the list at each CC & build a list for the future. I’m sure Kevin’s list from CC26 has lots of additions to our starter list.

Nora

— On Sun, 4/4/10, Kevin Roche, Costume-Con 26 Chair <chair@cc26.org> wrote:

From: Kevin Roche, Costume-Con 26 Chair <chair@cc26.org>
Subject: Re: [runacc] Re: Info for future CCs
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 12:38 PM

I’ve emailed my CC26 pass-along names list to Elaine.

Kevin

Margie wrote:
>
>
> “Bring it along” implies a non-digital version… I’d *way* prefer
> something electronic (for CC30). If you could send it to Elaine and I,
> I can put it to use! 🙂
>
> Thanks!
>

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Group: runacc Message: 2007 From: Margie Date: 4/5/2010
Subject: Financial reports
We’ve received financial info from CC25, and a working budget from CC29… would any other previous CC’s have financial reports they could share? Thanks!

 

Group: runacc Message: 2008 From: Kevin Roche, CC26 Convention Chair Date: 4/5/2010
Subject: Re: Financial reports

Well, (red-faced admission) we’re still processing our staff refunds due
to our CFO also being the treasurer for at least 3 other conventions +
her dealing with a major case of life (family health issues) over the
last 2 years.

I’ll see if I can get the basic results for you; we came out healthily
in the black (which is why we’re able to do those refunds, and why we’ve
had pass-along funds for recent CCs.).

Kevin

Margie wrote:

>
>
> We’ve received financial info from CC25, and a working budget from
> CC29… would any other previous CC’s have financial reports they
> could share? Thanks!
>
>
> Reply to <mailto:marg1066@gmail.com?subject=Financial%20reports>

 

Group: runacc Message: 2009 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 4/6/2010
Subject: Re: Financial reports

Refunds & pass-alongs are always nice. We were lucky enough to be able to do
both for CC16 & CC25.

Nora

—–Original Message—–
From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Kevin Roche, CC26 Convention Chair
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 1:47 PM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [runacc] Financial reports

Well, (red-faced admission) we’re still processing our staff refunds due
to our CFO also being the treasurer for at least 3 other conventions +
her dealing with a major case of life (family health issues) over the
last 2 years.

I’ll see if I can get the basic results for you; we came out healthily
in the black (which is why we’re able to do those refunds, and why we’ve
had pass-along funds for recent CCs.).

Kevin

Margie wrote:

>
>
> We’ve received financial info from CC25, and a working budget from
> CC29… would any other previous CC’s have financial reports they
> could share? Thanks!
>
>
> Reply to <mailto:marg1066@gmail.com?subject=Financial%20reports>

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Group: runacc Message: 2010 From: Martin Gear Date: 4/13/2010
Subject: Re: [CostumeCon] side trips?

OK, I’m seeing all sorts of information about side trips, things to do
while in Milwaukee, what’s outside the hotel etc. but what I’m not
seeing is any of the information about what Costume Cons are supposed to
be all about such as: the size and layout of the stage; the type and
level of tech that will be provided; the size and layout of the green
room; timing for the various events including tech rehearsals; schedule
of panels/classes etc. Is there going to be an actual Costume Con or is
this just a promo for neat things to do in Milwaukee?

Marty

CC2010Milw@cs.com wrote:

>
>
> In a message dated 4/12/2010 5:22:44 PM Central Daylight Time,
> jeanine@woollycat.net writes:
>> Is a trip being planned to go to American Science Surplus?
>>
>>
>
> Not at this point, but it is maybe 15 minutes from the hotel and an
> easy drive. It would be a fun place to go to Friday morning while the
> ICG meetings are going on.
> Henry W. Osier
> Chairman, Costume-Con 28
> May 7 to May 10, 2010 in Milwaukee, Wisconsin
> www.CC28.org
> Look for our fan page on Facebook!
> And on Twitter: CostumeCon28
> Got questions?
> Join the CostumeCon Yahoo group!
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Group: runacc Message: 2011 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 4/13/2010
Subject: Re: [CostumeCon] side trips?
Layout and Schedule should be posted within the next couple of days. A
preliminary schedule is up now on the website.

Henry Osier
Chairman, CC28

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Group: runacc Message: 2012 From: Martin Gear Date: 4/13/2010
Subject: Re: [CostumeCon] side trips?

To anyone considering running a future Costume Con –

This is the kind of information that should be available and published
on the final day of the previous Costume Con, not less than a month
before the convention! If you have done your job properly, you should
know what size stage you are going to be able to provide, and have at
least a rough idea of what kind of tech you will have available, and the
days and times for the mandatory events.

NolaCon taught me that if I want to see a particular city, I should plan
a vacation to that city, not choose a convention on the basis of what
there is to do in that city. If the convention is run properly, I
probably won’t have any time during the convention to see the city’s
attractions, and if the con isn’t run properly then why did I waste my
money on a membership?

Yes, I feel pretty strongly about this! I have chaired or been a major
committee member of at least 6 Costume Cons and an equal number of
WorldCons.

Marty

osierhenry@cs.com wrote:

>
>
> Layout and Schedule should be posted within the next couple of days. A
> preliminary schedule is up now on the website.
>
> Henry Osier
> Chairman, CC28
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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Group: runacc Message: 2013 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 4/19/2010
Subject: CC28 Stage
Henry has asked me to announce the stage dimensions for all CC28 events.

The stage will be 12 feet deep by 24 feet wide. Entry and/or exit
will be from the two sides. Unfortunately, there will not be an area
on the stage for staging entries. There will be a staging area at the
base of the stairs.

If you have any questions, please direct them to Henry so he can
check them out.

Pierre

“Those Who Fail to Learn History
Are Doomed to Repeat It;
Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly –
Why They Are Simply Doomed.”

Achemdro’hm
“The Illusion of Historical Fact”
— C. Y. 4971

Andromeda

 

Group: runacc Message: 2014 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 5/16/2010
Subject: CC28 report in progress
First draft is done. It will be posted to the SLCG Yahoo group for
additional comments before being packaged up and posted here, warts and all.
Probably be about a week or so.

Bruce

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Group: runacc Message: 2015 From: Bruno Date: 5/21/2010
Subject: CC31 Your Weekly Facebook Page Update
CC31 Facebook activity since 5/13/10.

Here is this week’s summary for the Facebook Page: Costume-Con 31 —
Denver, CO

+57 Fans this week (57 total Fans)
10 Wall Posts, Comments, and Likes this week (0 last week)
168 visits to your page this week(2 visits last week)

Michael

 

Group: runacc Message: 2016 From: Margie Date: 6/3/2010
Subject: Re: Financial reports

Hi again, it’s been a couple of months, and CC28 has come and gone, so I thought I would inquire again to see if any CC committee has financial reports they could share — it would help us a great deal in setting up our budget!

Thanks!

— In runacc@yahoogroups.com, “Margie” <marg1066@…> wrote:
>
> We’ve received financial info from CC25, and a working budget from CC29… would any other previous CC’s have financial reports they could share? Thanks!
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 2017 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/3/2010
Subject: Re: Financial reports

Looked in all the basic places & can’t find the master disk of info for
CC25. I’m sure it will turn up & when it does I’ll be happy to send it
along.
But since you have info from more recent CCs, you should be fine.

