Another note. The Con chair took a remarkable amount of heat from the dealers for making this change including them demanding a meeting on site so they could air their views. It was not pretty so I commend him for standing up for the change despite the unpleasentries
and fall out he had to deal with because of it.

I agree.  For the FFS especially, the designer could be from another country and unable to attend.  Suggest gently that a supporting would be appreciated, but don’t require it.

Elaine

I don’t remember a requirement for designers to be members at all.  However supporting memberships should be encouraged.

Please correct me if I’m wrong.

Those who fail to learn history
Are doomed to repeat it. 
Those who fail to learn history correctly --
Why they are simply doomed.

Achem Dro'hm "The Illusion of Historical Fact." 
-- CY 4971
Andromeda

We have been asked to do that before for a member that had a full membership but ultimately couldn’t attend. Her sister (the “model”) was still attending. In that case we knew both people involved and the provenance
of the costume in question, and the creator was credited fully.

We didn’t require people to have a Costume-Con 32 membership to enter designs in the Future Fashion Folio. Making it open to anyone turned out to be a great way to generate interest in Costume-Con.

Late to the conversation, sorry.
Usually FFS designers are not required to have a membership (although it has happened but not recently).
But FFF entrants are required to had an attending.
So what you below is better 🙂

Nora
——————————————–

On Tue, 1/9/18, Sharon Sbarsky sbarsky@gmail.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [runacc] Masquerade Entry
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 9, 2018, 10:30 AM

Thanks Dawn.

So maybe the guidelines I posted should be:

* Those appearing on stage in the SF&F, Historical,
Single Pattern,
and FFF shows should have attending memberships appropriate
to their
participation (Full Attending, One day, Student, etc.)

* To enter the FFF DESIGN
contest or be a creator or maker of a costume on stage, does
not require a membership, but may consider getting a
supporting membership to support the Costume-Con.

Sharon

Hey, everyone,

I have met my room nights but need to add more nights. We’ve met our room night goals and have added a few more nights to get Richard Man a room for his photo display. So, how much more do I need to add to the room block does anyone think?

We have 102 for Friday night, 108 for Saturday and 90 for Sunday…How much more?  They’re asking and I have no idea.

In advance of the meeting on 3/17, please update the officers on the Members Gallery page:

President, Byron Connell
1st Vice President, Richard Fine
2nd Vice President, Kathryn Draves
Corresponding Secretary, Elaine Mami
Recording Secretary, Tina Connell
Treasurer, Abi Levinson

Also, please add the minutes of the September 16, 2017, meeting that were approved at the December 2 meeting. They’re attached, in Word.

I’ve also attached the current membership list, should you have an opportunity to update the Members Gallery. These are the only persons we should be listing as members right now.

Finally, if you have the time, the Events list needs updating, at least to remove all the 2017 items.

Thanks for your help. If you have any questions, let me know.

I hope you can make the meeting.

Byron

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

For upcoming CCs – we need a full set of run order & awards lists from ALL competitions at the con.

Not only for the ICG Archives but for the CC records & website.

There has been missing documentation from several recent CCs and I have spent hours watching, pausing & rewinding DVDs trying to catch names, etc. 

It is neither fun nor particularly accurate. Please help us out by getting that data to us as soon as you can.

Email us spreadsheets, hand us printed forms – any data is better than bad or none.

Thanks,

Nora Mai

ICG Archives

I have all of your info, Byron. You’ve always been one of the best about getting the information to us in a timely fashion.

I too want to stay.

Are you sure abut migrating the Folio images? The rights are returned to the originators, so we may not have authority to do so without permission from them.

Byron

On May 21, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Vicky Young astra2000@yahoo.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I would like to stay, and although I cannot volunteer to help with the migrations, I will be trying to get some of the missing CC34 data. If anyone else is missing anything from CC34 (I’m aware of what the archives are missing and trying to get ahold of it), please let me know.

Vicky Assarattanakul

On Monday, May 21, 2018, 7:50:50 AM CDT, costumrs costumrs@radiks.net [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

As I’m sure you know, I’m staying.

Pierre

Those who fail to learn history
Are doomed to repeat it.
Those who fail to learn history correctly–
Why they are simply doomed.

