runacc.costume-con.org

FWIIW, unless one is reproducing a historic garment prior to the 1830’s
I see no objection to machine sewing, and in fact if the garment is
recreation/interpretation rather than a reproduction (or whatever set of
terms is being used) I don’t really mind someone using a sewing machine
for the earlier garments. I have judged too many costumes where the
contestant went on a great length about how much time they had spent
hand sewing something (poorly) when it would have looked much better had
the main seams been sewn on the most basic of machines. My one
grandfather was a Greek tailor and my one cousin has his PhD in costume
design. Both of them are capable of perfect hand sewing garments, and
both used/use sewing machines where ever possible.

Marty (wearing his judges hat.)

On 10/28/2012 11:26 PM, bruno@soulmasque.com wrote:
>
> I had someone ask me yesterday if there are judging guidelines for the
> historical workmanship so that people know exactly what they are being
> judged on. The question came from someone who is a pretty serious
> historical costumer, is a past officer in Costume Society of America and
> never been to CC. Is more weight given to hand sewing or is machine
> sewing acceptable for the historical?
>
> Michael
>
>
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I’m pretty sure that we (CC-27) permitted one day memberships to
compete, particularly in the case of groups. Also, I never close my
registration prior to the afternoon on the day of the masquerade. I’ve
seen too many cases where weird transportation problems have delayed
people getting there.
Marty
Marty

On 10/29/2012 11:09 PM, bruno@soulmasque.com wrote:
>
> A recent thought on one day memberships . . . at most conventions, one
> could get a one day membership for Saturday only, register for the
> masquerade that day and be in the masquerade. However, I think at CC,
> masquerade registration traditionally closes on Friday night. Are
> people allowed to enter the masquerades with only a membership for the
> day of the masquerade. I know we generally want full weekend attending
> memberships, but we could lose potential masquerade entries and one day
> memberships.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Michael
> CC31
>
>
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Does registration until Noon on the day of the Historical leave enough
time for workmanship judging and tech?

Michael

On 2012-10-30 11:21, Martin Gear wrote:
> I’m pretty sure that we (CC-27) permitted one day memberships to
> compete, particularly in the case of groups. Also, I never close my
> registration prior to the afternoon on the day of the masquerade.
> I’ve
> seen too many cases where weird transportation problems have delayed
> people getting there.
> Marty

I believe reg on historical usually ends on friday and Sat/Sun are judging.

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 8:35 PM, <bruno@soulmasque.com> wrote:

> Does registration until Noon on the day of the Historical leave enough
> time for workmanship judging and tech?
>
> Michael
>
>
> On 2012-10-30 11:21, Martin Gear wrote:
> > I’m pretty sure that we (CC-27) permitted one day memberships to
> > compete, particularly in the case of groups. Also, I never close my
> > registration prior to the afternoon on the day of the masquerade.
> > I’ve
> > seen too many cases where weird transportation problems have delayed
> > people getting there.
> > Marty
>
>
>
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Yes, because entrants who register early can begin workmanship judging, and maybe tech, early. Those registering later will have fewer time slots from which to choose. (I prefer 10-minute tech rehearsal slots; however, others prefer briefer periods.) For a Sunday historical, it may even be possible to begin workmanship judging on Saturday (the judges willing and the space available). Beginning the day before might not be feasible for a Saturday historical.

Byron

On Oct 30, 2012, at 8:35 PM, bruno@soulmasque.com wrote:

> Does registration until Noon on the day of the Historical leave enough
> time for workmanship judging and tech?
>
> Michael
>
> On 2012-10-30 11:21, Martin Gear wrote:
> > I’m pretty sure that we (CC-27) permitted one day memberships to
> > compete, particularly in the case of groups. Also, I never close my
> > registration prior to the afternoon on the day of the masquerade.
> > I’ve
> > seen too many cases where weird transportation problems have delayed
> > people getting there.
> > Marty
>
>

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If you’re talking SF, then yeah, Noon on Saturday is more normal.

Bruce

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Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 10:09 PM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [runacc] one day memberships and masquerade entries

A recent thought on one day memberships . . . at most conventions, one could get a one day membership for Saturday only, register for the masquerade that day and be in the masquerade. However, I think at CC, masquerade registration traditionally closes on Friday night. Are people allowed to enter the masquerades with only a membership for the day of the masquerade. I know we generally want full weekend attending memberships, but we could lose potential masquerade entries and one day memberships.

Thoughts?

