Month: September 2015

Yahoo Archive: Page 60 of 67

WordPress Administrator

 

Messages in runacc group. Page 60 of 67.
Group: runacc Message: 2954 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 9/3/2015
Subject: Re: The Costume-Con Archives – especially photos
Group: runacc Message: 2955 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 9/26/2015
Subject: New topic: “Are you going?”
Group: runacc Message: 2956 From: axejudge Date: 9/26/2015
Subject: Re: New topic: “Are you going?”
Group: runacc Message: 2957 From: Trudy Leonard Date: 9/26/2015
Subject: Re: New topic: “Are you going?”
Group: runacc Message: 2958 From: Andrew Trembley Date: 9/27/2015
Subject: Re: New topic: “Are you going?”
Group: runacc Message: 2959 From: Stacey Lee Date: 9/27/2015
Subject: Re: membership list
Group: runacc Message: 2960 From: Betsy Marks Delaney Date: 9/27/2015
Subject: Re: membership list
Group: runacc Message: 2961 From: Kevin Roche Date: 9/27/2015
Subject: Re: New topic: “Are you going?”
Group: runacc Message: 2962 From: Byron Connell Date: 9/27/2015
Subject: Re: membership list
Group: runacc Message: 2963 From: Andrew Trembley Date: 9/28/2015
Subject: Re: membership list
Group: runacc Message: 2964 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 9/28/2015
Subject: Re: membership list
Group: runacc Message: 2965 From: grizzy1955 Date: 10/16/2015
Subject: BIDS FOR COSTUME-CON 37 NEEDED
Group: runacc Message: 2966 From: axejudge Date: 10/25/2015
Subject: SD CC
Group: runacc Message: 2967 From: beckieboo817 Date: 10/25/2015
Subject: Re: SD CC
Group: runacc Message: 2968 From: Kevin Roche Date: 10/26/2015
Subject: Re: SD CC
Group: runacc Message: 2969 From: ssbarsky Date: 11/17/2015
Subject: Re: BIDS FOR COSTUME-CON 37 NEEDED
Group: runacc Message: 2970 From: Byron Connell Date: 11/18/2015
Subject: New Member
Group: runacc Message: 2971 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 12/20/2015
Subject: Con Suite Food notes
Group: runacc Message: 2972 From: Byron Connell Date: 12/20/2015
Subject: Re: Con Suite Food notes
Group: runacc Message: 2973 From: beckieboo817 Date: 1/1/2016
Subject: Costume Con 36
Group: runacc Message: 2974 From: Betsy Marks Delaney Date: 1/2/2016
Subject: Re: Costume Con 36
Group: runacc Message: 2975 From: beckieboo817 Date: 1/18/2016
Subject: Attendance and room counts
Group: runacc Message: 2976 From: marg1066 Date: 1/19/2016
Subject: Re: Attendance and room counts
Group: runacc Message: 2977 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 1/24/2016
Subject: Re: Attendance and room counts
Group: runacc Message: 2978 From: Byron P Connell Date: 1/31/2016
Subject: Proposal for a New ICG Special Interest Group on Masquerade Running
Group: runacc Message: 2979 From: Sarah Bloy Date: 2/6/2016
Subject: Paging the CC36 Staff
Group: runacc Message: 2980 From: Byron Connell Date: 2/6/2016
Subject: Re: Paging the CC36 Staff
Group: runacc Message: 2981 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 2/7/2016
Subject: An interesting Fashion Show layout
Group: runacc Message: 2982 From: Byron Connell Date: 2/7/2016
Subject: Re: An interesting Fashion Show layout
Group: runacc Message: 2983 From: spiritof_76 Date: 2/8/2016
Subject: Re: An interesting Fashion Show layout
Group: runacc Message: 2984 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 2/9/2016
Subject: Re: An interesting Fashion Show layout
Group: runacc Message: 2985 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 2/9/2016
Subject: Re: Paging the CC36 Staff
Group: runacc Message: 2986 From: spiritof_76 Date: 2/10/2016
Subject: Re: An interesting Fashion Show layout
Group: runacc Message: 2987 From: Kaijugal . Date: 2/12/2016
Subject: Re: Proposal for a New ICG Special Interest Group on Masquerade Runn
Group: runacc Message: 2988 From: Byron Connell Date: 2/12/2016
Subject: Re: Proposal for a New ICG Special Interest Group on Masquerade Runn
Group: runacc Message: 2989 From: beckieboo817 Date: 3/22/2016
Subject: Size of main event room
Group: runacc Message: 2990 From: Betsy Marks Delaney Date: 3/22/2016
Subject: Re: Size of main event room
Group: runacc Message: 2991 From: Sarah A Bloy Date: 3/22/2016
Subject: Re: Size of main event room
Group: runacc Message: 2992 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 3/22/2016
Subject: Re: Size of main event room
Group: runacc Message: 2993 From: Kevin Roche Date: 3/22/2016
Subject: Re: Size of main event room
Group: runacc Message: 2994 From: ECM Date: 3/22/2016
Subject: Re: Size of main event room
Group: runacc Message: 2995 From: ECM Date: 3/22/2016
Subject: Re: Size of main event room
Group: runacc Message: 2996 From: ECM Date: 3/22/2016
Subject: Re: Size of main event room
Group: runacc Message: 2997 From: spiritof_76 Date: 3/22/2016
Subject: Re: Size of main event room
Group: runacc Message: 2998 From: Sharon Sbarsky Date: 3/23/2016
Subject: Re: Size of main event room
Group: runacc Message: 2999 From: marg1066 Date: 3/23/2016
Subject: Re: Size of main event room
Group: runacc Message: 3000 From: Sharon Sbarsky Date: 3/23/2016
Subject: Re: Attendance and room counts
Group: runacc Message: 3001 From: Betsy Marks Delaney Date: 3/23/2016
Subject: Re: Attendance and room counts
Group: runacc Message: 3002 From: Sharon Sbarsky Date: 3/23/2016
Subject: Re: Attendance and room counts
Group: runacc Message: 3003 From: Betsy Marks Delaney Date: 3/23/2016
Subject: Re: Attendance and room counts

 

 

Group: runacc Message: 2954 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 9/3/2015
Subject: Re: The Costume-Con Archives – especially photos
Having different angles can be a good thing. Also, sometimes an entry slips through without being photographed. A good example was Kathy Sanders’ rendition of Nora’s Ribbon Dress for the CC11 FFS. She didn’t go through official photography, but fortunately, I got a very good shot of it.

I don’t know if there needs to be a separate folder for hall costumes or not, or if the CC Archives should stick to the events, but since the ICG Archives maintains its own records of CC activates (though we don’t repost the official pictures), we have folders for just such photos. It’s just as important to have a record of the non-competition outfits people wear, since it gives an insight into their “con garb”.

Bruce

—–Original Message—–
From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 10:05 PM
To: RunaCC
Subject: Re: [runacc] The Costume-Con Archives – especially photos

I’ll look back through my past CC photos. I frequently take photos of the exhibits and doll competitions, and more recently, some of the quilts. If I’ve already submitted some, any duplicates I dig up and send can be ignored, of course. May take me a while, though. Up until just a few years ago, everything was film, not digital.

As many of you know, I particularly like to get close-ups of the neat little detail bits that most people never get to see. A lot of the photos I’ve got were ones in the Green Room or halls, since I seldom actually get to see the masquerade from the audience.

Tina

 
Group: runacc Message: 2955 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 9/26/2015
Subject: New topic: “Are you going?”

 

 

Many moons ago, a feature in the back of progress reports was a list of people who had bought memberships.   With each PR, they were updated with the latest list.   It was not only a good way to learn who was going, but also one way of determining if it was worth going to (judging by who you knew on the list)   It could also be a gauge of how successful the con might be.

Would this be a good idea to bring back in a PR or a web page, or in this day of the internet and privacy concerns, is this no longer wise?

Go!

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 2956 From: axejudge Date: 9/26/2015
Subject: Re: New topic: “Are you going?”

I liked it a lot.  It did require, however, that:

a.  there actually WERE regular PRs; and

b.  someone took the lead to keep the list updated (this seems obvious, but you’d be surprised how difficult this information seems to be for some cons to put their finger on; this is the treasurer’s domain, but can lag behind)

Karen

 

 

On 2015-09-26 23:40, ‘Nora & Bruce Mai’ casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc] wrote:

 

 

Many moons ago, a feature in the back of progress reports was a list of people who had bought memberships.   With each PR, they were updated with the latest list.   It was not only a good way to learn who was going, but also one way of determining if it was worth going to (judging by who you knew on the list)   It could also be a gauge of how successful the con might be.

Would this be a good idea to bring back in a PR or a web page, or in this day of the internet and privacy concerns, is this no longer wise?

Go!

 

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 2957 From: Trudy Leonard Date: 9/26/2015
Subject: Re: New topic: “Are you going?”