Achem Dro’hm “The Illusion of Historical Fact.”
— CY 4971

——– Original message ——–
From: “Betsy Marks Delaney aramintamd@gmail.com [runacc]” <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 5/21/18 7:06 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: “List, Run a CC” <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [runacc] Migration and revision

Hey, all!

I did something I haven’t done in nine years: I attended a CC. I’m glad I did, and as of this writing, I have plans to do the same for CC37 next March.

While I was there, I met with Karen, Pierre, Kevin, Andy, Byron and Sharon Sbarsky (CC37), to revise the ConStitution. It’s going to be a major revision (3.0) when we’re done.

The motivation for the change comes from missing archive materials (photos, run lists, and more), and other structural organization issues with the document.

There’s an active editing process underway on Google docs. We worked our way through the entirety of Section 1. When we’ve finished reviewing Section 2 (the Site Selection process) I’ll post a link for review and comment.

But there’s more.

It’s only a matter of time before FatCow, Costume-Con.org’s hosting company, breaks Gallery the same way Gallery broke on the ICG’s site. That knowledge has led to some major changes.

Last summer I moved the bulk of the site’s front end to WordPress. I’m updating the front page and news pages this week, but I wanted you to know what’s coming next before I post this info there.

1. I’m migrating all of the data relating to programs, rules, and details like locations to WordPress, and out of Gallery. When I’m done, you’ll be able to pull up all the overview details, all the rules for SF/F masquerade competitions, and more. I’m not ready to move the photos yet. That’s coming soon.

2. I’m adding Cat Devereaux’s Fashion Folio section from Alley Cat Scratch. This represents a series of printable Fashion Folio figures and assorted other designer resources.

3. I’ve initiated contact with the ICG for attempting to locate the best system or plugin to migrate the photos in Gallery.

4. This Yahoo Group forum has become problematic. I can’t search further back than 2012, and there isn’t a good way to get at the data in the 3k+ messages stored here, which makes this a much less useful communication archive than it was.

I created a subdomain, runacc.costume-con.org, and attempted a second WordPress installation for the purpose of migrating runacc to a blog, but the installation is not working properly on FatCow, and I’m not convinced that turning this resource into a blog is the best choice.

Furthermore, with 36 years’ worth of data, I don’t think I can do this work by myself.

So, I’m asking for help and input.

What I want for RunaCC is something that we can store and host in a single website, rather than continuing to depend on external sites like Yahoo.

Yahoo’s main advantage is “push technology” (sending you messages when they’re posted by others), but there are several people who have that option turned off on Yahoo, and I’m not sure how many members are still paying attention to this list.

As much as it pained me to do it, I removed Marty’s account from the group. There are still 36 members.

It’s been a while since I asked people if they wanted to continue to subscribe here. This seems like a good time to ask again.

If you have suggestions for migrating this forum, I’m all ears. I want to see us off of Yahoo by the end of summer, if not sooner.

Please provide feedback as soon as possible.

I know some of you are tied up with Worldcon and some of you are working with Phil and Ozma on migrating Gallery on the ICG’s site.

We’re collecting the data and photos from this year’s CC to post soon.

Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

If you’re ready to depart from this resource, thanks very much for your input and attention over the last several decades!

More soon,

Betsy

 

On Mon, May 21, 2018, 11:55 PM Byron P Connell byronpconnell@gmail.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I too want to stay.

Are you sure abut migrating the Folio images? The rights are returned to the originators, so we may not have authority to do so without permission from them.

Byron

On May 21, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Vicky Young astra2000@yahoo.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I would like to stay, and although I cannot volunteer to help with the migrations, I will be trying to get some of the missing CC34 data. If anyone else is missing anything from CC34 (I’m aware of what the archives are missing and trying to get ahold of it), please let me know.

Vicky Assarattanakul

On Monday, May 21, 2018, 7:50:50 AM CDT, costumrs costumrs@radiks.net [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

As I’m sure you know, I’m staying.

Pierre

Those who fail to learn history
Are doomed to repeat it.
Those who fail to learn history correctly–
Why they are simply doomed.