Nora

—–Original Message—–
From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Margie
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 10:59 AM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [runacc] Re: Financial reports

Hi again, it’s been a couple of months, and CC28 has come and gone, so I
thought I would inquire again to see if any CC committee has financial
reports they could share — it would help us a great deal in setting up our
budget!

Thanks!

— In runacc@yahoogroups.com, “Margie” <marg1066@…> wrote:
>
> We’ve received financial info from CC25, and a working budget from CC29…
would any other previous CC’s have financial reports they could share?
Thanks!
>

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Group: runacc Message: 2018 From: Margie Date: 6/4/2010
Subject: Re: Financial reports

I’m definitely still looking for info. To my knowledge, all I have is your (CC25’s) mostly-complete report, and the projected budget for CC29 (which is not the same thing as a finished convention’s financial report). Perhaps Elaine has been sent something else? I will check.

Henry’s offered info from 28, and when 26 finishes up, I think Kevin will send that. I’ll ask Karen about 27, to see if she or anyone can provide that. Our treasurer is very interested in having as much info as possible to work from.

And I’m sure we’ll have good stuff compiled to pass along to CC31 and on! 🙂

— In runacc@yahoogroups.com, “Nora & Bruce Mai” <casamai@…> wrote:
>
> Looked in all the basic places & can’t find the master disk of info for
> CC25. I’m sure it will turn up & when it does I’ll be happy to send it
> along.
> But since you have info from more recent CCs, you should be fine.
>
> Nora
>
> —–Original Message—–
> From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Margie
> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 10:59 AM
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [runacc] Re: Financial reports
>
> Hi again, it’s been a couple of months, and CC28 has come and gone, so I
> thought I would inquire again to see if any CC committee has financial
> reports they could share — it would help us a great deal in setting up our
> budget!
>
> Thanks!
>
> — In runacc@yahoogroups.com, “Margie” <marg1066@> wrote:
> >
> > We’ve received financial info from CC25, and a working budget from CC29…
> would any other previous CC’s have financial reports they could share?
> Thanks!
> >
>
>
>
>
> ————————————
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/Yahoo! Groups
> Links
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 2019 From: Elaine Mami Date: 6/4/2010
Subject: Re: Financial reports

Marg,

I have not received anything else.

Ask Ricky or Marty about CC27. That was not Karen’s position, and she doesn’t have that paperwork.

Elaine

Nil significat nisi oscillat!

I’m definitely still looking for info. To my knowledge, all I have is your (CC25’s) mostly-complete report, and the projected budget for CC29 (which is not the same thing as a finished convention’s financial report). Perhaps Elaine has been sent something else? I will check.

Henry’s offered info from 28, and when 26 finishes up, I think Kevin will send that. I’ll ask Karen about 27, to see if she or anyone can provide that. Our treasurer is very interested in having as much info as possible to work from.

And I’m sure we’ll have good stuff compiled to pass along to CC31 and on! 🙂

— In runacc@yahoogroups.com, “Nora & Bruce Mai” <casamai@…> wrote:
>
> Looked in all the basic places & can’t find the master disk of info for
> CC25. I’m sure it will turn up & when it does I’ll be happy to send it
> along.
> But since you have info from more recent CCs, you should be fine.
>
> Nora
>
> —–Original Message—–
> From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Margie
> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 10:59 AM
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [runacc] Re: Financial reports
>
> Hi again, it’s been a couple of months, and CC28 has come and gone, so I
> thought I would inquire again to see if any CC committee has financial
> reports they could share — it would help us a great deal in setting up our
> budget!
>
> Thanks!
>
> — In runacc@yahoogroups.com, “Margie” <marg1066@> wrote:
> >
> > We’ve received financial info from CC25, and a working budget from CC29…
> would any other previous CC’s have financial reports they could share?
> Thanks!
> >
>
>
>
>
> ————————————
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/Yahoo! Groups
> Links
>

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Group: runacc Message: 2020 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/5/2010
Subject: CC28 Report – before the con
I meant to get this out sooner, but just didn’t get to it as soon as I
hoped. Anyway, I hope this report will be useful for following CC people.

Time once again for the annual SLCG review of Costume-Con. It’s the normal
disclaimers – the opinions are those of the attending SLUTs – your mileage
may vary. They are based on what was experienced as attendees, as well as
what happened
behind the scenes on the CC28 Staff List.

If there was one thing that was a particular problem, it was with
communication. It was poor between the concom and the attendees, concom and
staff – apparently, even concom and the hotel. Let’s start with the
Progress Report.

Only one Progress Report was ever issued. There should have been at least
one more, closer to the convention. There
should not be a complete reliance on a website to distribute information.
Some information was never even posted on the Costume-Con Yahoo group. Not
only is this a disservice to the convention attendees, it hurts the con
itself by keeping them in the dark. There were important convention
updates attendees should have known that were only posted on the CC28 Staff
list: apparently, there was an expectation that the Staff should get the
word out on their own. An offer was made to “shill” for the con on various
forums, listgroups, etc. – all the Milwaukee-area con staff had to do was
post whatever new information was known to the Staff list. This offer was
pretty much ignored.

Even direct questions on the Staff list about programming, the stage, and
the Folio were either
ignored, took too long, or the “answer” had nothing to do with the
question. Or, the answers seemed evasive. If you don’t know the
answer, at least admit it. Many people complained about that there seemed
to be more information about activities un-related to the convention than
the convention itself.

The website was updated infrequently, until the convention date drew
considerably nearer, when a new staffer took over. Some people complained
that the clever spy-themed navigation buttons were confusing. There was
never a map to the hotel posted – you had to go to the hotel website to get
directions. That should have been in a PR, along with stage info, etc. (the
latter is covered in a later part of the review).

The situation with the Fashion Folio was another huge complaint. The first
director was almost completely uncommunicative. We understand there were
Life issues, but there was no excuse for the FFF Director procrastinating as
long as they did. So much time went by without it being judged or published
that it had a direct effect on the number of entries in the Future Fashion
Show. Numerous inquiries for a status report went unanswered for months.
There were vague promises of follow up, but not much came of them. It was
only learned at the end of December that judging had not been completed.
The Director should have been replaced before this point. Instead, it
didn’t happen for another month. Had Nora not volunteered to step in to
edit and distribute it in e-form, it might not have gotten out even 2 months
before the convention.

The one positive thing that came out of this was that a good number of
convention members were willing to accept a pdf version of the Folio in
order to receive
it sooner, while waiting to get their printed copy at the convention.
However, we have no info on whether everyone actually DID get them (we have
at least one member who never did get their printed version). For the
future, it might be worth exploring by con committees to offer a
discount for an email copy first and picking up the Folio at the con. This
could potentially save a lot of money (postage) on the biggest expense
prior to the event.

Next: The Hotel

 

Group: runacc Message: 2021 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 6/5/2010
Subject: Re: Financial reports
The books for CC28 should be done by the end of this month.

Henry

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Group: runacc Message: 2022 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/9/2010
Subject: CC28 report – The Hotel
While the hotel made a nice setting for the theme of the con, the atmosphere
did not justify the costs to stay there. WeÂ’ve been proponents of
suburban/industrial park hotels ever since CC16 – the room nights cost less

and the parking is free. (The only drawback might be fewer places to eat
within walking distance, but not always). We thought the lesson was learned
for CC21. Adding to the irritation was the fact that the water park in the
hotel was not included in the room nights because that wouldÂ’ve added even
more cost. This makes two years in a row with no pool or hot tub.