Michael
CC31

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If the masquerade director allows for electronic documentation as well as
paper back-up, and electronic registration, I don’t see why a one-day
membership for Sunday wouldn’t work. Considering the historically (heh)
lower rates of entries in the Historical Masquerade, I’d think any excuse
to add folks would be welcome.

My own $0.02. Your mileage may vary…

-b

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Who handles these – Betsy?

Bruce

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Karen and I are the only admins for the group.

All the subscription info is below. Or just shoot an email to
runacc-owner@yahoogroups.com (I think).

Thanks!

Betsy

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Nora & Bruce Mai <casamai@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Who handles these – Betsy?
>
>
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> Bruce
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http://www.hawkeswood.com/

I believe there are a couple of Madison folks who should be on this list.
Of course, it’s been ages since I followed this up. I know there is at
least one or two. Could those folks speak up?

Bruce

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Betsy Marks Delaney
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 10:01 PM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [runacc] Invites for the CC bidders

Karen and I are the only admins for the group.

All the subscription info is below. Or just shoot an email to
runacc-owner@yahoogroups.com (I think).

Thanks!

Betsy

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Nora & Bruce Mai <casamai@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

> Who handles these – Betsy?
>
>
>
> Bruce
>
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>
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It has just been emailed to all Attendees and Supporting memberships,
persons who have signed up for our mailing list, and everyone on the
Perpetual CC email list. Paper copies will go out by mail to persons
who requested those on Monday.

<http://cc31denver.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=e618552d20e92f7e04e2525f4&id=a5deba8d9d&e=d113f0fb03>

Has there been an official announcement of the CC34 bid? When do we
need mail the ballots for early voting?

Thanks.

Michael

Not one that I’ve seen.

Byron

On Jan 5, 2013, at 6:03 PM, bruno@soulmasque.com wrote:

> Has there been an official announcement of the CC34 bid? When do we
> need mail the ballots for early voting?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Michael
>
>

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In a message dated 1/5/2013 5:03:05 PM Central Standard Time,
bruno@soulmasque.com writes:

> Has there been an official announcement of the CC34 bid? When do we
> need mail the ballots for early voting?
>
>
>

There is one from Madison, Wisconsin. Karen does know about it. Last I
knew, ballots need to go out three months before the con.

Henry

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The Bid Committee to bring CC34 to Madison is working, full-steam ahead.
If you are interested in getting updates as they come out, we have a
Facebook page listed under “Costume Con Madison” as well as a Twitter feed,
@CostumeCon34. If you are on neither of these, feel free to drop me a line
by email as other updating methods will likely become available.

Sarah Bloy
CC Madison Bid Committee Chair

On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 6:33 PM, <osierhenry@cs.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> In a message dated 1/5/2013 5:03:05 PM Central Standard Time,
> bruno@soulmasque.com writes:
> > Has there been an official announcement of the CC34 bid? When do we
> > need mail the ballots for early voting?
> >
> >
> >
> There is one from Madison, Wisconsin. Karen does know about it. Last I
> knew, ballots need to go out three months before the con.
>
> Henry
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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Great News!

All the best!

~Dawn McKechnie
Fibre Fantasy Artists of Canada / Costume-Con 32

> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> From: berzerker.prime@gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 23:18:08 -0600
> Subject: Re: [runacc] CC34 bid?
>
> The Bid Committee to bring CC34 to Madison is working, full-steam ahead.
> If you are interested in getting updates as they come out, we have a
> Facebook page listed under “Costume Con Madison” as well as a Twitter feed,
> @CostumeCon34. If you are on neither of these, feel free to drop me a line
> by email as other updating methods will likely become available.
>
> Sarah Bloy
> CC Madison Bid Committee Chair
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 6:33 PM, <osierhenry@cs.com> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 1/5/2013 5:03:05 PM Central Standard Time,
> > bruno@soulmasque.com writes:
> > > Has there been an official announcement of the CC34 bid? When do we
> > > need mail the ballots for early voting?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > There is one from Madison, Wisconsin. Karen does know about it. Last I
> > knew, ballots need to go out three months before the con.
> >
> > Henry
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Hooray, I found the invite and got onto the list! Hello everyone!

— In runacc@yahoogroups.com, bruno@… wrote:
>
> Has there been an official announcement of the CC34 bid? When do we
> need mail the ballots for early voting?

As secretary and vice-chair of the CC34 Bid Committee, I would like to know what sorts of documents and logistical things we need to be doing. Do WE prepare announcements or does someone else? Who prepares said ballots? And what sorts of things are we expected to do as a bid committee at CC31?

