runacc.costume-con.org

Not ringing any bells, for me.
Marty

On 6/6/2011 8:00 AM, Betsy Delaney wrote:
>
> I have a totally vague recollection that Marty might have a copy if you
> don’t, Pierre. Trouble is, I don’t recall whether I saw the
> presentation and
> visualized it or saw it for real. Such a LONG time ago!
>
> -b
>
> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Pierre & Sandy Pettinger <
> costumrs@radiks.net <mailto:costumrs%40radiks.net>> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > At 01:31 PM 6/4/2011, you wrote:
> >
> > I haven’t noticed it in the videos Carl has brought me, but I haven’t
> > been through everything yet. We should probably try to find it.
> >
> > Pierre
> >
> > —
> —
> —
> Betsy Marks Delaney
>
> http://www.hawkeswood.com/
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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Ok, so let’s see if I remember this right: Something to do with shovels and
flashlights, or am I remembering this wrong? Was it a CC presentation or
TackyCon? (…which requires a separate explanation all on its own.)

B

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Martin Gear <MartinGear@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>
> Not ringing any bells, for me.
> Marty
>
>
> On 6/6/2011 8:00 AM, Betsy Delaney wrote:
> >
> > I have a totally vague recollection that Marty might have a copy if you
> > don’t, Pierre. Trouble is, I don’t recall whether I saw the
> > presentation and
> > visualized it or saw it for real. Such a LONG time ago!
> >
> > -b
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Pierre & Sandy Pettinger <
> > costumrs@radiks.net <mailto:costumrs%40radiks.net>> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 01:31 PM 6/4/2011, you wrote:
> > >
> > > I haven’t noticed it in the videos Carl has brought me, but I haven’t
> > > been through everything yet. We should probably try to find it.
> > >
> > > Pierre
> > >
> > > —
> > —
> > —
> > Betsy Marks Delaney
> >
> > http://www.hawkeswood.com/
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

—
—
—
Betsy Marks Delaney

http://www.hawkeswood.com/

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And around here (location of CC30), I think “Friendly Native Guide” would be interpreted more as “I live in this town, can I help you find something?”

— In runacc@yahoogroups.com, osierhenry@… wrote:
>
> In a message dated 6/4/2011 5:41:07 PM Central Daylight Time,
> von_drago@… writes:
> > 2. Welcome Wagon – this one isn’t as finalized yet but basically it would
> > consist of a team of Native Guides who would guide newbies around the con,
> > explain things to them, look for lost souls, introduce the new folks to
> > the vets, etc.
> >
>
> I like this idea!
>
> > Haven’t got all the details together yet but the concept is to provide
> > new people with some folks who can help them find where they need to be,
> > explain jokes &references they don’t get, introduce them to folks with similar
> > interests… just help them wherever they can.
> > Kind of like a wandering den mom – a “Con Mom”.
>
> Good idea. Question: In this area, Con Mom is the person that is on staff
> that makes sure other staffers are alright, as in have eaten, slept, gone to
> the bathroom, etc. So, might another name be better, such as Friendly Native
> Guide? Just a question and an idea.
>
> Henry
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Not sold on any “title” yet – looking for suggestions since we want it to be useful & clear.

Henry – “Con Mom” like Den Mom was my thought, any other term that might imply that?
Marge (Or is ti Margie, which do you prefer?) – “Native Guide” does seem a little more like a geographic local when I’m trying to imply familiarity with the con not neccessarily the area. Although it’d be great if at least one of these folks was local so we could help with shopping, sight-seeing & eating suggestions as well. What else infers – “I know what I’m doing at this con”?

Nora

— On Mon, 6/6/11, Margie <marg1066@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Margie <marg1066@gmail.com>
Subject: [runacc] Newbie stuff (Re: Misperceptions and questions)
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 10:08 AM

And around here (location of CC30), I think “Friendly Native Guide” would be interpreted more as “I live in this town, can I help you find something?”

— In runacc@yahoogroups.com, osierhenry@… wrote:
>
> In a message dated 6/4/2011 5:41:07 PM Central Daylight Time,
> von_drago@… writes:
> > 2. Welcome Wagon – this one isn’t as finalized yet but basically it would
> > consist of a team of Native Guides who would guide newbies around the con,
> > explain things to them, look for lost souls, introduce the new folks to
> > the vets, etc.
> >
>
> I like this idea!
>
> > Haven’t got all the details together yet but the concept is to provide
> > new people with some folks who can help them find where they need to be,
> > explain jokes &references they don’t get, introduce them to folks with similar
> > interests… just help them wherever they can.
> > Kind of like a wandering den mom – a “Con Mom”.
>
> Good idea. Question: In this area, Con Mom is the person that is on staff
> that makes sure other staffers are alright, as in have eaten, slept, gone to
> the bathroom, etc. So, might another name be better, such as Friendly Native
> Guide? Just a question and an idea.
>
> Henry

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Combine them – Con Guide

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Bruce & Nora Mai <casamai@sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> Not sold on any “title” yet – looking for suggestions since we want it to
> be useful & clear.
>
> Henry – “Con Mom” like Den Mom was my thought, any other term that might
> imply that?
> Marge (Or is ti Margie, which do you prefer?) – “Native Guide” does seem a
> little more like a geographic local when I’m trying to imply familiarity
> with the con not neccessarily the area. Although it’d be great if at least
> one of these folks was local so we could help with shopping, sight-seeing &
> eating suggestions as well. What else infers – “I know what I’m doing at
> this con”?
>
> Nora
>
> — On Mon, 6/6/11, Margie <marg1066@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Margie <marg1066@gmail.com>
> Subject: [runacc] Newbie stuff (Re: Misperceptions and questions)
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 10:08 AM
>
>
> And around here (location of CC30), I think “Friendly Native Guide” would
> be interpreted more as “I live in this town, can I help you find something?”
>
>
> — In runacc@yahoogroups.com, osierhenry@… wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 6/4/2011 5:41:07 PM Central Daylight Time,
> > von_drago@… writes:
> > > 2. Welcome Wagon – this one isn’t as finalized yet but basically it
> would
> > > consist of a team of Native Guides who would guide newbies around the
> con,
> > > explain things to them, look for lost souls, introduce the new folks to
> > > the vets, etc.
> > >
> >
> > I like this idea!
> >
> > > Haven’t got all the details together yet but the concept is to provide
> > > new people with some folks who can help them find where they need to
> be,
> > > explain jokes &references they don’t get, introduce them to folks with
> similar
> > > interests… just help them wherever they can.
> > > Kind of like a wandering den mom – a “Con Mom”.
> >
> > Good idea. Question: In this area, Con Mom is the person that is on staff
> > that makes sure other staffers are alright, as in have eaten, slept, gone
> to
> > the bathroom, etc. So, might another name be better, such as Friendly
> Native
> > Guide? Just a question and an idea.
> >
> > Henry
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ————————————
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/Yahoo!
> Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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Nah. Too logical ;P
Actually, that’s the best idea I’ve seen so far. Thanks, Aurora!

