Aurora –
The only place that I know of that requires a legal name is on the
release portion of the entry form, and there is no reason for that to
ever be published or attached to a picture. Like Ricky, I only read
what is given to me to read on an entry form. Please reassure your
brother about this.
Marty

On 6/29/2011 12:19 AM, Aurora Celeste wrote:
>
> I’m trying to reassure my brother, so excuse the obvious. Next year I’m
> bringing my niece to costume con. She’s a costume diva and loves it when
> she gets new outfits, so we designed an entry for her. My mom will also be
> attending to help herd her. My brother is worried, though, about her
> online
> presence. He doesn’t really want her name attached to her face widely
> online before she’s graduated kindergarten (understandable, imo). I’ve
> told
> him to google all my pictures and see how they’re all labeled with “Aurora
> Celeste” and not my real name, but he’s worried that for some reason her
> legal name will need to be used because he signed a minor release form in
> that name. I told him the announcer’s form is a totally separate form and
> he shouldn’t be worried. Anyway, long story short, is there any
> possibility
> that I’m wrong and a reason her legal name would need to be used either by
> the announcer, on an entrant list, or in a gallery after the show?
> Also, is
> there any way to find out if there will be additional forms at the con
> that
> would need to be signed ahead of time like there was with Penny this year?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Aurora
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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I always went by what was said onstage and connected last names in keyword
files. The keyword doesn’t show up, but a search will bring the person up.
Folks like Karen, with three different last names, or like Qeldas Pickett (I
think that’s her current name) are unfindable otherwise, if you want to see
all the photos. Heck, I’ve competed under Betsy Marks, Betsy Delaney, and
Betsy Marks Delaney. If we didn’t keyword these together, you’d only see a
third of what I’ve done at any given search (though the name Betsy is still
fairly rare in CC circles).

Aurora, I don’t think I posted your real name anywhere because you’ve never
used it anywhere, and I rather doubt either Karen or Nora have done so. You
could test and see what you get by Googling your name. Any search for Aurora
should bring up all your stuff – hence no cross-referencing needed. Not sure
if the same applies to your real name.

There wouldn’t be a Dragon and Dragonet or Animal X otherwise (though in her
faerie form she now goes by A~nima, which, AFAI, has never seen competition
stage). I know Animal’s real name and it may appear in early costume form if
she competed that way. In fact, I think she shows up under her real name in
the recent Resnick(?) gallery in the ICG Archives.

Never use her real name spoken onstage, and it should never show up.

Make sense?

-b

On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Bruce & Nora Mai <casamai@sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> **
>
>
> As far as the ICGallery is concerned:
> We frequently label photos with aliases (con names) on the Gallery. If
> known to us, we like to put the person’s real name in the keywords
> (non-visible) so folks who know them by that name can find them.
>
> Or vice-versa for some folks. We also put alternate names (maiden name,
> previous married names, etc.) for some folks as well.
>
> If someone were to specifically request to be “labelled” a certain way, we
> can absolutely accomodate that.
>
> Obviously I can’t speak for other websites.
>
> Nora
>
> — On Tue, 6/28/11, Aurora Celeste <auroraceleste@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Aurora Celeste <auroraceleste@gmail.com>
> Subject: [runacc] Names on Photographs, etc
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 11:19 PM
>
>
> I’m trying to reassure my brother, so excuse the obvious. Next year I’m
> bringing my niece to costume con. She’s a costume diva and loves it when
> she gets new outfits, so we designed an entry for her. My mom will also be
> attending to help herd her. My brother is worried, though, about her
> online
> presence. He doesn’t really want her name attached to her face widely
> online before she’s graduated kindergarten (understandable, imo). I’ve
> told
> him to google all my pictures and see how they’re all labeled with “Aurora
> Celeste” and not my real name, but he’s worried that for some reason her
> legal name will need to be used because he signed a minor release form in
> that name. I told him the announcer’s form is a totally separate form and
> he shouldn’t be worried. Anyway, long story short, is there any
> possibility
> that I’m wrong and a reason her legal name would need to be used either by
> the announcer, on an entrant list, or in a gallery after the show? Also,
> is
> there any way to find out if there will be additional forms at the con that
> would need to be signed ahead of time like there was with Penny this year?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Aurora
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

—
—
—
Betsy Marks Delaney

http://www.hawkeswood.com/

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On 6/28/2011 9:19 PM, Aurora Celeste wrote:

> he’s worried that for some reason her
> legal name will need to be used because he signed a minor release form in
> that name.

Releases are held on file by the convention for liability purposes and
the photographer(s) for publication rights purposes. If nobody sues,
they never leave the file folders.

Photographers generally either don’t publish any notes with photos, it’s
more work than necessary. Convention, Costume-con and ICG archives
generally use the MC script or listen to a video to get published notes.

andy

We had a network storage failure; we’ve recovered the unit and I was
able to get to my contracts. I have not found the final move-in version;
I’m working off the version as signed.

CC26 took possession of all the rooms on Thursday at 8am (Convention
opened Friday). We had some dealers take advantage of this and move in
Thursday. We could also start our tech build on Thursday that way as
well. We started the installation of Sally’s big costume exhibit on
Thursday and completed it Friday morning, and we had most of the
signage, (banners) and the StarGate prop set up on Thursday as well.

We gave up a couple of the smaller function rooms on Sunday (11:59pm),
the ballrooms on Monday at 6pm and the final function rooms on Monday at
11:59pm, according to what I’ve found so far.

The con suite opened Thursday evening, and is where we held the dead dog
on Monday (which must mean we got to keep that one room longer).

There was no programming during the “big tent” events (Masquerades or
Future Fashion show); I asked Karen and she very specifically stated
that that was her preference.

We originally had plans for organizing possible tours both before and
after the convention. I believe that the way folk’s agendas fell out
that only the pre-convention tours actually gelled.

Hope that is of some help!
Kevin

We use running orders from the MDs as often as we can get them. Better chance of spelling something correctly then.

Nora

— On Wed, 6/29/11, Andrew Trembley <attrembl@bovil.com> wrote:

From: Andrew Trembley <attrembl@bovil.com>
Subject: Re: [runacc] Names on Photographs, etc
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 29, 2011, 11:40 PM

On 6/28/2011 9:19 PM, Aurora Celeste wrote:
> he’s worried that for some reason her
> legal name will need to be used because he signed a minor release form in
> that name.

Releases are held on file by the convention for liability purposes and
the photographer(s) for publication rights purposes. If nobody sues,
they never leave the file folders.

Photographers generally either don’t publish any notes with photos, it’s
more work than necessary. Convention, Costume-con and ICG archives
generally use the MC script or listen to a video to get published notes.

andy

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View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/Yahoo! Groups Links

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Bon matin, mes amis! Aujourd’hui est Juillet 1 et la date limite pour la Folio est Septembre 1, 2011.
Moins des deux mois pour finir le dessin.

What? You don’t speak French? Better learn because at this rate the Folio might be published that way. I have 63 entries so far & all but 2 are from Quebec.
Come on folks – rev up those pencils! What I’ve got is great but I want more!

Nora Mai
CC30 FFF Director

LOL! French Fashion Folio is okay by me. XD
~Dawn

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: von_drago@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 11:40:44 +0000
Subject: [runacc] CC30 Avenir Mode Folio

Bon matin, mes amis! Aujourd’hui est Juillet 1 et la date limite pour la Folio est Septembre 1, 2011.

Moins des deux mois pour finir le dessin.

What? You don’t speak French? Better learn because at this rate the Folio might be published that way. I have 63 entries so far & all but 2 are from Quebec.

Come on folks � rev up those pencils! What I’ve got is great but I want more!

Nora Mai

CC30 FFF Director

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At 10:40 AM 6/30/2011, you wrote:

>
>
>We use running orders from the MDs as often as we can get them.
>Better chance of spelling something correctly then.
>
>Nora

Getting a running order is also preferable. We always honor
preferences for names. So long as she uses the alias on everything
except the release signature, that’s what we’ll see on lists or hear
on video and that’s what will appear online.

Pierre

>— On Wed, 6/29/11, Andrew Trembley
><<mailto:attrembl%40bovil.com>attrembl@bovil.com> wrote:
>
>From: Andrew Trembley <<mailto:attrembl%40bovil.com>attrembl@bovil.com>
>Subject: Re: [runacc] Names on Photographs, etc
>To: <mailto:runacc%40yahoogroups.com>runacc@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Wednesday, June 29, 2011, 11:40 PM
>
>On 6/28/2011 9:19 PM, Aurora Celeste wrote:
> > he’s worried that for some reason her
> > legal name will need to be used because he signed a minor release form in
> > that name.
>
>Releases are held on file by the convention for liability purposes and
>the photographer(s) for publication rights purposes. If nobody sues,
>they never leave the file folders.
>
>Photographers generally either don’t publish any notes with photos, it’s
>more work than necessary. Convention, Costume-con and ICG archives
>generally use the MC script or listen to a video to get published notes.
>
>andy
>
>————————————
>
>View the Document:
><http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/Yahoo>http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/Yahoo!
>Groups Links

International Costumers’ Guild Archivist

http://www.costume.org/gallery2/main.php

“Those Who Fail to Learn History
Are Doomed to Repeat It;
Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly –
Why They Are Simply Doomed.”

Achemdro’hm
“The Illusion of Historical Fact”
— C. Y. 4971

Andromeda

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Uhhh, it’s not out there at the moment. Has the server gone down or something?

Okay, enough of that.

It’s been awhile, but I figured I’d better get this out there soon. I created the following FAQ on the Cosplay.com forum. The idea was not only to answer any questions they had over there, but also to catch any other questions that I hadn’t thought of when I started. My proposal is to post this on the CC.com site (which, as I’ve already posted seems to be missing at the moment).

Everything You Wanted to Know About Costume-Con but Didn’t Know Who to Ask

How many people attend Costume-Con?
It varies from year to year, depending on where it’s held, but the average membership is between 225 – 300. You can see the approximate attendances here http://www.costume-con.org/gallery2/main.php and click on one of the pictures for that year.

Is this a media convention?
No. But you will see various media costumes.

What kinds of costuming will I see at Costume-Con?

Everything from science fiction to historical to wearable art and everything in between. The costumes will be of original design, as well as recreations from film, TV, comics, books, etc. If you click that link above, you’ll get an idea of the range, although there are no shots of costumes worn in the halls.

Will I look out of place if I’m not wearing a costume all the time?

Not at all! People are not always in costume, because they like dressing comfortably, too. Everyone is welcome, whether they make costumes or not. We also have people who almost never wear costumes, but enjoy our art form – photographers, backstage crew and videographers, just to name a few.

I don’t make costumes. Are purchased ones okay?

Certainly. People are always encouraged to wear costumes in the halls, but only a certain percentage of an outfit – usually an accessory (shoes, hat, purse, etc.) is allowed in the competitions.

Everyone looks like they’re so much better than me! Why should I bother?

Practically no one starts out as a “great” costumer – they have had to work at their craft for many years. And they are always interested in learning new techniques, even from a beginner.

Is Costume-Con run by the International Costumers Guild?

No, although most times, members of an ICG chapter make up a Costume-Con committee. Actually, any costume-minded organization may bid to host a Costume-Con. The details are here: http://www.costume-con.org/constitution.shtml

What kinds of subjects are taught in the panels?

Every conference is different, but they might be about dyeing techniques, wing construction, hat making, corset construction, mask making, prop making, beadwork, or even a study of different glues, just to name a few. It all depends on who attends a particular CC and what knowledge they have that they are willing to share.

Are people paid to speak or given a free membership?

No. Everyone volunteers their time. One of the major purposes of this conference is to share knowledge.

Is there a list or schedule of panels I can look at, to see if I’d be interested?

As the current conference date approaches, check their site for a schedule. Also, some past CCs still have their sites up and have published their pocket programs.

Why is Costume-Con so expensive to attend?

Actually, the starting pre-registered membership rates for Costume-Cons are competitive with most large science-fiction and anime conventions these days, and continue to be, until you walk in the door. The advantage with a Costume-Con is its focus – it’s all about costuming, all the time.

Are there any special guest celebrities?

Not as such, although there are occasionally costume industry or ethnic costume speakers.

What is the Friday Night Social and what happens at it?

It’s basically a themed party. It’s the first chance for the conference membership to mix casually, catch up with friends they see only once a year, and meet new people. There may be a cash bar available, and there are usually light snacks. While dressing for the theme is encouraged, any kind of costume is welcome. Activities In the past have included dances, drawings for prizes, etc.

What is the “Con Suite”?

Hosted by the conference committee, it’s in a hotel suite where members can sit and chat, maybe do a little sewing and have a snack. Hours of operation vary, and should be published in the conference program book, but it is generally open most of the weekend, except during the shows. After the masquerades, there are parties sponsored by future Costume-Con committees. At other times of the day, there may be breakfasts, brunches or other foods sponsored by other groups like Guild chapters or regional conventions that have their own masquerades. (By the way, it is not advised to rely on the Suite for all your food, but if you can’t leave the hotel because you’re getting ready for a competition or a panel, it’s a good place to seek something to tide you over.)

I’m shy, and I’m afraid no one will talk to me. What should I do?

Believe it or not, a sizeable number of costumers are just as shy as you are. Sadly, some people interpret that as coming across as “snobbish”. The best way to strike up a conversation with a costumer is ask to take their picture, or ask them how they made some part of their outfit. They’ll be more than happy to tell you, and flattered that you noticed them. Many long friendships have started that way.

What kinds of costumes are typically entered in the Fantasy & Science Fiction Masquerade?

This is your opportunity to let your creativity run wild! There have been monsters, mascots, vampires, demons, fairies, superheroes, cartoon characters and historical figures that have crossed the stage. The show is limited only by what your imagination can come up with. To see the past masquerade entries, go here: http://www.costume-con.org/gallery2/main.php. The International Costumers Gallery – https://costume.pixi.me/main.php?g2_itemId=116 – also has records of past CCs.