On the plus side, the hotel staff was friendly and it had three restaurants.

One comment was made that the Café service was not very good, but everyone

had a positive one for the Irish pub. The elevators all worked and were

very fast.

The rooms, themselves, were designed oddly – possibly as a result of
updates. The towel racks were in the tub(?), the sink jutted out so much
that one couldnÂ’t get very close to the mirror (important for makeup,
shaving, etc.) and the beds had the ugliest headboards imaginable. Closet
space differed from room to room – some were very deep, while others were

not big enough. The dressers only had two drawers, and they were very

shallow. There were some isolated complaints about room problems – one had
a thermostat problem, and another room had a smoke detector that wouldnÂ’t
stop beeping, so the occupants had to move because the hotel staff had no
simple solution.

And what was up with the bottles of water in them, where you

would be charged $4 for drinking one?

Parking cost $12 a day. The only positive things said were at least the
covered and attached garage, allowed people to stay dry while loading and
unloading vehicle (it rained on the way home).

One last quote: “The parking garage – does everybody in Milwaukee drive like
a psycho or just the people in that garage? I think 50 mph is kind of fast
inside & they loved to use their horns.”

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Group: runacc Message: 2023 From: Byron Connell Date: 6/9/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – The Hotel

The quality of breakfast in the Cafe was mediocre at best. I did not have a positive word for the Pub.

While I can sympathize with those who missed a pool, I did not.

I’ve seen bottled water labeled at a lot more than $4 each at some places I’ve stayed. Bottles of water in hotel rooms are like mini-bars in hotel rooms; it is best to ignore their existence.

Byron

On Jun 9, 2010, at 7:16 AM, Nora & Bruce Mai wrote:

> While the hotel made a nice setting for the theme of the con, the atmosphere
> did not justify the costs to stay there. We�ve been proponents of
> suburban/industrial park hotels ever since CC16 � the room nights cost less
>
> and the parking is free. (The only drawback might be fewer places to eat
> within walking distance, but not always). We thought the lesson was learned
> for CC21. Adding to the irritation was the fact that the water park in the
> hotel was not included in the room nights because that would�ve added even
> more cost. This makes two years in a row with no pool or hot tub.
>
> On the plus side, the hotel staff was friendly and it had three restaurants.
>
> One comment was made that the Caf� service was not very good, but everyone
>
> had a positive one for the Irish pub. The elevators all worked and were
>
> very fast.
>
> The rooms, themselves, were designed oddly � possibly as a result of
> updates. The towel racks were in the tub(?), the sink jutted out so much
> that one couldn�t get very close to the mirror (important for makeup,
> shaving, etc.) and the beds had the ugliest headboards imaginable. Closet
> space differed from room to room � some were very deep, while others were
>
> not big enough. The dressers only had two drawers, and they were very
>
> shallow. There were some isolated complaints about room problems � one had
> a thermostat problem, and another room had a smoke detector that wouldn�t
> stop beeping, so the occupants had to move because the hotel staff had no
> simple solution.
>
> And what was up with the bottles of water in them, where you
>
> would be charged $4 for drinking one?
>
> Parking cost $12 a day. The only positive things said were at least the
> covered and attached garage, allowed people to stay dry while loading and
> unloading vehicle (it rained on the way home).
>
> One last quote: �The parking garage – does everybody in Milwaukee drive like
> a psycho or just the people in that garage? I think 50 mph is kind of fast
> inside & they loved to use their horns.�
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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Group: runacc Message: 2024 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/9/2010
Subject: CC28 report – Con Suite
We were glad to see the Con Suite open on Thursday night, although not all
the membership packet pieces were ready to be distributed by the time people
were arriving in the evening. The size of the suite was adequate for
handling the expected crowds. The hours for the con suite during the
weekend were reasonable, but it was understaffed. The person did a good job
of stocking supplies with what they had, but some people said there wasn’t
enough
variety.

If it hadn’t been for the future CC parties, the fare would have
been rather dull. The kringle in the mornings did make it unnecessary to go
out for breakfast, which was nice.

 

Group: runacc Message: 2025 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/10/2010
Subject: CC28 report – Programming
A call for programming occurred only a month or two before the convention.
But there didn’t seem to be much effort
put into seeking out more ideas or people with their own panels. There
were a few suggestions thrown out there, and then people were invited to
volunteer to be on them.

Several people said there were fewer panels than they would have liked, but
the ones scheduled
were fairly balanced in subject matter (i.e. historical, fantasy,
ICG info, fashion, etc.). A lack of very many workshops was observed.
The short notice may’ve contributed to that.

It could be argued that many panels benefitted from the limited tracks,
because most were very well-attended. But people, ultimately, prefer more
choices. So, it was a tradeoff. It was suggested that Monday might be a
good time to repeat a panel, but this all depends on who is staying over.

The biggest issue, though, was the decision not to have ANY programming
(other than the Archives Road Show) on Monday. The dates of the convention
included Monday, the 10th of May. That implied some official convention
activities. Yet, when you look at the Programming website page, no mention
of Monday was made. It was learned through the CC28 Staff list, but was
never
officially announced elsewhere, that the Programming Director had been
informed by the
Con Chair that no meeting space was being planned for that day – to save
expenses (the Archives show would be moved to the Con Chair’s suite – more
on that later). Except for the SLCG organizing the bowling trip, and the
Dead Dog Party, there was nothing else going on. More than one person felt
this amounted to a “bait and switch” to keep a few room nights. Another way
to put it was, they paid for a 4 day con, and got only three.

Most people appreciated the lunch and dinner breaks (even if they might
have been a tad long), but the pocket schedule was hard to follow because of
the 10 minute intervals between each panel. There are pros and cons to
these intervals: people like the “grace periods” between panels, but this
also eats up time that could be used to squeeze in some more programming.

At least one panelist complained that there wasn’t a very good record of who
needed A/V equipment. Fortunately, the son of the Registering Dept head
tried to pick up the slack. But he spent some time having to track down the
con chair and the Programming head to ask questions.

The “Con Virgins” panel was very well attended – it should be a regular
feature at all future CCs.

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Group: runacc Message: 2026 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/10/2010
Subject: CC28 report – Dealers
Some people felt it was smallish and limited in scope, but given the size of
the convention, it wasn’t surprising. Most of our people felt the dealers
weren’t particularly exciting, and thus didn’t buy much. Worst of all
there were no book dealers.

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Group: runacc Message: 2027 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/10/2010
Subject: CC28 report – Official Photography
The con chair asked for opinions on photographer for the convention – an
opinion was given that the one they chose was on the expensive side, and the
idea that the CD photo Folio of the entire convention being only web-quality

rubbed many the wrong way. We opted to just pool all our photos together

from several cameras and distribute a set to all the SLCG photographers.

Beyond that, while he didn’t often actively seek out people in the halls, he
was fairly diligent and meticulous about photographing all the competition
costumes and fashion shows.

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Group: runacc Message: 2028 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/11/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – Official Photography – correction
The photographer’s wife actually did go looking for people, so that’s not
accurate. Obviously, he preferred to stay anchored to one spot, given the
expensive equipment he used.

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Nora & Bruce Mai
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 9:01 PM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [runacc] CC28 report – Official Photography

Beyond that, while he didn’t often actively seek out people in the halls, he
was fairly diligent and meticulous about photographing all the competition
costumes and fashion shows.