Thanks for your collective help in advance. Most of us on the committee for Madison are not new to running conventions nor attending CC, but we are first-time CostumeCon bidders. We’d love all the advice you wise folks can give.

Stace
MACS president
CC34 Madison secretary/vice-chair

Stace —

Welcome!

I have absolutely no official role. However, I may be helpful. Many of your questions are answered in the Costume-Con ConStiitution and supporting documents on the Costume-Con web site at:

http://www.costume-con.org/constitution.shtml

I believe that, once you have submitted the required bid material (see sections 2.4 and 2.5 of the ConStitution) to Karen Schnaubelt (aka, Ghod) and she has verified that yours is a valid bid, you would be free to make announcements and otherwise publicize your bid (e.g., Madison Area Costuming Society is bidding to offer Costume-Con 24 in ______) using any and all media (e.g., web site, Facebook page, Twitter, paper announcements, press releases, shouting out the window, embroidery on costumes. . . ).

The ConStitution requires CC 31 to prepare and distribute the ballot and to count the votes (section 2.10).

At CC 31, you should work on promoting the bid. This could include a fan table, entries in masquerades promoting the bid, sponsoring the Con Suite, making awards to entries in the masquerades that relate to the con’s philosophy or theme, and so forth. Check with the CC 31 concom. Wearing hall costumes that promote the bid would not hurt.

Remember, I have absolutely no official position, so anything I say is subject to correction or contradiction. If in doubt, ask Karen; she’s the service mark holder.

Byron

On Jan 9, 2013, at 12:55 PM, staceylee25 <staceylee25@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hooray, I found the invite and got onto the list! Hello everyone!
>
> — In runacc@yahoogroups.com, bruno@… wrote:
> >
> > Has there been an official announcement of the CC34 bid? When do we
> > need mail the ballots for early voting?
>
> As secretary and vice-chair of the CC34 Bid Committee, I would like to know what sorts of documents and logistical things we need to be doing. Do WE prepare announcements or does someone else? Who prepares said ballots? And what sorts of things are we expected to do as a bid committee at CC31?
>
> Thanks for your collective help in advance. Most of us on the committee for Madison are not new to running conventions nor attending CC, but we are first-time CostumeCon bidders. We’d love all the advice you wise folks can give.
>
> Stace
> MACS president
> CC34 Madison secretary/vice-chair
>
>

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I did submit the bid for MACS before the deadline. Karen emailed me and said everything looked good but she needed more time to go through it. I haven’t heard back from her since, but I know we are the only bid. I emailed her (i think) about a month ago asking if there was anything else, but I guess she is dealing with a lot of personal issues right now.

Jamie Butler

Vice President – Madison Area Costuming Society

Guilde of St. George

— On Wed, 1/9/13, Byron Connell <byronpconnell@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Byron Connell <byronpconnell@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [runacc] CC34 bid?
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 9, 2013, 7:28 PM

Stace —

Welcome!

I have absolutely no official role.  However, I may be helpful.  Many of your questions are answered in the Costume-Con ConStiitution and supporting documents on the Costume-Con web site at:

http://www.costume-con.org/constitution.shtml

I believe that, once you have submitted the required bid material (see sections 2.4 and 2.5 of the ConStitution) to Karen Schnaubelt (aka, Ghod) and she has verified that yours is a valid bid, you would be free to make announcements and otherwise publicize your bid (e.g., Madison Area Costuming Society is bidding to offer Costume-Con 24 in ______) using any and all media (e.g., web site, Facebook page, Twitter, paper announcements, press releases, shouting out the window, embroidery on costumes. . . ).

The ConStitution requires CC 31 to prepare and distribute the ballot and to count the votes (section 2.10).

At CC 31, you should work on promoting the bid.  This could include a fan table, entries in masquerades promoting the bid, sponsoring the Con Suite, making awards to entries in the masquerades that relate to the con’s philosophy or theme, and so forth.  Check with the CC 31 concom.  Wearing hall costumes that promote the bid would not hurt.

Remember, I have absolutely no official position, so anything I say is subject to correction or contradiction.  If in doubt, ask Karen; she’s the service mark holder.