Can I wear my competition costume in the halls before I go on stage?
Wearing a competition costume before it is seen on stage is generally discouraged for a couple of reasons. First, you deprive the audience the delight of a collective “ooo!” and “ahh!” over your fabulous work when you take your turn. Second, you could prejudice the masquerade judges ahead of time if they happen to see you in the halls or checking out the wares in the Dealers Room earlier in the day.

I’ve heard that the masquerades have “Tech Rehearsals”. What are those?

This is a scheduled time during the day before the masquerade for meeting with the technical crew who run the masquerade lights and sound. You will find the sign up sheet at the Masquerade Director’s registration table. Generally speaking, you get about 5 – 8 minutes to show the crew how you will enter, explain any light or music crews you may have, and they make notes about the colors of your costume so that it is lit in the best way possible. Your actual stage movement should already have been planned out. You will probably get one or two opportunities to run through your presentation, and then you will be done.

What is the Skill Division system?

The easiest way to explain is it’s a system for protecting those who have little to no experience in costume presentation and workmanship from having to compete with those who have costumed for many years. For more explanation, have a look at the ICG Guidelines for Ensuring Fairness in Competitions: http://www.costume.org/documents/fai…6-05-2006.html

How do I know at what level I should enter at?

If the aforementioned document still leaves you unsure, contact the Masquerade Director, and they will be more than happy to help you.

I’ve heard something referred to as the “Green Room”. What’s that for?

Just like a theatrical Green Room, it is a staging area where the competing costumers meet to put on their outfits in preparation for their presentations. The Green Room is traditionally open 2 hours or more before the beginning of the masquerade. You are checked in by the Green Room Manager, who will assign you to a “den” of costumers where you can rest in chairs and put a small prop on a table.

Last minute preparations are normal, but everyone is encourage to be considerate of their fellow costumers by not actually constructing pieces that take up large amounts of room. Usually, light snacks are available for nervous nibblers, is as water. A good Green Room will also provide hand fans to keep people cool.

Once you have most, if not all of your costume put on, you will have an informal photo taken of you for the presentations judges who will be seated in front of the stage. This will serve as a mnemonic for them during deliberations. Typically, Workmanship judging takes place in some corner of the Green Room.

Once your costume is completely put on and ready to show, you will have an official Masquerade Photo taken. It is not only a record of your creation, but you will have the opportunity to purchase copies of the photo and any others of your fellow costumers.

I’ve seen mention of something called a “Den Mom”. What’s that?

Den moms and den dads are Green Room volunteers who are there to assist the competitors with their last minute preparations like putting on a head piece, zipping up dresses, etc. Often, these volunteers are costumers themselves, or experienced back stage helpers. Usually, one den mom or dad is assigned to 4 – 5 costumers or entries. A good den mom or dad will monitor their charges, checking to make sure they stay comfortable by bringing them water, or a snack or keep them cool with a hand fan. They may also lead the costumer to their backstage position before going before the audience. Without den moms and dads, there would be a lot of uncomfortable competitors!

Workmanship judging sounds intimidating. How does that work, and why should I bother?

Everyone is encouraged to submit to Workmanship judging. The judges are there to look for something which they believe should receive recognition of excellence – not to find what you did wrong. You can submit your whole costume, or just one specific item that you are proud of. If you had to buy a particular accessory that you couldn’t make yourself, you should make that known to the judge(s).

The judging usually takes place in the Green Room before the masquerade, but sometimes continues while the show is in progress. Contestants are allowed a few minutes to explain how they made their costumes, and the judges may ask specific questions about a particular piece. As a courtesy to their fellow costumers, entrants should be considerate of the judges’ time constraints so that everyone has a chance to submit their works.

Do I need to have documentation for my costume? What format should it be in?

If you are recreating a costume from a media source, you are strongly encouraged to bring some sort of documentation. Not only does it prove your accuracy, but if the judge is not familiar with the source, it may be the only way to judge its veracity.

Documentation can be as simple as a photo or photos that show the costume from various angles, or if it is an interpretation from a book, then a photocopy of that source. It is also strongly encouraged to present the documentation in printed form, so that a judge can refer to it later, if needed. Keep in mind, the judges will most likely have only a few minutes to read through your documentation while making their decisions. You can get more specifics from the individual Masquerade Director as to what is acceptable.

Are there any cash prizes?

Nope. Your only rewards are possibly a rosette ribbon and the applause and admiration of your peers.

I’ve heard some guild chapters give out their own awards. What’s that about?

Often times, before the official masquerade awards are announced, some ICG Guild chapters will present their own award to an entry. These include, but are not limited to:

The “Spazzy”, given by the New York/New Jersey Costumers Guild for the best presentation of sick and twisted humor.

The “Slattern”, presented by the St. Louis Costumers Guild, for the person or persons they feel had the most fun on stage.

The “Cement Overshoes”, presented by the Chicagoland Costumers Guild, to the person they would like most to take a long walk off a short pier, so that they can take the costumer’s stuff.

Basically, it’s a way to say, “Hey, we like what you did!”

What is the Future Fashion Folio?

It’s a fashion design competition which is judged and printed (hopefully) months before Costume-Con. Once the Folio is published, attendees of the convention can reserve one of the designs, make it and wear it in the Future Fashion Show.

How do you submit designs?

Think up a fashion design that might be worn in the future. It could be a uniform, a bridal dress, work clothes, sportswear, business wear, etc. Put it on paper and send it either by mail or email. For more tips and specifics, visit the Alley Cat Scratch website and the current CC website.

Do I have to be a member of the convention to participate in the Future Fashion Folio?

No. Anyone can enter. Those designers who are selected for the publication will receive an electronic copy of the Folio.

How are the designs judged?
It depends on the convention. Some CCs use a panel of judges, while others have used a group panel of Guild chapter members.

How can I enter when I can’t/don’t draw?

No problem! Go here: for some croquis (figure blank) that you can trace over with your fashion designs.

Will it be published online?

No.

Can I make up someone’s design, even though I can’t go to CC this year?
Ethically, you should seek permission from the designer.

Can I make up more than one design?

Yes, but ordinarily, you are only allowed to appear on stage in one design. You may, however, have someone model one of your others for you.

Good start!

Byron

On Jul 28, 2011, at 9:53 PM, Bruce wrote:

> Okay, enough of that.
>
> It’s been awhile, but I figured I’d better get this out there soon. I created the following FAQ on the Cosplay.com forum. The idea was not only to answer any questions they had over there, but also to catch any other questions that I hadn’t thought of when I started. My proposal is to post this on the CC.com site (which, as I’ve already posted seems to be missing at the moment).
>
> Everything You Wanted to Know About Costume-Con but Didn’t Know Who to Ask
>
> How many people attend Costume-Con?
> It varies from year to year, depending on where it’s held, but the average membership is between 225 � 300. You can see the approximate attendances here http://www.costume-con.org/gallery2/main.php and click on one of the pictures for that year.
>
> Is this a media convention?
> No. But you will see various media costumes.
>
> What kinds of costuming will I see at Costume-Con?
>
> Everything from science fiction to historical to wearable art and everything in between. The costumes will be of original design, as well as recreations from film, TV, comics, books, etc. If you click that link above, you’ll get an idea of the range, although there are no shots of costumes worn in the halls.
>
> Will I look out of place if I’m not wearing a costume all the time?
>
> Not at all! People are not always in costume, because they like dressing comfortably, too. Everyone is welcome, whether they make costumes or not. We also have people who almost never wear costumes, but enjoy our art form � photographers, backstage crew and videographers, just to name a few.
>
>

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Under subjects, you might want to say something like “SF, fantasy, media, historical, and other types of costume.”

Byron

On Jul 28, 2011, at 9:56 PM, Bruce wrote:

> Is Costume-Con run by the International Costumers Guild?
>
> No, although most times, members of an ICG chapter make up a Costume-Con committee. Actually, any costume-minded organization may bid to host a Costume-Con. The details are here: http://www.costume-con.org/constitution.shtml
>
> What kinds of subjects are taught in the panels?
>
> Every conference is different, but they might be about dyeing techniques, wing construction, hat making, corset construction, mask making, prop making, beadwork, or even a study of different glues, just to name a few. It all depends on who attends a particular CC and what knowledge they have that they are willing to share.
>
> Are people paid to speak or given a free membership?
>
> No. Everyone volunteers their time. One of the major purposes of this conference is to share knowledge.
>
>

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What happens in the Future Fashion Show?

The format varies, but basically, it’s an informal fashion show. A picture of the design is projected on a screen while you walk on stage and a brief description is read from the Folio. It’s a much more relaxed event, with less emphasis on competition.

Are there awards?

Traditionally, there are two awards: one for the Best Recreation Made by the Designer, and Best Recreation by a Non-Designer.

What is the Single Pattern competition?

One or more (mostly) readily acquirable commercial patterns are selected to be made up. The competition is in the decoration, alteration and fabric selection for the pattern. Previous patterns used have been the Tibetan Panel Coat, vests, Drovers Coats, tuxedos and others.

Are there any other competitions?

Ordinarily, there is the Doll Costume contest. There have also been other competitions making and decorating hats, bras, and even – codpieces! It differs from one conference to the next.

What is the Historical Masquerade?

The Historical Masquerade showcases the history of clothing, which includes, but is not limited to, any one culture, period, or type of dress. It highlights creativity, scholarship, stage presentation, and workmanship skills in the context of historical clothing. There is some variance of what qualifies as “Historical Clothing”, but generally speaking, it is understood as something that would have been in fashion before the birth year of the entrant.

Each Costume-Con Historical Masquerade may be run slightly differently, but the usual entry categories are:
Theatrical Costume, Historical Dress and Historical Interpretation. Ethnic dress is another category that is not as restrictive, and can be either historical or modern day. There might be others.

Like the Science Fiction masquerade, entries are judged for Presentation and Workmanship. Since the Historical Masquerade traditionally takes place on Sunday evening, workmanship judging usually takes place during the day. Each convention is different in how it is handled – sometimes, the entrant comes in costume to a judging room and shows what they have done. At other conventions, the judges can come to the entrants hotel room, which many find more convenient and less stressful.

The third category for judging is Documentation. The format of the documentation doesn’t have to be term paper-dry – it is only limited by one’s creativity. The main purpose of documentation is to demonstrate the entrant’s knowledge of the outfit they will be presenting on stage. (This is also submitted prior to Workmanship judging).

For more information on judging, documentation creation, etc., contact the standing committee Historical Masquerade Director.

Can my parents/friends/etc. come to see the shows?

Check with the conference committee – usually, there are accommodations for selling event tickets for the various masquerades.

I’ve heard there are no activities/panels scheduled opposite the shows. Why is that?
Everyone is either in one of the shows or watching them!

What kinds of things are sold in the Dealers Room?
It differs from year to year, but usually it is a mix of beading materials, costume accessories, costume-related books, hard to find patterns and jewelry.

This is supposed to be a 4 day conference. Why should I stay through Monday?

While programming is not all day, there are still things to do both at the conference and outside it. There are the panels, workshops and costume video presentations by the ICG Archives. Usually, there are opportunities for both guided and self-guided tours of the host city. Sometimes, conference members organize their own trips and activities. And at the end of the day, they all meet one more time in the Con Suite for the “Dead Dog Party”. It’s the last opportunity to relax and socialize before everyone makes their way home.

I’d like to volunteer. Who should I contact?

Check the website of the CC you want to help out with and contact the committee person in charge. They will gratefully accept any assistance in areas like Registration, stage ninjas, den moms, exhibits and other areas. Or, ask at Registration when you arrive.

Under cost, we are more expensive and should explain why. You might note that membership includes the cost of receiving the FFF, which is not found at SF or other types of cons. If there are there other things unique to a CC, they ought to be mentioned.

Byron

On Jul 28, 2011, at 9:58 PM, Bruce wrote:

> Is there a list or schedule of panels I can look at, to see if I’d be interested?
>
> As the current conference date approaches, check their site for a schedule. Also, some past CCs still have their sites up and have published their pocket programs.
>
>
> Why is Costume-Con so expensive to attend?
>
> Actually, the starting pre-registered membership rates for Costume-Cons are competitive with most large science-fiction and anime conventions these days, and continue to be, until you walk in the door. The advantage with a Costume-Con is its focus � it’s all about costuming, all the time.
>
> Are there any special guest celebrities?
>
> Not as such, although there are occasionally costume industry or ethnic costume speakers.
>
> What is the Friday Night Social and what happens at it?
>
> It’s basically a themed party. It’s the first chance for the conference membership to mix casually, catch up with friends they see only once a year, and meet new people. There may be a cash bar available, and there are usually light snacks. While dressing for the theme is encouraged, any kind of costume is welcome. Activities In the past have included dances, drawings for prizes, etc.
>
>

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Maybe you should lead off the FAQ with the “I’m shy” item.

Byron

On Jul 28, 2011, at 10:04 PM, Bruce wrote:

> What is the “Con Suite”?
>
> Hosted by the conference committee, it’s in a hotel suite where members can sit and chat, maybe do a little sewing and have a snack. Hours of operation vary, and should be published in the conference program book, but it is generally open most of the weekend, except during the shows. After the masquerades, there are parties sponsored by future Costume-Con committees. At other times of the day, there may be breakfasts, brunches or other foods sponsored by other groups like Guild chapters or regional conventions that have their own masquerades. (By the way, it is not advised to rely on the Suite for all your food, but if you can’t leave the hotel because you’re getting ready for a competition or a panel, it’s a good place to seek something to tide you over.)
>
> I’m shy, and I’m afraid no one will talk to me. What should I do?
>
> Believe it or not, a sizeable number of costumers are just as shy as you are. Sadly, some people interpret that as coming across as “snobbish”. The best way to strike up a conversation with a costumer is ask to take their picture, or ask them how they made some part of their outfit. They’ll be more than happy to tell you, and flattered that you noticed them. Many long friendships have started that way.
>
> What kinds of costumes are typically entered in the Fantasy & Science Fiction Masquerade?
>
> This is your opportunity to let your creativity run wild! There have been monsters, mascots, vampires, demons, fairies, superheroes, cartoon characters and historical figures that have crossed the stage. The show is limited only by what your imagination can come up with. To see the past masquerade entries, go here: http://www.costume-con.org/gallery2/main.php. The International Costumers Gallery – https://costume.pixi.me/main.php?g2_itemId=116 – also has records of past CCs.
>
>

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You need to split the workmanship judging item into separate responses for SF masquerades and historical masquerades. Workmanship judging normally is not optional for a historical masquerade and usually occurs before the entrants come to the green room. Documentation also is mandatory. For a historical masquerade, you might want to note the difference between historical dress (from the skin out) and historical interpretation (“medieval velcro”).