Elaine
CC 30 Comfy Chair

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: auroraceleste@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 11:17:11 -0400
Subject: Re: [runacc] Newbie stuff (Re: Misperceptions and questions)

Combine them – Con Guide

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Bruce & Nora Mai <casamai@sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> Not sold on any “title” yet – looking for suggestions since we want it to
> be useful & clear.
>
> Henry – “Con Mom” like Den Mom was my thought, any other term that might
> imply that?
> Marge (Or is ti Margie, which do you prefer?) – “Native Guide” does seem a
> little more like a geographic local when I’m trying to imply familiarity
> with the con not neccessarily the area. Although it’d be great if at least
> one of these folks was local so we could help with shopping, sight-seeing &
> eating suggestions as well. What else infers – “I know what I’m doing at
> this con”?
>
> Nora
>
> — On Mon, 6/6/11, Margie <marg1066@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Margie <marg1066@gmail.com>
> Subject: [runacc] Newbie stuff (Re: Misperceptions and questions)
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 10:08 AM
>
>
> And around here (location of CC30), I think “Friendly Native Guide” would
> be interpreted more as “I live in this town, can I help you find something?”
>
>
> — In runacc@yahoogroups.com, osierhenry@… wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 6/4/2011 5:41:07 PM Central Daylight Time,
> > von_drago@… writes:
> > > 2. Welcome Wagon – this one isn’t as finalized yet but basically it
> would
> > > consist of a team of Native Guides who would guide newbies around the
> con,
> > > explain things to them, look for lost souls, introduce the new folks to
> > > the vets, etc.
> > >
> >
> > I like this idea!
> >
> > > Haven’t got all the details together yet but the concept is to provide
> > > new people with some folks who can help them find where they need to
> be,
> > > explain jokes &references they don’t get, introduce them to folks with
> similar
> > > interests… just help them wherever they can.
> > > Kind of like a wandering den mom – a “Con Mom”.
> >
> > Good idea. Question: In this area, Con Mom is the person that is on staff
> > that makes sure other staffers are alright, as in have eaten, slept, gone
> to
> > the bathroom, etc. So, might another name be better, such as Friendly
> Native
> > Guide? Just a question and an idea.
> >
> > Henry
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ————————————
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/Yahoo!
> Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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Actually, Betsy, it was a “telethon,” called “The Fish Fry,” with D. Jeanette Holloman as the costume-deprived recipient of all of our attention, and more fish puns than anyone needs. I was the well known TV interviewer, Baba Wawa! We even had a news stream (Loooooong roll of paper on 2 rolling pins) running across the bottom of the scene throughout. Oh, and we announced a serious sequin recall, with a lot # about a bazillion digits long, to be seen on the back of each sequin!
and there was a song :/
Carl filmed it, and he must still have it. I’ll check.

Elaine
Nil significat nisi oscillat!

> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> From: aramintamd@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:38:57 -0400
> Subject: Re: [runacc] Re: Post CC info for committees – suggestions for newcomer inclusion
>
> Ok, so let’s see if I remember this right: Something to do with shovels and
> flashlights, or am I remembering this wrong? Was it a CC presentation or
> TackyCon? (…which requires a separate explanation all on its own.)
>
> B
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Martin Gear <MartinGear@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Not ringing any bells, for me.
> > Marty
> >
> >
> > On 6/6/2011 8:00 AM, Betsy Delaney wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a totally vague recollection that Marty might have a copy if you
> > > don’t, Pierre. Trouble is, I don’t recall whether I saw the
> > > presentation and
> > > visualized it or saw it for real. Such a LONG time ago!
> > >
> > > -b
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Pierre & Sandy Pettinger <
> > > costumrs@radiks.net <mailto:costumrs%40radiks.net>> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 01:31 PM 6/4/2011, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I haven’t noticed it in the videos Carl has brought me, but I haven’t
> > > > been through everything yet. We should probably try to find it.
> > > >
> > > > Pierre
> > > >
> > > > —
> > > —
> > > —
> > > Betsy Marks Delaney
> > >
> > > http://www.hawkeswood.com/
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> —
> —
> —
> Betsy Marks Delaney
>
> http://www.hawkeswood.com/
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ————————————
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

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Ok, I don’t remember this at all (not even hearing about it).

Thanks!

-b

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Elaine Mami <ecmami@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>
> Actually, Betsy, it was a “telethon,” called “The Fish Fry,” with D.
> Jeanette Holloman as the costume-deprived recipient of all of our attention,
> and more fish puns than anyone needs. I was the well known TV interviewer,
> Baba Wawa! We even had a news stream (Loooooong roll of paper on 2 rolling
> pins) running across the bottom of the scene throughout. Oh, and we
> announced a serious sequin recall, with a lot # about a bazillion digits
> long, to be seen on the back of each sequin!
> and there was a song :/
> Carl filmed it, and he must still have it. I’ll check.
>
> Elaine
> Nil significat nisi oscillat!
>
> —
—
—
Betsy Marks Delaney

http://www.hawkeswood.com/

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The only flashlights that I remember were from TackyCon, and by this
time, TackyCon is probably best left to the memories of those of us who
were there.
Marty

On 6/6/2011 10:38 AM, Betsy Delaney wrote:
> Ok, so let’s see if I remember this right: Something to do with shovels and
> flashlights, or am I remembering this wrong? Was it a CC presentation or
> TackyCon? (…which requires a separate explanation all on its own.)
>
> B
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Martin Gear<MartinGear@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Not ringing any bells, for me.
>> Marty
>>
>>
>> On 6/6/2011 8:00 AM, Betsy Delaney wrote:
>>> I have a totally vague recollection that Marty might have a copy if you
>>> don’t, Pierre. Trouble is, I don’t recall whether I saw the
>>> presentation and
>>> visualized it or saw it for real. Such a LONG time ago!
>>>
>>> -b
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Pierre& Sandy Pettinger<
>>> costumrs@radiks.net<mailto:costumrs%40radiks.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 01:31 PM 6/4/2011, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I haven’t noticed it in the videos Carl has brought me, but I haven’t
>>>> been through everything yet. We should probably try to find it.
>>>>
>>>> Pierre
>>>>
>>>> —
>>> —
>>> —
>>> Betsy Marks Delaney
>>>
>>> http://www.hawkeswood.com/
>>>
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>
>

“CostumeCon Old Fart”???
Marty (who are one)

On 6/6/2011 11:14 AM, Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:
>
> <snip> I’m trying to imply familiarity with the con not neccessarily
> the area. Although it’d be great if at least one of these folks was
> local so we could help with shopping, sight-seeing & eating
> suggestions as well. What else infers – “I know what I’m doing at this
> con”?
>
> Nora
>

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CostumeCon Know-It-All?

At any rate, we will have locals available to give all of that local info. There will be restaurant and shopping listings, along with their locations in relation to the con. That much we can promise.

What to call the Smart @$$ Old Pharts is another animal entirely.

Elaine
Whose brain is currently OTL

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: MartinGear@comcast.net
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 15:08:38 -0400
Subject: Re: [runacc] Newbie stuff (Re: Misperceptions and questions)

“CostumeCon Old Fart”???
Marty (who are one)

On 6/6/2011 11:14 AM, Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:
>
> <snip> I’m trying to imply familiarity with the con not neccessarily
> the area. Although it’d be great if at least one of these folks was
> local so we could help with shopping, sight-seeing & eating
> suggestions as well. What else infers – “I know what I’m doing at this
> con”?
>
> Nora
>

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I know what I’m doing at this con!?! That’s a pretty high bar that would exclude me for most CCs.