Byron

On Jan 9, 2013, at 12:55 PM, staceylee25 <staceylee25@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hooray, I found the invite and got onto the list! Hello everyone!
>
> — In runacc@yahoogroups.com, bruno@… wrote:
> >
> > Has there been an official announcement of the CC34 bid? When do we
> > need mail the ballots for early voting?
>
> As secretary and vice-chair of the CC34 Bid Committee, I would like to know what sorts of documents and logistical things we need to be doing. Do WE prepare announcements or does someone else? Who prepares said ballots? And what sorts of things are we expected to do as a bid committee at CC31?
>
> Thanks for your collective help in advance. Most of us on the committee for Madison are not new to running conventions nor attending CC, but we are first-time CostumeCon bidders. We’d love all the advice you wise folks can give.
>
> Stace
> MACS president
> CC34 Madison secretary/vice-chair
>
>

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Dawn,
Please contact me directly. I have a question for you.
Henry

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Sandy,
Contact me directly!
Thanks!
Henry

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Recommendations for manufacturers and when do I need to order them?

Thanks.

Michael

Hodges Ribbons is the place that Marty recommends for the big “horse show”
ribbons.

You want to allow about six weeks, more if you can, iirc.

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I concur. Hodges is who we used, too, for CC26, and will for Westercon 66
as well.

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Marg Grady <marg1066@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hodges Ribbons is the place that Marty recommends for the big “horse show”
> ribbons.
>
> You want to allow about six weeks, more if you can, iirc.
>
>
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Michael –
As Marg told you, most of the East Coast cons use Hodges Badge Company
for their ribbon orders. Because they started out selling ribbons for
horse shows the closest to the horse show season the busier they get. I
try to order ribbons for Balticon (end of May) at least two months in
advance, although I think that we ordered the ribbons for CC-30 about 3
weeks before and still got them in time. They also have some ribbons
that they can produce in 72 hours. If you can order before the end of
February, you get a discount on your order. If you are having a special
logo made for the center of the rosettes allow an extra week to get it
made. NOTE: there is a one time charge for the die but no charge after
that for using it. They also have a selection of available stamps for
the rosette centers which makes more sense when you are doing a one shot
con. They are really good people to deal with, their quality is
excellent, and of course they make plain badge ribbons both vertical and
horizontal as well as the rosettes. Remember that there will be a
charge each time that you change text. I usually do my ribbon order and
let them calculate the charges for the text changes. They will fax you a
copy of your order priced out for you to approve before they start to
produce the ribbons. If I can be of any help, please drop me a line.
Marty

Their website is: www.hodgesbadge.com

On 1/29/2013 10:22 PM, bruno@soulmasque.com wrote:
>
> Recommendations for manufacturers and when do I need to order them?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Michael
>
>

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I also concur. I used Hodges for Philcon masquerades, the three years I ran them. We used the company for CC 29 and I believe Chicon 7 used it for all its ribbons.

Byron

On Jan 30, 2013, at 12:31 PM, Kevin Roche <kevin@twistedimage.com> wrote:

> I concur. Hodges is who we used, too, for CC26, and will for Westercon 66
> as well.
>
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Marg Grady marg1066@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hodges Ribbons is the place that Marty recommends for the big “horse show”
> > ribbons.
> >
> > You want to allow about six weeks, more if you can, iirc.
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
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How about an estimate on number of ribbons needed? I’m sure that are
many variables.

Michael

On 2013-01-30 11:02, Martin Gear wrote:
> Michael –
> As Marg told you, most of the East Coast cons use Hodges Badge
> Company
> for their ribbon orders. Because they started out selling ribbons
> for
> horse shows the closest to the horse show season the busier they
> get. I
> try to order ribbons for Balticon (end of May) at least two months
> in
> advance, although I think that we ordered the ribbons for CC-30
> about 3
> weeks before and still got them in time. They also have some ribbons
> that they can produce in 72 hours. If you can order before the end
> of
> February, you get a discount on your order. If you are having a
> special
> logo made for the center of the rosettes allow an extra week to get
> it
> made. NOTE: there is a one time charge for the die but no charge
> after
> that for using it. They also have a selection of available stamps
> for
> the rosette centers which makes more sense when you are doing a one
> shot
> con. They are really good people to deal with, their quality is
> excellent, and of course they make plain badge ribbons both vertical
> and
> horizontal as well as the rosettes. Remember that there will be a
> charge each time that you change text. I usually do my ribbon order
> and
> let them calculate the charges for the text changes. They will fax
> you a
> copy of your order priced out for you to approve before they start
> to
> produce the ribbons. If I can be of any help, please drop me a line.
> Marty
>
> Their website is: www.hodgesbadge.com
>
>

We have an inquiry from a Canadian vendor about permits. I vaguely
recall a discussion about something similar. I know for US vendors, we
refer them to the CO tax office to handle all of their own tax stuff.