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Group: runacc Message: 2029 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/11/2010
Subject: CC28 report – Exhibits
Practically non-existent, and the room was hard to find. The 11 or so
costumes on display were all historical in nature, with a simple placard
stating what era they represented: nothing about who they were made by,
where they might have appeared, etc. None of them were competition pieces
(or at least, there was no indication to that effect). It appears very
little effort was made – not sure if that was a result of a staff problem,
or what.

The doll exhibit wasn’t much better. It was also small and unfocused.

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Group: runacc Message: 2030 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/11/2010
Subject: CC28 report – Friday events
Friday: The ICG meeting was reasonably uneventful. It was odd that a break
was taken after an hour – usually, the meeting goes straight through until
the end.

The Friday Night Social went off okay. The Crystal Ballroom was a pretty
setting for the festivities. Refreshments in the middle of the room seemed
oddly placed, and they ran out after only an hour – several people
complained

about that. This is not a good place to save money. There were no
toothpicks on the table, which meant that people had to pick up the

hors d’�uvres by hand – possible sanitary issues. Water was hard to
find, since

all there was only a cash bar outside the room. Some people would have

preferred dance music for atmosphere, but this was a spy convention, after

all, so movie music probably was the more appropriate.

There was a raffle for several door prizes, which people seemed to like, but

it pretty much put a stop to socializing until it was over. This should
have taken place at some other time.

Planning for the Single Pattern Show at the convention was haphazard at
best. No information had been provided to the Single Pattern Show Director
as to where it would take place until she arrived – this would have been
useful to know before the convention. Also, she was not informed beforehand
that the official photographer would arrive too late to take pictures of the

contestants. There was no stage set up for the show until the Director

demanded one, so that the contestants could be seen.

Having the Single Pattern Show during the social seemed to work okay, but
the stage that was eventually set up was barely adequate,

size-wise. Apparently, there was no consideration given to the raffle

items on tables – located on the stage – being in the way of the Single
Pattern entrants. Those had to be moved out of the way. Again – poor
planning.

The show itself was small – only 7 entries. This was mostly attributed to
the difficulty of the patterns chosen. (Note: at other CCs, if the pattern
was too easy or unappealing, there was a similar problem. But, you can
only do the Tibetan Panel Coat so many times.) In any case, the quality of
the entries were very good.

The Video Masquerade was supposed to be concurrent with the Social and the
Single Pattern, and fortunately, did not conflict. There were supposedly 4
entries � no one in our group went to see them, but we heard they were very
good.

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Group: runacc Message: 2031 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/17/2010
Subject: CC28 report – SF & F masquerade
Communications about this event were not good, leading up all the way up to
the masquerade. Many people had questions, but answers weren’t forthcoming
until roughly a month before the convention. We got some bad vibes about
this – first,

the stage was going to be one of the smallest on record – 12′ x 24′. And,
it sounded like there would be no wings for concealing entries,

but that turned out not to be true. Nowhere was it mentioned as to who was

the MC or who the tech crew was.

Upon arrival, we found out masquerade entry forms had to be in by 6 pm,
Friday.

Signing up for tech rehearsal was normal, but having to sign up for
Workmanship judging was not. A couple of us missed this signup sheet,
because we weren’t looking for it. Fortunately, we managed to get worked in
later, but it was a point of consternation for a while until that was sorted
out.

Pipe and drape did not arrive until Saturday. This could have been a
serious issue with tech rehearsals the same day, if something went wrong.

As it turned out, it didn’t interfere. The stage design with the minimal
wings were last minute additions on site (mind you, people had been asking
the concom about this before the convention, but got no real answers). We
had at least one complaint that the stage entry options were too limited.
Given that no one apparently knew what the actual options were until the day
of the masquerade, this is not surprising. By the way, the pipe and drape
material used was not the highest quality – any light behind it shined
through fairly readily, which was distracting with certain entries.

Originally, tech crew was almost negligible. Fortunately, our community is

good at pitching in – many people were drafted on site. The tech

rehearsals, themselves, ran relatively smoothly. Interestingly, there was a
section of time blocked in the afternoon where no one was scheduled – it
allowed a slop factor, in case of delays. Pretty smart, actually.

About the show itself. Given the size of the convention, the fact that
there were 27 entries was pretty good. It was only learned Friday who was
the MC, but fortunately, the person who was drafted was well-experienced..
The show was well paced – very few delays. Overall the quality of the
masquerade was very high. There were at least 3 instances of fairly serious
soundtrack tech errors. More than one person’s presentation was diminished
by that. One entrant refused a re-do, which was too bad, since he was a
Novice. The crew would have been better served if they’d had some simple
radio communications so that some of the problems (including the LAA) could
have been possibly handled better.

The Green Room was too small – many people had large bulky costumes, so this
made things difficult for getting set up to go on stage. Perhaps it was the
only close room of size near the ballroom, but it was still crowded. From
one person in our discussion, we were given the impression that the MD may
not have taken the time to show the backstage staff the rooms they were to
work with. In the couple of hours before the masquerade, the workmanship
judge had established themselves at one of the 8 foot tables well into the
room space where dens were to be set up. The judge didn’t want to move
because they believed (perhaps mistakenly) that they would need all that
space for documentation – not realizing most SF & F masqs usually only have
a few recreations that provide documents. Eventually, the judge did move
into Official Photography, because it was just too cramped with them in the
Green Room. Later, it was discovered there were some other small rooms
that could have been used to alleviate some of the crowdedness,

Awards:

Here’s the breakdown:

SFF – 27 Entries – 19 with awards, 9 without (70%)

Divisions: 12 Masters, 7 Journeymen, 6 Novices

Awards: 6 Workmanship, 16 Presentation, 5 Chapters; total: 27 awards

The announcements of the awards was jumbled and confusing. Workmanship and
Presentation awards were mixed together, and it wasn’t always clear who got
what.

Looking over the stats, the most glaring detail was how few workmanship
awards were given. Out of 27 entries, there were only 6? Even though the
judge saw “outstanding examples of the costumers craft up close”? If that’s
the case, then they did not follow the maxim “Excellence Deserves

Recognition”.

Worse, the person performing that duty was witnessed breaching several
judges ethics with just one entrant (they didn’t attend the panel, BTW).
Among these were talking more about themselves than judging (thus wasting
some of the allotted time to actually inspect), breaking that person’s prop
(accidentally, but they didn’t ask to handle it first), and then saying some
inappropriate things to them later, in the Con Suite(!). They were also
witnessed talking about another entry to people who weren’t in that entry.

After the convention, they posted on Facebook that they hoped to record a
“judges commentary track” for the convention DVDs by Eric Cannon, which
could be available by download. This is, in our opinion, inappropriate.

When objections were raised, the judge defended the idea by saying “This is
the first negative feedback I received about the idea. The commentary would
basically be extra added info from the documentation and workmanship that
members of the audience did not get to see up close. Info … See More like
the people who hand-carved their fabric stamps, who made their own hoops,
hand-punched their own prosthetic hair, or an explanation that Gypsy’s
outfit was based on light refracting through sugar crystals. It would be
geared strictly to allow people to better appreciate the outstanding work
that was done. We also talked about the idea of giving the contestants an
opportunity to display their documentation the day after a competition – so
that people could really appreciate the work done. So much goes on that just
never gets seen from stage distance”.

