Not sure if any of you have run into this one yet on other boards.
CC-26 has ( and I pray all CC’s have not) been given a nickname.
for it is no longer costume-con,
it’s now presentation-con

great.

thank you judges and thank you space girls ( tho not the girls fault)

anymore thought’s on changing that panel name to
masquerade judges?

I think it just needs to happen

you know, at some point, the service mark holder will be obliged to TELL committees what to call judges and what to tell them etc… just to protect the mark, by changing the constitution to reflect all these things we’ve been talking about.

especially if each year is like starting over, which seems to have happened this past year.

Gravely MacCabre
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Hi, all!

If you’re receiving this message, you’re still listed as a part of the
ICG Guidelines committee or you are on the RunaCC mailing list. I am
cross-posting this one message as an invitation for you to join the
Guidelines discussion if you desire, because the discussion is
important and your participation would be very much appreciated!

It’s pretty clear to me from the conversations over the last week that
we need to do what we should have done the last time this stuff came
up. As I recall, there were two major documents still to be written
and presented to the ICG BOD: The Costumer’s Bill of Rights and the
Masquerade Safety Guidelines.

I suspect the judging and competition issues being raised on the D
list come under the former heading. While I know both of these
documents need attention (especially in light of another costumer
heading off the wrong edge of the stage but also from my
own…ahem…history onstage), it sounds to me like we should be
constructing the judging/entrant document first.

If you are still on the list but you are not interested in being a
part of this conversation, you are certainly welcome to stay. Would
those on the list who plan to participate in this process please
“raise your hands” and let me and Andy know you’re still here and
interested in the process? If you’re not already on the Guidelines
list, I’ll send you an invite as soon as I know you need one.

I’d really like to strike while the iron is hot!

Thanks!

Betsy Marks Delaney
Co-Chair, the ICG Guidelines Committee

Betsy —

Raising my hand. I am still on runacc and have been participating in the discussion on ICG-D. However, I am not on the Guidelines list and am not welcome on it because I expressed my belief that the ICG ought not to endorse guidelines.

Byron

—– Original Message —–
From: Betsy Delaney<mailto:aramintamd@gmail.com>
To: icg-guidelines@yahoogroups.com<mailto:icg-guidelines@yahoogroups.com> ; runacc@yahoogroups.com<mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 11:01 AM
Subject: [runacc] The Judging conversations on both RunaCC and ICG-D

Hi, all!

If you’re receiving this message, you’re still listed as a part of the
ICG Guidelines committee or you are on the RunaCC mailing list. I am
cross-posting this one message as an invitation for you to join the
Guidelines discussion if you desire, because the discussion is
important and your participation would be very much appreciated!

It’s pretty clear to me from the conversations over the last week that
we need to do what we should have done the last time this stuff came
up. As I recall, there were two major documents still to be written
and presented to the ICG BOD: The Costumer’s Bill of Rights and the
Masquerade Safety Guidelines.

I suspect the judging and competition issues being raised on the D
list come under the former heading. While I know both of these
documents need attention (especially in light of another costumer
heading off the wrong edge of the stage but also from my
own…ahem…history onstage), it sounds to me like we should be
constructing the judging/entrant document first.

If you are still on the list but you are not interested in being a
part of this conversation, you are certainly welcome to stay. Would
those on the list who plan to participate in this process please
“raise your hands” and let me and Andy know you’re still here and
interested in the process? If you’re not already on the Guidelines
list, I’ll send you an invite as soon as I know you need one.

I’d really like to strike while the iron is hot!

Thanks!

Betsy Marks Delaney
Co-Chair, the ICG Guidelines Committee

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Byron,

If you feel that way, it’s your choice, but I don’t think either Andy
or I ever said you weren’t welcome on the Guidelines list.

It’s up to you, of course. I’d like to see if we can move some of this
discussion there, and form some sort of summary document that we can
submit for comment. I don’t expect we will be able to cover all bases,
but providing a structure of some form that helps define what
apparently needs to be outlined as appropriate judging behavior and
appropriate masquerade instruction seems to be a beneficial thing.
Like the pirates say – it’s a guideline, not a law.

Let me know!

Cheers,

-b

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Byron Connell <bpconnell@verizon.net> wrote:
> Betsy —
>
> Raising my hand. I am still on runacc and have been participating in the
> discussion on ICG-D. However, I am not on the Guidelines list and am not
> welcome on it because I expressed my belief that the ICG ought not to
> endorse guidelines.
>
> Byron

Betsy Delaney wrote:

> Byron,
>
> If you feel that way, it’s your choice, but I don’t think either Andy
> or I ever said you weren’t welcome on the Guidelines list.

Actually, I said that.

I feel that a member who supports abolishing the guidelines is at odds
with the mission of the committee.

andy

Ok, I remember now. And I think I tend to agree, Andy.