Anyone one closer to Canada had to work with Canadian dealers?

Michael

You might want to also look at Stineman Ribbons: http://www.stinemanribbon.com/ – I got the Ribbon Project rosettes from them.
From what I hear of Hodges the service & prices are about the same but it might give you some style variants.

Basic ribbons would probably be the same from each but Stineman has some options & colors I didn’t see on Hodges site.
They were great at communication and really fast delivery, although it’s always good to plan in advance.

Just another option,

Nora

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Subject: [runacc] award ribbons

Recommendations for manufacturers and when do I need to order them?

Thanks.

Michael

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Excellent question (and repeated often).

One of the nice things about Yahoo Groups is the ability to store links to
useful stuff.

I just created a folder there, called Award Ribbons.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/runacc/links/Award_Ribbons_001359646081/

You’ll find these two companies listed, with the name of the company,
address and URL.

Anyone who is a member of this list can add links. Also files, etc.

I see these things requested often and I’m going to suggest that it would
be a GOOD THING ™ to take your documentation and place a copy up in the
files section, or in links, and share this data so we don’t have to ask
every time for each new con.

Yes, the purpose of this list is to share info. The purpose of the site is
to make that sharing easier.

Setting up the links took me about three minutes (less time than it took to
compose this message).

Go explore Yahoo, please!

(Note: You do need a Yahoo account to access the benefits of the group
beyond just getting email, but setting up a Yahoo account is trivial. If
you need help connecting your Yahoo account to this group, drop me a line
and I’ll take care of it for you.)

Cheers,

Betsy
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Michael –
The short answer is that you will order either too many or too few. Too
many is better because if you have ti place a second order there will be
extra charges. I believe that Kevin or Bruce have kept stats regarding
what percentage of attendees compete, and what percentage of those win
an award. Hopefully they can give you a better idea. If I get some time
this weekend I’ll send you my technique for changing the center streamer
so that you can save on the Best-in-Class and Best-in-Show ribbons.
Marty

On 1/30/2013 11:36 PM, bruno@soulmasque.com wrote:
>
> How about an estimate on number of ribbons needed? I’m sure that are
> many variables.
>
> Michael
>
> On 2013-01-30 11:02, Martin Gear wrote:
> > Michael –
> > As Marg told you, most of the East Coast cons use Hodges Badge
> > Company
> > for their ribbon orders. Because they started out selling ribbons
> > for
> > horse shows the closest to the horse show season the busier they
> > get. I
> > try to order ribbons for Balticon (end of May) at least two months
> > in
> > advance, although I think that we ordered the ribbons for CC-30
> > about 3
> > weeks before and still got them in time. They also have some ribbons
> > that they can produce in 72 hours. If you can order before the end
> > of
> > February, you get a discount on your order. If you are having a
> > special
> > logo made for the center of the rosettes allow an extra week to get
> > it
> > made. NOTE: there is a one time charge for the die but no charge
> > after
> > that for using it. They also have a selection of available stamps
> > for
> > the rosette centers which makes more sense when you are doing a one
> > shot
> > con. They are really good people to deal with, their quality is
> > excellent, and of course they make plain badge ribbons both vertical
> > and
> > horizontal as well as the rosettes. Remember that there will be a
> > charge each time that you change text. I usually do my ribbon order
> > and
> > let them calculate the charges for the text changes. They will fax
> > you a
> > copy of your order priced out for you to approve before they start
> > to
> > produce the ribbons. If I can be of any help, please drop me a line.
> > Marty
> >
> > Their website is: www.hodgesbadge.com
> >
> >
>
>

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For Anticipation, the 2009 Worldcon, I had 25 entries. I ordered 120 award ribbons and ran out. I had to limit winning groups in the master division to one ribbon per group. This year, I placed the same order for Chicon, had 25 entries, and had a few left over.

What you need to do is have each MD estimate the number of bodies in the show and the proportion winning a workmanship award or a presentation award. This is their job, not yours. In a show such as the historical, that easily could exceed 100 percent of the number of bodies, since awards are made for documentation, workmanship, and presentation. Your MDs should review the data on SF and historical masquerades in the recent past on CostumeCon.org and make estimates for their own shows.

If you keep all ribbons simple and generic (e.g., “CostumeCon 31 Award”), you aren’t limited to using one sent of ribbons for one show. I also do not use different colored or labeled ribbons for different awards (e.g., best in show). In the tradition of the original Olympics in ancient Greece, everyone receives the same ribbon; the certificate says what it was for.