While the intentions are good, permission must be given for any of that.

Repeating – there were only 6 – Workmanship – Awards.

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Group: runacc Message: 2032 From: Kevin Roche, CC26 Convention Chair Date: 6/17/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – SF & F masquerade

Just a couple of comments by way of clarification…

Nora & Bruce Mai wrote:

>
>
> the stage was going to be one of the smallest on record – 12′ x 24′. And,
> it sounded like there would be no wings for concealing entries,
> but that turned out not to be true. Nowhere was it mentioned as to who was
>
> the MC or who the tech crew was.
>

I was invited to MC about 3 weeks before the convention. There had been
another invitee,
but he had to cancel late in the game. Don’t know why it wasn’t announced.

>
>
> Pipe and drape did not arrive until Saturday. This could have been a
> serious issue with tech rehearsals the same day, if something went wrong.
>
> As it turned out, it didn’t interfere. The stage design with the minimal
> wings were last minute additions on site (mind you, people had been asking
> the concom about this before the convention, but got no real answers). We
> had at least one complaint that the stage entry options were too limited.
>

I figured out how to reconfigure the pipe and drape during tech
rehearsal to create the
small wing areas we did have, after watching a couple of entries that
simply were not going
to work unless we could preload them up the steps. Fortunately, the
hardware proved
to have both telescoping uprights and crossbars; failing that I was
prepared to dust off my
wilderness engineering skills and lash up crossbars for extra drape.

>
> It was only learned Friday who was
> the MC, but fortunately, the person who was drafted was well-experienced.
>

I’m glad it came across this way; while I have plenty of stage speaking
experience,
this is only the second full-on masquerade I’ve MC’d.

>
> .The announcements of the awards was jumbled and confusing.
> Workmanship and
> Presentation awards were mixed together, and it wasn’t always clear
> who got what.
>

Announcing the workmanship and presentation awards together for each
division (as opposed
to doing workmanship awards for all divisions and then presentation for
all divisions) is
a practice that a number of us who were involved in the revision of the
fairness guidelines and also
judge/mc have been encouraging, as it makes it plainer to the audience
that workmanship awards
are not “second class” awards.
It also means that all the Best in Show awards are presented in a block
together.
That is not, however, an excuse for fuzziness in announcing the actual
awards.

Kevin

 

Group: runacc Message: 2033 From: Aurora Celeste Date: 6/17/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – SF & F masquerade

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Kevin Roche, CC26 Convention Chair <
chair@cc26.org> wrote:

> > .The announcements of the awards was jumbled and confusing.
> > Workmanship and
> > Presentation awards were mixed together, and it wasn’t always clear
> > who got what.
> >
> Announcing the workmanship and presentation awards together for each
> division (as opposed
> to doing workmanship awards for all divisions and then presentation for
> all divisions) is
> a practice that a number of us who were involved in the revision of the
> fairness guidelines and also
> judge/mc have been encouraging, as it makes it plainer to the audience
> that workmanship awards
> are not “second class” awards.
> It also means that all the Best in Show awards are presented in a block
> together.
> That is not, however, an excuse for fuzziness in announcing the actual
> awards.
>
>
> Kevin

The simple way, I think, to separate it would have been to have a different
judge announce each part. I was a little suprised when the microphone wasn’t
handed off after the first set, I had assumed this would be the case, and
none of the judges for this particular masque were notoriously shy people.
Since the workmanship judge wasn’t around to pass off to, it would have been
simple, but effective, or one judge to do the novice wormanship, another to
do the novice presentation, the third to do journeman presenation, the first
to do journeyman workmanship, etc.

~Aurora

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Group: runacc Message: 2034 From: Kevin Roche, CC26 Convention Chair Date: 6/17/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – SF & F masquerade

That is one very effective technique. It’s not usually so chaotic as it
was that night (especially when Andy’s involved, as he’s done this
before). I think the added merchandise prizes may have confused things
as well. I know having the podium completely off the stage made it
harder to deal with the physical presentation of the awards and prizes.

(Note that if I’m the MC and the judges tell me they want to announce
the awards themselves, I usually just get out of the way. This works
most of the time 🙂

Aurora Celeste wrote:

>
>
> Kevin
>
> The simple way, I think, to separate it would have been to have a
> different
> judge announce each part. I was a little suprised when the microphone
> wasn’t
> handed off after the first set, I had assumed this would be the case, and
> none of the judges for this particular masque were notoriously shy people.
> Since the workmanship judge wasn’t around to pass off to, it would
> have been
> simple, but effective, or one judge to do the novice wormanship,
> another to
> do the novice presentation, the third to do journeman presenation, the
> first
> to do journeyman workmanship, etc.
>
> ~Aurora
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 2035 From: Byron Connell Date: 6/17/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – SF & F masquerade

Discussions on this and other lists some years ago addressed a concern that workmanship awards were not accorded equal value with presentation awards. To combat this, several of us — led by Marty, I believe — have begun to announce all awards by division instead of announcing all workmanship awards together (by division) and all presentation awards together (by division). We did this at the Denver and Montreal worldcons, announcing first novice workmanship, then novice presentations, then going on to the other divisions. I think CC27 followed the same procedure. It’s certainly what I plan to do for the CC29 historical. Having said that, it is important that the person announcing the awards clearly state that they are one or the other, rather than mixing them within the division.

Byron

On Jun 17, 2010, at 8:23 AM, Nora & Bruce Mai wrote:

> Communications about this event were not good, leading up all the way up to
> the masquerade. Many people had questions, but answers weren’t forthcoming
> until roughly a month before the convention. We got some bad vibes about
> this – first,
>
> the stage was going to be one of the smallest on record – 12′ x 24′. And,
> it sounded like there would be no wings for concealing entries,
>
> but that turned out not to be true. Nowhere was it mentioned as to who was
>
> the MC or who the tech crew was.
>
> Upon arrival, we found out masquerade entry forms had to be in by 6 pm,
> Friday.
>
> Signing up for tech rehearsal was normal, but having to sign up for
> Workmanship judging was not. A couple of us missed this signup sheet,
> because we weren’t looking for it. Fortunately, we managed to get worked in
> later, but it was a point of consternation for a while until that was sorted
> out.
>
> Pipe and drape did not arrive until Saturday. This could have been a
> serious issue with tech rehearsals the same day, if something went wrong.
>
> As it turned out, it didn’t interfere. The stage design with the minimal
> wings were last minute additions on site (mind you, people had been asking
> the concom about this before the convention, but got no real answers). We
> had at least one complaint that the stage entry options were too limited.
> Given that no one apparently knew what the actual options were until the day
> of the masquerade, this is not surprising. By the way, the pipe and drape
> material used was not the highest quality – any light behind it shined
> through fairly readily, which was distracting with certain entries.
>
> Originally, tech crew was almost negligible. Fortunately, our community is
>
> good at pitching in – many people were drafted on site. The tech
>
> rehearsals, themselves, ran relatively smoothly. Interestingly, there was a
> section of time blocked in the afternoon where no one was scheduled – it
> allowed a slop factor, in case of delays. Pretty smart, actually.
>
> About the show itself. Given the size of the convention, the fact that
> there were 27 entries was pretty good. It was only learned Friday who was
> the MC, but fortunately, the person who was drafted was well-experienced..
> The show was well paced – very few delays. Overall the quality of the
> masquerade was very high. There were at least 3 instances of fairly serious
> soundtrack tech errors. More than one person’s presentation was diminished
> by that. One entrant refused a re-do, which was too bad, since he was a
> Novice. The crew would have been better served if they’d had some simple
> radio communications so that some of the problems (including the LAA) could
> have been possibly handled better.
>
> The Green Room was too small – many people had large bulky costumes, so this
> made things difficult for getting set up to go on stage. Perhaps it was the
> only close room of size near the ballroom, but it was still crowded. From
> one person in our discussion, we were given the impression that the MD may
> not have taken the time to show the backstage staff the rooms they were to
> work with. In the couple of hours before the masquerade, the workmanship
> judge had established themselves at one of the 8 foot tables well into the
> room space where dens were to be set up. The judge didn’t want to move
> because they believed (perhaps mistakenly) that they would need all that
> space for documentation – not realizing most SF & F masqs usually only have
> a few recreations that provide documents. Eventually, the judge did move
> into Official Photography, because it was just too cramped with them in the
> Green Room. Later, it was discovered there were some other small rooms
> that could have been used to alleviate some of the crowdedness,
>
> Awards:
>
> Here’s the breakdown:
>
> SFF – 27 Entries – 19 with awards, 9 without (70%)
>
> Divisions: 12 Masters, 7 Journeymen, 6 Novices
>
> Awards: 6 Workmanship, 16 Presentation, 5 Chapters; total: 27 awards
>
> The announcements of the awards was jumbled and confusing. Workmanship and
> Presentation awards were mixed together, and it wasn’t always clear who got
> what.
>
> Looking over the stats, the most glaring detail was how few workmanship
> awards were given. Out of 27 entries, there were only 6? Even though the
> judge saw “outstanding examples of the costumers craft up close”? If that’s
> the case, then they did not follow the maxim “Excellence Deserves
>
> Recognition”.
>
> Worse, the person performing that duty was witnessed breaching several
> judges ethics with just one entrant (they didn’t attend the panel, BTW).
> Among these were talking more about themselves than judging (thus wasting
> some of the allotted time to actually inspect), breaking that person’s prop
> (accidentally, but they didn’t ask to handle it first), and then saying some
> inappropriate things to them later, in the Con Suite(!). They were also
> witnessed talking about another entry to people who weren’t in that entry.
>
> After the convention, they posted on Facebook that they hoped to record a
> “judges commentary track” for the convention DVDs by Eric Cannon, which
> could be available by download. This is, in our opinion, inappropriate.
>
> When objections were raised, the judge defended the idea by saying “This is
> the first negative feedback I received about the idea. The commentary would
> basically be extra added info from the documentation and workmanship that
> members of the audience did not get to see up close. Info … See More like
> the people who hand-carved their fabric stamps, who made their own hoops,
> hand-punched their own prosthetic hair, or an explanation that Gypsy’s
> outfit was based on light refracting through sugar crystals. It would be
> geared strictly to allow people to better appreciate the outstanding work
> that was done. We also talked about the idea of giving the contestants an
> opportunity to display their documentation the day after a competition – so
> that people could really appreciate the work done. So much goes on that just
> never gets seen from stage distance”.
>
> While the intentions are good, permission must be given for any of that.
>
> Repeating – there were only 6 – Workmanship – Awards.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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Group: runacc Message: 2036 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 6/17/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – SF & F masquerade

On Jun 17, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Aurora Celeste wrote:

> Since the workmanship judge wasn’t around to pass off to, it would have been
> simple, but effective, or one judge to do the novice wormanship, another to
> do the novice presentation, the third to do journeman presenation, the first
> to do journeyman workmanship, etc.

You do remember how fried we were at the end of that 😉

We should have talked over announcements a bit more while we had a moment or two.

andy

 

Group: runacc Message: 2037 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 6/17/2010
Subject: CC28 reviews
Hello.

I am not ignoring the reviews. I am just behind on e-mails. Which I will be
catching up on this weekend.

Henry

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Group: runacc Message: 2038 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/18/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – SF & F masquerade awards
You’re right – I do recall that Gordon was supposed to be the MC. But I
know I didn’t hear about you until the day of the con. Only your second MC
job? Well, you did a good job.

I’m still not sure about that whole mixing the awards thing. I understand
what you guys are trying to achieve, but I’m not sure what can be done to
make it clearer. Maybe Aurora’s suggestion might work(?). I don’t recall
that the divisions were announced very clearly, and maybe that’s what needs
to be done.

Bruce

 

Group: runacc Message: 2039 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/18/2010
Subject: CC28 report – LAA — FOR THIS LIST ONLY
To keep the SF & F report from being longer than it already was, I’ve broken
this out into its own report.

I’m going to step out of the “group review” for a moment to make a few
personal comments. No matter what I do, it’s going to come across as petty,
but it needs to be addressed. In my opinion, this year’s Lifetime
Achievement Award presentation was mishandled.

The Lifetime Achievement Award is the highest honor that can be given to the
people who have made large contributions of their time (and sometimes money)
to our community. Nora has said that while she was president, it was the
best part of the job. When presenting the award

during the SF & F halftime, the recipient’s accomplishments are listed so
that the audience knows why that person deserves to be recognized. It’s fun
for the audience to see the surprised look when that person’s name is
announced.

No one thought to find this year’s LAA winners (us) backstage before the
award was ready to be given. I understand that there were some very
complimentary things said about us before the presentation – we didn’t hear
any of it. We still don’t know what was said. So, needless to say, while we
received some nice words from some of our peers afterwards, the actual
recognition was, not to put too fine a point on it, anti-climactic. Some
people in the audience remarked later that they’d noticed our reaction was
somewhat muted. Apparently, Penny Ladnier or someone posted on the
H-costume list not long after that night who had won, but it took
approximately 2 weeks for a post on the D list, and that was only after
someone pointedly inquired. By then, it was old news.

We’ve since learned that something like this has happened at least once
before. So here’s some advice for any future ICG presidents: make the
effort to make sure that your person is actually in the room before
presenting the award. And then follow up after the con.

(Stepping off soapbox now)

Bruce

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Group: runacc Message: 2040 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 6/18/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – LAA — FOR THIS LIST ONLY
Bruce, I’m presuming you were backstage because the award announcement
was not made clear. That’s the MD’s job, not the ICG President’s. The MD
is responsible for ordering the events that take place during the
masquerade and the contestants should be notified. Also betting there
weren’t any monitors backstage either, to allow for you to hear what was
happening in the main tent. Haven’t seen mention of them, but based on
how the rest of the set up was handled, I wouldn’t be surprised.

I recall a similar circumstance in the past, but not specifically where
it was or when. The audience was half gone when the announcement was
made. No attempt was made to ensure that the award was given with
everyone in attendance. It was part of the half-time entertainment and a
lot of folks were still talking in the halls, not in the room awaiting
the awards themselves.

*Future MDs please take note:*

It sucks to receive such an award with half the audience still out in
the wings. It’s embarrassing to have to tell someone who wasn’t there
but could have been what happened (because the judges were still out).

If you want maximum bang for the buck, make the announcement when the
judges are back in the room and ready to hand out the awards but before
the masquerade awards are given. For anything else, the LAA becomes an
afterthought. Ditto (in spades) for the Costume-Con Founder’s Award,
should one be given. I agree that it lessens the impact overall for the
recipient(s) and for the presenters as well as the rest of the audience.