Byron 🙂

On Jun 6, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:

> Not sold on any “title” yet – looking for suggestions since we want it to be useful & clear.
>
> Henry – “Con Mom” like Den Mom was my thought, any other term that might imply that?
> Marge (Or is ti Margie, which do you prefer?) – “Native Guide” does seem a little more like a geographic local when I’m trying to imply familiarity with the con not neccessarily the area. Although it’d be great if at least one of these folks was local so we could help with shopping, sight-seeing & eating suggestions as well. What else infers – “I know what I’m doing at this con”?
>
> Nora
>
> — On Mon, 6/6/11, Margie <marg1066@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Margie <marg1066@gmail.com>
> Subject: [runacc] Newbie stuff (Re: Misperceptions and questions)
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 10:08 AM
>
> And around here (location of CC30), I think “Friendly Native Guide” would be interpreted more as “I live in this town, can I help you find something?”
>
> — In runacc@yahoogroups.com, osierhenry@… wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 6/4/2011 5:41:07 PM Central Daylight Time,
> > von_drago@… writes:
> > > 2. Welcome Wagon – this one isn’t as finalized yet but basically it would
> > > consist of a team of Native Guides who would guide newbies around the con,
> > > explain things to them, look for lost souls, introduce the new folks to
> > > the vets, etc.
> > >
> >
> > I like this idea!
> >
> > > Haven’t got all the details together yet but the concept is to provide
> > > new people with some folks who can help them find where they need to be,
> > > explain jokes &references they don’t get, introduce them to folks with similar
> > > interests… just help them wherever they can.
> > > Kind of like a wandering den mom – a “Con Mom”.
> >
> > Good idea. Question: In this area, Con Mom is the person that is on staff
> > that makes sure other staffers are alright, as in have eaten, slept, gone to
> > the bathroom, etc. So, might another name be better, such as Friendly Native
> > Guide? Just a question and an idea.
> >
> > Henry
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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We have a copy of the VHS tape of TackyCon ’93.

Byron

On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Martin Gear wrote:

> The only flashlights that I remember were from TackyCon, and by this
> time, TackyCon is probably best left to the memories of those of us who
> were there.
> Marty
>
> On 6/6/2011 10:38 AM, Betsy Delaney wrote:
> > Ok, so let’s see if I remember this right: Something to do with shovels and
> > flashlights, or am I remembering this wrong? Was it a CC presentation or
> > TackyCon? (…which requires a separate explanation all on its own.)
> >
> > B
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Martin Gear<MartinGear@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Not ringing any bells, for me.
> >> Marty
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6/6/2011 8:00 AM, Betsy Delaney wrote:
> >>> I have a totally vague recollection that Marty might have a copy if you
> >>> don’t, Pierre. Trouble is, I don’t recall whether I saw the
> >>> presentation and
> >>> visualized it or saw it for real. Such a LONG time ago!
> >>>
> >>> -b
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Pierre& Sandy Pettinger<
> >>> costumrs@radiks.net<mailto:costumrs%40radiks.net>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> At 01:31 PM 6/4/2011, you wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I haven’t noticed it in the videos Carl has brought me, but I haven’t
> >>>> been through everything yet. We should probably try to find it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Pierre
> >>>>
> >>>> —
> >>> —
> >>> —
> >>> Betsy Marks Delaney
> >>>
> >>> http://www.hawkeswood.com/
> >>>
> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>>
> >>>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>

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That one, I like!

Byron

On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Martin Gear wrote:

> “CostumeCon Old Fart”???
> Marty (who are one)
>
> On 6/6/2011 11:14 AM, Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:
> >
> > <snip> I’m trying to imply familiarity with the con not neccessarily
> > the area. Although it’d be great if at least one of these folks was
> > local so we could help with shopping, sight-seeing & eating
> > suggestions as well. What else infers – “I know what I’m doing at this
> > con”?
> >
> > Nora
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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lol – I’d have to agree! “I know what I’m doing” is kind of a scary statement usually reserved for right before one does something that destroys half the city’s power grid.

Nora

— In runacc@yahoogroups.com, Byron Connell <byronpconnell@…> wrote:
>
> I know what I’m doing at this con!?! That’s a pretty high bar that would exclude me for most CCs.
>
> Byron 🙂
>
>
> On Jun 6, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:
>
> > Not sold on any “title” yet – looking for suggestions since we want it to be useful & clear.
> >
> > Henry – “Con Mom” like Den Mom was my thought, any other term that might imply that?
> > Marge (Or is ti Margie, which do you prefer?) – “Native Guide” does seem a little more like a geographic local when I’m trying to imply familiarity with the con not neccessarily the area. Although it’d be great if at least one of these folks was local so we could help with shopping, sight-seeing & eating suggestions as well. What else infers – “I know what I’m doing at this con”?
> >
> > Nora
> >
> > — On Mon, 6/6/11, Margie <marg1066@…> wrote:
> >
> > From: Margie <marg1066@…>
> > Subject: [runacc] Newbie stuff (Re: Misperceptions and questions)
> > To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 10:08 AM
> >
> > And around here (location of CC30), I think “Friendly Native Guide” would be interpreted more as “I live in this town, can I help you find something?”
> >
> > — In runacc@yahoogroups.com, osierhenry@ wrote:
> > >
> > > In a message dated 6/4/2011 5:41:07 PM Central Daylight Time,
> > > von_drago@ writes:
> > > > 2. Welcome Wagon – this one isn’t as finalized yet but basically it would
> > > > consist of a team of Native Guides who would guide newbies around the con,
> > > > explain things to them, look for lost souls, introduce the new folks to
> > > > the vets, etc.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I like this idea!
> > >
> > > > Haven’t got all the details together yet but the concept is to provide
> > > > new people with some folks who can help them find where they need to be,
> > > > explain jokes &references they don’t get, introduce them to folks with similar
> > > > interests… just help them wherever they can.
> > > > Kind of like a wandering den mom – a “Con Mom”.
> > >
> > > Good idea. Question: In this area, Con Mom is the person that is on staff
> > > that makes sure other staffers are alright, as in have eaten, slept, gone to
> > > the bathroom, etc. So, might another name be better, such as Friendly Native
> > > Guide? Just a question and an idea.
> > >
> > > Henry
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Depends on the Tackycon. I seem to recall there is one in the Archives here
(you might have given it to us), that might be the one you’re referring to.
I’ve not watched it, nor do I believe it’s been digitized yet.

Bruce

“Our Hobby – Our History”

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From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Martin Gear
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 2:06 PM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [runacc] Re: Post CC info for committees – suggestions for
newcomer inclusion

The only flashlights that I remember were from TackyCon, and by this
time, TackyCon is probably best left to the memories of those of us who
were there.
Marty

On 6/6/2011 10:38 AM, Betsy Delaney wrote:
> Ok, so let’s see if I remember this right: Something to do with shovels
and
> flashlights, or am I remembering this wrong? Was it a CC presentation or
> TackyCon? (…which requires a separate explanation all on its own.)
>
> B
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Martin Gear<MartinGear@comcast.net>
wrote:
>
>>
>> Not ringing any bells, for me.
>> Marty
>>
>>
>> On 6/6/2011 8:00 AM, Betsy Delaney wrote:
>>> I have a totally vague recollection that Marty might have a copy if you
>>> don’t, Pierre. Trouble is, I don’t recall whether I saw the
>>> presentation and
>>> visualized it or saw it for real. Such a LONG time ago!
>>>
>>> -b
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Pierre& Sandy Pettinger<
>>> costumrs@radiks.net<mailto:costumrs%40radiks.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 01:31 PM 6/4/2011, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I haven’t noticed it in the videos Carl has brought me, but I haven’t
>>>> been through everything yet. We should probably try to find it.
>>>>
>>>> Pierre
>>>>
>>>> —
>>> —
>>> —
>>> Betsy Marks Delaney
>>>
>>> http://www.hawkeswood.com/
>>>
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>>
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I like “Convention Guide” for ribbons.