Achem Dro’hm “The Illusion of Historical Fact.”
— CY 4971

——– Original message ——–
From: “Betsy Marks Delaney aramintamd@gmail.com [runacc]” <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 5/21/18 7:06 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: “List, Run a CC” <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [runacc] Migration and revision

Hey, all!

I did something I haven’t done in nine years: I attended a CC. I’m glad I did, and as of this writing, I have plans to do the same for CC37 next March.

While I was there, I met with Karen, Pierre, Kevin, Andy, Byron and Sharon Sbarsky (CC37), to revise the ConStitution. It’s going to be a major revision (3.0) when we’re done.

The motivation for the change comes from missing archive materials (photos, run lists, and more), and other structural organization issues with the document.

There’s an active editing process underway on Google docs. We worked our way through the entirety of Section 1. When we’ve finished reviewing Section 2 (the Site Selection process) I’ll post a link for review and comment.

But there’s more.

It’s only a matter of time before FatCow, Costume-Con.org’s hosting company, breaks Gallery the same way Gallery broke on the ICG’s site. That knowledge has led to some major changes.

Last summer I moved the bulk of the site’s front end to WordPress. I’m updating the front page and news pages this week, but I wanted you to know what’s coming next before I post this info there.

1. I’m migrating all of the data relating to programs, rules, and details like locations to WordPress, and out of Gallery. When I’m done, you’ll be able to pull up all the overview details, all the rules for SF/F masquerade competitions, and more. I’m not ready to move the photos yet. That’s coming soon.

2. I’m adding Cat Devereaux’s Fashion Folio section from Alley Cat Scratch. This represents a series of printable Fashion Folio figures and assorted other designer resources.

3. I’ve initiated contact with the ICG for attempting to locate the best system or plugin to migrate the photos in Gallery.

4. This Yahoo Group forum has become problematic. I can’t search further back than 2012, and there isn’t a good way to get at the data in the 3k+ messages stored here, which makes this a much less useful communication archive than it was.

I created a subdomain, runacc.costume-con.org, and attempted a second WordPress installation for the purpose of migrating runacc to a blog, but the installation is not working properly on FatCow, and I’m not convinced that turning this resource into a blog is the best choice.

Furthermore, with 36 years’ worth of data, I don’t think I can do this work by myself.

So, I’m asking for help and input.

What I want for RunaCC is something that we can store and host in a single website, rather than continuing to depend on external sites like Yahoo.

Yahoo’s main advantage is “push technology” (sending you messages when they’re posted by others), but there are several people who have that option turned off on Yahoo, and I’m not sure how many members are still paying attention to this list.

As much as it pained me to do it, I removed Marty’s account from the group. There are still 36 members.

It’s been a while since I asked people if they wanted to continue to subscribe here. This seems like a good time to ask again.

If you have suggestions for migrating this forum, I’m all ears. I want to see us off of Yahoo by the end of summer, if not sooner.

Please provide feedback as soon as possible.

I know some of you are tied up with Worldcon and some of you are working with Phil and Ozma on migrating Gallery on the ICG’s site.

We’re collecting the data and photos from this year’s CC to post soon.

Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

If you’re ready to depart from this resource, thanks very much for your input and attention over the last several decades!

More soon,

Betsy

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On Tue, May 22, 2018, 9:55 PM Kevin Roche kevin@twistedimage.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

as we discussed at CC36, I’m still interested. As the person who helped build the Gallery software version, I may be able to write some automation to extract the field data from the gallery database from you — but almost certainly not before worldcon.

Kevin

 

On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 3:48 PM, ‘Nora & Bruce Mai’ casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Well, for the past decade I’ve been helping to post the CC pics to the site as soon as I receive them. I’ve even had to download them from other sites so they could be put on there when the individual CCs didn’t provide the photos.

So if you’d like my continued help with that I’d be glad to – just need the pics.

 

I’d certainly be interested in helping going forward too. As part of the Archive team I like having access to all the CC info even if we don’t post the official photos to the Gallery site (or didn’t when it was active) only fan photos.

I’d need some training on whatever software you end up using but I think I’m trainable.

 

Nora

 

From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 7:07 AM
To: List, Run a CC
Subject: [runacc] Migration and revision

 

 

Hey, all!