Byron

On Jul 28, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Bruce wrote:

> I’ve seen mention of something called a “Den Mom”. What’s that?
>
> Den moms and den dads are Green Room volunteers who are there to assist the competitors with their last minute preparations like putting on a head piece, zipping up dresses, etc. Often, these volunteers are costumers themselves, or experienced back stage helpers. Usually, one den mom or dad is assigned to 4 � 5 costumers or entries. A good den mom or dad will monitor their charges, checking to make sure they stay comfortable by bringing them water, or a snack or keep them cool with a hand fan. They may also lead the costumer to their backstage position before going before the audience. Without den moms and dads, there would be a lot of uncomfortable competitors!
>
> Workmanship judging sounds intimidating. How does that work, and why should I bother?
>
> Everyone is encouraged to submit to Workmanship judging. The judges are there to look for something which they believe should receive recognition of excellence � not to find what you did wrong. You can submit your whole costume, or just one specific item that you are proud of. If you had to buy a particular accessory that you couldn’t make yourself, you should make that known to the judge(s).
>
> The judging usually takes place in the Green Room before the masquerade, but sometimes continues while the show is in progress. Contestants are allowed a few minutes to explain how they made their costumes, and the judges may ask specific questions about a particular piece. As a courtesy to their fellow costumers, entrants should be considerate of the judges’ time constraints so that everyone has a chance to submit their works.
>
> Do I need to have documentation for my costume? What format should it be in?
>
> If you are recreating a costume from a media source, you are strongly encouraged to bring some sort of documentation. Not only does it prove your accuracy, but if the judge is not familiar with the source, it may be the only way to judge its veracity.
>
> Documentation can be as simple as a photo or photos that show the costume from various angles, or if it is an interpretation from a book, then a photocopy of that source. It is also strongly encouraged to present the documentation in printed form, so that a judge can refer to it later, if needed. Keep in mind, the judges will most likely have only a few minutes to read through your documentation while making their decisions. You can get more specifics from the individual Masquerade Director as to what is acceptable.
>
> Are there any cash prizes?
>
> Nope. Your only rewards are possibly a rosette ribbon and the applause and admiration of your peers.
>
>

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On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Bruce <casamai@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
> I’ve heard that the masquerades have “Tech Rehearsals”. What are those?
>
> This is a scheduled time during the day before the masquerade for meeting
> with the technical crew who run the masquerade lights and sound. You will
> find the sign up sheet at the Masquerade Director’s registration table.
> Generally speaking, you get about 5 � 8 minutes to show the crew how you
> will enter, explain any light or music crews you may have, and they make
> notes about the colors of your costume so that it is lit in the best way
> possible. Your actual stage movement should already have been planned out.
> You will probably get one or two opportunities to run through your
> presentation, and then you will be done.
>
>
> There’s a bit of a technical problem with this question (explain any light

or music crews you may have?), and I’d mention that it is encouraged to
bring your costume so they can light it to your best advantage.

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Theatrical costume was unique to CC 29. Ethnic dress is the usual alternative to either historical dress or historical interpretation.

I suggest you say that judging is based on (1) workmanship, (2) documentation, and (3) stage presentation and that awards may be given in each category, as well as for the entry as a whole.

This could be another place to mention the difference between “from the skin out” and medieval velcro.”

Byron

On Jul 28, 2011, at 10:28 PM, Bruce wrote:

> What is the Historical Masquerade?
>
> The Historical Masquerade showcases the history of clothing, which includes, but is not limited to, any one culture, period, or type of dress. It highlights creativity, scholarship, stage presentation, and workmanship skills in the context of historical clothing. There is some variance of what qualifies as “Historical Clothing”, but generally speaking, it is understood as something that would have been in fashion before the birth year of the entrant.
>
> Each Costume-Con Historical Masquerade may be run slightly differently, but the usual entry categories are:
> Theatrical Costume, Historical Dress and Historical Interpretation. Ethnic dress is another category that is not as restrictive, and can be either historical or modern day. There might be others.
>
> Like the Science Fiction masquerade, entries are judged for Presentation and Workmanship. Since the Historical Masquerade traditionally takes place on Sunday evening, workmanship judging usually takes place during the day. Each convention is different in how it is handled � sometimes, the entrant comes in costume to a judging room and shows what they have done. At other conventions, the judges can come to the entrants hotel room, which many find more convenient and less stressful.
>
> The third category for judging is Documentation. The format of the documentation doesn’t have to be term paper-dry � it is only limited by one’s creativity. The main purpose of documentation is to demonstrate the entrant’s knowledge of the outfit they will be presenting on stage. (This is also submitted prior to Workmanship judging).
>
> For more information on judging, documentation creation, etc., contact the standing committee Historical Masquerade Director.
>
>

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Costume-Con.com came right up when I looked just now. The whole internet has
been weird lately.

YMMV.

-b

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Some of these will come in handy for masquerades at other conventions!

Thanks for the list!

Henry

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What must have been temporary?

Byron

On Jul 29, 2011, at 8:18 AM, Betsy Delaney wrote:

> Costume-Con.com came right up when I looked just now. The whole internet has
> been weird lately.
>
> YMMV.
>
> -b
>
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> Betsy Marks Delaney
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> http://www.hawkeswood.com/
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Sure enough. Now, the countdown thing needs to be reset and pointed to
CC30.

Bruce

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Costume-Con.com came right up when I looked just now. The whole internet has
been weird lately.

YMMV.

-b

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Hi, Byron!

At the very top of the FAQ messages (which all, thankfully, came in one easy
to read digest), Bruce reported a web site outage. When I checked, the site
was back again. It happens from time to time. If it’s down for more than a
couple of hours, I report it to the hosting company. Otherwise, I just check
back in a couple of hours. Since I used to be on the receiving end of calls
like those, I tend to give the hosts a lot more slack than I used to.

YMMV.

Good job, by the way, Bruce!

I have some edit suggestions, but I’ve got three really big things that have
to be dealt with in the next couple of weeks. When you’ve gotten enough
feedback to adjust or add, would you resend the file, maybe in one piece?
I’d be happy to review and comment.

Thanks!

Betsy

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Way back at CC 18, I created a FAQ sheet for newbies. Of course, back then
we didn’t have all the new anime, etc. groups to welcome to our fold that we
do now, and the tech requirements have changed somewhat, but the overall
seems to hold up pretty well.

Tina

*Frequently Asked Questions: A brief primer for the new (and not-so-new)
costumer*
*

I’m new to this. I feel really nervous about…
*** *

… appearing in costume on stage.
*

A: We all had to start sometime. Yes, it can be scary going up on stage the
first few times. Probably, every person you see up there felt that way at
first (some of them who have been doing costumes for years *still* feel that
way), but try to remember that you’re among friends at this convention.
*

… talking to these strangers in costume, talking to experienced costumers
who may look down on me as a newbie, etc.
*

A: Costume fans are one of the friendliest groups of people around. Most of
them love to talk to other people about costuming and costumes, especially
their own costumes. On the other hand, don’t decide that someone is
terminally stuck-up if they don’t want to talk to you just then: they may be
on a serious sleep deficit, need caffeine or food desperately, be jet-lagged
and not feeling very functional, or they may just be really, seriously,
nervous about their presentation a bit later in the con and have a major set
of butterflies distracting them. Just as you sometimes don’t feel like
talking to people, you may also be catching the other person at a bad time.
*

… competing against more experienced costumers.
*

A: This is why the *Division system*** was created. What is the Division
system, you may ask? It is a means of separating the new or inexperienced
costumers from the more experienced costumers, *for purposes of judging*.
The judges (and audience) will recognize that a Novice costumer is likely to
have less experience, and (in some cases) less well honed skills than a
Journeyman, Craftsman, or Master costumer. Novices are judged in relation to
other Novices, Journeymen in relation to Journeymen, and so forth. A Novice
costume is *not* an inferior costume — on a number of occasions, Novice
costumes have won Best In Show, over costumes made and presented by
experienced Masters.
*

What do all of these things regarding the Masquerades/Competitions mean?
**

What is the tech (technical) rehearsal and why do I have to go to it?:
*

A: The *tech rehearsal*** is *very important* to you. At many larger
conventions, and *definitely* at WorldCon or Costume-Con, it is required for
all entrants. It ensures that you actually see the stage you will be
appearing on. Hopefully, you will also

A*walk*@ the stage, as well. If you have a “feel” for the space you will
have available, your presentation will look better, and you are less likely
to fall off the front, back or side of the stage — this is also a safety
factor.

The *”tech” crew*** *really* want to make you look good on stage.
Unfortunately, this is harder if they have no idea what you have in mind. By
going to the tech rehearsal, you will have a chance to explain to them what
you want to do in terms of sound (if you brought a sound effects tape),
lighting, and any other special effects they may have available. They may
even make suggestions that could make your costume or presentation look
better.

The *MC (Master of Ceremonies***/Narrator), who will be announcing your
costume, will also be there. You will have a chance to talk to him or her
about your presentation. If your costume introduction text has any exotic
words in it, you should plan to spell them out phonetically for the MC. Any
text you want read should be CLEARLY printed or typed.

Above all, no matter how much you want to surprise the audience and your
fellow costumers, *never*, *ever***, surprise the *masquerade director***.
He or she will not divulge anything about your planned presentation, but the
director needs to know about anything that may be unusual or potentially
unsafe. This includes things like flash powder, smoke bombs, fog machines,
stuff you plan to throw around on the stage, etc., as well as any unusual
props (accessories) or weapons, or unusual moves (such as leaping off the
stage). *Note*: throwing objects out at the judges and audience is a no-no!
*

What is the Green Room?
*

A: The Green Room is the backstage area where the contestants gather as they
prepare to go on stage. Check-in time usually is at least two hours before
the expected curtain time. The costumers can finish getting into their
costumes (if they haven

=t already done so in their rooms), test their props one last time, and
maybe put on or touch up their makeup. Contestants should *not*** bring
friends or family members (especially children) backstage, unless they are
also going to be on stage B the Green Room is chaotic enough as it is
without non-contestants milling about! Contestants are grouped in “dens,”
with a Den Mom or Den Dad, who helps the costumers in his or her group. This
may include helping you get into your costume, trying to calm jittery
nerves, fetching water/snacks for you if your costume is bulky or awkward to
get around in, and generally doing his/her best to make sure you are ready
to go on stage and look great! The *Green Room Manager*** is the overall
backstage person who keeps the chaos from getting out of hand. He or she
keeps track of which costumes have checked in (or not checked in yet), and
makes sure that the “dens” go up on stage in the proper sequence.

Also customary in the Green Room (at least at larger conventions) is a
Repair Table. It offers basic equipment to effect repairs to a costume which
has developed problems. It is not there for the purpose of
building/assembling/creating your costume — *it is only for repairs*.
Typically, the repair table offers needles, threads of various colors,
safety pins, bobby pins, hot glue guns, small hand tools such as pliers,
adhesives, tapes, string and wire, etc., and may also include a makeup
mirror and some basic makeup repair materials (again, this is for repairs or
touch-ups, not to create a full makeup job). For

(Over

)

health/sanitary reasons, you should plan to bring your own special colors of
lipstick and eye makeup. Sometimes the repair table person will have some
experience with stage makeup, but you cannot rely upon this for sure. Please
note: the equipment and supplies on the repair table are usually the *personal
property* of the person at the repair table, who has kindly donated the use
of them to the con; you should make every effort to return tools, etc. when
you are finished using them.
*

Stage
**

Aninjas@
**

*

will help you get on and off of the stage safely. If you hear someone out
there in the dark say *ASTOP!@*, or feel a slap on your leg or ankle as you
are about to leave the stage, you should *stop***. It probably means that
you aren=t lined up for the stairs and were about to fall off the stage,
because the lights were in your eyes. When you walk the stage during tech
rehearsal, check to see about how many steps you can take forward (or
backward) safely.
*

What is Workmanship Judging? Do I have to be judged for Workmanship?
*

A: The *workmanship judge* does exactly that. He or she gets “up close and
personal,” looking at the special details, such as applique, beadwork,
leather or metalwork, special design and construction of interest, and the
many other facets that comprise *superior*** workmanship on a costume. You
do not have to present yourself to the workmanship judge. However, if there
is some aspect of your costume that you feel exhibits special workmanship or
ingenuity on your part, this is your opportunity to have it recognized. You
do not need to have your entire costume judged for workmanship — you may
elect to have just a tiny facet of your costume judged — a beaded bodice, a
lovingly-hand-hammered breastplate, the cleverly designed mechanism you
invented to make your wings open and close, or the gloves or shoes you made
from scratch. If your costume is held together with spit and baling wire,
don’t even consider it! If there are bits of detail you are really proud of,
you definitely should give workmanship judging serious consideration.
*

What should I do about a sound track?
*

A: Hopefully, you already gave this some thought before you arrived at the
con. The perfect bit of music can help to “make” a so-so costume, just as a
poor choice of music can be jarring and may detract from an otherwise great
presentation. Preferably, your sound should be on tape, not CD, for ease of
cueing. It should not be recorded in “stereo” (right side different from
left side), as the sound system available may not be able to play both