I hope this helps.

Byron

On Jan 31, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Martin Gear <MartinGear@comcast.net> wrote:

> Michael –
> The short answer is that you will order either too many or too few. Too
> many is better because if you have ti place a second order there will be
> extra charges. I believe that Kevin or Bruce have kept stats regarding
> what percentage of attendees compete, and what percentage of those win
> an award. Hopefully they can give you a better idea. If I get some time
> this weekend I’ll send you my technique for changing the center streamer
> so that you can save on the Best-in-Class and Best-in-Show ribbons.
> Marty
>
> On 1/30/2013 11:36 PM, bruno@soulmasque.com wrote:
> >
> > How about an estimate on number of ribbons needed? I’m sure that are
> > many variables.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > On 2013-01-30 11:02, Martin Gear wrote:
> > > Michael –
> > > As Marg told you, most of the East Coast cons use Hodges Badge
> > > Company
> > > for their ribbon orders. Because they started out selling ribbons
> > > for
> > > horse shows the closest to the horse show season the busier they
> > > get. I
> > > try to order ribbons for Balticon (end of May) at least two months
> > > in
> > > advance, although I think that we ordered the ribbons for CC-30
> > > about 3
> > > weeks before and still got them in time. They also have some ribbons
> > > that they can produce in 72 hours. If you can order before the end
> > > of
> > > February, you get a discount on your order. If you are having a
> > > special
> > > logo made for the center of the rosettes allow an extra week to get
> > > it
> > > made. NOTE: there is a one time charge for the die but no charge
> > > after
> > > that for using it. They also have a selection of available stamps
> > > for
> > > the rosette centers which makes more sense when you are doing a one
> > > shot
> > > con. They are really good people to deal with, their quality is
> > > excellent, and of course they make plain badge ribbons both vertical
> > > and
> > > horizontal as well as the rosettes. Remember that there will be a
> > > charge each time that you change text. I usually do my ribbon order
> > > and
> > > let them calculate the charges for the text changes. They will fax
> > > you a
> > > copy of your order priced out for you to approve before they start
> > > to
> > > produce the ribbons. If I can be of any help, please drop me a line.
> > > Marty
> > >
> > > Their website is: www.hodgesbadge.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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>
>

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You might want to talk with Angela Jones at Angelwear
Creations<http://www.angelwearcreations.com/>
.

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 9:35 PM, <bruno@soulmasque.com> wrote:

> We have an inquiry from a Canadian vendor about permits. I vaguely
> recall a discussion about something similar. I know for US vendors, we
> refer them to the CO tax office to handle all of their own tax stuff.
>
> Anyone one closer to Canada had to work with Canadian dealers?
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
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>
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>

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In doing some research in the Costume-Con Visual Archive, I found that CC 13 had been taken down. Will it be restored?

Byron

It’s there, but oddly enough is appearing BEFORE CC12. Weird!

-b

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Byron Connell <byronpconnell@gmail.com> wrote:
> In doing some research in the Costume-Con Visual Archive, I found that CC 13 had been taken down. Will it be restored?
>
> Byron
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Betsy Marks Delaney

http://www.hawkeswood.com/

All fixed (there is a re-order function built into the admin interface.)

Moving one item is easy-peasy.

Kevin

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Betsy Marks Delaney
<aramintamd@gmail.com>wrote:

> It’s there, but oddly enough is appearing BEFORE CC12. Weird!
>
> -b
>
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Byron Connell <byronpconnell@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > In doing some research in the Costume-Con Visual Archive, I found that
> CC 13 had been taken down. Will it be restored?
> >
> > Byron
> —
> —
> —
> Betsy Marks Delaney
>
> http://www.hawkeswood.com/
>
>
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>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/Yahoo!
> Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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Thanks, Kevin! It’s been soooo long…

-b

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Kevin Roche <kevin@twistedimage.com> wrote:
> All fixed (there is a re-order function built into the admin interface.)
>
> Moving one item is easy-peasy.
>
> Kevin

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http://www.hawkeswood.com/

I was just happy to discover my “keys to the car” still worked 🙂

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Betsy Marks Delaney <aramintamd@gmail.com>wrote:

> Thanks, Kevin! It’s been soooo long…
>
> -b
>
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Kevin Roche <kevin@twistedimage.com>
> wrote:
> > All fixed (there is a re-order function built into the admin interface.)
> >
> > Moving one item is easy-peasy.
> >
> > Kevin
>
> —
> —
> —
> Betsy Marks Delaney
>
> http://www.hawkeswood.com/
>
>
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>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/Yahoo!
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>
>
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>

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I re-ordered the folders a while back (with Karen’s permission) so the newer
years are at the top.