 

I did something I haven’t done in nine years: I attended a CC. I’m glad I did, and as of this writing, I have plans to do the same for CC37 next March.

 

While I was there, I met with Karen, Pierre, Kevin, Andy, Byron and Sharon Sbarsky (CC37), to revise the ConStitution. It’s going to be a major revision (3.0) when we’re done.

 

The motivation for the change comes from missing archive materials (photos, run lists, and more), and other structural organization issues with the document.

 

 

There’s an active editing process underway on Google docs. We worked our way through the entirety of Section 1. When we’ve finished reviewing Section 2 (the Site Selection process) I’ll post a link for review and comment.

 

 

 

But there’s more.

 

It’s only a matter of time before FatCow, Costume-Con.org’s hosting company, breaks Gallery the same way Gallery broke on the ICG’s site. That knowledge has led to some major changes.

 

Last summer I moved the bulk of the site’s front end to WordPress. I’m updating the front page and news pages this week, but I wanted you to know what’s coming next before I post this info there.

 

1. I’m migrating all of the data relating to programs, rules, and details like locations to WordPress, and out of Gallery. When I’m done, you’ll be able to pull up all the overview details, all the rules for SF/F masquerade competitions, and more. I’m not ready to move the photos yet. That’s coming soon.

 

 

2. I’m adding Cat Devereaux’s Fashion Folio section from Alley Cat Scratch. This represents a series of printable Fashion Folio figures and assorted other designer resources.

 

 

3. I’ve initiated contact with the ICG for attempting to locate the best system or plugin to migrate the photos in Gallery.

 

4. This Yahoo Group forum has become problematic. I can’t search further back than 2012, and there isn’t a good way to get at the data in the 3k+ messages stored here, which makes this a much less useful communication archive than it was.

 

I created a subdomain, runacc.costume-con.org, and attempted a second WordPress installation for the purpose of migrating runacc to a blog, but the installation is not working properly on FatCow, and I’m not convinced that turning this resource into a blog is the best choice. 

 

Furthermore, with 36 years’ worth of data, I don’t think I can do this work by myself. 

 

So, I’m asking for help and input.

 

What I want for RunaCC is something that we can store and host in a single website, rather than continuing to depend on external sites like Yahoo.

 

Yahoo’s main advantage is “push technology” (sending you messages when they’re posted by others), but there are several people who have that option turned off on Yahoo, and I’m not sure how many members are still paying attention to this list. 

 

As much as it pained me to do it, I removed Marty’s account from the group. There are still 36 members.

 

It’s been a while since I asked people if they wanted to continue to subscribe here. This seems like a good time to ask again.

 

If you have suggestions for migrating this forum, I’m all ears. I want to see us off of Yahoo by the end of summer, if not sooner.

 

Please provide feedback as soon as possible. 

 

I know some of you are tied up with Worldcon and some of you are working with Phil and Ozma on migrating Gallery on the ICG’s site. 

 

We’re collecting the data and photos from this year’s CC to post soon.

 

Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

 

If you’re ready to depart from this resource, thanks very much for your input and attention over the last several decades!

 

More soon,

 

Betsy 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Betsy —

In addition o official photos, do you want fan photos? If you do, do you have my photos from CC3? If you don’t and you want them, they’re available on the Pups’ web site. Go to www.sickpups.org/memories.html and click on CC3. You’re welcome to make use of them, I say as both photographer and Pups’ president.

Byron

On May 22, 2018, at 11:45 PM, Betsy Marks Delaney aramintamd@gmail.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I was counting on both Nora and Kevin to say that, so color me glad for the assistance!

Nora, if you can update the existing CC36 section, I’ll keep working on the ancient stuff. I’ll need someons(s) to review names for memorializing and am contemplating a rolling In Memorium section, so that we can track those of us who are gone, but for now just getting the names updated is enough.

Rebecca is continuing to compile data in Google Docs, and I’ll likely build a single spreadsheet with multiple pages, one per competition, so it’s all in one place.

I haven’t had time to check the program out for photos. I know Eric Cannon shot a complete set of video.

WordPress is relatively easy once you understand how to navigate the Dashboard. The archives are being constructed as posts (blog-style) with type of document (category) and conference (tag), so you can see all the docs for a single conference or all the rules for SF/F. Pulling that data out and making sure that the format is consistent is taking some time, and I’m updating the double dagger to an asterisk for those who are deceased.