 

It was also helpful for those of us who couldn’t remember whether we’d already gotten our memberships. 😘

Trudy
Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

—- ‘Nora & Bruce Mai’ casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc] wrote —-

 

Many moons ago, a feature in the back of progress reports was a list of people who had bought memberships.   With each PR, they were updated with the latest list.   It was not only a good way to learn who was going, but also one way of
determining if it was worth going to (judging by who you knew on the list)   It could also be a gauge of how successful the con might be.

Would this be a good idea to bring back in a PR or a web page, or in this day of the internet and privacy concerns, is this no longer wise?

Go!

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 2958 From: Andrew Trembley Date: 9/27/2015
Subject: Re: New topic: “Are you going?”

Check out the roster section of http://www.sjin2018.org

It’s automatically fed from the reg database, and is opt-in with choice of listing real name or badge name.

 

On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 8:01 PM Trudy Leonard georgialei@hotmail.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

It was also helpful for those of us who couldn’t remember whether we’d already gotten our memberships. 😘

Trudy
Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

—- ‘Nora & Bruce Mai’ casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc] wrote —-

 

Many moons ago, a feature in the back of progress reports was a list of people who had bought memberships.   With each PR, they were updated with the latest list.   It was not only a good way to learn who was going, but also one way of
determining if it was worth going to (judging by who you knew on the list)   It could also be a gauge of how successful the con might be.

Would this be a good idea to bring back in a PR or a web page, or in this day of the internet and privacy concerns, is this no longer wise?

Go!

 

 

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 2959 From: Stacey Lee Date: 9/27/2015
Subject: Re: membership list

I remember CC31 put it up on the website. We got together as a committee (I think it was even before our bid was certified) and agreed that 34 would NOT be doing that because of privacy concerns. Even if it was just a list of names, it’s too easy in the age of google and facebook to cross-reference that against people’s locations and put them at risk.

I suppose if the progress reports are only being privately emailed to registered members, then putting it in the prog report isn’t as big a risk. But then I have to ask…why? What’s the purpose of such a list? If you can’t remember if you registered, email the con (chair or head of registration) and ask. If it’s to rubberneck who else is going….well. Big deal. I can’t speak to others, of course, but for me, that’s useless info and I wouldn’t care. I’ll see people when I arrive at the con. I don’t have a burning need to know that ahead of time.

So I guess it comes down to: if it can be distributed safely via privately-emailed prog reports, then it’s up to the concom’s personal preference. I’m sure it wouldn’t take that much extra bandwidth, but it might take some poor secretary or registration head’s time to compile the list of names-only.

Stace
the poor secretary who might have to make that compilation.

——————————————–

On Sun, 9/27/15, runacc@yahoogroups.com <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
________________________________________________________________________
1a. New topic:  “Are you going?”
Posted by: “Nora & Bruce Mai” casamai@sbcglobal.net
casamai
Date: Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:40 pm ((PDT))

Many moons ago, a feature in the back of progress reports
was a list of
people who had bought memberships.   With
each PR, they were updated with
the latest list.   It was not only a good way
to learn who was going, but
also one way of determining if it was worth going to
(judging by who you
knew on the list)   It could also be a gauge
of how successful the con might
be.

Would this be a good idea to bring back in a PR or a web
page, or in this
day of the internet and privacy concerns, is this no longer
wise?

 
Group: runacc Message: 2960 From: Betsy Marks Delaney Date: 9/27/2015
Subject: Re: membership list

Back in the dark ages, before Facebook was a thing, Costume-Con would often be the only time in a year we might see some of our friends, and it was nice to know who we’d be hanging out with.

I actually hate that in this day and age we have to worry about announcing to our friends we might be somewhere for fear that we might be taken advantage of at home.
I recognize also that I am a fossil and still prefer the paper to the electronic medium. With over 20,000 EMAIL messages (let alone the traffic on FB and elsewhere) I seldom open attachments or click through links unless I’ve asked for the material, because I’m not a fan of viruses or worms.
Honestly, I don’t remember the last time I read any of the electronic newsletters I’ve received. And that’s a sad thing.
I used to keep all the PRs when I received them, and I looked forward to getting those reminders that deadlines were coming up.
Yay, fewer dead trees. Boo, lost information and history.
Your mileage may vary.
Betsy

 

 

On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Stacey Lee staceylee25@yahoo.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I remember CC31 put it up on the website. We got together as a committee (I think it was even before our bid was certified) and agreed that 34 would NOT be doing that because of privacy concerns. Even if it was just a list of names, it’s too easy in the age of google and facebook to cross-reference that against people’s locations and put them at risk.

I suppose if the progress reports are only being privately emailed to registered members, then putting it in the prog report isn’t as big a risk. But then I have to ask…why? What’s the purpose of such a list? If you can’t remember if you registered, email the con (chair or head of registration) and ask. If it’s to rubberneck who else is going….well. Big deal. I can’t speak to others, of course, but for me, that’s useless info and I wouldn’t care. I’ll see people when I arrive at the con. I don’t have a burning need to know that ahead of time.

So I guess it comes down to: if it can be distributed safely via privately-emailed prog reports, then it’s up to the concom’s personal preference. I’m sure it wouldn’t take that much extra bandwidth, but it might take some poor secretary or registration head’s time to compile the list of names-only.

Stace
the poor secretary who might have to make that compilation.

——————————————–
On Sun, 9/27/15, runacc@yahoogroups.com <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
________________________________________________________________________
1a. New topic:  “Are you going?”
Posted by: “Nora & Bruce Mai” casamai@sbcglobal.net
casamai
Date: Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:40 pm ((PDT))

Many moons ago, a feature in the back of progress reports
was a list of
people who had bought memberships.   With
each PR, they were updated with
the latest list.   It was not only a good way
to learn who was going, but
also one way of determining if it was worth going to
(judging by who you
knew on the list)   It could also be a gauge
of how successful the con might
be.

Would this be a good idea to bring back in a PR or a web
page, or in this
day of the internet and privacy concerns, is this no longer
wise?

————————————
Posted by: Stacey Lee <staceylee25@yahoo.com>
————————————

View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
————————————

Yahoo Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/runacc/

<*> Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/runacc/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
runacc-digest@yahoogroups.com
runacc-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
runacc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo Groups is subject to:
https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/


—

Betsy Marks Delaney

http://www.hawkeswood.com/

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 2961 From: Kevin Roche Date: 9/27/2015
Subject: Re: New topic: “Are you going?”

I’m in favor of this technique (I should be, I wrote the code that generates it from the registration system.  🙂

The important part is the OPT-IN aspect. It also allows for the use of a fan name as opposed to legal name.
Kevin

 

On Sunday, September 27, 2015, Andrew Trembley attrembl@bovil.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Check out the roster section of http://www.sjin2018.org

It’s automatically fed from the reg database, and is opt-in with choice of listing real name or badge name.

On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 8:01 PM Trudy Leonard georgialei@hotmail.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

It was also helpful for those of us who couldn’t remember whether we’d already gotten our memberships. 😘

Trudy
Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

—- ‘Nora & Bruce Mai’ casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc] wrote —-

 

Many moons ago, a feature in the back of progress reports was a list of people who had bought memberships.   With each PR, they were updated with the latest list.   It was not only a good way to learn who was going, but also one way of
determining if it was worth going to (judging by who you knew on the list)   It could also be a gauge of how successful the con might be.

Would this be a good idea to bring back in a PR or a web page, or in this day of the internet and privacy concerns, is this no longer wise?

Go!

 

 

 

 

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 2962 From: Byron Connell Date: 9/27/2015
Subject: Re: membership list

 

As a fellow fossil, I too prefer paper over electrons.  To save postage, I normally print electronic PRs and save them.  I also agree that our society has reached yet another shameful place when an individual must fear letting others know about his or her itinerary.

 

I note that CC 33 kept a list of members on its web site.  However, I believe it was not fully up to date.  It also included both attending and supporting members, so the presence of a name did not assure that the individual would be at the con.  Sasquan did the same for all 10,000-odd attending and supporting members.  On a much smaller scale, so did Albacon 2014.5 (using badge names only).  MidAmeriCon II has a space on its web site for a members list; however, it has not populated it as of this afternoon.
Byron

 

 

On Sep 27, 2015, at 2:19 PM, Betsy Marks Delaney aramintamd@gmail.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Back in the dark ages, before Facebook was a thing, Costume-Con would often be the only time in a year we might see some of our friends, and it was nice to know who we’d be hanging out with.

I actually hate that in this day and age we have to worry about announcing to our friends we might be somewhere for fear that we might be taken advantage of at home.
I recognize also that I am a fossil and still prefer the paper to the electronic medium. With over 20,000 EMAIL messages (let alone the traffic on FB and elsewhere) I seldom open attachments or click through links unless I’ve asked for the material, because I’m not a fan of viruses or worms.
Honestly, I don’t remember the last time I read any of the electronic newsletters I’ve received. And that’s a sad thing.
I used to keep all the PRs when I received them, and I looked forward to getting those reminders that deadlines were coming up.
Yay, fewer dead trees. Boo, lost information and history.
Your mileage may vary.
Betsy

 

On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Stacey Lee staceylee25@yahoo.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I remember CC31 put it up on the website. We got together as a committee (I think it was even before our bid was certified) and agreed that 34 would NOT be doing that because of privacy concerns. Even if it was just a list of names, it’s too easy in the age of google and facebook to cross-reference that against people’s locations and put them at risk.