Byron, if you still feel this way, I will have to say that Andy is
right as he’s stated below.

If you feel differently now and can find some value in such a
document, you are certainly welcome to join and contribute. I won’t
object.

I’ve drafted up a VERY rough set of guidelines that can fall under the
heading of a Costumer’s Bill of Rights and Responsibilities, which I’m
going to toss in Andy’s direction first, then at the Guidelines list.

I’m in the process of getting my office ready to move, so I’m trying
to get us to a point where we can start the discussion so that I can
get work stuff done while still moving us forward, and as I said
anyone not already on the Guidelines list who wants to be a part of
the process is welcome to join.

Thanks!

Betsy

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:52 PM, Andrew Trembley <attrembl@bovil.com> wrote:
> Betsy Delaney wrote:
>> Byron,
>>
>> If you feel that way, it’s your choice, but I don’t think either Andy
>> or I ever said you weren’t welcome on the Guidelines list.
>
> Actually, I said that.
>
> I feel that a member who supports abolishing the guidelines is at odds
> with the mission of the committee.
>
> andy

While I am in somewhat agreement with Byron, I think that I should
probably be in on this discussion if for no other reason than to see
that you don’t come up with anything too egregious 😀

Marty

Betsy Delaney wrote:

>
> Hi, all!
>
> If you’re receiving this message, you’re still listed as a part of the
> ICG Guidelines committee or you are on the RunaCC mailing list. I am
> cross-posting this one message as an invitation for you to join the
> Guidelines discussion if you desire, because the discussion is
> important and your participation would be very much appreciated!
>
> It’s pretty clear to me from the conversations over the last week that
> we need to do what we should have done the last time this stuff came
> up. As I recall, there were two major documents still to be written
> and presented to the ICG BOD: The Costumer’s Bill of Rights and the
> Masquerade Safety Guidelines.
>
> I suspect the judging and competition issues being raised on the D
> list come under the former heading. While I know both of these
> documents need attention (especially in light of another costumer
> heading off the wrong edge of the stage but also from my
> own…ahem…history onstage), it sounds to me like we should be
> constructing the judging/entrant document first.
>
> If you are still on the list but you are not interested in being a
> part of this conversation, you are certainly welcome to stay. Would
> those on the list who plan to participate in this process please
> “raise your hands” and let me and Andy know you’re still here and
> interested in the process? If you’re not already on the Guidelines
> list, I’ll send you an invite as soon as I know you need one.
>
> I’d really like to strike while the iron is hot!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Betsy Marks Delaney
> Co-Chair, the ICG Guidelines Committee
>
>
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>
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OK, I’ve been promising to tell you how things imploded at CC26 for the
F&SF masquerade, especially with regards to our AV tech.

At this point, it’s far enough behind me that I think I can simply lay
out the sequence of events to explain; I’ll try not to make lots of excuses.

This is going to be a long post.

First off — the masquerade database transfer glitch has to be one of my
most embarrassing moments ever as a programmer.

We’d been moving data back and forth from our other web databases
without difficulty for months.
We’ve successfully run a local MS-Access version of the masq. database
(running on a laptop) to organize masquerades for the last 3 years,
getting it ready for Costume-Con. It’s been successfully used for 50
entry/100+ person masquerades. Shelley Monson had taken the latest
version home and optimized it further. The web db was specifically
designed to match the PC version.

We then hit two major glitches onsite. The first was that the import
tools (which we’d been using successfully for other databases) refused
to recognize two of the fields from the web db properly. I did
eventually solve this problem on Saturday, and had started printing from
the new table when I had to go teach a stage workshop. That was one of
the only two items I was teaching at CC26, and one I’d specifically
requested. It also cost me an hour of time.

The second glitch was that Shelley’s laptop decided it didn’t want to
talk to any other machine we owned (or to any of our USB floppies, etc),
so I didn’t have the final optimized version of the script templates,
and had to try to recreate them on the fly. Hence the missing fields.

Not trying the db transfer earlier was a stupid, stupid mistake on my
part. I only explain in so much detail so you’ll understand that I
didn’t have reason to expect problems.

Second… a minor note about staffing in general.

Andy has mentioned the difficulty we had finding judges for the
Historical, this was a general problem.
The Bay Area now has 4 or 5 largish “classic” fan-run conventions
(Further Confusion, PantheaCon, Baycon, DundraCon and Silicon) plus
FanimeCon and others.
Baycon, unfortunately, has never figured out how to gracefully share
resources. They also have an insanely generous entitlement system for
their volunteers (free memberships, room allowances, staff feed) which
makes life difficult for visiting conventions that can’t afford those
entitlements. We were very careful not to poach any of their department
heads, but in October we learned their executive had essentially
forbidden any of their staff to work on Costume-Con.