Nora

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I was just happy to discover my “keys to the car” still worked 🙂

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Betsy Marks Delaney
<aramintamd@gmail.com>wrote:

> Thanks, Kevin! It’s been soooo long…
>
> -b
>
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Kevin Roche <kevin@twistedimage.com>
> wrote:
> > All fixed (there is a re-order function built into the admin interface.)
> >
> > Moving one item is easy-peasy.
> >
> > Kevin
>
> —
> —
> —
> Betsy Marks Delaney
>
> http://www.hawkeswood.com/
>
>
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>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/Yahoo!
> Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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Does a copy of the folio go to everyone at the door or just full
weekend attendees?

Michael

CCXV gave a copy of the book to everyone who paid full freight during the
weekend (especially at the discounted Student rate). Can’t speak for the
others. We had about a box of them left over at the end of the con, and I
don’t recall whether we sold them to get rid of them or did something else
instead. Been too long.

-b

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:10 AM, <bruno@soulmasque.com> wrote:

> Does a copy of the folio go to everyone at the door or just full
> weekend attendees?
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> ————————————
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/Yahoo!
> Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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http://www.hawkeswood.com/

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We gave them to everyone with a full membership (and I mailed them, along with the rest of the “at door” packet to anyone that didn’t make it), and we still ended up with a bunch left over. I passed them out to folks who asked for a copy at later cons. I think I still have some and sent a bunch to recycling.

Trudy

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: bruno@soulmasque.com
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 23:10:40 -0700
Subject: [runacc] folio at the door

Does a copy of the folio go to everyone at the door or just full

weekend attendees?

Michael

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Thanks. That’s two for giving them to full weekend at the door.

Michael

On 2013-04-17 14:28, Trudy Leonard wrote:
> We gave them to everyone with a full membership (and I mailed them,
> along with the rest of the “at door” packet to anyone that didn’t make
> it), and we still ended up with a bunch left over. I passed them out
> to folks who asked for a copy at later cons. I think I still have some
> and sent a bunch to recycling.
>
> Trudy

Note, that both of these CC’s were before the use
of digital folios. I believe CC28 provided a
disc containing the folio to people who joined at
the door. Henry will have to confirm. I’m not
sure what CC29 & 30 did. Printing is so
expensive, it’s much easier and cheaper to put a
digital copy on disc (PDF) than to actually print and bind (staple, whatever).

Just my 2 pence.

Sandy

At 08:35 PM 4/17/2013, you wrote:

>Thanks. That’s two for giving them to full weekend at the door.
>
>Michael
>
>On 2013-04-17 14:28, Trudy Leonard wrote:
> > We gave them to everyone with a full membership (and I mailed them,
> > along with the rest of the “at door” packet to anyone that didn’t make
> > it), and we still ended up with a bunch left over. I passed them out
> > to folks who asked for a copy at later cons. I think I still have some
> > and sent a bunch to recycling.
> >
> > Trudy
>
>

International Costumers’ Guild Archivist

http://www.costume.org/gallery2/main.php

“Those Who Fail to Learn History
Are Doomed to Repeat It;
Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly –
Why They Are Simply Doomed.”

Achemdro’hm
“The Illusion of Historical Fact”
— C. Y. 4971

Andromeda

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I agree with Sandy. Having worked in the print & copy shop industry for
a little while, the costs easily get high very fast. I don’t recall if
at CC30 the folio was being offered on disk, but it was not in the ‘at
the door’ packets. (I just checked one that I filed away).

Thanks to the small cost of CDs, and the near-ubiquitousness of CD/DVD
burners in laptops, I would burn a small stack (25-50) and have them at
the check-in table. Have disks for those that request it, and if you run
out, burn on demand.

I personally think the digital folio is a great thing, but then I also
hate paperwork…

just my .02

~Elaine, who has never really run a Con 🙂

PErsonally I LOVE t he idea of having a hard paper copy of the Folio.
Digital is okay……..but with the paper Folio, I Can print out photos
of people wearing the designs they made and tape them into the book (I
suppose that one could do this digitally, but I don’t live in a personal
digital world……).