I suppose if the progress reports are only being privately emailed to registered members, then putting it in the prog report isn’t as big a risk. But then I have to ask…why? What’s the purpose of such a list? If you can’t remember if you registered, email the con (chair or head of registration) and ask. If it’s to rubberneck who else is going….well. Big deal. I can’t speak to others, of course, but for me, that’s useless info and I wouldn’t care. I’ll see people when I arrive at the con. I don’t have a burning need to know that ahead of time.

So I guess it comes down to: if it can be distributed safely via privately-emailed prog reports, then it’s up to the concom’s personal preference. I’m sure it wouldn’t take that much extra bandwidth, but it might take some poor secretary or registration head’s time to compile the list of names-only.

Stace
the poor secretary who might have to make that compilation.

——————————————–
On Sun, 9/27/15, runacc@yahoogroups.com <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 ________________________________________________________________________
 1a. New topic:  “Are you going?”
     Posted by: “Nora & Bruce Mai” casamai@sbcglobal.net
 casamai
     Date: Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:40 pm ((PDT))

 Many moons ago, a feature in the back of progress reports
 was a list of
 people who had bought memberships.   With
 each PR, they were updated with
 the latest list.   It was not only a good way
 to learn who was going, but
 also one way of determining if it was worth going to
 (judging by who you
 knew on the list)   It could also be a gauge
 of how successful the con might
 be.



 Would this be a good idea to bring back in a PR or a web
 page, or in this
 day of the internet and privacy concerns, is this no longer
 wise?




————————————
Posted by: Stacey Lee <staceylee25@yahoo.com>
————————————

View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
————————————

Yahoo Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/runacc/

<*> Your email settings:
    Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/runacc/join
    (Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
    runacc-digest@yahoogroups.com
    runacc-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    runacc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo Groups is subject to:
    https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/



— 

Betsy Marks Delaney

http://www.hawkeswood.com/

 

 

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 2963 From: Andrew Trembley Date: 9/28/2015
Subject: Re: membership list

Well…

The regulars go, regardless of who else is going.

But if I was a random fan, and CC was, say, 100 miles away from me, and I didn’t know much about it, knowing I might see some (or many) local/regional friends there might be enough to get me to decide to sign up.

That’s he marketing rationale.

 

On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 2:07 PM Byron Connell byronpconnell@gmail.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

As a fellow fossil, I too prefer paper over electrons.  To save postage, I normally print electronic PRs and save them.  I also agree that our society has reached yet another shameful place when an individual must fear letting others know about his or her itinerary.

I note that CC 33 kept a list of members on its web site.  However, I believe it was not fully up to date.  It also included both attending and supporting members, so the presence of a name did not assure that the individual would be at the con.  Sasquan did the same for all 10,000-odd attending and supporting members.  On a much smaller scale, so did Albacon 2014.5 (using badge names only).  MidAmeriCon II has a space on its web site for a members list; however, it has not populated it as of this afternoon.
Byron

 

On Sep 27, 2015, at 2:19 PM, Betsy Marks Delaney aramintamd@gmail.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Back in the dark ages, before Facebook was a thing, Costume-Con would often be the only time in a year we might see some of our friends, and it was nice to know who we’d be hanging out with.

I actually hate that in this day and age we have to worry about announcing to our friends we might be somewhere for fear that we might be taken advantage of at home.
I recognize also that I am a fossil and still prefer the paper to the electronic medium. With over 20,000 EMAIL messages (let alone the traffic on FB and elsewhere) I seldom open attachments or click through links unless I’ve asked for the material, because I’m not a fan of viruses or worms.
Honestly, I don’t remember the last time I read any of the electronic newsletters I’ve received. And that’s a sad thing.
I used to keep all the PRs when I received them, and I looked forward to getting those reminders that deadlines were coming up.
Yay, fewer dead trees. Boo, lost information and history.
Your mileage may vary.
Betsy

 

On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Stacey Lee staceylee25@yahoo.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I remember CC31 put it up on the website. We got together as a committee (I think it was even before our bid was certified) and agreed that 34 would NOT be doing that because of privacy concerns. Even if it was just a list of names, it’s too easy in the age of google and facebook to cross-reference that against people’s locations and put them at risk.

I suppose if the progress reports are only being privately emailed to registered members, then putting it in the prog report isn’t as big a risk. But then I have to ask…why? What’s the purpose of such a list? If you can’t remember if you registered, email the con (chair or head of registration) and ask. If it’s to rubberneck who else is going….well. Big deal. I can’t speak to others, of course, but for me, that’s useless info and I wouldn’t care. I’ll see people when I arrive at the con. I don’t have a burning need to know that ahead of time.

So I guess it comes down to: if it can be distributed safely via privately-emailed prog reports, then it’s up to the concom’s personal preference. I’m sure it wouldn’t take that much extra bandwidth, but it might take some poor secretary or registration head’s time to compile the list of names-only.

Stace
the poor secretary who might have to make that compilation.

——————————————–
On Sun, 9/27/15, runacc@yahoogroups.com <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 ________________________________________________________________________
 1a. New topic:  “Are you going?”
     Posted by: “Nora & Bruce Mai” casamai@sbcglobal.net
 casamai
     Date: Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:40 pm ((PDT))

 Many moons ago, a feature in the back of progress reports
 was a list of
 people who had bought memberships.   With
 each PR, they were updated with
 the latest list.   It was not only a good way
 to learn who was going, but
 also one way of determining if it was worth going to
 (judging by who you
 knew on the list)   It could also be a gauge
 of how successful the con might
 be.



 Would this be a good idea to bring back in a PR or a web
 page, or in this
 day of the internet and privacy concerns, is this no longer
 wise?




————————————
Posted by: Stacey Lee <staceylee25@yahoo.com>
————————————

View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
————————————

Yahoo Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/runacc/

<*> Your email settings:
    Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/runacc/join
    (Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
    runacc-digest@yahoogroups.com
    runacc-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    runacc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo Groups is subject to:
    https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/



—

Betsy Marks Delaney

http://www.hawkeswood.com/

 

 

 

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 2964 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 9/28/2015
Subject: Re: membership list

If you were searching for roommates or folks to include in a presentation,
such a list would be helpful.

—–Original Message—–
From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 12:00 PM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [runacc] membership list

I remember CC31 put it up on the website. We got together as a committee (I
think it was even before our bid was certified) and agreed that 34 would NOT
be doing that because of privacy concerns. Even if it was just a list of
names, it’s too easy in the age of google and facebook to cross-reference
that against people’s locations and put them at risk.

I suppose if the progress reports are only being privately emailed to
registered members, then putting it in the prog report isn’t as big a risk.
But then I have to ask…why? What’s the purpose of such a list? If you
can’t remember if you registered, email the con (chair or head of
registration) and ask. If it’s to rubberneck who else is going….well. Big
deal. I can’t speak to others, of course, but for me, that’s useless info
and I wouldn’t care. I’ll see people when I arrive at the con. I don’t have
a burning need to know that ahead of time.

So I guess it comes down to: if it can be distributed safely via
privately-emailed prog reports, then it’s up to the concom’s personal
preference. I’m sure it wouldn’t take that much extra bandwidth, but it
might take some poor secretary or registration head’s time to compile the
list of names-only.

Stace
the poor secretary who might have to make that compilation.

——————————————–

On Sun, 9/27/15, runacc@yahoogroups.com <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
________________________________________________________________________
1a. New topic:  “Are you going?”
Posted by: “Nora & Bruce Mai” casamai@sbcglobal.net
casamai
Date: Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:40 pm ((PDT))

Many moons ago, a feature in the back of progress reports
was a list of
people who had bought memberships.   With
each PR, they were updated with
the latest list.   It was not only a good way
to learn who was going, but
also one way of determining if it was worth going to
(judging by who you
knew on the list)   It could also be a gauge
of how successful the con might
be.

Would this be a good idea to bring back in a PR or a web
page, or in this
day of the internet and privacy concerns, is this no longer
wise?

————————————
Posted by: Stacey Lee <staceylee25@yahoo.com>
————————————

View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
————————————

Yahoo Groups Links

 
Group: runacc Message: 2965 From: grizzy1955 Date: 10/16/2015
Subject: BIDS FOR COSTUME-CON 37 NEEDED

 

Cross-posting…I know y’all have put in years of service already, but please help me shake the trees for 2019…

LOOKING FOR BIDS FOR COSTUME-CON 37. (Site selection to be voted upon at Costume-Con 34 in May 2016.)

Bidding for Costume-Con 37 is open through November 17, 2015 (180 days prior to Costume-Con 34). So far, I have not received proposed bids from any potential committees.

I have received proposals for bids for Costume-Con 38 and 39 in 2020 and 2021, but we need a Costume-Con in 2019 first.