As for my name — I love to try to clear this up, although it never holds for long.

My name is Margaret, but I also go by Margie & Marg. [NONE of these words has a “soft g” sound, like a J… all have the “hard g” sound.] Because Margie and Marg are unusual, and as such forgettable, if you can’t remember them, feel free to call me Margaret… cuz pretty much everyone knows how to say that.

I am never “Marge” — I hate that name, and saying it in front of me pretty much guarantees I will try to correct it. 🙂

All that said, good luck. 🙂

Btw, I was hopeful that once the “pronunciation” trail was blazed by Marg Helgenberger of CSI (and prior to that, China Beach), life as “Marg” would be easier. But while most people would recognize her face, they still don’t know her name. (drat)

— In runacc@yahoogroups.com, Bruce & Nora Mai <casamai@…> wrote:
>
> Marge (Or is ti Margie, which do you prefer?) – “Native Guide” does seem a little more like a geographic local when I’m trying to imply familiarity with the con not neccessarily the area. Although it’d be great if at least one of these folks was local so we could help with shopping, sight-seeing & eating suggestions as well. What else infers – “I know what I’m doing at this con”?
> �
> Nora
>
> — On Mon, 6/6/11, Margie <marg1066@…> wrote:
>
>
> From: Margie <marg1066@…>
> Subject: [runacc] Newbie stuff (Re: Misperceptions and questions)
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 10:08 AM
>
>
> And around here (location of CC30), I think “Friendly Native Guide” would be interpreted more as “I live in this town, can I help you find something?”
>
>
> — In runacc@yahoogroups.com, osierhenry@ wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 6/4/2011 5:41:07 PM Central Daylight Time,
> > von_drago@ writes:
> > > 2. Welcome Wagon – this one isn’t as finalized yet but basically it would
> > > consist of a team of Native Guides who would guide newbies around the con,
> > > explain things to them, look for lost souls, introduce the new folks to
> > > the vets, etc.
> > >
> >
> > I like this idea!
> >
> > > Haven’t got all the details together yet but the concept is to provide
> > > new people with some folks who can help them find where they need to be,
> > > explain jokes &references they don’t get, introduce them to folks with similar
> > > interests… just help them wherever they can.
> > > Kind of like a wandering den mom – a “Con Mom”.
> >
> > Good idea. Question: In this area, Con Mom is the person that is on staff
> > that makes sure other staffers are alright, as in have eaten, slept, gone to
> > the bathroom, etc. So, might another name be better, such as Friendly Native
> > Guide? Just a question and an idea.
> >
> > Henry
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Best laugh ALL morning!

-b

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Nora <von_drago@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> lol – I’d have to agree! “I know what I’m doing” is kind of a scary
> statement usually reserved for right before one does something that destroys
> half the city’s power grid.
>
> Nora
>
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There was also a Tackycon West, held at the rec center at Fran Evan’s
complex, as I recall. I came as the costumers’ superhero, SuperGlue. I
recall grossing out some annoying “V” fans by eating gummi worms with
quacamole.

I *don’t* know if there is video from its masquerade.

Kevin

On 6/7/2011 5:16 AM, Nora & Bruce Mai wrote:
>
> Depends on the Tackycon. I seem to recall there is one in the Archives
> here
> (you might have given it to us), that might be the one you’re
> referring to.
> I’ve not watched it, nor do I believe it’s been digitized yet.
>
> Bruce
>

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In a message dated 6/6/2011 10:14:28 AM Central Daylight Time,
casamai@sbcglobal.net writes:

> Not sold on any “title” yet – looking for suggestions since we want it to
> be useful &clear.
>
> “Native Guide” does seem a little more like a geographic local when I’m
> trying to imply familiarity with the con not neccessarily the area.
>
>
>

Ah! My brain says there is a name for that. I just can’t think of it. All I
can think of is the title the character Julie had on the Love Boat series.

I do think F.N.G.’s and Friendly Con Guides are both good ideas.

Henry

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In a message dated 6/6/2011 6:45:14 PM Central Daylight Time,
byronpconnell@gmail.com writes:

> I know what I’m doing at this con!?! That’s a pretty high bar that would
> exclude me for most CCs.

Byron,
You would be a great person for noobs to go to for guidance!
Henry

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Cruise Director – and that is one of the examples I was using when I was tossing around ideas.
Not sure that title would work. Or her alternative “Activities Director”.

Nora

— On Tue, 6/7/11, osierhenry@cs.com <osierhenry@cs.com> wrote:

From: osierhenry@cs.com <osierhenry@cs.com>
Subject: Re: [runacc] Newbie stuff (Re: Misperceptions and questions)
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 3:40 PM

In a message dated 6/6/2011 10:14:28 AM Central Daylight Time,
casamai@sbcglobal.net writes:
> Not sold on any “title” yet – looking for suggestions since we want it to
> be useful &clear.
>
> “Native Guide” does seem a little more like a geographic local when I’m
> trying to imply familiarity with the con not neccessarily the area.
>
>
>
Ah! My brain says there is a name for that. I just can’t think of it. All I
can think of is the title the character Julie had on the Love Boat series.

I do think F.N.G.’s and Friendly Con Guides are both good ideas.

Henry

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In a message dated 6/7/2011 8:50:32 AM Central Daylight Time,
marg1066@gmail.com writes:

> I like “Convention Guide” for ribbons.
>

That would work! And, if a quantity would be made, CC’s from next year
forward could keep using them. “If you need general assistance at the con, look
for someone with an orange ribbon that says Con Guide.” As an example.

> As for my name — I love to try to clear this up, although it never holds
> for long.
>
> My name is Margaret, but I also go by Margie &Marg.
>
>
>

That will cause a bit of confusion. Mind if we call you Bruce, just to make
it easy? ;p

Henry

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Hello!
While at CC this year, I thought that it might be handy for those of
us who have run or worked a CC before to make a list of Good Advice things.
Like “Feed your Judges and Tech Crew.”
I would be glad to compile the list from everyone’s input.
Let me know what you think.
Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I would appreciate that! Although we have already been compiling something of the sort, I’m certain we will miss something.
#1 Make sure the chair is fed and watered! And gets a few minutes’ rest each day ;P

We are already planning on feeding tech, too, in the con suite.

Elaine
Nil significat nisi oscillat!

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: osierhenry@cs.com
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:13:42 -0400
Subject: [runacc] Another idea while our brains are working

Hello!
While at CC this year, I thought that it might be handy for those of
us who have run or worked a CC before to make a list of Good Advice things.
Like “Feed your Judges and Tech Crew.”
I would be glad to compile the list from everyone’s input.
Let me know what you think.
Henry

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and make sure the mc is considered part of tech. Anime north is the only times I
as mc have ever gotten dinner/snacks or anything in the midst of all of it,
especially at cc, the mc works almost as long as tech, and waaay longer than the
judges
Gravely MacCabre
http://www.castleblood.com
http://facebook.com/gravelymaccabre
http://etsy.com/shops/gravelymaccabre

tv show clip samples at
http://www.veoh.com/channels/castleblood

________________________________
From: Elaine Mami <ecmami@hotmail.com>
To: Betsy D <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, June 7, 2011 5:20:48 PM
Subject: RE: [runacc] Another idea while our brains are working

I would appreciate that!  Although we have already been compiling something of
the sort, I’m certain we will miss something.
#1  Make sure the chair is fed and watered!  And gets a few minutes’ rest each
day ;P

We are already planning on feeding tech, too, in the con suite.