I’ll also update the main page of the site and revise the News page to outline what’s happening.

I’m hoping to get all 35 of the previous years’ events extracted by the first weekend of June.

When I’m done, I’ll edit the Gallery pages and remove the big chunks of text.

That should help Kevin with grabbing the data in the custom fields.

Thanks for continuing to work on the site. I wish circumstances hadn’t forced me to step away, but I’m glad not to have to reconstruct 10 years’ worth of data.

I’m back at work tomorrow, and will be starting on CC6.

Betsy

On Tue, May 22, 2018, 9:55 PM Kevin Roche kevin@twistedimage.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

as we discussed at CC36, I’m still interested. As the person who helped build the Gallery software version, I may be able to write some automation to extract the field data from the gallery database from you — but almost certainly not before worldcon.

Kevin

On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 3:48 PM, ‘Nora & Bruce Mai’ casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com>wrote:

Well, for the past decade I’ve been helping to post the CC pics to the site as soon as I receive them. I’ve even had to download them from other sites so they could be put on there when the individual CCs didn’t provide the photos.

So if you’d like my continued help with that I’d be glad to – just need the pics.

I’d certainly be interested in helping going forward too. As part of the Archive team I like having access to all the CC info even if we don’t post the official photos to the Gallery site (or didn’t when it was active) only fan photos.

I’d need some training on whatever software you end up using but I think I’m trainable.

Nora

From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 7:07 AM
To: List, Run a CC
Subject: [runacc] Migration and revision

Hey, all!

I did something I haven’t done in nine years: I attended a CC. I’m glad I did, and as of this writing, I have plans to do the same for CC37 next March.

While I was there, I met with Karen, Pierre, Kevin, Andy, Byron and Sharon Sbarsky (CC37), to revise the ConStitution. It’s going to be a major revision (3.0) when we’re done.

The motivation for the change comes from missing archive materials (photos, run lists, and more), and other structural organization issues with the document.

There’s an active editing process underway on Google docs. We worked our way through the entirety of Section 1. When we’ve finished reviewing Section 2 (the Site Selection process) I’ll post a link for review and comment.

But there’s more.

It’s only a matter of time before FatCow, Costume-Con.org’s hosting company, breaks Gallery the same way Gallery broke on the ICG’s site. That knowledge has led to some major changes.

Last summer I moved the bulk of the site’s front end to WordPress. I’m updating the front page and news pages this week, but I wanted you to know what’s coming next before I post this info there.

1. I’m migrating all of the data relating to programs, rules, and details like locations to WordPress, and out of Gallery. When I’m done, you’ll be able to pull up all the overview details, all the rules for SF/F masquerade competitions, and more. I’m not ready to move the photos yet. That’s coming soon.

2. I’m adding Cat Devereaux’s Fashion Folio section from Alley Cat Scratch. This represents a series of printable Fashion Folio figures and assorted other designer resources.

3. I’ve initiated contact with the ICG for attempting to locate the best system or plugin to migrate the photos in Gallery.

4. This Yahoo Group forum has become problematic. I can’t search further back than 2012, and there isn’t a good way to get at the data in the 3k+ messages stored here, which makes this a much less useful communication archive than it was.

I created a subdomain, runacc.costume-con.org, and attempted a second WordPress installation for the purpose of migrating runacc to a blog, but the installation is not working properly on FatCow, and I’m not convinced that turning this resource into a blog is the best choice.

Furthermore, with 36 years’ worth of data, I don’t think I can do this work by myself.

So, I’m asking for help and input.

What I want for RunaCC is something that we can store and host in a single website, rather than continuing to depend on external sites like Yahoo.

Yahoo’s main advantage is “push technology” (sending you messages when they’re posted by others), but there are several people who have that option turned off on Yahoo, and I’m not sure how many members are still paying attention to this list.

As much as it pained me to do it, I removed Marty’s account from the group. There are still 36 members.

It’s been a while since I asked people if they wanted to continue to subscribe here. This seems like a good time to ask again.

If you have suggestions for migrating this forum, I’m all ears. I want to see us off of Yahoo by the end of summer, if not sooner..