…

Seated committees are:
Costume-Con 34 (2016) – Madison, WI
Costume-Con 35 (2017) – Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Costume-Con 36 (2018) – San Diego, CA

I would love to see a bid come out of the Northeast or Northwest (I’m looking at YOU, Boston and Seattle!), but I would be happy with ANY bid at this point.

Please discuss amongst yourselves, and share this post to appropriate groups.

For info on how to bid for a Costume-Con, go here:
http://www.costume-con.org/constitution.shtml

Thanks!

–Karen Schnaubelt

 

 

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 2966 From: axejudge Date: 10/25/2015
Subject: SD CC

Are there members of the San Diego concom on the list?

 

I have had inquiries about finding information about the con (dates, etc.), but was told there wasn’t an easily accessible web presence (website, something on either Costume-Con site).

 

Now that it’s an official upcoming CC, these things should be put in place.  If they are, and my friend just didn’t have good Google-fu, please post the sites here.

 

Karen

 
Group: runacc Message: 2967 From: beckieboo817 Date: 10/25/2015
Subject: Re: SD CC

I just googled and it comes up, not at the top of the page but it does come up. It’s just that at the moment, it’s giving a database error and I’m trying to figure out why this error keeps coming up and what we can do to keep it from happening.  It’s been up since around the 4th of July.

We also have a facebook page and if I remember correctly, it also has a link that people can buy their memberships.
cc36sandiego.org
 

 
Group: runacc Message: 2968 From: Kevin Roche Date: 10/26/2015
Subject: Re: SD CC

Hi Becky, I went to your admin login page (cc36sandiego.org/wp-admin) and the error message there explains a bit more:

Error establishing a database connection

This either means that the username and password information in your wp-config.php file is incorrect or we can’t contact the database server at localhost. This could mean your host’s database server is down.

  • Are you sure you have the correct username and password?
  • Are you sure that you have typed the correct hostname?
  • Are you sure that the database server is running?

If you’re unsure what these terms mean you should probably contact your host. If you still need help you can always visit the WordPress Support Forums.

 

 

Kevin

 

On Sunday, October 25, 2015, beckieboo817@yahoo.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I just googled and it comes up, not at the top of the page but it does come up. It’s just that at the moment, it’s giving a database error and I’m trying to figure out why this error keeps coming up and what we can do to keep it from happening.  It’s been up since around the 4th of July.

We also have a facebook page and if I remember correctly, it also has a link that people can buy their memberships.
cc36sandiego.org
 

 

 

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 2969 From: ssbarsky Date: 11/17/2015
Subject: Re: BIDS FOR COSTUME-CON 37 NEEDED
Hi everyone, I just joined this group.

Aurora Celeste and I are working with MCFI, NoEl, TF, and other interested people in bidding a Costume-Con for 2019.

If anyone can provide useful facilities information, i.e. room block sizes, function space, etc., that would be very useful.

Thanks in advance.

Sharon Sbarsky

 
Group: runacc Message: 2970 From: Byron Connell Date: 11/18/2015
Subject: New Member
Sharon Sbarsky, welcome to the group.

Byron

 
Group: runacc Message: 2971 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 12/20/2015
Subject: Con Suite Food notes

 

 

A note for future CC Con Suite folks.

Over the years, we’ve seen some really good ones, where you could pretty much skip going to the hotel restaurant, and there have been some disappointing ones where it’s the same stuff no matter what time of day.  Obviously, it really depends on the con budget and the imagination of the staff, but here are a few thoughts that will make a better experience.   Add your own thoughts to the thread.

Unless you have a deal where you can return stuff purchased, stick to name-brand soft drinks.   People prefer what they’re familiar with.

Local brand snacks are okay, but again, may not be eaten as much as what is familiar.

Consider providing more protein – con suites often have too many carbohydrates.   Simple summer sausage and cheese plates are good.  That said, simple bread and butter goes over REALLY well, especially if it’s “fresh” baked, rather than from the grocery store.   Or even stuff for making a  simple sandwich is also a good choice.

Keep in mind you can’t, and shouldn’t, cater to everyone’s dietary needs.

Planning and organization is key.   If the con suite staff decides to prepare a breakfast instead of having the hotel provide it, make sure the staff is in the suite early enough to have the breakfast ready when the room opens.   Early people get cranky if they’re made to wait.

I had one other thought, but for the life of me, I couldn’t remember what it was – I’ve had this sitting in “Draft” for a few weeks, so I give up.

Bruce

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 2972 From: Byron Connell Date: 12/20/2015
Subject: Re: Con Suite Food notes

 

All good suggestions.  However, the first thing to do is read the contract with your venue to see what limitation it places on your ability to stock the con suite.  Does it require that you exclusively use the venue’s catering department in all function spaces?

 

Assuming your contract does not prevent you from doing so, try to get as many sponsors for the con suite as you can, including bids for future CCs, clubs (both ICG chapters and SF/Fantasy clubs have done so), and other related organizations.  They may bring a distinctive local/regional air to the con suite they sponsor.  (Who can forget fried ravs?)  However, if you push the cost of sponsorship too high you may scare off some potential sponsors.  (The Pups decided the cost of sponsorship at CC 33 was more than we could afford.)
Byron

 

 

On Dec 20, 2015, at 10:41 AM, ‘Nora & Bruce Mai’ casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

A note for future CC Con Suite folks.

Over the years, we’ve seen some really good ones, where you could pretty much skip going to the hotel restaurant, and there have been some disappointing ones where it’s the same stuff no matter what time of day.  Obviously, it really depends on the con budget and the imagination of the staff, but here are a few thoughts that will make a better experience.   Add your own thoughts to the thread.

Unless you have a deal where you can return stuff purchased, stick to name-brand soft drinks.   People prefer what they’re familiar with.  

Local brand snacks are okay, but again, may not be eaten as much as what is familiar.

Consider providing more protein – con suites often have too many carbohydrates.   Simple summer sausage and cheese plates are good.  That said, simple bread and butter goes over REALLY well, especially if it’s “fresh” baked, rather than from the grocery store.   Or even stuff for making a  simple sandwich is also a good choice.

Keep in mind you can’t, and shouldn’t, cater to everyone’s dietary needs.

Planning and organization is key.   If the con suite staff decides to prepare a breakfast instead of having the hotel provide it, make sure the staff is in the suite early enough to have the breakfast ready when the room opens.   Early people get cranky if they’re made to wait.

I had one other thought, but for the life of me, I couldn’t remember what it was – I’ve had this sitting in “Draft” for a few weeks, so I give up.

Bruce

 

 

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 2973 From: beckieboo817 Date: 1/1/2016
Subject: Costume Con 36

Hi, everyone and Happy New Year…

 

I would like to get some of my staff and upper management on to this group….How do I go about doing that?

 
Group: runacc Message: 2974 From: Betsy Marks Delaney Date: 1/2/2016
Subject: Re: Costume Con 36

Shoot me their email addresses.

I think Karen is also admin.

Thanks!

Betsy

 

On Jan 1, 2016 8:48 PM, “beckieboo817@yahoo.com [runacc]” <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi, everyone and Happy New Year…

 

I would like to get some of my staff and upper management on to this group….How do I go about doing that?

 

 

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 2975 From: beckieboo817 Date: 1/18/2016
Subject: Attendance and room counts

Hi everyone,

 

This is a question for the last 5 – 6 years of costume cons. I’m needing to give my supporting 501C3  reassurances of how viable a costume con is. So, would the people who have the info let me know what their attendance numbers were for their conventions and rooms sold and if possible what their room nights were for each night the week of the con?  I’m trying to prepare a report to give them.

 

I know the numbers for CC30. I’ve had some feed back from Kevin on hotel contracts and I think numbers. I know Dawn has told me some of what she has. But I’d still like a more complete picture.

 

So, what were the attendance numbers?

What were the total rooms sold? Can you break it down per night?

Did you break even or made a profit?  Or did you lose money?

 

I would appreciate any and all help.

 
Group: runacc Message: 2976 From: marg1066 Date: 1/19/2016
Subject: Re: Attendance and room counts

Any more numbers or details that I can give you, please let me know! Happy to help.

-Marg in Phoenix (CC30)

 
Group: runacc Message: 2977 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 1/24/2016
Subject: Re: Attendance and room counts

 

 

I could probably dig up figures for CC25, but they’re probably a little too out of date.  However, I can tell you that the region where you’re holding your Cc and whether there has been one there in the past will have a bearing on said numbers.

 

Bruce

 

From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 9:03 PM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [runacc] Attendance and room counts

Hi everyone,

 

This is a question for the last 5 – 6 years of costume cons. I’m needing to give my supporting 501C3  reassurances of how viable a costume con is. So, would the people who have the info let me know what their attendance numbers were for their conventions and rooms sold and if possible what their room nights were for each night the week of the con?  I’m trying to prepare a report to give them.

 

I know the numbers for CC30. I’ve had some feed back from Kevin on hotel contracts and I think numbers. I know Dawn has told me some of what she has. But I’d still like a more complete picture.

 

So, what were the attendance numbers?

What were the total rooms sold? Can you break it down per night?

Did you break even or made a profit?  Or did you lose money?