Atracks@ — you might end up with a vital bit of your sound un-played. It
should be *clearly labeled* with your name and your costume’s title. It
should also be labeled “right side” and “wrong side”, so the tech knows
which side of the tape has your sound on — there=s nothing worse than going
out on stage expecting music or voice-over, only to find that your tape got
put in upside down because of poor labeling. (The easiest way to avoid this
is to record your sound on both sides of the tape.) The tape you hand in to
the masquerade director should be already cued-up (on the Aright@ side) to
the point at which you want it to start. It is best to start with a clean
tape, rather than taping over an old one (which could lead to embarrassing
bits of inappropriate sound-track). Put on it just what you need for your
presentation, rather than an entire song/piece of music, to also ensure that
what you *want* will be played. If your tape is properly labeled, it should
be easy to get it back to you after the masquerade. If you didn’t bring a
tape with you, sometimes “tech” can help you out — frequently, they have a
variety of suitable sound bits that they can play, if you work with them
(see “Tech Rehearsal,” above).
*

What’s all this about “Presentation”?
*

A: How you look and move on stage helps you show your costume to the
audience and judges, and helps to convey the costume

=s mood or story. Yes, you can just walk on stage, and then walk off the
other side, but this won=t show off the work you put into your costume (see
also, Tech Rehearsal – walking the stage). Your movements on stage should be
planned to let the judges and audience see the back of the costume as well
as the front, and show off any special decoration or details. At the very
least, plan to move in a circle on stage, to show the back and sides of your
costume as well as the front. Stay in character: if you’re a warrior, stomp;
if you’re a princess, be regal; if you=re a cat, slink and prowl. Your
movements will set the tone of your costume. Think of it as Amethod
acting.@One more thing — remember that the judges are sitting with
their eyes at
about the level of your ankles or knees B don=t forget to hem your costume
and wear appropriate footgear.
*

Why is there a time limit on stage?
*

A: It may not seem like it, but when you

=re up there on stage, a minute is a LOOONNNGGG time! Unless you have a
sizable group, it only takes half or three-quarters of a minute to do a
little Astage business@ and go off. The longer you stay on stage, the better
a Astory@ you should have your costume and presentation tell; if you bore
the audience/judges, you lose them. Dances or martial arts displays that go
on *forever* are booorrring! One of the sayings in costume fandom is Ashort
is good; funny is better; short and funny is best.@ While that isn=t always
the case (there are plenty of serious costumes), it does express the general
idea.
*

I just saw someone walk up to another costumer and say
**

AI hate you!!@ That doesn=t sound very friendly to me!
*

A: It may seem strange, but that phrase is one of the ultimate accolades in
costume fandom, along with

AYou=re *despicable*!!@ What it really means is AYou=ve got a killer costume
that I can=t possibly win against, and I should be jealous, but it=s SO
great that I love it!@ Costumers enjoy and respect a great costume and great
workmanship, even when it=s not their own B that=s what this is all about!

NOW, most important of all, go out and have FUN!!! Oh, and *don*

*=t forget to eat something and get some sleep!!*

**

*(Pasting this in seems to have introduced a couple of strange line breaks
that weren’t originally there — Tina)*
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CC30 Nächster Mode Folioblatt
Guten abend, meine lieben Freunde! Heute ist 1. August und der termin für die Folio verbleiben 1. September 2011. Weniger als einen monat links bekommen die skizzen in!

For those of you who don’t speak German (like me, as you can tell) there’s only one month remaining to get those Folio sketches in – the deadline is September 1, 2011.

I’ve got just over 100 submissions so far – Yeah! But we all know I’m greedy, so more, more more!

Click on the link: http://costumecon30.com/folio.php for all the rules, regs & helpful hints!

Nora Mai
CC30 FFF Director

OMG – the deadline for the Costume-Con 30 Future Fashion Folio is September 1, 2011.
And that’s only one week away. Thank the ghods you can email your submissions, right?

It’s not too late – click on the link: http://costumecon30.com/folio.php for all the rules, regs & helpful hints!

Nora Mai
CC30 FFF Director

Ummm, is there some way, or someone that has access to that countdown clock?
First of all, it still says CC29, and second, it’s counting UP. Kinda
silly, really.

Bruce

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That site is a mystery to me, too.Dora or Sandy, how did you folks get those sites corrected?

Elaine Nil significat nisi oscillat!

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: casamai@sbcglobal.net
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 06:13:28 -0500
Subject: [runacc] CC site countdown clock

Ummm, is there some way, or someone that has access to that countdown clock?

First of all, it still says CC29, and second, it’s counting UP. Kinda

silly, really.

Bruce

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I think Maral posted this on FB a little while back:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3Q3ShwHrJw Really good stuff and
professional-looking. I’m wondering if we could find someone to give us the
same treatment? I could probably do it, if I had the equipment, but it
would take me a while to gear up, come up with an idea, etc. Not to
mention, this guy uses copyrighted music that has a disclaimer with each
one, but I have been leery about that for obvious reasons.

Would it work with our crowd?

Bruce

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Regarding the disclaimer –
He doesn’t have a legal leg to stand on, and given ASCAP’s current
policies I wouldn’t want to be in a position to be sued by them.
Marty

On 9/15/2011 9:45 PM, Nora & Bruce Mai wrote:
>
> I think Maral posted this on FB a little while back:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3Q3ShwHrJw Really good stuff and
> professional-looking. I’m wondering if we could find someone to give
> us the
> same treatment? I could probably do it, if I had the equipment, but it
> would take me a while to gear up, come up with an idea, etc. Not to
> mention, this guy uses copyrighted music that has a disclaimer with each
> one, but I have been leery about that for obvious reasons.
>
> Would it work with our crowd?
>
> Bruce
>
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>
>

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There are numerous, undiscovered, independent, artists who lend their work to these type of projects.

Ackson Lee, a local video maker here, has many great videos with these types of artists.
Example from Otakuthon in Montreal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xoEuvQrZtc

It could be an option.
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: casamai@sbcglobal.net
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:45:11 -0500
Subject: [runacc] A different kind of CC promotion idea

I think Maral posted this on FB a little while back:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3Q3ShwHrJw Really good stuff and

professional-looking. I’m wondering if we could find someone to give us the

same treatment? I could probably do it, if I had the equipment, but it

would take me a while to gear up, come up with an idea, etc. Not to

mention, this guy uses copyrighted music that has a disclaimer with each

one, but I have been leery about that for obvious reasons.

Would it work with our crowd?

Bruce

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On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Nora & Bruce Mai <casamai@sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> I think Maral posted this on FB a little while back:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3Q3ShwHrJw Really good stuff and
> professional-looking. I’m wondering if we could find someone to give us
> the
> same treatment? I could probably do it, if I had the equipment, but it
> would take me a while to gear up, come up with an idea, etc. Not to
> mention, this guy uses copyrighted music that has a disclaimer with each
> one, but I have been leery about that for obvious reasons.
>
>
> Would it work with our crowd?
>
>
> Bruce
>
>

I don’t think it would hurt. It may not work as well if it doesn’t have at
least a few easily recognizable characters in it, though. That said, I love
the two examples posted, although they both had some skin-tastic costumes
they seemed to focus on costumes and faces and not T&A.

I have seriously toyed with filming a series of informative shorts at a
costume con one of these years to be kinda like a video Q&A for all the
unique things about a Costume Con: This is the Historical Masquerade, This
is the Future Fashion Show, etc. If I did that I’d also really try to do a
short retrospective on some CC history, ICG History, and
memories/recollections of costumers past for retrospectives. I think both
would be really worthwhile.

If I had a camera . . . and time 😛

I don’t think copyrighted music would be as big of a problem, there are
plenty of fandom-friendly bands we could hit up.

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The London 2014 WorldCon bid has done a commercial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0P2I2R70-o

Michael

Aurora:

I’ve had some identical ideas to those you’ve mentioned. I’m gearing up
some of them now. My background from many, many years ago was in
broadcasting. So this kind of work is up my alley. I’ll be doing a lot of
productions in the next few years once I’ve got the majority of Archive
material ripped out to usable clips, but I’m open to more ideas and willing
to work with you on something. I’m already working on a informative promo
for CC30, a special retrospective to be shown (hopefully) before the SF masq
and a few other things for the future.

If the music sources Dawn and Aurora have mentioned are any indicator, then
there’s plenty of opportunity, although I wouldn’t even know where to start
on that score. I got a note back from the guy who did the DC vid, and he
acknowledged there’s not copyright protection. But, not surprisingly, when
you’re a low-traffic poster, you’re under the radar pretty much, and I
believe the first step is when a company complains to Youtube, they take you
down. <Shrug>. With my Archive work so far, I’m relying on royalty-free
music from a site that I donate money to. The guy also does commissions on
a sliding scale. I don’t know if he can put out the kind of music in the
anime vids or not, but I’m sure he’d give it a go.

As to the wider discussion of promotion, here’s more grist for the mill in
regards to music videos:

1. I think the audience target would be somewhat different, since our
community is made up of all ages. First question would be: Are we (the
community) “hip” enough, since this still would be targeted towards a
young(ish) online “market”? We have a good number of younger costumers, and
are attracting more, but there are a lot of us baby-boomers.

2. The approach would have to be somewhat different, because many costumes
at CC are of original design. That would affect the music choice,
certainly. And, the biggest appeal to those who consume the vids is
identifying their favorite characters brought to life. So we would have to
figure out how to “glamorize” (for lack of a better term) our costumers in a
way so that they have their own appeal. I like how, in the vid I posted,
there’s a little interaction between characters – the Harry Potter group is
a prime example. Most times, production is more like video portraits,
though. I would think our folks would need to do a little more shtick,
rather than be static.

3. I just wrote that vid guy back, questioning how he corrals that many
people for a shoot. Knowing how notoriously difficult it is to herd
costumer “cats”, nailing people down could be extraordinarily difficult.

4. The best way to see to get the kinds of shots needed, other than taking
people outside, might be to have a stage(d) approach instead. In other
words, shoot everything on stage. Not the most exciting background, but
some of that could be overcome by direction and camera angles. I’m sure
there are plenty of videos of, oh, say, fashion shows that could give cues
as to how to shoot. Maybe there are some anime con vids out there that do
that – I haven’t seen enough to really know, yet. I have an idea in my
head of one way to shoot a vid like this, but it would help to know what
people are bringing, ahead of time. But, it could also work through
creative improvisation, too. Kind of an interactive photo line, where each
entry briefly acknowledges the other as they enter or exit the stage.

Thoughts?

Bruce

—–Original Message—–
From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Aurora Celeste
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:12 PM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [runacc] A different kind of CC promotion idea

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Nora & Bruce Mai
<casamai@sbcglobal.net>wrote:

>

I don’t think it would hurt. It may not work as well if it doesn’t have at
least a few easily recognizable characters in it, though. That said, I love
the two examples posted, although they both had some skin-tastic costumes
they seemed to focus on costumes and faces and not T&A.

I have seriously toyed with filming a series of informative shorts at a
costume con one of these years to be kinda like a video Q&A for all the
unique things about a Costume Con: This is the Historical Masquerade, This
is the Future Fashion Show, etc. If I did that I’d also really try to do a
short retrospective on some CC history, ICG History, and
memories/recollections of costumers past for retrospectives. I think both
would be really worthwhile.

If I had a camera . . . and time 😛

I don’t think copyrighted music would be as big of a problem, there are
plenty of fandom-friendly bands we could hit up.

te: 09/15/11

Bruce,

As I’m sure you’ve noticed, Carl always shot the entire stage. It’s really the only way to get the whole “message” of a costume entry cross.

Elaine
Nil significat nisi oscillat!

4. The best way to see to get the kinds of shots needed, other than taking
people outside, might be to have a stage(d) approach instead. In other
words, shoot everything on stage. Not the most exciting background, but
some of that could be overcome by direction and camera angles. I’m sure
there are plenty of videos of, oh, say, fashion shows that could give cues
as to how to shoot. Maybe there are some anime con vids out there that do
that – I haven’t seen enough to really know, yet. I have an idea in my
head of one way to shoot a vid like this, but it would help to know what
people are bringing, ahead of time. But, it could also work through
creative improvisation, too. Kind of an interactive photo line, where each
entry briefly acknowledges the other as they enter or exit the stage.

Thoughts?

Bruce

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Or, (shameless plug) make CC promotion a special category in the Video
masquerade/Film Festival

Kevin

In that case, you get to tie the bell on the cat!!

Elaine
Nil significat nisi oscillat!

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: chair@cc26.org
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 00:09:04 -0700
Subject: Re: [runacc] A different kind of CC promotion idea

Or, (shameless plug) make CC promotion a special category in the Video
masquerade/Film Festival

Kevin

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Not ringing any bells, for me.
Marty

On 6/6/2011 8:00 AM, Betsy Delaney wrote:
>
> I have a totally vague recollection that Marty might have a copy if you
> don’t, Pierre. Trouble is, I don’t recall whether I saw the
> presentation and
> visualized it or saw it for real. Such a LONG time ago!
>
> -b
>
> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Pierre & Sandy Pettinger <
> costumrs@radiks.net <mailto:costumrs%40radiks.net>> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > At 01:31 PM 6/4/2011, you wrote:
> >
> > I haven’t noticed it in the videos Carl has brought me, but I haven’t
> > been through everything yet. We should probably try to find it.
> >
> > Pierre
> >
> > —
> —
> —
> Betsy Marks Delaney
>
> http://www.hawkeswood.com/
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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Ok, so let’s see if I remember this right: Something to do with shovels and
flashlights, or am I remembering this wrong? Was it a CC presentation or
TackyCon? (…which requires a separate explanation all on its own.)

B

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Martin Gear <MartinGear@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>
> Not ringing any bells, for me.
> Marty
>
>
> On 6/6/2011 8:00 AM, Betsy Delaney wrote:
> >
> > I have a totally vague recollection that Marty might have a copy if you
> > don’t, Pierre. Trouble is, I don’t recall whether I saw the
> > presentation and
> > visualized it or saw it for real. Such a LONG time ago!
> >
> > -b
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Pierre & Sandy Pettinger <
> > costumrs@radiks.net <mailto:costumrs%40radiks.net>> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 01:31 PM 6/4/2011, you wrote:
> > >
> > > I haven’t noticed it in the videos Carl has brought me, but I haven’t
> > > been through everything yet. We should probably try to find it.
> > >
> > > Pierre
> > >
> > > —
> > —
> > —
> > Betsy Marks Delaney
> >
> > http://www.hawkeswood.com/
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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Betsy Marks Delaney

http://www.hawkeswood.com/

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And around here (location of CC30), I think “Friendly Native Guide” would be interpreted more as “I live in this town, can I help you find something?”