Elaine
Nil significat nisi oscillat!

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: osierhenry@cs.com
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:13:42 -0400
Subject: [runacc] Another idea while our brains are working

Hello!
While at CC this year, I thought that it might be handy for those of
us who have run or worked a CC before to make a list of Good Advice things.
Like “Feed your Judges and Tech Crew.”
I would be glad to compile the list from everyone’s input.
Let me know what you think.
Henry

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The idea has always been to use them again. If we get the idea solid then it can just continue from con to con with a little pamphlet of FAQs & newbie ribbons.
If it becomes a standarad thing then folks (even not newbies) will get the idea of what to look for.
Plus we can promote that to our newbies as they come in.

Nora

— On Tue, 6/7/11, osierhenry@cs.com <osierhenry@cs.com> wrote:

From: osierhenry@cs.com <osierhenry@cs.com>
Subject: Re: [runacc] Newbie stuff (Re: Misperceptions and questions)
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 4:09 PM

That would work! And, if a quantity would be made, CC’s from next year
forward could keep using them. “If you need general assistance at the con, look
for someone with an orange ribbon that says Con Guide.” As an example.

Henry

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Absolutely! As MC, I have often had to scramble to grab something to eat. Not good. The Judges, IMO, can feed themselves – they have time – but will need something like green room nibbles and water during deliberations.

Elaine
Nil significat nisi oscillat!

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: gravelymac@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:31:47 -0700
Subject: Re: [runacc] Another idea while our brains are working

and make sure the mc is considered part of tech. Anime north is the only times I
as mc have ever gotten dinner/snacks or anything in the midst of all of it,
especially at cc, the mc works almost as long as tech, and waaay longer than the
judges
Gravely MacCabre
http://www.castleblood.com
http://facebook.com/gravelymaccabre
http://etsy.com/shops/gravelymaccabre

tv show clip samples at
http://www.veoh.com/channels/castleblood

________________________________
From: Elaine Mami <ecmami@hotmail.com>
To: Betsy D <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, June 7, 2011 5:20:48 PM
Subject: RE: [runacc] Another idea while our brains are working

I would appreciate that! Although we have already been compiling something of
the sort, I’m certain we will miss something.
#1 Make sure the chair is fed and watered! And gets a few minutes’ rest each
day ;P

We are already planning on feeding tech, too, in the con suite.

Elaine
Nil significat nisi oscillat!

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: osierhenry@cs.com
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:13:42 -0400
Subject: [runacc] Another idea while our brains are working

Hello!
While at CC this year, I thought that it might be handy for those of
us who have run or worked a CC before to make a list of Good Advice things.
Like “Feed your Judges and Tech Crew.”
I would be glad to compile the list from everyone’s input.
Let me know what you think.
Henry

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Absolutely! As MC, I have often had to scramble to grab something to eat. Not good. The Judges, IMO, can feed themselves – they have time – but will need something like green room nibbles and water during deliberations.

Elaine
Nil significat nisi oscillat!

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: gravelymac@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:31:47 -0700
Subject: Re: [runacc] Another idea while our brains are working

and make sure the mc is considered part of tech. Anime north is the only times I
as mc have ever gotten dinner/snacks or anything in the midst of all of it,
especially at cc, the mc works almost as long as tech, and waaay longer than the
judges
Gravely MacCabre
http://www.castleblood.com
http://facebook.com/gravelymaccabre
http://etsy.com/shops/gravelymaccabre

tv show clip samples at
http://www.veoh.com/channels/castleblood

________________________________
From: Elaine Mami <ecmami@hotmail.com>
To: Betsy D <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, June 7, 2011 5:20:48 PM
Subject: RE: [runacc] Another idea while our brains are working

I would appreciate that! Although we have already been compiling something of
the sort, I’m certain we will miss something.
#1 Make sure the chair is fed and watered! And gets a few minutes’ rest each
day ;P

We are already planning on feeding tech, too, in the con suite.

Elaine
Nil significat nisi oscillat!

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: osierhenry@cs.com
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:13:42 -0400
Subject: [runacc] Another idea while our brains are working

Hello!
While at CC this year, I thought that it might be handy for those of
us who have run or worked a CC before to make a list of Good Advice things.
Like “Feed your Judges and Tech Crew.”
I would be glad to compile the list from everyone’s input.
Let me know what you think.
Henry

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Sure. It’s a good idea.

Item #1: Check the stage for safety!

Byron

On Jun 7, 2011, at 5:13 PM, osierhenry@cs.com wrote:

> Hello!
> While at CC this year, I thought that it might be handy for those of
> us who have run or worked a CC before to make a list of Good Advice things.
> Like “Feed your Judges and Tech Crew.”
> I would be glad to compile the list from everyone’s input.
> Let me know what you think.
> Henry
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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No! You don’t want the judges to have food and water during their deliberations. You want them to be prompt.

On a more serious note, I use dinner before the show as a final opportunity to brief the judges.

Byron

On Jun 7, 2011, at 5:40 PM, Elaine Mami wrote:

>
> Absolutely! As MC, I have often had to scramble to grab something to eat. Not good. The Judges, IMO, can feed themselves – they have time – but will need something like green room nibbles and water during deliberations.
>
> Elaine
> Nil significat nisi oscillat!
>
>
>
>
>
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> From: gravelymac@yahoo.com
> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:31:47 -0700
> Subject: Re: [runacc] Another idea while our brains are working
>
>
>
>
>
>
> and make sure the mc is considered part of tech. Anime north is the only times I
> as mc have ever gotten dinner/snacks or anything in the midst of all of it,
> especially at cc, the mc works almost as long as tech, and waaay longer than the
> judges
> Gravely MacCabre
> http://www.castleblood.com
> http://facebook.com/gravelymaccabre
> http://etsy.com/shops/gravelymaccabre
>
> tv show clip samples at
> http://www.veoh.com/channels/castleblood
>
> ________________________________
> From: Elaine Mami <ecmami@hotmail.com>
> To: Betsy D <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tue, June 7, 2011 5:20:48 PM
> Subject: RE: [runacc] Another idea while our brains are working
>
> I would appreciate that! Although we have already been compiling something of
> the sort, I’m certain we will miss something.
> #1 Make sure the chair is fed and watered! And gets a few minutes’ rest each
> day ;P
>
> We are already planning on feeding tech, too, in the con suite.
>
> Elaine
> Nil significat nisi oscillat!
>
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> From: osierhenry@cs.com
> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:13:42 -0400
> Subject: [runacc] Another idea while our brains are working
>
>
>
> Hello!
> While at CC this year, I thought that it might be handy for those of
> us who have run or worked a CC before to make a list of Good Advice things.
> Like “Feed your Judges and Tech Crew.”
> I would be glad to compile the list from everyone’s input.
> Let me know what you think.
> Henry
>
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>
>
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In my records, I show that I digitized that, although, for some reason, I
don’t show that I made copies. Did I give you a disk?

Bruce

From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Byron Connell
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 6:54 PM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [runacc] Re: Post CC info for committees – suggestions for
newcomer inclusion

We have a copy of the VHS tape of TackyCon ’93.