 

I would appreciate any and all help.

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 2978 From: Byron P Connell Date: 1/31/2016
Subject: Proposal for a New ICG Special Interest Group on Masquerade Running
I’m looking for persons interested in being part of an International Costumers’ Guild Special Interest Group for those of us involved in organizing, directing, and/or providing support for masquerades or similar stage costume competitions on the local, regional, and international-competition levels. The SIG would provide a forum for discussion of ways to run masquerades, improve them, introduce and consider new ideas or approaches, and so forth. Any ICG member interested in the topic would be welcome, especially those who are part of the RunaCC Yahoo group, as would both novice and experienced masquerade directors, MCs, tech directors and staff, stage ninjas, green room staff, masquerade judges, and interested masquerade participants or audience members. (After all, we want to know what our audience want and how to improve their experience.) Activity likely would be mostly electronic, although face-to-face events at cons and other venues certainly would be possible.

For myself, I’m a member of three ICG chapters: the Armed Costumers’ Guild, the Sick Pups, and the SLUTs, and have run too many masquerade green rooms to count, as well as directed two worldcon masquerades (Anticipation and Chicon V) and masquerades at Arisia, Philcon, and Albacon, and two SF masquerades and three historical masquerades at Costume-Cons.

To start the SIG, I need five ICG members in addition to myself to serve as our charter members. If you’d like to take part in this, please get back to me with your name, mailing and e-mail addresses, and ICG chapter. If you’re part of the RunaCC Yahoo group, please say so.

If I get five charter members, I’ll draft an application for ICG recognition and share the draft with them for review before we submit it.

Byron Connell
50 Dove Street, Albany, NY 12210-1811
New Jersey/New York Costumers’ Guild

 
Group: runacc Message: 2979 From: Sarah Bloy Date: 2/6/2016
Subject: Paging the CC36 Staff
Greetings, all!

I’m trying to get a hold of the staff for Costume Con 34.  It seems the form on their website doesn’t actually lead anywhere.

Can anyone give me a direct email?  CC34 has questions and stuff and things.

Sarah Bloy

CC34 Chair

 
Group: runacc Message: 2980 From: Byron Connell Date: 2/6/2016
Subject: Re: Paging the CC36 Staff

 

Rebecca Rowan is chair of CC 36. She’s at rebecca8175@gmail.com.

 

Elaine Mami is vice-chair. She’s at ecmami@hotmail.com.
Byron

 

 

On Feb 6, 2016, at 3:31 PM, Sarah Bloy berzerker.prime@gmail.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Greetings, all!

I’m trying to get a hold of the staff for Costume Con 34.  It seems the form on their website doesn’t actually lead anywhere.

Can anyone give me a direct email?  CC34 has questions and stuff and things.

Sarah Bloy

CC34 Chair

 

 

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 2981 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 2/7/2016
Subject: An interesting Fashion Show layout

 

 

Something some committee might like to explore for a  FFS sometime?  Only problem could be lighting, but I’ve seen worse.

Bruce

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 2982 From: Byron Connell Date: 2/7/2016
Subject: Re: An interesting Fashion Show layout

 

Interesting format.  It has possibilities, I think. (Unlike some of the fashions on display.)

 

Byron

 

 

On Feb 7, 2016, at 2:17 PM, ‘Nora & Bruce Mai’ casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Something some committee might like to explore for a  FFS sometime?  Only problem could be lighting, but I’ve seen worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=praegJ_sFmE

Bruce

 

 

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 2983 From: spiritof_76 Date: 2/8/2016
Subject: Re: An interesting Fashion Show layout

That would push it more toward fashion show than masquerade, but only
the people in the front row will see anything below the waist.

Michael

On 2016-02-07 11:17, ‘Nora & Bruce Mai’ casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc]
wrote:

> Something some committee might like to explore for a FFS sometime?
> Only problem could be lighting, but I’ve seen worse.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=praegJ_sFmE
>
> Bruce

 
Group: runacc Message: 2984 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 2/9/2016
Subject: Re: An interesting Fashion Show layout

Um, that’s why it’s called the Future FASHION Show?

It appears that no one was more than a row or two away. Risers could be used, if there were enough of them.

Bruce

—–Original Message—–
From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 9:02 PM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [runacc] An interesting Fashion Show layout

That would push it more toward fashion show than masquerade, but only the people in the front row will see anything below the waist.

Michael

On 2016-02-07 11:17, ‘Nora & Bruce Mai’ casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc]
wrote:

> Something some committee might like to explore for a FFS sometime?
> Only problem could be lighting, but I’ve seen worse.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=praegJ_sFmE
>
> Bruce

————————————
Posted by: bruno@soulmasque.com
————————————

View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
————————————

Yahoo Groups Links

 
Group: runacc Message: 2985 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 2/9/2016
Subject: Re: Paging the CC36 Staff

 

 

I assume that’s “CC36” in a CC34 kind of way?   🙂

 

From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 2:31 PM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [runacc] Paging the CC36 Staff

Greetings, all!

I’m trying to get a hold of the staff for Costume Con 34.  It seems the form on their website doesn’t actually lead anywhere.

Can anyone give me a direct email?  CC34 has questions and stuff and things.

Sarah Bloy

CC34 Chair

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 2986 From: spiritof_76 Date: 2/10/2016
Subject: Re: An interesting Fashion Show layout

I agree. I think it should be more fashion show and less masquerade.

Michael

On 2016-02-09 20:12, ‘Nora & Bruce Mai’ casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc]
wrote:

> Um, that’s why it’s called the Future FASHION Show?
>
> It appears that no one was more than a row or two away. Risers could
> be used, if there were enough of them.
>
> Bruce
>
> —–Original Message—–
> From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 9:02 PM
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [runacc] An interesting Fashion Show layout
>
> That would push it more toward fashion show than masquerade, but only
> the people in the front row will see anything below the waist.
>
> Michael
>

 
Group: runacc Message: 2987 From: Kaijugal . Date: 2/12/2016
Subject: Re: Proposal for a New ICG Special Interest Group on Masquerade Runn

 

Wow Byron. That’s an AMAZING idea. I love it.

Dawn McKechnie – President – Fibre Fantasy Artists of Canada

CC: byronpconnell@gmail.com
To: ICG-D@yahoogroups.com; sick-pups@yahoogroups.com; SLCG-X@yahoogroups.com; ArmedCostumers@yahoogroups.com; runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 21:46:11 -0500
Subject: [runacc] Proposal for a New ICG Special Interest Group on Masquerade Running

 

I’m looking for persons interested in being part of an International Costumers’ Guild Special Interest Group for those of us involved in organizing, directing, and/or providing support for masquerades or similar stage costume competitions on the local, regional, and international-competition levels. The SIG would provide a forum for discussion of ways to run masquerades, improve them, introduce and consider new ideas or approaches, and so forth. Any ICG member interested in the topic would be welcome, especially those who are part of the RunaCC Yahoo group, as would both novice and experienced masquerade directors, MCs, tech directors and staff, stage ninjas, green room staff, masquerade judges, and interested masquerade participants or audience members. (After all, we want to know what our audience want and how to improve their experience.) Activity likely would be mostly electronic, although face-to-face events at cons and other venues certainly would be possible.

For myself, I’m a member of three ICG chapters: the Armed Costumers’ Guild, the Sick Pups, and the SLUTs, and have run too many masquerade green rooms to count, as well as directed two worldcon masquerades (Anticipation and Chicon V) and masquerades at Arisia, Philcon, and Albacon, and two SF masquerades and three historical masquerades at Costume-Cons.

To start the SIG, I need five ICG members in addition to myself to serve as our charter members. If you’d like to take part in this, please get back to me with your name, mailing and e-mail addresses, and ICG chapter. If you’re part of the RunaCC Yahoo group, please say so.

If I get five charter members, I’ll draft an application for ICG recognition and share the draft with them for review before we submit it.

Byron Connell
50 Dove Street, Albany, NY 12210-1811
New Jersey/New York Costumers’ Guild

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 2988 From: Byron Connell Date: 2/12/2016
Subject: Re: Proposal for a New ICG Special Interest Group on Masquerade Runn

 

I’ll add you to the list of charter members.

 

Byron

 

 

On Feb 12, 2016, at 2:27 AM, ‘Kaijugal .’ kaijugal@hotmail.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Wow Byron. That’s an AMAZING idea. I love it.

Dawn McKechnie – President – Fibre Fantasy Artists of Canada



CC: byronpconnell@gmail.com
To: ICG-D@yahoogroups.com; sick-pups@yahoogroups.com; SLCG-X@yahoogroups.com; ArmedCostumers@yahoogroups.com; runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 21:46:11 -0500
Subject: [runacc] Proposal for a New ICG Special Interest Group on Masquerade Running

 

I’m looking for persons interested in being part of an International Costumers’ Guild Special Interest Group for those of us involved in organizing, directing, and/or providing support for masquerades or similar stage costume competitions on the local, regional, and international-competition levels. The SIG would provide a forum for discussion of ways to run masquerades, improve them, introduce and consider new ideas or approaches, and so forth. Any ICG member interested in the topic would be welcome, especially those who are part of the RunaCC Yahoo group, as would both novice and experienced masquerade directors, MCs, tech directors and staff, stage ninjas, green room staff, masquerade judges, and interested masquerade participants or audience members. (After all, we want to know what our audience want and how to improve their experience.) Activity likely would be mostly electronic, although face-to-face events at cons and other venues certainly would be possible. 