We worked with Further Confusion and other local groups and seemed to
have covered things fairly well, but this was one of the reasons we were
short-staffed. We also had some volunteers change their mind at the last
minute (like the original consuite crew).

Third… what we had planned for our tech…

We knew we were going to be lean on tech staff, since we no longer have
anything like TechnoFandom in the BayArea.
When Demicon moved back to the first weekend of May, we lost the Iowa
crew, who had planned to help us run our tech. I started looking in
We also had to support two stages.
This is one of the reasons the lighting design for the main stage was so
simple; I also wanted the focus to be on the costumes rather than stage
technical effects. (Ironic, given the complaints about perfomance
trumping costuming at CC26).
The tech crew was one of the few places where we decided to comp
memberships in advance, by way of incentive. As we were coming into the
week before the convention, we had a tech crew of 10 people, plus Smash
(who was also our equipment provider) and DJ Jean. Jean had to work on
Saturday, but was scheduled to run the mix on Friday night and at the
Fashion Show on Sunday. All masquerade entry music was going to be
ripped onto a laptop to make it simple to control at the show. It was
going to be tight, but I’ve seen this same group handle shows like ours
just fine.

Fourth and final: how it all fell apart beginning on Wednesday.

On Wednesday, two things happened.
1) 6 of our tech crew volunteers decided they weren’t going to do it
after all. No particular reason, they just decided to flake on us
2) Smash’s management tried to rescind his vacation for the weekend. He
gave them Thursday, but to keep Friday through Monday he had to agree to
be on call all weekend.

Smash was our equipment supplier, so that delayed our tech move-in by 24
hours. When he got to his warehouse on Thursday night, he discovered the
$50k video switcher that was in the design for the runway stage had been
stolen. That meant he had to redesign the video system for that show on
the spot. That cost us more setup time.

Friday’s AV requirements were fairly simple, so it went well (we now
know, though, that the ballroom is too small for a band with a trap
set). Since DJ Jean was going to be running sound on Sunday, she left
her DJ box on the stage to be moved downstairs later. This proved to be
critical on Saturday.

One major source of our problems was that having the crew cut down to
less than half its size meant we had no one to rip the soundtracks to a
laptop and sort them out, so we were going to have to use the CDs as
provided. There were three CD decks in the AV booth; Jean had two in her
DJ box (that’s 5 total).

During the course of tech rehearsals, one after another of the
contestant CDs refused to play in the main booth decks. They eventually
realized they had two more in Jean’s equipment, and got them to work
there (remember, she was at work on Saturday). They also figured during
the show it would be wiser to have the person who owned that equipment
run it during the show itself. This is why “the sound person wasn’t
present during rehearsals”… she wasn’t supposed to be the sound
person. It also put sound and lights in two different parts of the room,
which (even if they hadn’t been late coming off the press) the scripts
weren’t designed for. It’s also why we ended up with a DJ on the corner
of the stage; it wasn’t part of the original design at all.

Now — a word about the CD problems. 7 of the 9 gross miscues involved
CDs with more than one track, when the rules specifically called for a
CD with a single track. Some of these were albums where the contestants
asked for track X of Y (or in one case, start at 0:55 of track X and
play until 1:47). Others were sets of multiple short tracks (10
six-second tracks, for instance), where they wanted all of them played.
This could have been handled if we had the manpower to rip the tracks
as we’d planned. One of the other miscues was due to the holographic
angel guy storming the tech booth because they’d played track 1 instead
of 14, and they missed cues while they were fending him off. We also
had one of Jean’s two decks jam. By the end of the night we were on the
last of those 5 decks.

Shelley and Eleanor had an extra 24 hours, so they used Ellie’s laptop
to rip the entry tracks and burned one single CD with one track per
entry; I could also warn them to burn it at low speed which dramatically
reduces the risk of misplay in an audio teck.

That’s pretty much it.

I can also tell you that folks in the audience who were not, like those
of us on this list, painfully aware of what was obviously not working
right, really enjoyed the show.

I’m going to hit “send” before I go back and try to second-guess myself
on this post.

Kevin

Locking the barn door after the horse has been stolen:

I offer, for any Costume-Con tech crew finding itself in such need
again, my services as a roving sound editor.

I don’t travel without my laptop and have been working with sound
editing for decades now (starting with tape cassettes and patch
cords). Sound and video editing are now part of my current job
description.

I recognize that there are other people on list list who are also very
qualified, but I suspect they will also be busy doing other things
during their CCs, and so far as I know I am not committed to any of
the concoms for the foreseeable future. (If I’m wrong about this,
better tell me NOW!) Please consider this an offer of assistance and
not an encroachment of territory.

And, if your tech/sound crew winds up in a pinch again (which we will
all knock wood NOW not to happen), please ask someone to find me.
Seriously! It kills me to know I could have helped somewhere and that
I wasn’t asked.