Byron

On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Martin Gear wrote:

> The only flashlights that I remember were from TackyCon, and by this
> time, TackyCon is probably best left to the memories of those of us who
> were there.
> Marty
>
> On 6/6/2011 10:38 AM, Betsy Delaney wrote:
> > Ok, so let’s see if I remember this right: Something to do with shovels
and
> > flashlights, or am I remembering this wrong? Was it a CC presentation or
> > TackyCon? (…which requires a separate explanation all on its own.)
> >
> > B
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Martin Gear<MartinGear@comcast.net>
wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Not ringing any bells, for me.
> >> Marty
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6/6/2011 8:00 AM, Betsy Delaney wrote:
> >>> I have a totally vague recollection that Marty might have a copy if
you
> >>> don’t, Pierre. Trouble is, I don’t recall whether I saw the
> >>> presentation and
> >>> visualized it or saw it for real. Such a LONG time ago!
> >>>
> >>> -b
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Pierre& Sandy Pettinger<
> >>> costumrs@radiks.net<mailto:costumrs%40radiks.net>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> At 01:31 PM 6/4/2011, you wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I haven’t noticed it in the videos Carl has brought me, but I haven’t
> >>>> been through everything yet. We should probably try to find it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Pierre
> >>>>
> >>>> —
> >>> —
> >>> —
> >>> Betsy Marks Delaney
> >>>
> >>> http://www.hawkeswood.com/
> >>>
> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>>
> >>>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>

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Having survived many Balticons thanks to someone thrusting a sandwich at me as I left the tech rehearsal to get into my own costume in time to MC I agree completely with Ricky’s comment.

Marty

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Subject: Re: [runacc] Another idea while our brains are working

and make sure the mc is considered part of tech. Anime north is the only times I

as mc have ever gotten dinner/snacks or anything in the midst of all of it,

especially at cc, the mc works almost as long as tech, and waaay longer than the

judges

�Gravely MacCabre

http://www.castleblood.com

http://facebook.com/gravelymaccabre

http://etsy.com/shops/gravelymaccabre

 

tv show clip samples at

http://www.veoh.com/channels/castleblood

 

 

 

________________________________

From: Elaine Mami <ecmami@hotmail.com>

To: Betsy D <runacc@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Tue, June 7, 2011 5:20:48 PM

Subject: RE: [runacc] Another idea while our brains are working

 

I would appreciate that!� Although we have already been compiling something of

the sort, I’m certain we will miss something.

#1� Make sure the chair is fed and watered!� And gets a few minutes’ rest each

day ;P

We are already planning on feeding tech, too, in the con suite.

Elaine

Nil significat nisi oscillat!

 

 

 

 

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com

From: osierhenry@cs.com

Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:13:42 -0400

Subject: [runacc] Another idea while our brains are working

 

�

 

 

Hello!

While at CC this year, I thought that it might be handy for those of

us who have run or worked a CC before to make a list of Good Advice things.

Like “Feed your Judges and Tech Crew.”

I would be glad to compile the list from everyone’s input.

Let me know what you think.

Henry

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How about: (with a superhero costume/cape in mind) Answer (Wo)Man?
or (with a steampunk periscope hat) the Eye-Spy Guy

Sorry, that’s what I get for asking hubby for his input. 😉

And since Marg is busy, I’ll play interpreter & say it’s Marg with a
hard ‘g’, like Margaret. (From a correction in a FB post way back when I
didn’t know)

~Elaine S.

In a message dated 6/7/2011 10:07:33 PM Central Daylight Time,
casamai@sbcglobal.net writes:

> Cruise Director – and that is one of the examples I was using when I was
> tossing around ideas.
> Not sure that title would work. Or her alternative “Activities Director”.
>
>
>

That was it!

Henry

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In a message dated 6/7/2011 7:29:20 PM Central Daylight Time,
byronpconnell@gmail.com writes:

> No! You don’t want the judges to have food and water during their
> deliberations. You want them to be prompt.
>
>
>

As a judge, I like to have some water during judging. And an opportunity to
run to the bathroom.

Henry

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Hi Bruce, Hi all,

Responding to the first question, personally I can’t forsee lowering the memberships,
perhaps instead give added value where possible. As an example I’d love to
lower the membership costs myself, but real estate here is so expensive the hotel
is going to cost big time. I am hoping to make the price justifiable in content.

I really was hoping I’d be able to attract someone to help with grant writing, and brining
in sponsors as well, but currently have nobody in that position so it may fall to me ultimately.

Furthermore as I pointed out, Cosutme-Con prices are in line with other specialty
conventions and conferences and I believe it’s uniqueness can easily justify the cost
if it is continually well run and full of quality content.

Regarding the second point. Some of the long-time con-goers are “elitist”, or at least demonstrate those attitudes.
The question is what are the rest of us going to do about it?

I believe you are correct that the initiatives we’re already talking about will be the beginning of solving some
of these problems.

Actively discussing and planning to start an outreach program to welcome in new members to costume-con
and following thru by having con ambassadors on site will be a big start.

I remember when we first attended costume-con for the first time, we had mostly positive experiences with people,
and a few very welcoming people, (such as yourself), who took the time to answer our questions and make sure we
were having a good time. I’ll admit that was a large factor in deciding to come back.

I’m hoping for CC-32 by getting a large number of younger costuming locals involved in the con-com and running events from the various other fandoms,
anime (cosplayers, lolitas, dollers, kimono enthusiasts), furry (fursuiters), sci-fi (steampunks, cyberpunks, media recreationists), gaming, (larpers, warhammer costumers),
scadians, etc, it will help make people who are new to costume con, feel more comfortable. I think seeing friendly faces from their local conventions will
make costume con seem less daunting. Of course this isn’t a fix for every costume con, but hopefully integrating new people from different arenas to act as friendly faces
will be helpful.

We already know it works, because Maral and I were able to convince a few people from Quebec to come at CC27, and then more from Ontario for CC28, and more again from both provinces for CC29. But it was again the friendly other people from CC who made the kids love it and want to come back. Admittedly rare bad attitudes and experiences with a few long time cc members with nasty attitudes have coloured this most recent CC experience for some, but the overwhelming welcome you all give is what will keep people coming back. 🙂

By the way, I’m using “Con Ambassadors” and “Friendly Faces” for the Toronto CC instead of native guide, (which will be for Torontonians who can give directons or will be leading tours), so if anybody wants to pinch either of these, feel free of course. 🙂

~Dawn

So – first question, kind of repeating what I said earlier in response to

Dawn: since the FFF will no longer be one of the major expenses the

committees have to worry about, will that allow them to somewhat lower

memberships? That may not be realistic. How do you promote the value of

CC, knowledge-wise, and single focus (all-costumes, all the time) to be

worth the cost?

Another perception that still seems to come up is that somehow the long-time

con-goers are “elitist”. This notion has also been a bane to the ICG over

the years. Some of this perception is the whole shyness thing of the vets,

where newcomers think no one wants to talk to them. Can we do anything

about that? Maybe the initiatives CC30 and 32 are working on might be the

answer.

Bruce

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The judges can have as much water as they like but NO bathroom.
Speeds up the judging process.

Nora

— In runacc@yahoogroups.com, osierhenry@… wrote:
>
> In a message dated 6/7/2011 7:29:20 PM Central Daylight Time,
> byronpconnell@… writes:
> > No! You don’t want the judges to have food and water during their
> > deliberations. You want them to be prompt.
> >
> >
> >
> As a judge, I like to have some water during judging. And an opportunity to
> run to the bathroom.
>
> Henry
>
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>

Try that on me and I’ll just use a water glass as an emergency
receptacle. You Have Been Warned.