For myself, I’m a member of three ICG chapters: the Armed Costumers’ Guild, the Sick Pups, and the SLUTs, and have run too many masquerade green rooms to count, as well as directed two worldcon masquerades (Anticipation and Chicon V) and masquerades at Arisia, Philcon, and Albacon, and two SF masquerades and three historical masquerades at Costume-Cons. 

To start the SIG, I need five ICG members in addition to myself to serve as our charter members. If you’d like to take part in this, please get back to me with your name, mailing and e-mail addresses, and ICG chapter. If you’re part of the RunaCC Yahoo group, please say so.

If I get five charter members, I’ll draft an application for ICG recognition and share the draft with them for review before we submit it. 

Byron Connell
50 Dove Street, Albany, NY 12210-1811
New Jersey/New York Costumers’ Guild  

 

 

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 2989 From: beckieboo817 Date: 3/22/2016
Subject: Size of main event room

Hi, everyone,

This is for previous runners of Costume Cons….
What was the size of your main event room?  7,000?  8,000? 9,000?
I finally submitted my RFP to the local visitors and convention bureau and have this room being 10,000 square feet.  Of course, some of my favorite choices are coming back saying they can’t host because they don’t meet the requirements….I’m thinking I’m needing to drop this down a bit. One place with 9,600 sq ft could seat 1,000 theater style and that’s what we want, right?

 

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 2990 From: Betsy Marks Delaney Date: 3/22/2016
Subject: Re: Size of main event room

Not necessarily. Remember that a portion of your audience is actually likely to be on stage or backstage, so extra large space may not be as necessary as you think. Even with the larger cons, you want enough space for the stage and seating for those who aren’t competing, plus those who finished the competition but want to watch after they’re done with fan photo.

CCXV ran into trouble when we had over 100 bodies in competition at the SF masquerade, because the green room wasn’t large enough to handle everyone comfortably. I still regret making that error in judgment when estimating the spaces to use for supporting the masquerade.
How large is your stage expected to be? How much space will you need for lights? Tech? Judges?
How big have the last five CCs been at the SF masquerade and how many of those were onstage first?
Betsy

 

 

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:10 AM, beckieboo817@yahoo.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi, everyone,

This is for previous runners of Costume Cons….
What was the size of your main event room?  7,000?  8,000? 9,000?
I finally submitted my RFP to the local visitors and convention bureau and have this room being 10,000 square feet.  Of course, some of my favorite choices are coming back saying they can’t host because they don’t meet the requirements….I’m thinking I’m needing to drop this down a bit. One place with 9,600 sq ft could seat 1,000 theater style and that’s what we want, right?

 

 

 

 


—

Betsy Marks Delaney

http://www.hawkeswood.com/

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 2991 From: Sarah A Bloy Date: 3/22/2016
Subject: Re: Size of main event room

 

If it helps, ours for this year is 9600, which is more than we anticipate actually needing.

 

On March 22, 2016, at 9:31 AM, “Betsy Marks Delaney aramintamd@gmail.com [runacc]” <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

Not necessarily. Remember that a portion of your audience is actually likely to be on stage or backstage, so extra large space may not be as necessary as you think. Even with the larger cons, you want enough space for the stage and seating for those who aren’t competing, plus those who finished the competition but want to watch after they’re done with fan photo.

CCXV ran into trouble when we had over 100 bodies in competition at the SF masquerade, because the green room wasn’t large enough to handle everyone comfortably. I still regret making that error in judgment when estimating the spaces to use for supporting the masquerade.
How large is your stage expected to be? How much space will you need for lights? Tech? Judges?
How big have the last five CCs been at the SF masquerade and how many of those were onstage first?
Betsy

 

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:10 AM, beckieboo817@yahoo.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi, everyone,

This is for previous runners of Costume Cons….
What was the size of your main event room?  7,000?  8,000? 9,000?
I finally submitted my RFP to the local visitors and convention bureau and have this room being 10,000 square feet.  Of course, some of my favorite choices are coming back saying they can’t host because they don’t meet the requirements….I’m thinking I’m needing to drop this down a bit. One place with 9,600 sq ft could seat 1,000 theater style and that’s what we want, right?

 

 

 

 


—

Betsy Marks Delaney

http://www.hawkeswood.com/

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 2992 From: Nora & Bruce Mai Date: 3/22/2016
Subject: Re: Size of main event room

Ask Kevin how big their main room was – I’d guess his numbers would align with yours best.

Nora

From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:52 PM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [runacc] Size of main event room

If it helps, ours for this year is 9600, which is more than we anticipate actually needing.

On March 22, 2016, at 9:31 AM, “Betsy Marks Delaney aramintamd@gmail.com [runacc]” <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Not necessarily. Remember that a portion of your audience is actually likely to be on stage or backstage, so extra large space may not be as necessary as you think. Even with the larger cons, you want enough space for the stage and seating for those who aren’t competing, plus those who finished the competition but want to watch after they’re done with fan photo.

CCXV ran into trouble when we had over 100 bodies in competition at the SF masquerade, because the green room wasn’t large enough to handle everyone comfortably. I still regret making that error in judgment when estimating the spaces to use for supporting the masquerade.

How large is your stage expected to be? How much space will you need for lights? Tech? Judges?

How big have the last five CCs been at the SF masquerade and how many of those were onstage first?

Betsy

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:10 AM, beckieboo817@yahoo.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi, everyone,

This is for previous runners of Costume Cons….

What was the size of your main event room? 7,000? 8,000? 9,000?

I finally submitted my RFP to the local visitors and convention bureau and have this room being 10,000 square feet. Of course, some of my favorite choices are coming back saying they can’t host because they don’t meet the requirements….I’m thinking I’m needing to drop this down a bit. One place with 9,600 sq ft could seat 1,000 theater style and that’s what we want, right?

—

Betsy Marks Delaney

http://www.hawkeswood.com/

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 
Group: runacc Message: 2993 From: Kevin Roche Date: 3/22/2016
Subject: Re: Size of main event room

My 3d models are still available in the Google Sketchup 3d world!

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/collection.html?id=50f5306ccaab25a2fbf563775e4f7513

The Doubletree had two ballrooms with the same dimensions (but the lower floor had columns), so I modeled both for different uses.

Overall dimensions were approximately 71×142=10000 sq.ft. across four equal bays; we split one off for the green room and did a wide house design for the main stage, and used that all weekend. We used part of the lower ballroom for the fashion show, and part for the dealers room. All the models are in the collection.

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model.html?id=3eae15a409ccc3f139ab9a829112caca

Kevin

Kevin

 

 

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 3:31 PM, ‘Nora & Bruce Mai’ casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Ask Kevin how big their main room was – I’d guess his numbers would align with yours best.

Nora

From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:52 PM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [runacc] Size of main event room

If it helps, ours for this year is 9600, which is more than we anticipate actually needing.

On March 22, 2016, at 9:31 AM, “Betsy Marks Delaney aramintamd@gmail.com [runacc]” <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Not necessarily. Remember that a portion of your audience is actually likely to be on stage or backstage, so extra large space may not be as necessary as you think. Even with the larger cons, you want enough space for the stage and seating for those who aren’t competing, plus those who finished the competition but want to watch after they’re done with fan photo.

CCXV ran into trouble when we had over 100 bodies in competition at the SF masquerade, because the green room wasn’t large enough to handle everyone comfortably. I still regret making that error in judgment when estimating the spaces to use for supporting the masquerade.

How large is your stage expected to be? How much space will you need for lights? Tech? Judges?

How big have the last five CCs been at the SF masquerade and how many of those were onstage first?

Betsy

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:10 AM, beckieboo817@yahoo.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi, everyone,

This is for previous runners of Costume Cons….

What was the size of your main event room?  7,000?  8,000? 9,000?

I finally submitted my RFP to the local visitors and convention bureau and have this room being 10,000 square feet.  Of course, some of my favorite choices are coming back saying they can’t host because they don’t meet the requirements….I’m thinking I’m needing to drop this down a bit. One place with 9,600 sq ft could seat 1,000 theater style and that’s what we want, right?

—

Betsy Marks Delaney

http://www.hawkeswood.com/

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

————————————
Posted by: “Nora & Bruce Mai” <casamai@sbcglobal.net>
————————————

View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
————————————

Yahoo Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/runacc/

<*> Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/runacc/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
runacc-digest@yahoogroups.com
runacc-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
runacc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo Groups is subject to:
https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 2994 From: ECM Date: 3/22/2016
Subject: Re: Size of main event room

 

Part of that sq footage will be used for green room & tech, but it’s plenty big enough.  As Betsy said, a huge percentage of the members won’t be sitting in those seats.