— In runacc@yahoogroups.com, osierhenry@… wrote:
>
> In a message dated 6/4/2011 5:41:07 PM Central Daylight Time,
> von_drago@… writes:
> > 2. Welcome Wagon – this one isn’t as finalized yet but basically it would
> > consist of a team of Native Guides who would guide newbies around the con,
> > explain things to them, look for lost souls, introduce the new folks to
> > the vets, etc.
> >
>
> I like this idea!
>
> > Haven’t got all the details together yet but the concept is to provide
> > new people with some folks who can help them find where they need to be,
> > explain jokes &references they don’t get, introduce them to folks with similar
> > interests… just help them wherever they can.
> > Kind of like a wandering den mom – a “Con Mom”.
>
> Good idea. Question: In this area, Con Mom is the person that is on staff
> that makes sure other staffers are alright, as in have eaten, slept, gone to
> the bathroom, etc. So, might another name be better, such as Friendly Native
> Guide? Just a question and an idea.
>
> Henry
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Not sold on any “title” yet – looking for suggestions since we want it to be useful & clear.

Henry – “Con Mom” like Den Mom was my thought, any other term that might imply that?
Marge (Or is ti Margie, which do you prefer?) – “Native Guide” does seem a little more like a geographic local when I’m trying to imply familiarity with the con not neccessarily the area. Although it’d be great if at least one of these folks was local so we could help with shopping, sight-seeing & eating suggestions as well. What else infers – “I know what I’m doing at this con”?

Nora

— On Mon, 6/6/11, Margie <marg1066@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Margie <marg1066@gmail.com>
Subject: [runacc] Newbie stuff (Re: Misperceptions and questions)
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 10:08 AM

And around here (location of CC30), I think “Friendly Native Guide” would be interpreted more as “I live in this town, can I help you find something?”

— In runacc@yahoogroups.com, osierhenry@… wrote:
>
> In a message dated 6/4/2011 5:41:07 PM Central Daylight Time,
> von_drago@… writes:
> > 2. Welcome Wagon – this one isn’t as finalized yet but basically it would
> > consist of a team of Native Guides who would guide newbies around the con,
> > explain things to them, look for lost souls, introduce the new folks to
> > the vets, etc.
> >
>
> I like this idea!
>
> > Haven’t got all the details together yet but the concept is to provide
> > new people with some folks who can help them find where they need to be,
> > explain jokes &references they don’t get, introduce them to folks with similar
> > interests… just help them wherever they can.
> > Kind of like a wandering den mom – a “Con Mom”.
>
> Good idea. Question: In this area, Con Mom is the person that is on staff
> that makes sure other staffers are alright, as in have eaten, slept, gone to
> the bathroom, etc. So, might another name be better, such as Friendly Native
> Guide? Just a question and an idea.
>
> Henry

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Combine them – Con Guide

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Bruce & Nora Mai <casamai@sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> Not sold on any “title” yet – looking for suggestions since we want it to
> be useful & clear.
>
> Henry – “Con Mom” like Den Mom was my thought, any other term that might
> imply that?
> Marge (Or is ti Margie, which do you prefer?) – “Native Guide” does seem a
> little more like a geographic local when I’m trying to imply familiarity
> with the con not neccessarily the area. Although it’d be great if at least
> one of these folks was local so we could help with shopping, sight-seeing &
> eating suggestions as well. What else infers – “I know what I’m doing at
> this con”?
>
> Nora
>
> — On Mon, 6/6/11, Margie <marg1066@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Margie <marg1066@gmail.com>
> Subject: [runacc] Newbie stuff (Re: Misperceptions and questions)
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 10:08 AM
>
>
> And around here (location of CC30), I think “Friendly Native Guide” would
> be interpreted more as “I live in this town, can I help you find something?”
>
>
> — In runacc@yahoogroups.com, osierhenry@… wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 6/4/2011 5:41:07 PM Central Daylight Time,
> > von_drago@… writes:
> > > 2. Welcome Wagon – this one isn’t as finalized yet but basically it
> would
> > > consist of a team of Native Guides who would guide newbies around the
> con,
> > > explain things to them, look for lost souls, introduce the new folks to
> > > the vets, etc.
> > >
> >
> > I like this idea!
> >
> > > Haven’t got all the details together yet but the concept is to provide
> > > new people with some folks who can help them find where they need to
> be,
> > > explain jokes &references they don’t get, introduce them to folks with
> similar
> > > interests… just help them wherever they can.
> > > Kind of like a wandering den mom – a “Con Mom”.
> >
> > Good idea. Question: In this area, Con Mom is the person that is on staff
> > that makes sure other staffers are alright, as in have eaten, slept, gone
> to
> > the bathroom, etc. So, might another name be better, such as Friendly
> Native
> > Guide? Just a question and an idea.
> >
> > Henry
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ————————————
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/Yahoo!
> Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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Nah. Too logical ;P
Actually, that’s the best idea I’ve seen so far. Thanks, Aurora!

Elaine
CC 30 Comfy Chair

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: auroraceleste@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 11:17:11 -0400
Subject: Re: [runacc] Newbie stuff (Re: Misperceptions and questions)

Combine them – Con Guide

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Bruce & Nora Mai <casamai@sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> Not sold on any “title” yet – looking for suggestions since we want it to
> be useful & clear.
>
> Henry – “Con Mom” like Den Mom was my thought, any other term that might
> imply that?
> Marge (Or is ti Margie, which do you prefer?) – “Native Guide” does seem a
> little more like a geographic local when I’m trying to imply familiarity
> with the con not neccessarily the area. Although it’d be great if at least
> one of these folks was local so we could help with shopping, sight-seeing &
> eating suggestions as well. What else infers – “I know what I’m doing at
> this con”?
>
> Nora
>
> — On Mon, 6/6/11, Margie <marg1066@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Margie <marg1066@gmail.com>
> Subject: [runacc] Newbie stuff (Re: Misperceptions and questions)
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 10:08 AM
>
>
> And around here (location of CC30), I think “Friendly Native Guide” would
> be interpreted more as “I live in this town, can I help you find something?”
>
>
> — In runacc@yahoogroups.com, osierhenry@… wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 6/4/2011 5:41:07 PM Central Daylight Time,
> > von_drago@… writes:
> > > 2. Welcome Wagon – this one isn’t as finalized yet but basically it
> would
> > > consist of a team of Native Guides who would guide newbies around the
> con,
> > > explain things to them, look for lost souls, introduce the new folks to
> > > the vets, etc.
> > >
> >
> > I like this idea!
> >
> > > Haven’t got all the details together yet but the concept is to provide
> > > new people with some folks who can help them find where they need to
> be,
> > > explain jokes &references they don’t get, introduce them to folks with
> similar
> > > interests… just help them wherever they can.
> > > Kind of like a wandering den mom – a “Con Mom”.
> >
> > Good idea. Question: In this area, Con Mom is the person that is on staff
> > that makes sure other staffers are alright, as in have eaten, slept, gone
> to
> > the bathroom, etc. So, might another name be better, such as Friendly
> Native
> > Guide? Just a question and an idea.
> >
> > Henry
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ————————————
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/Yahoo!
> Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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Actually, Betsy, it was a “telethon,” called “The Fish Fry,” with D. Jeanette Holloman as the costume-deprived recipient of all of our attention, and more fish puns than anyone needs. I was the well known TV interviewer, Baba Wawa! We even had a news stream (Loooooong roll of paper on 2 rolling pins) running across the bottom of the scene throughout. Oh, and we announced a serious sequin recall, with a lot # about a bazillion digits long, to be seen on the back of each sequin!
and there was a song :/
Carl filmed it, and he must still have it. I’ll check.

Elaine
Nil significat nisi oscillat!

> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> From: aramintamd@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:38:57 -0400
> Subject: Re: [runacc] Re: Post CC info for committees – suggestions for newcomer inclusion
>
> Ok, so let’s see if I remember this right: Something to do with shovels and
> flashlights, or am I remembering this wrong? Was it a CC presentation or
> TackyCon? (…which requires a separate explanation all on its own.)
>
> B
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Martin Gear <MartinGear@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Not ringing any bells, for me.
> > Marty
> >
> >
> > On 6/6/2011 8:00 AM, Betsy Delaney wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a totally vague recollection that Marty might have a copy if you
> > > don’t, Pierre. Trouble is, I don’t recall whether I saw the
> > > presentation and
> > > visualized it or saw it for real. Such a LONG time ago!
> > >
> > > -b
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Pierre & Sandy Pettinger <
> > > costumrs@radiks.net <mailto:costumrs%40radiks.net>> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 01:31 PM 6/4/2011, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I haven’t noticed it in the videos Carl has brought me, but I haven’t
> > > > been through everything yet. We should probably try to find it.
> > > >
> > > > Pierre
> > > >
> > > > —
> > > —
> > > —
> > > Betsy Marks Delaney
> > >
> > > http://www.hawkeswood.com/
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> —
> —
> —
> Betsy Marks Delaney
>
> http://www.hawkeswood.com/
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ————————————
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

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Ok, I don’t remember this at all (not even hearing about it).

Thanks!

-b

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Elaine Mami <ecmami@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>
> Actually, Betsy, it was a “telethon,” called “The Fish Fry,” with D.
> Jeanette Holloman as the costume-deprived recipient of all of our attention,
> and more fish puns than anyone needs. I was the well known TV interviewer,
> Baba Wawa! We even had a news stream (Loooooong roll of paper on 2 rolling
> pins) running across the bottom of the scene throughout. Oh, and we
> announced a serious sequin recall, with a lot # about a bazillion digits
> long, to be seen on the back of each sequin!
> and there was a song :/
> Carl filmed it, and he must still have it. I’ll check.
>
> Elaine
> Nil significat nisi oscillat!
>
> —
—
—
Betsy Marks Delaney

http://www.hawkeswood.com/

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The only flashlights that I remember were from TackyCon, and by this
time, TackyCon is probably best left to the memories of those of us who
were there.
Marty

On 6/6/2011 10:38 AM, Betsy Delaney wrote:
> Ok, so let’s see if I remember this right: Something to do with shovels and
> flashlights, or am I remembering this wrong? Was it a CC presentation or
> TackyCon? (…which requires a separate explanation all on its own.)
>
> B
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Martin Gear<MartinGear@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Not ringing any bells, for me.
>> Marty
>>
>>
>> On 6/6/2011 8:00 AM, Betsy Delaney wrote:
>>> I have a totally vague recollection that Marty might have a copy if you
>>> don’t, Pierre. Trouble is, I don’t recall whether I saw the
>>> presentation and
>>> visualized it or saw it for real. Such a LONG time ago!
>>>
>>> -b
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Pierre& Sandy Pettinger<
>>> costumrs@radiks.net<mailto:costumrs%40radiks.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 01:31 PM 6/4/2011, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I haven’t noticed it in the videos Carl has brought me, but I haven’t
>>>> been through everything yet. We should probably try to find it.
>>>>
>>>> Pierre
>>>>
>>>> —
>>> —
>>> —
>>> Betsy Marks Delaney
>>>
>>> http://www.hawkeswood.com/
>>>
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>
>

“CostumeCon Old Fart”???
Marty (who are one)

On 6/6/2011 11:14 AM, Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:
>
> <snip> I’m trying to imply familiarity with the con not neccessarily
> the area. Although it’d be great if at least one of these folks was
> local so we could help with shopping, sight-seeing & eating
> suggestions as well. What else infers – “I know what I’m doing at this
> con”?
>
> Nora
>

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CostumeCon Know-It-All?

At any rate, we will have locals available to give all of that local info. There will be restaurant and shopping listings, along with their locations in relation to the con. That much we can promise.

What to call the Smart @$$ Old Pharts is another animal entirely.

Elaine
Whose brain is currently OTL

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: MartinGear@comcast.net
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 15:08:38 -0400
Subject: Re: [runacc] Newbie stuff (Re: Misperceptions and questions)

“CostumeCon Old Fart”???
Marty (who are one)

On 6/6/2011 11:14 AM, Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:
>
> <snip> I’m trying to imply familiarity with the con not neccessarily
> the area. Although it’d be great if at least one of these folks was
> local so we could help with shopping, sight-seeing & eating
> suggestions as well. What else infers – “I know what I’m doing at this
> con”?
>
> Nora
>

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I know what I’m doing at this con!?! That’s a pretty high bar that would exclude me for most CCs.

Byron 🙂

On Jun 6, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:

> Not sold on any “title” yet – looking for suggestions since we want it to be useful & clear.
>
> Henry – “Con Mom” like Den Mom was my thought, any other term that might imply that?
> Marge (Or is ti Margie, which do you prefer?) – “Native Guide” does seem a little more like a geographic local when I’m trying to imply familiarity with the con not neccessarily the area. Although it’d be great if at least one of these folks was local so we could help with shopping, sight-seeing & eating suggestions as well. What else infers – “I know what I’m doing at this con”?
>
> Nora
>
> — On Mon, 6/6/11, Margie <marg1066@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Margie <marg1066@gmail.com>
> Subject: [runacc] Newbie stuff (Re: Misperceptions and questions)
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 10:08 AM
>
> And around here (location of CC30), I think “Friendly Native Guide” would be interpreted more as “I live in this town, can I help you find something?”
>
> — In runacc@yahoogroups.com, osierhenry@… wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 6/4/2011 5:41:07 PM Central Daylight Time,
> > von_drago@… writes:
> > > 2. Welcome Wagon – this one isn’t as finalized yet but basically it would
> > > consist of a team of Native Guides who would guide newbies around the con,
> > > explain things to them, look for lost souls, introduce the new folks to
> > > the vets, etc.
> > >
> >
> > I like this idea!
> >
> > > Haven’t got all the details together yet but the concept is to provide
> > > new people with some folks who can help them find where they need to be,
> > > explain jokes &references they don’t get, introduce them to folks with similar
> > > interests… just help them wherever they can.
> > > Kind of like a wandering den mom – a “Con Mom”.
> >
> > Good idea. Question: In this area, Con Mom is the person that is on staff
> > that makes sure other staffers are alright, as in have eaten, slept, gone to
> > the bathroom, etc. So, might another name be better, such as Friendly Native
> > Guide? Just a question and an idea.
> >
> > Henry
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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We have a copy of the VHS tape of TackyCon ’93.