My own $0.02, coming from personal experience (not with the LAA).
Hopefully, your mileage will vary.

Betsy



Betsy Marks Delaney

http://www.hawkeswood.com/

 

Group: runacc Message: 2041 From: Kevin Roche, CC26 Convention Chair Date: 6/18/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – LAA — FOR THIS LIST ONLY

Betsy —

I have to point out that up until the president makes the announcement,
the MD will not know who the recipient(s) are. Only the ICG pres. knows
that until the announcement is made.

Jennifer and I went scrambling to find Bruce and Nora as soon as we’d
heard enough of the introduction to figure it out. We were definitely
hamstrung by the physical arrangement of the rooms and the lack of a
feed into the Green Room. It was really awkward, and, Bruce, I apologize
for my part in that awkwardness. (Note that I’m not disagreeing at all
with your complaint.)

As an aid to future CCs, some discussion about how to handle this more
coherently is definitely in order!

Kevin

Betsy Delaney wrote:

>
>
> Bruce, I’m presuming you were backstage because the award announcement
> was not made clear. That’s the MD’s job, not the ICG President’s. The MD
> is responsible for ordering the events that take place during the
> masquerade and the contestants should be notified. Also betting there
> weren’t any monitors backstage either, to allow for you to hear what was
> happening in the main tent. Haven’t seen mention of them, but based on
> how the rest of the set up was handled, I wouldn’t be surprised.
>
> I recall a similar circumstance in the past, but not specifically where
> it was or when. The audience was half gone when the announcement was
> made. No attempt was made to ensure that the award was given with
> everyone in attendance. It was part of the half-time entertainment and a
> lot of folks were still talking in the halls, not in the room awaiting
> the awards themselves.
>
> *Future MDs please take note:*
>
> It sucks to receive such an award with half the audience still out in
> the wings. It’s embarrassing to have to tell someone who wasn’t there
> but could have been what happened (because the judges were still out).
>
> If you want maximum bang for the buck, make the announcement when the
> judges are back in the room and ready to hand out the awards but before
> the masquerade awards are given. For anything else, the LAA becomes an
> afterthought. Ditto (in spades) for the Costume-Con Founder’s Award,
> should one be given. I agree that it lessens the impact overall for the
> recipient(s) and for the presenters as well as the rest of the audience.
>
> My own $0.02, coming from personal experience (not with the LAA).
> Hopefully, your mileage will vary.
>
> Betsy
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 2042 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 6/18/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – LAA — FOR THIS LIST ONLY

Kevin –
True, nobody knows but the President but it’s not that difficult to check if someone is in the room. It’s simple enough to have someone check if you can’t see the entire room before you get up. Either a partner or maybe a trusted previous recipient? At that point the couple of minutes lead time isn’t going to hurt so long as they don’t give it away.
Or anyone really – most folks wouldn’t leap to the conclusion that you were looking for the new LAA recipient if you just asked if someone had seen them.

Awkward? You bet, neither of us still has any idea of what may have been said – let’s assume it was complimentary.

Nora

— On Fri, 6/18/10, Kevin Roche, CC26 Convention Chair <chair@cc26.org> wrote:

From: Kevin Roche, CC26 Convention Chair <chair@cc26.org>
Subject: Re: [runacc] CC28 report – LAA — FOR THIS LIST ONLY
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 1:16 PM

Betsy —

I have to point out that up until the president makes the announcement,
the MD will not know who the recipient(s) are. Only the ICG pres. knows
that until the announcement is made.

Jennifer and I went scrambling to find Bruce and Nora as soon as we’d
heard enough of the introduction to figure it out. We were definitely
hamstrung by the physical arrangement of the rooms and the lack of a
feed into the Green Room. It was really awkward, and, Bruce, I apologize
for my part in that awkwardness. (Note that I’m not disagreeing at all
with your complaint.)

As an aid to future CCs, some discussion about how to handle this more
coherently is definitely in order!

Kevin

Betsy Delaney wrote:
>
>
> Bruce, I’m presuming you were backstage because the award announcement
> was not made clear. That’s the MD’s job, not the ICG President’s. The MD
> is responsible for ordering the events that take place during the
> masquerade and the contestants should be notified. Also betting there
> weren’t any monitors backstage either, to allow for you to hear what was
> happening in the main tent. Haven’t seen mention of them, but based on
> how the rest of the set up was handled, I wouldn’t be surprised.
>
> I recall a similar circumstance in the past, but not specifically where
> it was or when. The audience was half gone when the announcement was
> made. No attempt was made to ensure that the award was given with
> everyone in attendance. It was part of the half-time entertainment and a
> lot of folks were still talking in the halls, not in the room awaiting
> the awards themselves.
>
> *Future MDs please take note:*
>
> It sucks to receive such an award with half the audience still out in
> the wings. It’s embarrassing to have to tell someone who wasn’t there
> but could have been what happened (because the judges were still out).
>
> If you want maximum bang for the buck, make the announcement when the
> judges are back in the room and ready to hand out the awards but before
> the masquerade awards are given. For anything else, the LAA becomes an
> afterthought. Ditto (in spades) for the Costume-Con Founder’s Award,
> should one be given. I agree that it lessens the impact overall for the
> recipient(s) and for the presenters as well as the rest of the audience.
>
> My own $0.02, coming from personal experience (not with the LAA).
> Hopefully, your mileage will vary.

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Group: runacc Message: 2043 From: Kevin Roche, CC26 Convention Chair Date: 6/18/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – LAA — FOR THIS LIST ONLY

It most certainly was (complimentary 🙂
Kevin

Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:

>
>
> Awkward? You bet, neither of us still has any idea of what may have
> been said – let’s assume it was complimentary.
>
> Nora
>
> __

 

Group: runacc Message: 2044 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 6/18/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – LAA — FOR THIS LIST ONLY

True, Kevin, which is why if you wait to do the awards for when the judges
are back, and encourage folks to get their awards from the house rather than
backstage or ensure that there’s a at least an audio feed to the greenroom
(which I think ought to be mandatory for ALL masquerades anyway), then the
awkwardness goes magically away.

I wasn’t there so I can’t say for sure what happened, but future concoms
should take note that from what I’ve read, this arrangement was WAY
suboptimal, especially for a con like Costume-Con, and goes far beyond just
the LAA.

We all ought to know better by now.

The technology has existed (and really cheaply) for well over 10 years now.
We’ve got no excuse whatsoever for not arranging a feed of some sort from
the main tent to the green room. It shouldn’t be a matter for a reminder but
should instead be one of the standard items you check off along with risers,
the sound system and stage lights. Setting up a monitor is painless.

Seriously.

Betsy

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Kevin Roche, CC26 Convention Chair <
chair@cc26.org> wrote:

>
>
> Betsy —
>
> I have to point out that up until the president makes the announcement,
> the MD will not know who the recipient(s) are. Only the ICG pres. knows
> that until the announcement is made.
>
> Jennifer and I went scrambling to find Bruce and Nora as soon as we’d
> heard enough of the introduction to figure it out. We were definitely
> hamstrung by the physical arrangement of the rooms and the lack of a
> feed into the Green Room. It was really awkward, and, Bruce, I apologize
> for my part in that awkwardness. (Note that I’m not disagreeing at all
> with your complaint.)
>
> As an aid to future CCs, some discussion about how to handle this more
> coherently is definitely in order!
>
> Kevin
>




Betsy Marks Delaney

http://www.hawkeswood.com/

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Group: runacc Message: 2045 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/18/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – LAA — FOR THIS LIST ONLY

Honestly this isn’t primarily an issue about the CC itself. The announcement
was made at an appropriate time in relation to judges, half-time, etc.
What happened here was a fumble on the part of the ICG Pres. Not sure if he
just wanted to be done with it & didn’t think about whether we were in the
room or not.