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:51:53 -0500
Subject: Re: [runacc] Size of main event room

 

 

If it helps, ours for this year is 9600, which is more than we anticipate actually needing.

On March 22, 2016, at 9:31 AM, “Betsy Marks Delaney aramintamd@gmail.com [runacc]” <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

Not necessarily. Remember that a portion of your audience is actually likely to be on stage or backstage, so extra large space may not be as necessary as you think. Even with the larger cons, you want enough space for the stage and seating for those who aren’t competing, plus those who finished the competition but want to watch after they’re done with fan photo.

CCXV ran into trouble when we had over 100 bodies in competition at the SF masquerade, because the green room wasn’t large enough to handle everyone comfortably. I still regret making that error in judgment when estimating the spaces to use for supporting the masquerade.
How large is your stage expected to be? How much space will you need for lights? Tech? Judges?
How big have the last five CCs been at the SF masquerade and how many of those were onstage first?
Betsy

 

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:10 AM, beckieboo817@yahoo.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi, everyone,

This is for previous runners of Costume Cons….
What was the size of your main event room?  7,000?  8,000? 9,000?
I finally submitted my RFP to the local visitors and convention bureau and have this room being 10,000 square feet.  Of course, some of my favorite choices are coming back saying they can’t host because they don’t meet the requirements….I’m thinking I’m needing to drop this down a bit. One place with 9,600 sq ft could seat 1,000 theater style and that’s what we want, right?

 

 

 

 


—

Betsy Marks Delaney

http://www.hawkeswood.com/

 

 

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 2995 From: ECM Date: 3/22/2016
Subject: Re: Size of main event room

 

Part of that space will be used for green room & tech.  And, as Betsy said, a large number of those members won’t be using those seats anyway.

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:51:53 -0500
Subject: Re: [runacc] Size of main event room

 

 

If it helps, ours for this year is 9600, which is more than we anticipate actually needing.

On March 22, 2016, at 9:31 AM, “Betsy Marks Delaney aramintamd@gmail.com [runacc]” <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

Not necessarily. Remember that a portion of your audience is actually likely to be on stage or backstage, so extra large space may not be as necessary as you think. Even with the larger cons, you want enough space for the stage and seating for those who aren’t competing, plus those who finished the competition but want to watch after they’re done with fan photo.

CCXV ran into trouble when we had over 100 bodies in competition at the SF masquerade, because the green room wasn’t large enough to handle everyone comfortably. I still regret making that error in judgment when estimating the spaces to use for supporting the masquerade.
How large is your stage expected to be? How much space will you need for lights? Tech? Judges?
How big have the last five CCs been at the SF masquerade and how many of those were onstage first?
Betsy

 

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:10 AM, beckieboo817@yahoo.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi, everyone,

This is for previous runners of Costume Cons….
What was the size of your main event room?  7,000?  8,000? 9,000?
I finally submitted my RFP to the local visitors and convention bureau and have this room being 10,000 square feet.  Of course, some of my favorite choices are coming back saying they can’t host because they don’t meet the requirements….I’m thinking I’m needing to drop this down a bit. One place with 9,600 sq ft could seat 1,000 theater style and that’s what we want, right?

 

 

 

 


—

Betsy Marks Delaney

http://www.hawkeswood.com/

 

 

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 2996 From: ECM Date: 3/22/2016
Subject: Re: Size of main event room

 

YES!  What Kevin said!
And 9,600 is not that far off.

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 17:24:40 -0700
Subject: Re: [runacc] Size of main event room

 

My 3d models are still available in the Google Sketchup 3d world!

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/collection.html?id=50f5306ccaab25a2fbf563775e4f7513

The Doubletree had two ballrooms with the same dimensions (but the lower floor had columns), so I modeled both for different uses.

Overall dimensions were approximately 71×142=10000 sq.ft. across four equal bays; we split one off for the green room and did a wide house design for the main stage, and used that all weekend. We used part of the lower ballroom for the fashion show, and part for the dealers room. All the models are in the collection.

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model.html?id=3eae15a409ccc3f139ab9a829112caca

Kevin

Kevin

 

 

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 3:31 PM, ‘Nora & Bruce Mai’ casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Ask Kevin how big their main room was – I’d guess his numbers would align with yours best.

Nora

From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:52 PM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [runacc] Size of main event room

If it helps, ours for this year is 9600, which is more than we anticipate actually needing.

On March 22, 2016, at 9:31 AM, “Betsy Marks Delaney aramintamd@gmail.com [runacc]” <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Not necessarily. Remember that a portion of your audience is actually likely to be on stage or backstage, so extra large space may not be as necessary as you think. Even with the larger cons, you want enough space for the stage and seating for those who aren’t competing, plus those who finished the competition but want to watch after they’re done with fan photo.

CCXV ran into trouble when we had over 100 bodies in competition at the SF masquerade, because the green room wasn’t large enough to handle everyone comfortably. I still regret making that error in judgment when estimating the spaces to use for supporting the masquerade.

How large is your stage expected to be? How much space will you need for lights? Tech? Judges?

How big have the last five CCs been at the SF masquerade and how many of those were onstage first?

Betsy

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:10 AM, beckieboo817@yahoo.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi, everyone,

This is for previous runners of Costume Cons….

What was the size of your main event room?  7,000?  8,000? 9,000?

I finally submitted my RFP to the local visitors and convention bureau and have this room being 10,000 square feet.  Of course, some of my favorite choices are coming back saying they can’t host because they don’t meet the requirements….I’m thinking I’m needing to drop this down a bit. One place with 9,600 sq ft could seat 1,000 theater style and that’s what we want, right?

—

Betsy Marks Delaney

http://www.hawkeswood.com/

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

————————————
Posted by: “Nora & Bruce Mai” <casamai@sbcglobal.net>
————————————

View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
————————————

Yahoo Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/runacc/

<*> Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/runacc/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
runacc-digest@yahoogroups.com
runacc-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
runacc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo Groups is subject to:
https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/

 

 

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 2997 From: spiritof_76 Date: 3/22/2016
Subject: Re: Size of main event room

CC31 had 5184 for main events and 2808 for Green Room. IIRC, main
events was set for an audience of 300.

Michael

On 2016-03-22 07:10, beckieboo817@yahoo.com [runacc] wrote:
> Hi, everyone,
>
> This is for previous runners of Costume Cons….
>
> What was the size of your main event room? 7,000? 8,000? 9,000?
>
> I finally submitted my RFP to the local visitors and convention bureau
> and have this room being 10,000 square feet. Of course, some of my
> favorite choices are coming back saying they can’t host because they
> don’t meet the requirements….I’m thinking I’m needing to drop this
> down a bit. One place with 9,600 sq ft could seat 1,000 theater style
> and that’s what we want, right?
>
>
>
> ————————-
> Posted by: beckieboo817@yahoo.com
> ————————-
>

 
Group: runacc Message: 2998 From: Sharon Sbarsky Date: 3/23/2016
Subject: Re: Size of main event room
Thanks Kevin!

What were your attendance and room nights?

Sharon

 

 

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Kevin Roche kevin@twistedimage.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

My 3d models are still available in the Google Sketchup 3d world!

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/collection.html?id=50f5306ccaab25a2fbf563775e4f7513

The Doubletree had two ballrooms with the same dimensions (but the lower floor had columns), so I modeled both for different uses.

Overall dimensions were approximately 71×142=10000 sq.ft. across four equal bays; we split one off for the green room and did a wide house design for the main stage, and used that all weekend. We used part of the lower ballroom for the fashion show, and part for the dealers room. All the models are in the collection.

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model.html?id=3eae15a409ccc3f139ab9a829112caca

Kevin

Kevin

 

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 3:31 PM, ‘Nora & Bruce Mai’ casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Ask Kevin how big their main room was – I’d guess his numbers would align with yours best.

Nora

From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:52 PM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [runacc] Size of main event room

If it helps, ours for this year is 9600, which is more than we anticipate actually needing.

On March 22, 2016, at 9:31 AM, “Betsy Marks Delaney aramintamd@gmail.com [runacc]” <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Not necessarily. Remember that a portion of your audience is actually likely to be on stage or backstage, so extra large space may not be as necessary as you think. Even with the larger cons, you want enough space for the stage and seating for those who aren’t competing, plus those who finished the competition but want to watch after they’re done with fan photo.

CCXV ran into trouble when we had over 100 bodies in competition at the SF masquerade, because the green room wasn’t large enough to handle everyone comfortably. I still regret making that error in judgment when estimating the spaces to use for supporting the masquerade.

How large is your stage expected to be? How much space will you need for lights? Tech? Judges?

How big have the last five CCs been at the SF masquerade and how many of those were onstage first?

Betsy

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:10 AM, beckieboo817@yahoo.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi, everyone,

This is for previous runners of Costume Cons….

What was the size of your main event room?  7,000?  8,000? 9,000?