Byron

On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Martin Gear wrote:

> The only flashlights that I remember were from TackyCon, and by this
> time, TackyCon is probably best left to the memories of those of us who
> were there.
> Marty
>
> On 6/6/2011 10:38 AM, Betsy Delaney wrote:
> > Ok, so let’s see if I remember this right: Something to do with shovels and
> > flashlights, or am I remembering this wrong? Was it a CC presentation or
> > TackyCon? (…which requires a separate explanation all on its own.)
> >
> > B
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Martin Gear<MartinGear@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Not ringing any bells, for me.
> >> Marty
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6/6/2011 8:00 AM, Betsy Delaney wrote:
> >>> I have a totally vague recollection that Marty might have a copy if you
> >>> don’t, Pierre. Trouble is, I don’t recall whether I saw the
> >>> presentation and
> >>> visualized it or saw it for real. Such a LONG time ago!
> >>>
> >>> -b
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Pierre& Sandy Pettinger<
> >>> costumrs@radiks.net<mailto:costumrs%40radiks.net>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> At 01:31 PM 6/4/2011, you wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I haven’t noticed it in the videos Carl has brought me, but I haven’t
> >>>> been through everything yet. We should probably try to find it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Pierre
> >>>>
> >>>> —
> >>> —
> >>> —
> >>> Betsy Marks Delaney
> >>>
> >>> http://www.hawkeswood.com/
> >>>
> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>>
> >>>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>

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That one, I like!

Byron

On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Martin Gear wrote:

> “CostumeCon Old Fart”???
> Marty (who are one)
>
> On 6/6/2011 11:14 AM, Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:
> >
> > <snip> I’m trying to imply familiarity with the con not neccessarily
> > the area. Although it’d be great if at least one of these folks was
> > local so we could help with shopping, sight-seeing & eating
> > suggestions as well. What else infers – “I know what I’m doing at this
> > con”?
> >
> > Nora
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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lol – I’d have to agree! “I know what I’m doing” is kind of a scary statement usually reserved for right before one does something that destroys half the city’s power grid.

Nora

— In runacc@yahoogroups.com, Byron Connell <byronpconnell@…> wrote:
>
> I know what I’m doing at this con!?! That’s a pretty high bar that would exclude me for most CCs.
>
> Byron 🙂
>
>
> On Jun 6, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:
>
> > Not sold on any “title” yet – looking for suggestions since we want it to be useful & clear.
> >
> > Henry – “Con Mom” like Den Mom was my thought, any other term that might imply that?
> > Marge (Or is ti Margie, which do you prefer?) – “Native Guide” does seem a little more like a geographic local when I’m trying to imply familiarity with the con not neccessarily the area. Although it’d be great if at least one of these folks was local so we could help with shopping, sight-seeing & eating suggestions as well. What else infers – “I know what I’m doing at this con”?
> >
> > Nora
> >
> > — On Mon, 6/6/11, Margie <marg1066@…> wrote:
> >
> > From: Margie <marg1066@…>
> > Subject: [runacc] Newbie stuff (Re: Misperceptions and questions)
> > To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 10:08 AM
> >
> > And around here (location of CC30), I think “Friendly Native Guide” would be interpreted more as “I live in this town, can I help you find something?”
> >
> > — In runacc@yahoogroups.com, osierhenry@ wrote:
> > >
> > > In a message dated 6/4/2011 5:41:07 PM Central Daylight Time,
> > > von_drago@ writes:
> > > > 2. Welcome Wagon – this one isn’t as finalized yet but basically it would
> > > > consist of a team of Native Guides who would guide newbies around the con,
> > > > explain things to them, look for lost souls, introduce the new folks to
> > > > the vets, etc.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I like this idea!
> > >
> > > > Haven’t got all the details together yet but the concept is to provide
> > > > new people with some folks who can help them find where they need to be,
> > > > explain jokes &references they don’t get, introduce them to folks with similar
> > > > interests… just help them wherever they can.
> > > > Kind of like a wandering den mom – a “Con Mom”.
> > >
> > > Good idea. Question: In this area, Con Mom is the person that is on staff
> > > that makes sure other staffers are alright, as in have eaten, slept, gone to
> > > the bathroom, etc. So, might another name be better, such as Friendly Native
> > > Guide? Just a question and an idea.
> > >
> > > Henry
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Depends on the Tackycon. I seem to recall there is one in the Archives here
(you might have given it to us), that might be the one you’re referring to.
I’ve not watched it, nor do I believe it’s been digitized yet.

Bruce

“Our Hobby – Our History”

Assistant Archivist, Pat & Peggy Kennedy Memorial Library

IC Gallery Admin

https://costume.pixi.me/main.php

From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Martin Gear
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 2:06 PM
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [runacc] Re: Post CC info for committees – suggestions for
newcomer inclusion

The only flashlights that I remember were from TackyCon, and by this
time, TackyCon is probably best left to the memories of those of us who
were there.
Marty

On 6/6/2011 10:38 AM, Betsy Delaney wrote:
> Ok, so let’s see if I remember this right: Something to do with shovels
and
> flashlights, or am I remembering this wrong? Was it a CC presentation or
> TackyCon? (…which requires a separate explanation all on its own.)
>
> B
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Martin Gear<MartinGear@comcast.net>
wrote:
>
>>
>> Not ringing any bells, for me.
>> Marty
>>
>>
>> On 6/6/2011 8:00 AM, Betsy Delaney wrote:
>>> I have a totally vague recollection that Marty might have a copy if you
>>> don’t, Pierre. Trouble is, I don’t recall whether I saw the
>>> presentation and
>>> visualized it or saw it for real. Such a LONG time ago!
>>>
>>> -b
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Pierre& Sandy Pettinger<
>>> costumrs@radiks.net<mailto:costumrs%40radiks.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 01:31 PM 6/4/2011, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I haven’t noticed it in the videos Carl has brought me, but I haven’t
>>>> been through everything yet. We should probably try to find it.
>>>>
>>>> Pierre
>>>>
>>>> —
>>> —
>>> —
>>> Betsy Marks Delaney
>>>
>>> http://www.hawkeswood.com/
>>>
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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I like “Convention Guide” for ribbons.

As for my name — I love to try to clear this up, although it never holds for long.

My name is Margaret, but I also go by Margie & Marg. [NONE of these words has a “soft g” sound, like a J… all have the “hard g” sound.] Because Margie and Marg are unusual, and as such forgettable, if you can’t remember them, feel free to call me Margaret… cuz pretty much everyone knows how to say that.

I am never “Marge” — I hate that name, and saying it in front of me pretty much guarantees I will try to correct it. 🙂

All that said, good luck. 🙂

Btw, I was hopeful that once the “pronunciation” trail was blazed by Marg Helgenberger of CSI (and prior to that, China Beach), life as “Marg” would be easier. But while most people would recognize her face, they still don’t know her name. (drat)

— In runacc@yahoogroups.com, Bruce & Nora Mai <casamai@…> wrote:
>
> Marge (Or is ti Margie, which do you prefer?) – “Native Guide” does seem a little more like a geographic local when I’m trying to imply familiarity with the con not neccessarily the area. Although it’d be great if at least one of these folks was local so we could help with shopping, sight-seeing & eating suggestions as well. What else infers – “I know what I’m doing at this con”?
> �
> Nora
>
> — On Mon, 6/6/11, Margie <marg1066@…> wrote:
>
>
> From: Margie <marg1066@…>
> Subject: [runacc] Newbie stuff (Re: Misperceptions and questions)
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 10:08 AM
>
>
> And around here (location of CC30), I think “Friendly Native Guide” would be interpreted more as “I live in this town, can I help you find something?”
>
>
> — In runacc@yahoogroups.com, osierhenry@ wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 6/4/2011 5:41:07 PM Central Daylight Time,
> > von_drago@ writes:
> > > 2. Welcome Wagon – this one isn’t as finalized yet but basically it would
> > > consist of a team of Native Guides who would guide newbies around the con,
> > > explain things to them, look for lost souls, introduce the new folks to
> > > the vets, etc.
> > >
> >
> > I like this idea!
> >
> > > Haven’t got all the details together yet but the concept is to provide
> > > new people with some folks who can help them find where they need to be,
> > > explain jokes &references they don’t get, introduce them to folks with similar
> > > interests… just help them wherever they can.
> > > Kind of like a wandering den mom – a “Con Mom”.
> >
> > Good idea. Question: In this area, Con Mom is the person that is on staff
> > that makes sure other staffers are alright, as in have eaten, slept, gone to
> > the bathroom, etc. So, might another name be better, such as Friendly Native
> > Guide? Just a question and an idea.
> >
> > Henry
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Best laugh ALL morning!

-b

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Nora <von_drago@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> lol – I’d have to agree! “I know what I’m doing” is kind of a scary
> statement usually reserved for right before one does something that destroys
> half the city’s power grid.
>
> Nora
>
—
—
—
Betsy Marks Delaney

http://www.hawkeswood.com/

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There was also a Tackycon West, held at the rec center at Fran Evan’s
complex, as I recall. I came as the costumers’ superhero, SuperGlue. I
recall grossing out some annoying “V” fans by eating gummi worms with
quacamole.

I *don’t* know if there is video from its masquerade.

Kevin

On 6/7/2011 5:16 AM, Nora & Bruce Mai wrote:
>
> Depends on the Tackycon. I seem to recall there is one in the Archives
> here
> (you might have given it to us), that might be the one you’re
> referring to.
> I’ve not watched it, nor do I believe it’s been digitized yet.
>
> Bruce
>

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In a message dated 6/6/2011 10:14:28 AM Central Daylight Time,
casamai@sbcglobal.net writes:

> Not sold on any “title” yet – looking for suggestions since we want it to
> be useful &clear.
>
> “Native Guide” does seem a little more like a geographic local when I’m
> trying to imply familiarity with the con not neccessarily the area.
>
>
>

Ah! My brain says there is a name for that. I just can’t think of it. All I
can think of is the title the character Julie had on the Love Boat series.

I do think F.N.G.’s and Friendly Con Guides are both good ideas.

Henry

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In a message dated 6/6/2011 6:45:14 PM Central Daylight Time,
byronpconnell@gmail.com writes:

> I know what I’m doing at this con!?! That’s a pretty high bar that would
> exclude me for most CCs.

Byron,
You would be a great person for noobs to go to for guidance!
Henry

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Cruise Director – and that is one of the examples I was using when I was tossing around ideas.
Not sure that title would work. Or her alternative “Activities Director”.

Nora

— On Tue, 6/7/11, osierhenry@cs.com <osierhenry@cs.com> wrote:

From: osierhenry@cs.com <osierhenry@cs.com>
Subject: Re: [runacc] Newbie stuff (Re: Misperceptions and questions)
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 3:40 PM

In a message dated 6/6/2011 10:14:28 AM Central Daylight Time,
casamai@sbcglobal.net writes:
> Not sold on any “title” yet – looking for suggestions since we want it to
> be useful &clear.
>
> “Native Guide” does seem a little more like a geographic local when I’m
> trying to imply familiarity with the con not neccessarily the area.
>
>
>
Ah! My brain says there is a name for that. I just can’t think of it. All I
can think of is the title the character Julie had on the Love Boat series.

I do think F.N.G.’s and Friendly Con Guides are both good ideas.

Henry

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In a message dated 6/7/2011 8:50:32 AM Central Daylight Time,
marg1066@gmail.com writes:

> I like “Convention Guide” for ribbons.
>

That would work! And, if a quantity would be made, CC’s from next year
forward could keep using them. “If you need general assistance at the con, look
for someone with an orange ribbon that says Con Guide.” As an example.

> As for my name — I love to try to clear this up, although it never holds
> for long.
>
> My name is Margaret, but I also go by Margie &Marg.
>
>
>

That will cause a bit of confusion. Mind if we call you Bruce, just to make
it easy? ;p

Henry

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Hello!
While at CC this year, I thought that it might be handy for those of
us who have run or worked a CC before to make a list of Good Advice things.
Like “Feed your Judges and Tech Crew.”
I would be glad to compile the list from everyone’s input.
Let me know what you think.
Henry

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I would appreciate that! Although we have already been compiling something of the sort, I’m certain we will miss something.
#1 Make sure the chair is fed and watered! And gets a few minutes’ rest each day ;P

We are already planning on feeding tech, too, in the con suite.

Elaine
Nil significat nisi oscillat!

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: osierhenry@cs.com
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:13:42 -0400
Subject: [runacc] Another idea while our brains are working

Hello!
While at CC this year, I thought that it might be handy for those of
us who have run or worked a CC before to make a list of Good Advice things.
Like “Feed your Judges and Tech Crew.”
I would be glad to compile the list from everyone’s input.
Let me know what you think.
Henry

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and make sure the mc is considered part of tech. Anime north is the only times I
as mc have ever gotten dinner/snacks or anything in the midst of all of it,
especially at cc, the mc works almost as long as tech, and waaay longer than the
judges
Gravely MacCabre
http://www.castleblood.com
http://facebook.com/gravelymaccabre
http://etsy.com/shops/gravelymaccabre

tv show clip samples at
http://www.veoh.com/channels/castleblood

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From: Elaine Mami <ecmami@hotmail.com>
To: Betsy D <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, June 7, 2011 5:20:48 PM
Subject: RE: [runacc] Another idea while our brains are working

I would appreciate that!  Although we have already been compiling something of
the sort, I’m certain we will miss something.
#1  Make sure the chair is fed and watered!  And gets a few minutes’ rest each
day ;P

We are already planning on feeding tech, too, in the con suite.