Yours in costumign, Lisa A

On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 05:56:07 -0700 Elaine Sims <elaine@woollycat.net>
writes:

> I agree with Sandy. Having worked in the print & copy shop industry
> for
> a little while, the costs easily get high very fast. I don’t recall
> if
> at CC30 the folio was being offered on disk, but it was not in the
> ‘at
> the door’ packets. (I just checked one that I filed away).
>
> Thanks to the small cost of CDs, and the near-ubiquitousness of
> CD/DVD
> burners in laptops, I would burn a small stack (25-50) and have them
> at
> the check-in table. Have disks for those that request it, and if you
> run
> out, burn on demand.
>
> I personally think the digital folio is a great thing, but then I
> also
> hate paperwork…
>
> just my .02
>
> ~Elaine, who has never really run a Con 🙂
>
>
> ————————————
>
> View the Document:
> http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Make it three.

Byron

On Apr 17, 2013, at 9:35 PM, bruno@soulmasque.com wrote:

> Thanks. That’s two for giving them to full weekend at the door.
>
> Michael
>
> On 2013-04-17 14:28, Trudy Leonard wrote:
> > We gave them to everyone with a full membership (and I mailed them,
> > along with the rest of the “at door” packet to anyone that didn’t make
> > it), and we still ended up with a bunch left over. I passed them out
> > to folks who asked for a copy at later cons. I think I still have some
> > and sent a bunch to recycling.
> >
> > Trudy
>
>

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Maybe I’m out in left field, but I would consider paying $3-5 if the con
wanted to email digital and sell hard copies.

On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Byron Connell <byronpconnell@gmail.com>wrote:

> Make it three.
>
> Byron
>
>
> On Apr 17, 2013, at 9:35 PM, bruno@soulmasque.com wrote:
>
> > Thanks. That’s two for giving them to full weekend at the door.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > On 2013-04-17 14:28, Trudy Leonard wrote:
> > > We gave them to everyone with a full membership (and I mailed them,
> > > along with the rest of the “at door” packet to anyone that didn’t make
> > > it), and we still ended up with a bunch left over. I passed them out
> > > to folks who asked for a copy at later cons. I think I still have some
> > > and sent a bunch to recycling.
> > >
> > > Trudy
> >
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ————————————
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/Yahoo!
> Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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Purchase of a copy of the Folio is included in an attending membership. Unless a con advertises that it will not be made available to at-the-door entrants in the same form provided to advance purchasers and reduces the at-the-door price to reflect its absence, the con is treating attending members unequally, to say the least.

Byron

On Apr 18, 2013, at 8:56 AM, Elaine Sims <elaine@woollycat.net> wrote:

> I agree with Sandy. Having worked in the print & copy shop industry for
> a little while, the costs easily get high very fast. I don’t recall if
> at CC30 the folio was being offered on disk, but it was not in the ‘at
> the door’ packets. (I just checked one that I filed away).
>
> Thanks to the small cost of CDs, and the near-ubiquitousness of CD/DVD
> burners in laptops, I would burn a small stack (25-50) and have them at
> the check-in table. Have disks for those that request it, and if you run
> out, burn on demand.
>
> I personally think the digital folio is a great thing, but then I also
> hate paperwork…
>
> just my .02
>
> ~Elaine, who has never really run a Con 🙂
>

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I know that 29 had CDs to give out, and we (30) had some CDs & some paper, in case we ran out – which we did. Elaine
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: costumrs@radiks.net
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 22:28:00 -0500
Subject: [runacc] RE: folio at the door

Note, that both of these CC’s were before the use

of digital folios. I believe CC28 provided a

disc containing the folio to people who joined at

the door. Henry will have to confirm. I’m not

sure what CC29 & 30 did. Printing is so

expensive, it’s much easier and cheaper to put a

digital copy on disc (PDF) than to actually print and bind (staple, whatever).

Just my 2 pence.

Sandy

At 08:35 PM 4/17/2013, you wrote:

>Thanks. That’s two for giving them to full weekend at the door.

>

>Michael

>

>On 2013-04-17 14:28, Trudy Leonard wrote:

> > We gave them to everyone with a full membership (and I mailed them,

> > along with the rest of the “at door” packet to anyone that didn’t make

> > it), and we still ended up with a bunch left over. I passed them out

> > to folks who asked for a copy at later cons. I think I still have some

> > and sent a bunch to recycling.

> >

> > Trudy

>

>

International Costumers’ Guild Archivist

http://www.costume.org/gallery2/main.php

“Those Who Fail to Learn History

Are Doomed to Repeat It;

Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly –

Why They Are Simply Doomed.”

Achemdro’hm

“The Illusion of Historical Fact”

— C. Y. 4971

Andromeda

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