But seriously — if the judges have been chosen carefully and the clerk
empowered to be a vocal timekeeper, they should be able to keep
personalities out of it and come back in the allotted time.

Kevin

On 6/8/2011 4:35 PM, Nora wrote:
>
> The judges can have as much water as they like but NO bathroom.
> Speeds up the judging process.
>
> Nora
>

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Cstumers with personalities? Shirley you jest!!

Elaine
Nil significat nisi oscillat!

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: chair@cc26.org
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 17:20:11 -0700
Subject: Re: [runacc] Re: Another idea while our brains are working

Try that on me and I’ll just use a water glass as an emergency
receptacle. You Have Been Warned.

But seriously — if the judges have been chosen carefully and the clerk
empowered to be a vocal timekeeper, they should be able to keep
personalities out of it and come back in the allotted time.

Kevin

On 6/8/2011 4:35 PM, Nora wrote:
>
> The judges can have as much water as they like but NO bathroom.
> Speeds up the judging process.
>
> Nora
>

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All together now, “…and don’t call me Shirley!”

On 6/8/2011 8:28 PM, Elaine Mami wrote:
> Cstumers with personalities? Shirley you jest!!
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> Elaine
> Nil significat nisi oscillat!
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> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> From: chair@cc26.org
> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 17:20:11 -0700
> Subject: Re: [runacc] Re: Another idea while our brains are working
>
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>
>
>
> Try that on me and I’ll just use a water glass as an emergency
> receptacle. You Have Been Warned.
>
> But seriously — if the judges have been chosen carefully and the clerk
> empowered to be a vocal timekeeper, they should be able to keep
> personalities out of it and come back in the allotted time.
>
> Kevin
>
> On 6/8/2011 4:35 PM, Nora wrote:
>> The judges can have as much water as they like but NO bathroom.
>> Speeds up the judging process.
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>> Nora
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At 12:28 PM 6/7/2011, you wrote:

And a couple of Tackycon Mid-Wests as well.

Pierre

>
>
>There was also a Tackycon West, held at the rec center at Fran Evan’s
>complex, as I recall. I came as the costumers’ superhero, SuperGlue. I
>recall grossing out some annoying “V” fans by eating gummi worms with
>quacamole.
>
>I *don’t* know if there is video from its masquerade.
>
>Kevin
>
>On 6/7/2011 5:16 AM, Nora & Bruce Mai wrote:
> >
> > Depends on the Tackycon. I seem to recall there is one in the Archives
> > here
> > (you might have given it to us), that might be the one you’re
> > referring to.
> > I’ve not watched it, nor do I believe it’s been digitized yet.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
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International Costumers’ Guild Archivist

http://www.costume.org/gallery2/main.php

“Those Who Fail to Learn History
Are Doomed to Repeat It;
Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly –
Why They Are Simply Doomed.”

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“The Illusion of Historical Fact”
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Andromeda

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Hi All,

I’m working on the expectations outline for CC32 and I want to check against previous Costume Cons. If you could help by answering
a few questions, (and giving personal observations of what worked and what didn’t if you feel they’ll be helpful), I will be very appreciative.
I have ideas of how I would like things to run, but having what has gone before/what is expected at a Costume Con as a guideline will be very helpful.
I know what I’ve seen and experienced by my own observation but I’d like do draw on the experiences of others particularly those who
have done it before.
Thank you. Cheers! 🙂 ~Dawn

What day did you take possession of your function rooms at the hotel? What day/time did your dealers set up?What day/time did your dealers tare down?
What time did your exhibits rooms set up?
What day/time did you start taring down
How early did your consuite open?Programming during the masquerades, yes/no?Tours, better on one day? or on either end of the regular convention weekend?More to come

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Dawn –
Most of this applies to CC’s 3; 9; 15; and 27. (Yes, there is a reason
why we didn’t do 21. You can ask Ricky for the ugly details.)
1- What day did you take possession of your function rooms at the hotel?
What day/time did your dealers set up?What day/time did your dealers
tare down?

I moved into the Hotels Thursday before the convention. (Wednesday for
CC-27) Checked to make certain that the function rooms with the
exception of the “Main Tent” were set up and ready for us at o’dark
early on Friday. Main Tent was cleared for start of set up Friday
morning. For CC-27, the hotel actually cleared and set up all except
for 4 function rooms Wednesday night so we were able to bring in some
Tech equipment on Thursday and began setting up our “Main Tent” on
Thursday afternoon. One of the lockable function rooms with outside
access was turned over to us on Thursday so that we could load and store
equipment. The remaining function rooms were set up Thursday night.
Dealers started setting up 8 AM on Friday morning. Goal was to have the
Dealers Room open by 4 PM on Friday.
For CC-3 Dealers Room closed on Sunday, all dealers out by Noon on
Monday. For the others, Dealers Room closed some time on Monday, Dealers
out by midnight Monday.

2- What time did your exhibits rooms set up?
CC-3 and CC-9 Exhibits were in the center of the Dealers Room. Exhibits
started setting up 8 AM on Friday. CC-15 if I remember correctly,
Exhibits were in a function room on an upper floor and set up started on
Thursday night when we got the keys. CC-27 Exhibits were in the
Function room that we had gotten early for storage, so partial set up
started on Thursday (panels assembled and put in place) and continued on
Friday as exhibitors arrived and stored equipment removed.

3- What day/time did you start taring down?
Started Monday morning. CC-3 finished Monday by noon. CC’s 9, 15, and
27 completed tear down by Monday midnight for all room.

4- How early did your consuite open?Programming during the masquerades,
yes/no?Tours, better on one day? or on either end of the regular
convention weekend?
Consuites opened between 4 and 5 PM on Friday
No programming during the masquerades
Tours mostly planned before the conventions; CC-27 I believe had tours
both before and after. I’m not sure if any were planned for Fridays.

That should get you started.
Marty

On 6/22/2011 3:11 PM, Kaijugal . wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I’m working on the expectations outline for CC32 and I want to check
> against previous Costume Cons. If you could help by answering
> a few questions, (and giving personal observations of what worked and
> what didn’t if you feel they’ll be helpful), I will be very appreciative.
> I have ideas of how I would like things to run, but having what has
> gone before/what is expected at a Costume Con as a guideline will be
> very helpful.
> I know what I’ve seen and experienced by my own observation but I’d
> like do draw on the experiences of others particularly those who
> have done it before.
> Thank you. Cheers! 🙂 ~Dawn
>
> What day did you take possession of your function rooms at the hotel?
> What day/time did your dealers set up?What day/time did your dealers
> tare down?
> What time did your exhibits rooms set up?
> What day/time did you start taring down
> How early did your consuite open?Programming during the masquerades,
> yes/no?Tours, better on one day? or on either end of the regular
> convention weekend?More to come
>
>
>
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CC16 & 25
Took possesion on Friday night for most function space, but some on Thursday night.
Dealers set up Friday morning both times, opened in the afternoon.
Dealer tear down on Monday afternoon for both, room was open until noon, maybe a little after.
Exhibits set up Thursday night at 16, Friday at 25 (I think). Took them down Monday afternoon.
Consuite opened on Thursday evening, closed during large events.
No programming during masqs.
Tours – mostly scheduled for Thursday, some on Friday. Some small stuff on Monday.