Elaine
Nil significat nisi oscillat!

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: osierhenry@cs.com
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:13:42 -0400
Subject: [runacc] Another idea while our brains are working

Hello!
While at CC this year, I thought that it might be handy for those of
us who have run or worked a CC before to make a list of Good Advice things.
Like “Feed your Judges and Tech Crew.”
I would be glad to compile the list from everyone’s input.
Let me know what you think.
Henry

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The idea has always been to use them again. If we get the idea solid then it can just continue from con to con with a little pamphlet of FAQs & newbie ribbons.
If it becomes a standarad thing then folks (even not newbies) will get the idea of what to look for.
Plus we can promote that to our newbies as they come in.

Nora

— On Tue, 6/7/11, osierhenry@cs.com <osierhenry@cs.com> wrote:

From: osierhenry@cs.com <osierhenry@cs.com>
Subject: Re: [runacc] Newbie stuff (Re: Misperceptions and questions)
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 4:09 PM

That would work! And, if a quantity would be made, CC’s from next year
forward could keep using them. “If you need general assistance at the con, look
for someone with an orange ribbon that says Con Guide.” As an example.

Henry

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Absolutely! As MC, I have often had to scramble to grab something to eat. Not good. The Judges, IMO, can feed themselves – they have time – but will need something like green room nibbles and water during deliberations.

Elaine
Nil significat nisi oscillat!

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: gravelymac@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:31:47 -0700
Subject: Re: [runacc] Another idea while our brains are working

and make sure the mc is considered part of tech. Anime north is the only times I
as mc have ever gotten dinner/snacks or anything in the midst of all of it,
especially at cc, the mc works almost as long as tech, and waaay longer than the
judges
Gravely MacCabre
http://www.castleblood.com
http://facebook.com/gravelymaccabre
http://etsy.com/shops/gravelymaccabre

tv show clip samples at
http://www.veoh.com/channels/castleblood

________________________________
From: Elaine Mami <ecmami@hotmail.com>
To: Betsy D <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, June 7, 2011 5:20:48 PM
Subject: RE: [runacc] Another idea while our brains are working

I would appreciate that! Although we have already been compiling something of
the sort, I’m certain we will miss something.
#1 Make sure the chair is fed and watered! And gets a few minutes’ rest each
day ;P

We are already planning on feeding tech, too, in the con suite.

Elaine
Nil significat nisi oscillat!

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: osierhenry@cs.com
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:13:42 -0400
Subject: [runacc] Another idea while our brains are working

Hello!
While at CC this year, I thought that it might be handy for those of
us who have run or worked a CC before to make a list of Good Advice things.
Like “Feed your Judges and Tech Crew.”
I would be glad to compile the list from everyone’s input.
Let me know what you think.
Henry

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Absolutely! As MC, I have often had to scramble to grab something to eat. Not good. The Judges, IMO, can feed themselves – they have time – but will need something like green room nibbles and water during deliberations.

Elaine
Nil significat nisi oscillat!

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: gravelymac@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:31:47 -0700
Subject: Re: [runacc] Another idea while our brains are working

and make sure the mc is considered part of tech. Anime north is the only times I
as mc have ever gotten dinner/snacks or anything in the midst of all of it,
especially at cc, the mc works almost as long as tech, and waaay longer than the
judges
Gravely MacCabre
http://www.castleblood.com
http://facebook.com/gravelymaccabre
http://etsy.com/shops/gravelymaccabre

tv show clip samples at
http://www.veoh.com/channels/castleblood

________________________________
From: Elaine Mami <ecmami@hotmail.com>
To: Betsy D <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, June 7, 2011 5:20:48 PM
Subject: RE: [runacc] Another idea while our brains are working

I would appreciate that! Although we have already been compiling something of
the sort, I’m certain we will miss something.
#1 Make sure the chair is fed and watered! And gets a few minutes’ rest each
day ;P

We are already planning on feeding tech, too, in the con suite.

Elaine
Nil significat nisi oscillat!

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: osierhenry@cs.com
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:13:42 -0400
Subject: [runacc] Another idea while our brains are working

Hello!
While at CC this year, I thought that it might be handy for those of
us who have run or worked a CC before to make a list of Good Advice things.
Like “Feed your Judges and Tech Crew.”
I would be glad to compile the list from everyone’s input.
Let me know what you think.
Henry

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Sure. It’s a good idea.

Item #1: Check the stage for safety!

Byron

On Jun 7, 2011, at 5:13 PM, osierhenry@cs.com wrote:

> Hello!
> While at CC this year, I thought that it might be handy for those of
> us who have run or worked a CC before to make a list of Good Advice things.
> Like “Feed your Judges and Tech Crew.”
> I would be glad to compile the list from everyone’s input.
> Let me know what you think.
> Henry
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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No! You don’t want the judges to have food and water during their deliberations. You want them to be prompt.

On a more serious note, I use dinner before the show as a final opportunity to brief the judges.

Byron

On Jun 7, 2011, at 5:40 PM, Elaine Mami wrote:

>
> Absolutely! As MC, I have often had to scramble to grab something to eat. Not good. The Judges, IMO, can feed themselves – they have time – but will need something like green room nibbles and water during deliberations.
>
> Elaine
> Nil significat nisi oscillat!
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>
>
>
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> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> From: gravelymac@yahoo.com
> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:31:47 -0700
> Subject: Re: [runacc] Another idea while our brains are working
>
>
>
>
>
>
> and make sure the mc is considered part of tech. Anime north is the only times I
> as mc have ever gotten dinner/snacks or anything in the midst of all of it,
> especially at cc, the mc works almost as long as tech, and waaay longer than the
> judges
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> Sent: Tue, June 7, 2011 5:20:48 PM
> Subject: RE: [runacc] Another idea while our brains are working
>
> I would appreciate that! Although we have already been compiling something of
> the sort, I’m certain we will miss something.
> #1 Make sure the chair is fed and watered! And gets a few minutes’ rest each
> day ;P
>
> We are already planning on feeding tech, too, in the con suite.
>
> Elaine
> Nil significat nisi oscillat!
>
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> From: osierhenry@cs.com
> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:13:42 -0400
> Subject: [runacc] Another idea while our brains are working
>
>
>
> Hello!
> While at CC this year, I thought that it might be handy for those of
> us who have run or worked a CC before to make a list of Good Advice things.
> Like “Feed your Judges and Tech Crew.”
> I would be glad to compile the list from everyone’s input.
> Let me know what you think.
> Henry
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In my records, I show that I digitized that, although, for some reason, I
don’t show that I made copies. Did I give you a disk?

Bruce

From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Byron Connell
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To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [runacc] Re: Post CC info for committees – suggestions for
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We have a copy of the VHS tape of TackyCon ’93.

Byron

On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Martin Gear wrote:

> The only flashlights that I remember were from TackyCon, and by this
> time, TackyCon is probably best left to the memories of those of us who
> were there.
> Marty
>
> On 6/6/2011 10:38 AM, Betsy Delaney wrote:
> > Ok, so let’s see if I remember this right: Something to do with shovels
and
> > flashlights, or am I remembering this wrong? Was it a CC presentation or
> > TackyCon? (…which requires a separate explanation all on its own.)
> >
> > B
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Martin Gear<MartinGear@comcast.net>
wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Not ringing any bells, for me.
> >> Marty
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6/6/2011 8:00 AM, Betsy Delaney wrote:
> >>> I have a totally vague recollection that Marty might have a copy if
you
> >>> don’t, Pierre. Trouble is, I don’t recall whether I saw the
> >>> presentation and
> >>> visualized it or saw it for real. Such a LONG time ago!
> >>>
> >>> -b
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Pierre& Sandy Pettinger<
> >>> costumrs@radiks.net<mailto:costumrs%40radiks.net>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> At 01:31 PM 6/4/2011, you wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I haven’t noticed it in the videos Carl has brought me, but I haven’t
> >>>> been through everything yet. We should probably try to find it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Pierre
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Having survived many Balticons thanks to someone thrusting a sandwich at me as I left the tech rehearsal to get into my own costume in time to MC I agree completely with Ricky’s comment.

Marty

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and make sure the mc is considered part of tech. Anime north is the only times I

as mc have ever gotten dinner/snacks or anything in the midst of all of it,

especially at cc, the mc works almost as long as tech, and waaay longer than the

judges

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We are already planning on feeding tech, too, in the con suite.

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Hello!

While at CC this year, I thought that it might be handy for those of

us who have run or worked a CC before to make a list of Good Advice things.

Like “Feed your Judges and Tech Crew.”

I would be glad to compile the list from everyone’s input.

Let me know what you think.

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How about: (with a superhero costume/cape in mind) Answer (Wo)Man?
or (with a steampunk periscope hat) the Eye-Spy Guy

Sorry, that’s what I get for asking hubby for his input. 😉

And since Marg is busy, I’ll play interpreter & say it’s Marg with a
hard ‘g’, like Margaret. (From a correction in a FB post way back when I
didn’t know)

~Elaine S.

In a message dated 6/7/2011 10:07:33 PM Central Daylight Time,
casamai@sbcglobal.net writes:

> Cruise Director – and that is one of the examples I was using when I was
> tossing around ideas.
> Not sure that title would work. Or her alternative “Activities Director”.
>
>
>

That was it!

Henry

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In a message dated 6/7/2011 7:29:20 PM Central Daylight Time,
byronpconnell@gmail.com writes:

> No! You don’t want the judges to have food and water during their
> deliberations. You want them to be prompt.
>
>
>

As a judge, I like to have some water during judging. And an opportunity to
run to the bathroom.

Henry

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Hi Bruce, Hi all,

Responding to the first question, personally I can’t forsee lowering the memberships,
perhaps instead give added value where possible. As an example I’d love to
lower the membership costs myself, but real estate here is so expensive the hotel
is going to cost big time. I am hoping to make the price justifiable in content.

I really was hoping I’d be able to attract someone to help with grant writing, and brining
in sponsors as well, but currently have nobody in that position so it may fall to me ultimately.

Furthermore as I pointed out, Cosutme-Con prices are in line with other specialty
conventions and conferences and I believe it’s uniqueness can easily justify the cost
if it is continually well run and full of quality content.

Regarding the second point. Some of the long-time con-goers are “elitist”, or at least demonstrate those attitudes.
The question is what are the rest of us going to do about it?

I believe you are correct that the initiatives we’re already talking about will be the beginning of solving some
of these problems.

Actively discussing and planning to start an outreach program to welcome in new members to costume-con
and following thru by having con ambassadors on site will be a big start.

I remember when we first attended costume-con for the first time, we had mostly positive experiences with people,
and a few very welcoming people, (such as yourself), who took the time to answer our questions and make sure we
were having a good time. I’ll admit that was a large factor in deciding to come back.

I’m hoping for CC-32 by getting a large number of younger costuming locals involved in the con-com and running events from the various other fandoms,
anime (cosplayers, lolitas, dollers, kimono enthusiasts), furry (fursuiters), sci-fi (steampunks, cyberpunks, media recreationists), gaming, (larpers, warhammer costumers),
scadians, etc, it will help make people who are new to costume con, feel more comfortable. I think seeing friendly faces from their local conventions will
make costume con seem less daunting. Of course this isn’t a fix for every costume con, but hopefully integrating new people from different arenas to act as friendly faces
will be helpful.

We already know it works, because Maral and I were able to convince a few people from Quebec to come at CC27, and then more from Ontario for CC28, and more again from both provinces for CC29. But it was again the friendly other people from CC who made the kids love it and want to come back. Admittedly rare bad attitudes and experiences with a few long time cc members with nasty attitudes have coloured this most recent CC experience for some, but the overwhelming welcome you all give is what will keep people coming back. 🙂

By the way, I’m using “Con Ambassadors” and “Friendly Faces” for the Toronto CC instead of native guide, (which will be for Torontonians who can give directons or will be leading tours), so if anybody wants to pinch either of these, feel free of course. 🙂

~Dawn

So – first question, kind of repeating what I said earlier in response to

Dawn: since the FFF will no longer be one of the major expenses the

committees have to worry about, will that allow them to somewhat lower

memberships? That may not be realistic. How do you promote the value of

CC, knowledge-wise, and single focus (all-costumes, all the time) to be

worth the cost?

Another perception that still seems to come up is that somehow the long-time

con-goers are “elitist”. This notion has also been a bane to the ICG over

the years. Some of this perception is the whole shyness thing of the vets,

where newcomers think no one wants to talk to them. Can we do anything

about that? Maybe the initiatives CC30 and 32 are working on might be the

answer.

Bruce

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The judges can have as much water as they like but NO bathroom.
Speeds up the judging process.

Nora

— In runacc@yahoogroups.com, osierhenry@… wrote:
>
> In a message dated 6/7/2011 7:29:20 PM Central Daylight Time,
> byronpconnell@… writes:
> > No! You don’t want the judges to have food and water during their
> > deliberations. You want them to be prompt.
> >
> >
> >
> As a judge, I like to have some water during judging. And an opportunity to
> run to the bathroom.
>
> Henry
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Try that on me and I’ll just use a water glass as an emergency
receptacle. You Have Been Warned.

But seriously — if the judges have been chosen carefully and the clerk
empowered to be a vocal timekeeper, they should be able to keep
personalities out of it and come back in the allotted time.

Kevin

On 6/8/2011 4:35 PM, Nora wrote:
>
> The judges can have as much water as they like but NO bathroom.
> Speeds up the judging process.
>
> Nora
>

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Cstumers with personalities? Shirley you jest!!

Elaine
Nil significat nisi oscillat!

To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
From: chair@cc26.org
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 17:20:11 -0700
Subject: Re: [runacc] Re: Another idea while our brains are working

Try that on me and I’ll just use a water glass as an emergency
receptacle. You Have Been Warned.