Please provide feedback as soon as possible.

I know some of you are tied up with Worldcon and some of you are working with Phil and Ozma on migrating Gallery on the ICG’s site.

We’re collecting the data and photos from this year’s CC to post soon.

Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

If you’re ready to depart from this resource, thanks very much for your input and attention over the last several decades!

More soon,

Betsy

 

On Thu, May 24, 2018, 7:46 PM Byron P Connell byronpconnell@gmail.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Betsy —

In addition o official photos, do you want fan photos? If you do, do you have my photos from CC3? If you don’t and you want them, they’re available on the Pups’ web site. Go to www.sickpups.org/memories.html and click on CC3. You’re welcome to make use of them, I say as both photographer and Pups’ president.

Byron

On May 22, 2018, at 11:45 PM, Betsy Marks Delaney aramintamd@gmail.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I was counting on both Nora and Kevin to say that, so color me glad for the assistance!

Nora, if you can update the existing CC36 section, I’ll keep working on the ancient stuff. I’ll need someons(s) to review names for memorializing and am contemplating a rolling In Memorium section, so that we can track those of us who are gone, but for now just getting the names updated is enough.

Rebecca is continuing to compile data in Google Docs, and I’ll likely build a single spreadsheet with multiple pages, one per competition, so it’s all in one place.

I haven’t had time to check the program out for photos. I know Eric Cannon shot a complete set of video.

WordPress is relatively easy once you understand how to navigate the Dashboard. The archives are being constructed as posts (blog-style) with type of document (category) and conference (tag), so you can see all the docs for a single conference or all the rules for SF/F. Pulling that data out and making sure that the format is consistent is taking some time, and I’m updating the double dagger to an asterisk for those who are deceased.

I’ll also update the main page of the site and revise the News page to outline what’s happening.

I’m hoping to get all 35 of the previous years’ events extracted by the first weekend of June.

When I’m done, I’ll edit the Gallery pages and remove the big chunks of text.

That should help Kevin with grabbing the data in the custom fields.

Thanks for continuing to work on the site. I wish circumstances hadn’t forced me to step away, but I’m glad not to have to reconstruct 10 years’ worth of data.

I’m back at work tomorrow, and will be starting on CC6.

Betsy

On Tue, May 22, 2018, 9:55 PM Kevin Roche kevin@twistedimage.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

as we discussed at CC36, I’m still interested. As the person who helped build the Gallery software version, I may be able to write some automation to extract the field data from the gallery database from you — but almost certainly not before worldcon.

Kevin

On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 3:48 PM, ‘Nora & Bruce Mai’ casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com>wrote:

Well, for the past decade I’ve been helping to post the CC pics to the site as soon as I receive them. I’ve even had to download them from other sites so they could be put on there when the individual CCs didn’t provide the photos.

So if you’d like my continued help with that I’d be glad to – just need the pics.

I’d certainly be interested in helping going forward too. As part of the Archive team I like having access to all the CC info even if we don’t post the official photos to the Gallery site (or didn’t when it was active) only fan photos.

I’d need some training on whatever software you end up using but I think I’m trainable.

Nora

From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 7:07 AM
To: List, Run a CC
Subject: [runacc] Migration and revision

Hey, all!

I did something I haven’t done in nine years: I attended a CC. I’m glad I did, and as of this writing, I have plans to do the same for CC37 next March..

While I was there, I met with Karen, Pierre, Kevin, Andy, Byron and Sharon Sbarsky (CC37), to revise the ConStitution. It’s going to be a major revision (3.0) when we’re done.

The motivation for the change comes from missing archive materials (photos, run lists, and more), and other structural organization issues with the document.

There’s an active editing process underway on Google docs. We worked our way through the entirety of Section 1. When we’ve finished reviewing Section 2 (the Site Selection process) I’ll post a link for review and comment.

But there’s more.

It’s only a matter of time before FatCow, Costume-Con.org’s hosting company, breaks Gallery the same way Gallery broke on the ICG’s site. That knowledge has led to some major changes.

Last summer I moved the bulk of the site’s front end to WordPress. I’m updating the front page and news pages this week, but I wanted you to know what’s coming next before I post this info there.