I finally submitted my RFP to the local visitors and convention bureau and have this room being 10,000 square feet.  Of course, some of my favorite choices are coming back saying they can’t host because they don’t meet the requirements….I’m thinking I’m needing to drop this down a bit. One place with 9,600 sq ft could seat 1,000 theater style and that’s what we want, right?

—

Betsy Marks Delaney

http://www.hawkeswood.com/

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


————————————
Posted by: “Nora & Bruce Mai” <casamai@sbcglobal.net>

————————————

View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
————————————

Yahoo Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/runacc/

<*> Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/runacc/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
runacc-digest@yahoogroups.com
runacc-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
runacc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo Groups is subject to:
https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/

 

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 2999 From: marg1066 Date: 3/23/2016
Subject: Re: Size of main event room
At CC30, our main ballroom was 9384 sf. We used 3300 of it for the main green room, sectioned off with partitions, so leaving room for tech and stage, we had room left for probably 300 or so chairs.

 
Group: runacc Message: 3000 From: Sharon Sbarsky Date: 3/23/2016
Subject: Re: Attendance and room counts
I’d also be interested in attendance numbers. http://www.costume-con.org/gallery2/main.php has information for dates, locations, etc. but not attendance.

Can those numbers be posted here, or sent to me? Mostly interested for budgeting purposes, including room nights and function space sizes needed/used, F&B spent, etc.

Any budgets (especially with final numbers)  that can be shared would be useful as well.

Sharon

 

 

On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 5:43 PM, ‘Nora & Bruce Mai’ casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I could probably dig up figures for CC25, but they’re probably a little too out of date.  However, I can tell you that the region where you’re holding your Cc and whether there has been one there in the past will have a bearing on said numbers.

 

Bruce

 

From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 9:03 PM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [runacc] Attendance and room counts

 

 

Hi everyone,

 

This is a question for the last 5 – 6 years of costume cons. I’m needing to give my supporting 501C3  reassurances of how viable a costume con is. So, would the people who have the info let me know what their attendance numbers were for their conventions and rooms sold and if possible what their room nights were for each night the week of the con?  I’m trying to prepare a report to give them.

 

I know the numbers for CC30. I’ve had some feed back from Kevin on hotel contracts and I think numbers. I know Dawn has told me some of what she has. But I’d still like a more complete picture.

 

So, what were the attendance numbers?

What were the total rooms sold? Can you break it down per night?

Did you break even or made a profit?  Or did you lose money?

 

I would appreciate any and all help.

 

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 3001 From: Betsy Marks Delaney Date: 3/23/2016
Subject: Re: Attendance and room counts

It’s an interesting set of statistics, but would be better maintained in a spreadsheet. Do we have data for the last 10? I wouldn’t go further back than that.

-Betsy

 

 

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Sharon Sbarsky sbarsky@gmail.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I’d also be interested in attendance numbers. http://www.costume-con.org/gallery2/main.php has information for dates, locations, etc. but not attendance.

Can those numbers be posted here, or sent to me? Mostly interested for budgeting purposes, including room nights and function space sizes needed/used, F&B spent, etc.

Any budgets (especially with final numbers)  that can be shared would be useful as well.

Sharon

 

On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 5:43 PM, ‘Nora & Bruce Mai’ casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I could probably dig up figures for CC25, but they’re probably a little too out of date.  However, I can tell you that the region where you’re holding your Cc and whether there has been one there in the past will have a bearing on said numbers.

 

Bruce

 

From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 9:03 PM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [runacc] Attendance and room counts

 

 

Hi everyone,

 

This is a question for the last 5 – 6 years of costume cons. I’m needing to give my supporting 501C3  reassurances of how viable a costume con is. So, would the people who have the info let me know what their attendance numbers were for their conventions and rooms sold and if possible what their room nights were for each night the week of the con?  I’m trying to prepare a report to give them.

 

I know the numbers for CC30. I’ve had some feed back from Kevin on hotel contracts and I think numbers. I know Dawn has told me some of what she has. But I’d still like a more complete picture.

 

So, what were the attendance numbers?

What were the total rooms sold? Can you break it down per night?

Did you break even or made a profit?  Or did you lose money?

 

I would appreciate any and all help.

 

 

 

 


—

Betsy Marks Delaney

http://www.hawkeswood.com/

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 3002 From: Sharon Sbarsky Date: 3/23/2016
Subject: Re: Attendance and room counts
I started my post giving the long list of Worldcons and Smofcons as examples. Those are kept is pseudo spreadsheets as html table pages. I’ll be willing to setup a Google doc that can be shared (or embeded in the costume-con.org site.

Yes, the last 10 years are most relevant to budgeting and planning, but the ~25 years before is also useful for historical reasons. 😀

Can someone post the last 10 here? Or as many of them that are known? I didn’t search the entire archive of this group.

Sharon

 

 

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Betsy Marks Delaney aramintamd@gmail.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

It’s an interesting set of statistics, but would be better maintained in a spreadsheet. Do we have data for the last 10? I wouldn’t go further back than that.

-Betsy

 

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Sharon Sbarsky sbarsky@gmail.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I’d also be interested in attendance numbers. http://www.costume-con.org/gallery2/main.php has information for dates, locations, etc. but not attendance.

Can those numbers be posted here, or sent to me? Mostly interested for budgeting purposes, including room nights and function space sizes needed/used, F&B spent, etc.

Any budgets (especially with final numbers)  that can be shared would be useful as well.

Sharon

 

On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 5:43 PM, ‘Nora & Bruce Mai’ casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I could probably dig up figures for CC25, but they’re probably a little too out of date.  However, I can tell you that the region where you’re holding your Cc and whether there has been one there in the past will have a bearing on said numbers.

 

Bruce

 

From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 9:03 PM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [runacc] Attendance and room counts

 

 

Hi everyone,

 

This is a question for the last 5 – 6 years of costume cons. I’m needing to give my supporting 501C3  reassurances of how viable a costume con is. So, would the people who have the info let me know what their attendance numbers were for their conventions and rooms sold and if possible what their room nights were for each night the week of the con?  I’m trying to prepare a report to give them.

 

I know the numbers for CC30. I’ve had some feed back from Kevin on hotel contracts and I think numbers. I know Dawn has told me some of what she has. But I’d still like a more complete picture.

 

So, what were the attendance numbers?

What were the total rooms sold? Can you break it down per night?

Did you break even or made a profit?  Or did you lose money?

 

I would appreciate any and all help.

 

 

 

 


—

Betsy Marks Delaney

http://www.hawkeswood.com/

 

 
Group: runacc Message: 3003 From: Betsy Marks Delaney Date: 3/23/2016
Subject: Re: Attendance and room counts

The numbers for CCXV are on costume-con.org under ConStitution (as a sample, but it’s the final numbers we had).

You’re welcome to crib from that if you want. 8)
Betsy

 

 

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Sharon Sbarsky sbarsky@gmail.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I started my post giving the long list of Worldcons and Smofcons as examples. Those are kept is pseudo spreadsheets as html table pages. I’ll be willing to setup a Google doc that can be shared (or embeded in the costume-con.org site.

Yes, the last 10 years are most relevant to budgeting and planning, but the ~25 years before is also useful for historical reasons. 😀

Can someone post the last 10 here? Or as many of them that are known? I didn’t search the entire archive of this group.

Sharon

 

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Betsy Marks Delaney aramintamd@gmail.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

It’s an interesting set of statistics, but would be better maintained in a spreadsheet. Do we have data for the last 10? I wouldn’t go further back than that.

-Betsy

 

 

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Sharon Sbarsky sbarsky@gmail.com [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I’d also be interested in attendance numbers. http://www.costume-con.org/gallery2/main.php has information for dates, locations, etc. but not attendance.

Can those numbers be posted here, or sent to me? Mostly interested for budgeting purposes, including room nights and function space sizes needed/used, F&B spent, etc.

Any budgets (especially with final numbers)  that can be shared would be useful as well.

Sharon

 

On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 5:43 PM, ‘Nora & Bruce Mai’ casamai@sbcglobal.net [runacc] <runacc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I could probably dig up figures for CC25, but they’re probably a little too out of date.  However, I can tell you that the region where you’re holding your Cc and whether there has been one there in the past will have a bearing on said numbers.

 

Bruce

 

From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 9:03 PM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [runacc] Attendance and room counts

 

 

Hi everyone,

 

This is a question for the last 5 – 6 years of costume cons. I’m needing to give my supporting 501C3  reassurances of how viable a costume con is. So, would the people who have the info let me know what their attendance numbers were for their conventions and rooms sold and if possible what their room nights were for each night the week of the con?  I’m trying to prepare a report to give them.

 

I know the numbers for CC30. I’ve had some feed back from Kevin on hotel contracts and I think numbers. I know Dawn has told me some of what she has. But I’d still like a more complete picture.

 

So, what were the attendance numbers?

What were the total rooms sold? Can you break it down per night?

Did you break even or made a profit?  Or did you lose money?

 

I would appreciate any and all help.

 

 

 

 


—

Betsy Marks Delaney

http://www.hawkeswood.com/

 

 

 

 

 


—

Betsy Marks Delaney

http://www.hawkeswood.com/