Nora

— In runacc@yahoogroups.com, “Kaijugal .” <kaijugal@…> wrote:
> What day did you take possession of your function rooms at the hotel? What day/time did your dealers set up?What day/time did your dealers tare down?
> What time did your exhibits rooms set up?
> What day/time did you start taring down
> How early did your consuite open?Programming during the masquerades, yes/no?Tours, better on one day? or on either end of the regular convention weekend?More to come

At 02:11 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote:

Nora has already answered for CC 25. for CC10 and 24

>What day did you take possession of your function rooms at the
>hotel? What day/time did your dealers set up?What day/time did your
>dealers tare down?

Thursday for CC10. IRRC, we got CC24’s space on Wednesday evening.

>What time did your exhibits rooms set up?

For 10 and 24 on Friday morning. Due to arrival times of attendees
you always will have things drifting in throughout the day.

>What day/time did you start tearing down

Monday at about 10 or so

>How early did your consuite open?

Thursday evening.

>Programming during the masquerades, yes/no?

Absolutely nothing scheduled against the masquerades or the Future
Fashion Show/Single Pattern. The latter could be scheduled during the
Friday Night Social PROVIDED that it is in the same room as the
Social and announced as a feature of the Social.

>Tours, better on one day? or on either end of the regular convention weekend?

Either side (actually both sides) work well so long as you announce
well in advance.

Pierre

>More to come

International Costumers’ Guild Archivist

http://www.costume.org/gallery2/main.php

“Those Who Fail to Learn History
Are Doomed to Repeat It;
Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly –
Why They Are Simply Doomed.”

Achemdro’hm
“The Illusion of Historical Fact”
— C. Y. 4971

Andromeda

For CC30 — Our PLANS are to:

Get Exhibits/Dolls/Quilts/Puppets Room set up Thursday night if possible.

Get Dealers’ Room set up Thursday night if possible. We have the Dealers’ Room contracted until midnight Monday night, so my hope is to have it open through Monday afternoon, if that seems reasonable.

ConSuite gets the room on Wednesday, so should be ready to roll by noon or so on Thursday.

I believe we are not scheduling any Programming opposite any of the Big Events, and ConSuite will be closed then too. Our Friday Night Social will also host the CC Runway competition and the Single Pattern Show.

We’ll have Tours scheduled before and after the convention, and at least one small one on Friday as well.

— In runacc@yahoogroups.com, Pierre & Sandy Pettinger <costumrs@…> wrote:
>
> At 02:11 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote:
>
> Nora has already answered for CC 25. for CC10 and 24
>
> >What day did you take possession of your function rooms at the
> >hotel? What day/time did your dealers set up?What day/time did your
> >dealers tare down?
>
> Thursday for CC10. IRRC, we got CC24’s space on Wednesday evening.
>
> >What time did your exhibits rooms set up?
>
> For 10 and 24 on Friday morning. Due to arrival times of attendees
> you always will have things drifting in throughout the day.
>
> >What day/time did you start tearing down
>
> Monday at about 10 or so
>
> >How early did your consuite open?
>
> Thursday evening.
>
> >Programming during the masquerades, yes/no?
>
> Absolutely nothing scheduled against the masquerades or the Future
> Fashion Show/Single Pattern. The latter could be scheduled during the
> Friday Night Social PROVIDED that it is in the same room as the
> Social and announced as a feature of the Social.
>
> >Tours, better on one day? or on either end of the regular convention weekend?
>
> Either side (actually both sides) work well so long as you announce
> well in advance.
>
> Pierre
>
> >More to come
>
> International Costumers’ Guild Archivist
>
> http://www.costume.org/gallery2/main.php
>
> “Those Who Fail to Learn History
> Are Doomed to Repeat It;
> Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly –
> Why They Are Simply Doomed.”
>
> Achemdro’hm
> “The Illusion of Historical Fact”
> — C. Y. 4971
>
> Andromeda
>

I’m trying to reassure my brother, so excuse the obvious. Next year I’m
bringing my niece to costume con. She’s a costume diva and loves it when
she gets new outfits, so we designed an entry for her. My mom will also be
attending to help herd her. My brother is worried, though, about her online
presence. He doesn’t really want her name attached to her face widely
online before she’s graduated kindergarten (understandable, imo). I’ve told
him to google all my pictures and see how they’re all labeled with “Aurora
Celeste” and not my real name, but he’s worried that for some reason her
legal name will need to be used because he signed a minor release form in
that name. I told him the announcer’s form is a totally separate form and
he shouldn’t be worried. Anyway, long story short, is there any possibility
that I’m wrong and a reason her legal name would need to be used either by
the announcer, on an entrant list, or in a gallery after the show? Also, is
there any way to find out if there will be additional forms at the con that
would need to be signed ahead of time like there was with Penny this year?

Thanks,

Aurora

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not unless we force trixyloup wolf to start entering as Silvie Lauren

If its the SF/F, you can be assured I will only say what she wants said

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— On Wed, 6/29/11, Aurora Celeste <auroraceleste@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Aurora Celeste <auroraceleste@gmail.com>
Subject: [runacc] Names on Photographs, etc
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 29, 2011, 12:19 AM

I’m trying to reassure my brother, so excuse the obvious. Next year I’m
bringing my niece to costume con. She’s a costume diva and loves it when
she gets new outfits, so we designed an entry for her. My mom will also be
attending to help herd her. My brother is worried, though, about her online
presence. He doesn’t really want her name attached to her face widely
online before she’s graduated kindergarten (understandable, imo). I’ve told
him to google all my pictures and see how they’re all labeled with “Aurora
Celeste” and not my real name, but he’s worried that for some reason her
legal name will need to be used because he signed a minor release form in
that name. I told him the announcer’s form is a totally separate form and
he shouldn’t be worried. Anyway, long story short, is there any possibility
that I’m wrong and a reason her legal name would need to be used either by
the announcer, on an entrant list, or in a gallery after the show? Also, is
there any way to find out if there will be additional forms at the con that
would need to be signed ahead of time like there was with Penny this year?

Thanks,

Aurora

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As far as the ICGallery is concerned:
We frequently label photos with aliases (con names) on the Gallery. If known to us, we like to put the person’s real name in the keywords (non-visible) so folks who know them by that name can find them.

Or vice-versa for some folks. We also put alternate names (maiden name, previous married names, etc.) for some folks as well.

If someone were to specifically request to be “labelled” a certain way, we can absolutely accomodate that.

Obviously I can’t speak for other websites.

Nora

— On Tue, 6/28/11, Aurora Celeste <auroraceleste@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Aurora Celeste <auroraceleste@gmail.com>
Subject: [runacc] Names on Photographs, etc
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 11:19 PM

I’m trying to reassure my brother, so excuse the obvious.  Next year I’m
bringing my niece to costume con.  She’s a costume diva and loves it when
she gets new outfits, so we designed an entry for her.  My mom will also be
attending to help herd her.  My brother is worried, though, about her online
presence.  He doesn’t really want her name attached to her face widely
online before she’s graduated kindergarten (understandable, imo).  I’ve told
him to google all my pictures and see how they’re all labeled with “Aurora
Celeste” and not my real name, but he’s worried that for some reason her
legal name will need to be used because he signed a minor release form in
that name.  I told him the announcer’s form is a totally separate form and
he shouldn’t be worried.  Anyway, long story short, is there any possibility
that I’m wrong and a reason her legal name would need to be used either by
the announcer, on an entrant list, or in a gallery after the show?  Also, is
there any way to find out if there will be additional forms at the con that
would need to be signed ahead of time like there was with Penny this year?

Thanks,

Aurora

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