1. I’m migrating all of the data relating to programs, rules, and details like locations to WordPress, and out of Gallery. When I’m done, you’ll be able to pull up all the overview details, all the rules for SF/F masquerade competitions, and more. I’m not ready to move the photos yet. That’s coming soon.

2. I’m adding Cat Devereaux’s Fashion Folio section from Alley Cat Scratch. This represents a series of printable Fashion Folio figures and assorted other designer resources.

3. I’ve initiated contact with the ICG for attempting to locate the best system or plugin to migrate the photos in Gallery.

4. This Yahoo Group forum has become problematic. I can’t search further back than 2012, and there isn’t a good way to get at the data in the 3k+ messages stored here, which makes this a much less useful communication archive than it was.

I created a subdomain, runacc.costume-con.org, and attempted a second WordPress installation for the purpose of migrating runacc to a blog, but the installation is not working properly on FatCow, and I’m not convinced that turning this resource into a blog is the best choice.

Furthermore, with 36 years’ worth of data, I don’t think I can do this work by myself.

So, I’m asking for help and input.

What I want for RunaCC is something that we can store and host in a single website, rather than continuing to depend on external sites like Yahoo.

Yahoo’s main advantage is “push technology” (sending you messages when they’re posted by others), but there are several people who have that option turned off on Yahoo, and I’m not sure how many members are still paying attention to this list.

As much as it pained me to do it, I removed Marty’s account from the group. There are still 36 members.

It’s been a while since I asked people if they wanted to continue to subscribe here. This seems like a good time to ask again.

If you have suggestions for migrating this forum, I’m all ears. I want to see us off of Yahoo by the end of summer, if not sooner..

Please provide feedback as soon as possible.

I know some of you are tied up with Worldcon and some of you are working with Phil and Ozma on migrating Gallery on the ICG’s site.

We’re collecting the data and photos from this year’s CC to post soon.

Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

If you’re ready to depart from this resource, thanks very much for your input and attention over the last several decades!

More soon,

Betsy

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On Thu, May 24, 2018, 11:02 PM ‘Nora & Bruce Mai’ casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Now there’s a good question.  How far does that extend?  I know that early records have had to rely on that, but the ICG has a lot of early fan photos also.   How much of that do you want included in the official records?   If there happen to be any missing views, we may be able to help (once we’re better organized).

 

Bruce

 

From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 8:46 PM
To: List, Run a CC
Cc: Byron Connell
Subject: Re: [runacc] Migration and revision

 

Thanks, Byron!

 

Much appreciated!

 

Betsy

 

On Thu, May 24, 2018, 7:46 PM Byron P Connell byronpconnell@gmail.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Betsy —

In addition o official photos, do you want fan photos? If you do, do you have my photos from CC3? If you don’t and you want them, they’re available on the Pups’ web site. Go to www.sickpups.org/memories.html and click on CC3. You’re welcome to make use of them, I say as both photographer and Pups’ president.

Byron

On May 22, 2018, at 11:45 PM, Betsy Marks Delaney aramintamd@gmail.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I was counting on both Nora and Kevin to say that, so color me glad for the assistance!

Nora, if you can update the existing CC36 section, I’ll keep working on the ancient stuff. I’ll need someons(s) to review names for memorializing and am contemplating a rolling In Memorium section, so that we can track those of us who are gone, but for now just getting the names updated is enough.

Rebecca is continuing to compile data in Google Docs, and I’ll likely build a single spreadsheet with multiple pages, one per competition, so it’s all in one place.

I haven’t had time to check the program out for photos. I know Eric Cannon shot a complete set of video.

WordPress is relatively easy once you understand how to navigate the Dashboard.. The archives are being constructed as posts (blog-style) with type of document (category) and conference (tag), so you can see all the docs for a single conference or all the rules for SF/F. Pulling that data out and making sure that the format is consistent is taking some time, and I’m updating the double dagger to an asterisk for those who are deceased.

I’ll also update the main page of the site and revise the News page to outline what’s happening.

I’m hoping to get all 35 of the previous years’ events extracted by the first weekend of June.

When I’m done, I’ll edit the Gallery pages and remove the big chunks of text.