This isn’t the fault of the MD in any way, she allowed for the announcement
at the right time & without knowing who it concerned (which she couldn’t
have known) that was all she could do.

A backstage feed would still be a nice idea.

Nora

—–Original Message—–
From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Betsy Delaney
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 3:43 PM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [runacc] CC28 report – LAA — FOR THIS LIST ONLY

True, Kevin, which is why if you wait to do the awards for when the judges
are back, and encourage folks to get their awards from the house rather than
backstage or ensure that there’s a at least an audio feed to the greenroom
(which I think ought to be mandatory for ALL masquerades anyway), then the
awkwardness goes magically away.

I wasn’t there so I can’t say for sure what happened, but future concoms
should take note that from what I’ve read, this arrangement was WAY
suboptimal, especially for a con like Costume-Con, and goes far beyond just
the LAA.

We all ought to know better by now.

The technology has existed (and really cheaply) for well over 10 years now.
We’ve got no excuse whatsoever for not arranging a feed of some sort from
the main tent to the green room. It shouldn’t be a matter for a reminder but
should instead be one of the standard items you check off along with risers,
the sound system and stage lights. Setting up a monitor is painless.

Seriously.

Betsy

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Kevin Roche, CC26 Convention Chair <
chair@cc26.org> wrote:

>
>
> Betsy —
>
> I have to point out that up until the president makes the announcement,
> the MD will not know who the recipient(s) are. Only the ICG pres. knows
> that until the announcement is made.
>
> Jennifer and I went scrambling to find Bruce and Nora as soon as we’d
> heard enough of the introduction to figure it out. We were definitely
> hamstrung by the physical arrangement of the rooms and the lack of a
> feed into the Green Room. It was really awkward, and, Bruce, I apologize
> for my part in that awkwardness. (Note that I’m not disagreeing at all
> with your complaint.)
>
> As an aid to future CCs, some discussion about how to handle this more
> coherently is definitely in order!
>
> Kevin

 

Group: runacc Message: 2046 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 6/18/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – LAA — FOR THIS LIST ONLY

On Jun 18, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Betsy Delaney wrote:

> I wasn’t there so I can’t say for sure what happened, but future concoms
> should take note that from what I’ve read, this arrangement was WAY
> suboptimal, especially for a con like Costume-Con, and goes far beyond just
> the LAA.

There was a lot of suboptimal, but there was also one unusual problem.

Richard had a memory card go sour and corrupt a bunch of photos (fortunately he discovered this during judging when he was providing us references), so he and Chris had to get a bunch of entrants back to the photo area to reshoot them. Nora was one of them, and got called back to photo a minute or two before the LAA. Horrible timing, but it would be difficult to avoid.

That said, it would be a good thing for the Pres to let another officer present in on the selection before the show starts (to keep track of the winner during the show) and the MD if the winner is an entrant in the show.

andy

 

Group: runacc Message: 2047 From: Martin Gear Date: 6/18/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – LAA — FOR THIS LIST ONLY

For what it is worth, for the very first LAA, Janet just told me to go
find Marjii, stay with her, and not let her leave the backstage area
(Marjii was a contestant), and get her on stage at “the appropriate
time”. (She left it up to me to figure out what the appropriate time
was.) All without telling me anything about the LAA.
I don’t remember what happened when I got mine other than I really
didn’t think that I deserved it. (No, I’m not giving it back!)
Marty

Andrew T Trembley wrote:

>
>
> On Jun 18, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Betsy Delaney wrote:
> > I wasn’t there so I can’t say for sure what happened, but future concoms
> > should take note that from what I’ve read, this arrangement was WAY
> > suboptimal, especially for a con like Costume-Con, and goes far
> beyond just
> > the LAA.
>
> There was a lot of suboptimal, but there was also one unusual problem.
>
> Richard had a memory card go sour and corrupt a bunch of photos
> (fortunately he discovered this during judging when he was providing
> us references), so he and Chris had to get a bunch of entrants back to
> the photo area to reshoot them. Nora was one of them, and got called
> back to photo a minute or two before the LAA. Horrible timing, but it
> would be difficult to avoid.
>
> That said, it would be a good thing for the Pres to let another
> officer present in on the selection before the show starts (to keep
> track of the winner during the show) and the MD if the winner is an
> entrant in the show.
>
> andy
>
>
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Group: runacc Message: 2048 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/18/2010
Subject: Re: CC28 report – LAA — FOR THIS LIST ONLY
Not to give anything away but all 3 times I gave out the award I made sure
the recipients were present. I still maintain that it is one of the greatest
joys of the job to be able to see their faces at that moment. No surprise to
anyone that I had “someone” check the room for me. The MC might even be a
good choice in some cases, they’re usually well aware of people in the
audience.

As for Richard, I appreciate the effort both he & Karisu made to get my
photos re-taken. It was poorly timed but not in any way their fault or
avoidable, simply bad timing. The only way to avoid that particular mishap
in the future would be to require the photographer to be present to take
pictures during the awards maybe – future cons might want to consider that
anyway.

Nora

—–Original Message—–
From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Andrew T Trembley
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 6:17 PM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [runacc] CC28 report – LAA — FOR THIS LIST ONLY

There was a lot of suboptimal, but there was also one unusual problem.

Richard had a memory card go sour and corrupt a bunch of photos (fortunately
he discovered this during judging when he was providing us references), so
he and Chris had to get a bunch of entrants back to the photo area to
reshoot them. Nora was one of them, and got called back to photo a minute or
two before the LAA. Horrible timing, but it would be difficult to avoid.

That said, it would be a good thing for the Pres to let another officer
present in on the selection before the show starts (to keep track of the
winner during the show) and the MD if the winner is an entrant in the show.

andy

 

Group: runacc Message: 2049 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/18/2010
Subject: CC28 report – FFS
The Future Fashion Folio Show

Due to the lateness of the Folio getting out, few people were able to get
anything done for the show – only 6 entries. One change was made to
encourage more entries, allowing more than one person to do the same design.
This helped in at least once case, and it was interesting to see how two
different people interpreted the same sketch. Perhaps future FFS directors
might consider doing this, also. (I would like to explore this for the CC30
FFS.)

Needless to say, the show was over in less than half an hour.

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Group: runacc Message: 2050 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 6/18/2010
Subject: CC28 report – Outside the con
There were only two “official” field trips planned around the convention –
one to The Safe House restaurant on Thursday evening and one to American
Science & Surplus. Neither of the trips were very well organized by someone
from the convention. Monday, you were on your own, according to the
website, but the con chair supposedly had a shooting range trip planned.
Oddly, the independently-announced SLCG bowling trip got posted on the con
web page, implying it was an official function, which it was not – it had
been picked up from a posting on the Yahoo groups. It’s not that it was a
big deal, but no one said it was going to be posted there.

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