But seriously — if the judges have been chosen carefully and the clerk
empowered to be a vocal timekeeper, they should be able to keep
personalities out of it and come back in the allotted time.

Kevin

On 6/8/2011 4:35 PM, Nora wrote:
>
> The judges can have as much water as they like but NO bathroom.
> Speeds up the judging process.
>
> Nora
>

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All together now, “…and don’t call me Shirley!”

On 6/8/2011 8:28 PM, Elaine Mami wrote:
> Cstumers with personalities? Shirley you jest!!
>
> Elaine
> Nil significat nisi oscillat!
>
>
>
>
>
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> From: chair@cc26.org
> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 17:20:11 -0700
> Subject: Re: [runacc] Re: Another idea while our brains are working
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Try that on me and I’ll just use a water glass as an emergency
> receptacle. You Have Been Warned.
>
> But seriously — if the judges have been chosen carefully and the clerk
> empowered to be a vocal timekeeper, they should be able to keep
> personalities out of it and come back in the allotted time.
>
> Kevin
>
> On 6/8/2011 4:35 PM, Nora wrote:
>> The judges can have as much water as they like but NO bathroom.
>> Speeds up the judging process.
>>
>> Nora
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At 12:28 PM 6/7/2011, you wrote:

And a couple of Tackycon Mid-Wests as well.

Pierre

>
>
>There was also a Tackycon West, held at the rec center at Fran Evan’s
>complex, as I recall. I came as the costumers’ superhero, SuperGlue. I
>recall grossing out some annoying “V” fans by eating gummi worms with
>quacamole.
>
>I *don’t* know if there is video from its masquerade.
>
>Kevin
>
>On 6/7/2011 5:16 AM, Nora & Bruce Mai wrote:
> >
> > Depends on the Tackycon. I seem to recall there is one in the Archives
> > here
> > (you might have given it to us), that might be the one you’re
> > referring to.
> > I’ve not watched it, nor do I believe it’s been digitized yet.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
>
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International Costumers’ Guild Archivist

http://www.costume.org/gallery2/main.php

“Those Who Fail to Learn History
Are Doomed to Repeat It;
Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly –
Why They Are Simply Doomed.”

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“The Illusion of Historical Fact”
— C. Y. 4971

Andromeda

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Hi All,

I’m working on the expectations outline for CC32 and I want to check against previous Costume Cons. If you could help by answering
a few questions, (and giving personal observations of what worked and what didn’t if you feel they’ll be helpful), I will be very appreciative.
I have ideas of how I would like things to run, but having what has gone before/what is expected at a Costume Con as a guideline will be very helpful.
I know what I’ve seen and experienced by my own observation but I’d like do draw on the experiences of others particularly those who
have done it before.
Thank you. Cheers! 🙂 ~Dawn

What day did you take possession of your function rooms at the hotel? What day/time did your dealers set up?What day/time did your dealers tare down?
What time did your exhibits rooms set up?
What day/time did you start taring down
How early did your consuite open?Programming during the masquerades, yes/no?Tours, better on one day? or on either end of the regular convention weekend?More to come

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Dawn –
Most of this applies to CC’s 3; 9; 15; and 27. (Yes, there is a reason
why we didn’t do 21. You can ask Ricky for the ugly details.)
1- What day did you take possession of your function rooms at the hotel?
What day/time did your dealers set up?What day/time did your dealers
tare down?

I moved into the Hotels Thursday before the convention. (Wednesday for
CC-27) Checked to make certain that the function rooms with the
exception of the “Main Tent” were set up and ready for us at o’dark
early on Friday. Main Tent was cleared for start of set up Friday
morning. For CC-27, the hotel actually cleared and set up all except
for 4 function rooms Wednesday night so we were able to bring in some
Tech equipment on Thursday and began setting up our “Main Tent” on
Thursday afternoon. One of the lockable function rooms with outside
access was turned over to us on Thursday so that we could load and store
equipment. The remaining function rooms were set up Thursday night.
Dealers started setting up 8 AM on Friday morning. Goal was to have the
Dealers Room open by 4 PM on Friday.
For CC-3 Dealers Room closed on Sunday, all dealers out by Noon on
Monday. For the others, Dealers Room closed some time on Monday, Dealers
out by midnight Monday.

2- What time did your exhibits rooms set up?
CC-3 and CC-9 Exhibits were in the center of the Dealers Room. Exhibits
started setting up 8 AM on Friday. CC-15 if I remember correctly,
Exhibits were in a function room on an upper floor and set up started on
Thursday night when we got the keys. CC-27 Exhibits were in the
Function room that we had gotten early for storage, so partial set up
started on Thursday (panels assembled and put in place) and continued on
Friday as exhibitors arrived and stored equipment removed.

3- What day/time did you start taring down?
Started Monday morning. CC-3 finished Monday by noon. CC’s 9, 15, and
27 completed tear down by Monday midnight for all room.

4- How early did your consuite open?Programming during the masquerades,
yes/no?Tours, better on one day? or on either end of the regular
convention weekend?
Consuites opened between 4 and 5 PM on Friday
No programming during the masquerades
Tours mostly planned before the conventions; CC-27 I believe had tours
both before and after. I’m not sure if any were planned for Fridays.

That should get you started.
Marty

On 6/22/2011 3:11 PM, Kaijugal . wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I’m working on the expectations outline for CC32 and I want to check
> against previous Costume Cons. If you could help by answering
> a few questions, (and giving personal observations of what worked and
> what didn’t if you feel they’ll be helpful), I will be very appreciative.
> I have ideas of how I would like things to run, but having what has
> gone before/what is expected at a Costume Con as a guideline will be
> very helpful.
> I know what I’ve seen and experienced by my own observation but I’d
> like do draw on the experiences of others particularly those who
> have done it before.
> Thank you. Cheers! 🙂 ~Dawn
>
> What day did you take possession of your function rooms at the hotel?
> What day/time did your dealers set up?What day/time did your dealers
> tare down?
> What time did your exhibits rooms set up?
> What day/time did you start taring down
> How early did your consuite open?Programming during the masquerades,
> yes/no?Tours, better on one day? or on either end of the regular
> convention weekend?More to come
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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CC16 & 25
Took possesion on Friday night for most function space, but some on Thursday night.
Dealers set up Friday morning both times, opened in the afternoon.
Dealer tear down on Monday afternoon for both, room was open until noon, maybe a little after.
Exhibits set up Thursday night at 16, Friday at 25 (I think). Took them down Monday afternoon.
Consuite opened on Thursday evening, closed during large events.
No programming during masqs.
Tours – mostly scheduled for Thursday, some on Friday. Some small stuff on Monday.

Nora

— In runacc@yahoogroups.com, “Kaijugal .” <kaijugal@…> wrote:
> What day did you take possession of your function rooms at the hotel? What day/time did your dealers set up?What day/time did your dealers tare down?
> What time did your exhibits rooms set up?
> What day/time did you start taring down
> How early did your consuite open?Programming during the masquerades, yes/no?Tours, better on one day? or on either end of the regular convention weekend?More to come

At 02:11 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote:

Nora has already answered for CC 25. for CC10 and 24

>What day did you take possession of your function rooms at the
>hotel? What day/time did your dealers set up?What day/time did your
>dealers tare down?

Thursday for CC10. IRRC, we got CC24’s space on Wednesday evening.

>What time did your exhibits rooms set up?

For 10 and 24 on Friday morning. Due to arrival times of attendees
you always will have things drifting in throughout the day.

>What day/time did you start tearing down

Monday at about 10 or so

>How early did your consuite open?

Thursday evening.

>Programming during the masquerades, yes/no?

Absolutely nothing scheduled against the masquerades or the Future
Fashion Show/Single Pattern. The latter could be scheduled during the
Friday Night Social PROVIDED that it is in the same room as the
Social and announced as a feature of the Social.

>Tours, better on one day? or on either end of the regular convention weekend?

Either side (actually both sides) work well so long as you announce
well in advance.

Pierre

>More to come

International Costumers’ Guild Archivist

http://www.costume.org/gallery2/main.php

“Those Who Fail to Learn History
Are Doomed to Repeat It;
Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly –
Why They Are Simply Doomed.”

Achemdro’hm
“The Illusion of Historical Fact”
— C. Y. 4971

Andromeda

For CC30 — Our PLANS are to:

Get Exhibits/Dolls/Quilts/Puppets Room set up Thursday night if possible.

Get Dealers’ Room set up Thursday night if possible. We have the Dealers’ Room contracted until midnight Monday night, so my hope is to have it open through Monday afternoon, if that seems reasonable.

ConSuite gets the room on Wednesday, so should be ready to roll by noon or so on Thursday.

I believe we are not scheduling any Programming opposite any of the Big Events, and ConSuite will be closed then too. Our Friday Night Social will also host the CC Runway competition and the Single Pattern Show.

We’ll have Tours scheduled before and after the convention, and at least one small one on Friday as well.

— In runacc@yahoogroups.com, Pierre & Sandy Pettinger <costumrs@…> wrote:
>
> At 02:11 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote:
>
> Nora has already answered for CC 25. for CC10 and 24
>
> >What day did you take possession of your function rooms at the
> >hotel? What day/time did your dealers set up?What day/time did your
> >dealers tare down?
>
> Thursday for CC10. IRRC, we got CC24’s space on Wednesday evening.
>
> >What time did your exhibits rooms set up?
>
> For 10 and 24 on Friday morning. Due to arrival times of attendees
> you always will have things drifting in throughout the day.
>
> >What day/time did you start tearing down
>
> Monday at about 10 or so
>
> >How early did your consuite open?
>
> Thursday evening.
>
> >Programming during the masquerades, yes/no?
>
> Absolutely nothing scheduled against the masquerades or the Future
> Fashion Show/Single Pattern. The latter could be scheduled during the
> Friday Night Social PROVIDED that it is in the same room as the
> Social and announced as a feature of the Social.
>
> >Tours, better on one day? or on either end of the regular convention weekend?
>
> Either side (actually both sides) work well so long as you announce
> well in advance.
>
> Pierre
>
> >More to come
>
> International Costumers’ Guild Archivist
>
> http://www.costume.org/gallery2/main.php
>
> “Those Who Fail to Learn History
> Are Doomed to Repeat It;
> Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly –
> Why They Are Simply Doomed.”
>
> Achemdro’hm
> “The Illusion of Historical Fact”
> — C. Y. 4971
>
> Andromeda
>

I’m trying to reassure my brother, so excuse the obvious. Next year I’m
bringing my niece to costume con. She’s a costume diva and loves it when
she gets new outfits, so we designed an entry for her. My mom will also be
attending to help herd her. My brother is worried, though, about her online
presence. He doesn’t really want her name attached to her face widely
online before she’s graduated kindergarten (understandable, imo). I’ve told
him to google all my pictures and see how they’re all labeled with “Aurora
Celeste” and not my real name, but he’s worried that for some reason her
legal name will need to be used because he signed a minor release form in
that name. I told him the announcer’s form is a totally separate form and
he shouldn’t be worried. Anyway, long story short, is there any possibility
that I’m wrong and a reason her legal name would need to be used either by
the announcer, on an entrant list, or in a gallery after the show? Also, is
there any way to find out if there will be additional forms at the con that
would need to be signed ahead of time like there was with Penny this year?

Thanks,

Aurora

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not unless we force trixyloup wolf to start entering as Silvie Lauren

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— On Wed, 6/29/11, Aurora Celeste <auroraceleste@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Aurora Celeste <auroraceleste@gmail.com>
Subject: [runacc] Names on Photographs, etc
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 29, 2011, 12:19 AM

I’m trying to reassure my brother, so excuse the obvious. Next year I’m
bringing my niece to costume con. She’s a costume diva and loves it when
she gets new outfits, so we designed an entry for her. My mom will also be
attending to help herd her. My brother is worried, though, about her online
presence. He doesn’t really want her name attached to her face widely
online before she’s graduated kindergarten (understandable, imo). I’ve told
him to google all my pictures and see how they’re all labeled with “Aurora
Celeste” and not my real name, but he’s worried that for some reason her
legal name will need to be used because he signed a minor release form in
that name. I told him the announcer’s form is a totally separate form and
he shouldn’t be worried. Anyway, long story short, is there any possibility
that I’m wrong and a reason her legal name would need to be used either by
the announcer, on an entrant list, or in a gallery after the show? Also, is
there any way to find out if there will be additional forms at the con that
would need to be signed ahead of time like there was with Penny this year?

Thanks,

Aurora

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As far as the ICGallery is concerned:
We frequently label photos with aliases (con names) on the Gallery. If known to us, we like to put the person’s real name in the keywords (non-visible) so folks who know them by that name can find them.

Or vice-versa for some folks. We also put alternate names (maiden name, previous married names, etc.) for some folks as well.

If someone were to specifically request to be “labelled” a certain way, we can absolutely accomodate that.

Obviously I can’t speak for other websites.

Nora

— On Tue, 6/28/11, Aurora Celeste <auroraceleste@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Aurora Celeste <auroraceleste@gmail.com>
Subject: [runacc] Names on Photographs, etc
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 11:19 PM

I’m trying to reassure my brother, so excuse the obvious.  Next year I’m
bringing my niece to costume con.  She’s a costume diva and loves it when
she gets new outfits, so we designed an entry for her.  My mom will also be
attending to help herd her.  My brother is worried, though, about her online
presence.  He doesn’t really want her name attached to her face widely
online before she’s graduated kindergarten (understandable, imo).  I’ve told
him to google all my pictures and see how they’re all labeled with “Aurora
Celeste” and not my real name, but he’s worried that for some reason her
legal name will need to be used because he signed a minor release form in
that name.  I told him the announcer’s form is a totally separate form and
he shouldn’t be worried.  Anyway, long story short, is there any possibility
that I’m wrong and a reason her legal name would need to be used either by
the announcer, on an entrant list, or in a gallery after the show?  Also, is
there any way to find out if there will be additional forms at the con that
would need to be signed ahead of time like there was with Penny this year?

Thanks,

Aurora

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