That should help Kevin with grabbing the data in the custom fields.

Thanks for continuing to work on the site. I wish circumstances hadn’t forced me to step away, but I’m glad not to have to reconstruct 10 years’ worth of data.

I’m back at work tomorrow, and will be starting on CC6.

Betsy

On Tue, May 22, 2018, 9:55 PM Kevin Roche kevin@twistedimage.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

as we discussed at CC36, I’m still interested. As the person who helped build the Gallery software version, I may be able to write some automation to extract the field data from the gallery database from you — but almost certainly not before worldcon.

Kevin

On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 3:48 PM, ‘Nora & Bruce Mai’ casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com>wrote:

Well, for the past decade I’ve been helping to post the CC pics to the site as soon as I receive them. I’ve even had to download them from other sites so they could be put on there when the individual CCs didn’t provide the photos.

So if you’d like my continued help with that I’d be glad to – just need the pics.

I’d certainly be interested in helping going forward too. As part of the Archive team I like having access to all the CC info even if we don’t post the official photos to the Gallery site (or didn’t when it was active) only fan photos.

I’d need some training on whatever software you end up using but I think I’m trainable.

Nora

From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 7:07 AM
To: List, Run a CC
Subject: [runacc] Migration and revision

Hey, all!

I did something I haven’t done in nine years: I attended a CC. I’m glad I did, and as of this writing, I have plans to do the same for CC37 next March..

While I was there, I met with Karen, Pierre, Kevin, Andy, Byron and Sharon Sbarsky (CC37), to revise the ConStitution. It’s going to be a major revision (3.0) when we’re done.

The motivation for the change comes from missing archive materials (photos, run lists, and more), and other structural organization issues with the document.

There’s an active editing process underway on Google docs. We worked our way through the entirety of Section 1. When we’ve finished reviewing Section 2 (the Site Selection process) I’ll post a link for review and comment.

But there’s more.

It’s only a matter of time before FatCow, Costume-Con.org’s hosting company, breaks Gallery the same way Gallery broke on the ICG’s site. That knowledge has led to some major changes.

Last summer I moved the bulk of the site’s front end to WordPress. I’m updating the front page and news pages this week, but I wanted you to know what’s coming next before I post this info there.

1. I’m migrating all of the data relating to programs, rules, and details like locations to WordPress, and out of Gallery. When I’m done, you’ll be able to pull up all the overview details, all the rules for SF/F masquerade competitions, and more. I’m not ready to move the photos yet. That’s coming soon.

2. I’m adding Cat Devereaux’s Fashion Folio section from Alley Cat Scratch. This represents a series of printable Fashion Folio figures and assorted other designer resources.

3. I’ve initiated contact with the ICG for attempting to locate the best system or plugin to migrate the photos in Gallery.

4. This Yahoo Group forum has become problematic. I can’t search further back than 2012, and there isn’t a good way to get at the data in the 3k+ messages stored here, which makes this a much less useful communication archive than it was.

I created a subdomain, runacc.costume-con.org, and attempted a second WordPress installation for the purpose of migrating runacc to a blog, but the installation is not working properly on FatCow, and I’m not convinced that turning this resource into a blog is the best choice.

Furthermore, with 36 years’ worth of data, I don’t think I can do this work by myself.

So, I’m asking for help and input.

What I want for RunaCC is something that we can store and host in a single website, rather than continuing to depend on external sites like Yahoo.

Yahoo’s main advantage is “push technology” (sending you messages when they’re posted by others), but there are several people who have that option turned off on Yahoo, and I’m not sure how many members are still paying attention to this list.

As much as it pained me to do it, I removed Marty’s account from the group. There are still 36 members.

It’s been a while since I asked people if they wanted to continue to subscribe here. This seems like a good time to ask again.

If you have suggestions for migrating this forum, I’m all ears. I want to see us off of Yahoo by the end of summer, if not sooner..

Please provide feedback as soon as possible.

I know some of you are tied up with Worldcon and some of you are working with Phil and Ozma on migrating Gallery on the ICG’s site.

We’re collecting the data and photos from this year’s CC to post soon.

Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

If you’re ready to depart from this resource, thanks very much for your input and attention over the last several decades!

More soon,

Betsy

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