I understand from Judy’s recent posting on the CC LJ community that
CC27 is asking for either .wav or .mp3 files for masquerade sound. I
am willing to make myself available to help any entry who can provide
me with a disk or tape in advance of or at the con. If asked, I will
also bring additional spare equipment as a safeguard.

Terribly sorry not to have known these details at-con. I was wandering
around Saturday looking for things to do.

Betsy

Betsy –
Thank you for the offer, but CC-27 will have a dedicated tech with
equipment to handle the sound for anyone who does not come prepared,
including access to a “library” of possible masquerade music. Like you,
I too travel with a laptop with sound editing software and not have the
“masquerade music DVD” loaded on the machine in the form of mp3 files.
(The plan for CC-27 is to load everyone’s masquerade music/sounds into
an I-tunes library arranged in run order, and yes, we’ll have CD back-up
and a spare laptop at the sound desk just in case.) BTW, my sound
editing experience goes back to the late 50’s editing 1/4″ open reel
tapes with a razor blade, a yard stick, and “scotch” tape t o produce
segues. Like Betsy, if I’m not otherwise engaged I’m happy to offer the
same services when I’m at a con.

Marty

Betsy Delaney wrote:

>
> Locking the barn door after the horse has been stolen:
>
> I offer, for any Costume-Con tech crew finding itself in such need
> again, my services as a roving sound editor.
>
> I don’t travel without my laptop and have been working with sound
> editing for decades now (starting with tape cassettes and patch
> cords). Sound and video editing are now part of my current job
> description.
>
> I recognize that there are other people on list list who are also very
> qualified, but I suspect they will also be busy doing other things
> during their CCs, and so far as I know I am not committed to any of
> the concoms for the foreseeable future. (If I’m wrong about this,
> better tell me NOW!) Please consider this an offer of assistance and
> not an encroachment of territory.
>
> And, if your tech/sound crew winds up in a pinch again (which we will
> all knock wood NOW not to happen), please ask someone to find me.
> Seriously! It kills me to know I could have helped somewhere and that
> I wasn’t asked.
>
> I understand from Judy’s recent posting on the CC LJ community that
> CC27 is asking for either .wav or .mp3 files for masquerade sound. I
> am willing to make myself available to help any entry who can provide
> me with a disk or tape in advance of or at the con. If asked, I will
> also bring additional spare equipment as a safeguard.
>
> Terribly sorry not to have known these details at-con. I was wandering
> around Saturday looking for things to do.
>
> Betsy
>
>
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The subject of audio editing is something that comes up quite
frequently. People always have recommendations of things they used,
both freeware and licensed. The pros and cons of each, how
easy/difficult to use, what you can and cannot do. For my audio at
CC24, I used a trial version of something, I think it was an Adobe
product. I finally got what I wanted but I spent far too much time on
the learning curve for one minute of audio. Also, the audio file I
exported was recorded too quitely to be used and I had to get the MP3
version I had on my laptop at the con.

When I needed audio for a masquerade in April, I again started looking
for something use, as I’d never really found something I liked. Then
I thought, what about Windows Movie Maker. I’d used it recently for
the first time to make some photo slide shows with sound. I knew I
could use it to simply mix audio, trim clips, fade in, fade out, etc.
I just wasn’t sure about putting it into a .MOV file. To my surprise,
having only audio in the project, it kept it in an audio format
(either WMA or WAV, I don’t remember), and didn’t convert it into a
movie.

Anyone with Windows XP/Vista has Windows Movie Maker and has probably
never used it, as its for video and many/most people don’t do video, I
hadn’t for years. Despite being designed for simple movie editing, it
does everything for audio that probably 99% of masquerade entries
need. It’s very simple to use. It imports MP3, which is how most
people will have their music anyway. If they want a voice over, they
just need a microphone and they can record it in Windows Sound
Recorder as a WAV.

My point is that audio is a challenge for many costumers which then
becomes problems for tech. The tools are readily available, free and
simple to use. We really just need more education using the KISS
method.

Michael

Sounds like a panel/workshop to me.

Note my previous mention of availability…….

Cheers,

-b

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Bruno <bruno@soulmasque.com> wrote:

> My point is that audio is a challenge for many costumers which then
> becomes problems for tech. The tools are readily available, free and
> simple to use. We really just need more education using the KISS
> method.
>
> Michael

In a message dated 6/19/2008 11:01:32 AM Central Daylight Time,
aramintamd@gmail.com writes:

> Locking the barn door after the horse has been stolen:
>
> I offer, for any Costume-Con tech crew finding itself in such need
> again, my services as a roving sound editor.
>
>
>
>
>

You fool! I thought I saw you at the last Volunteers 12-Step Meeting! ;P

Seriously, if you want to help out at CC28, I will get you in contact with
our Sound Jedi.

Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Wouldn’t have offered if I didn’t know what I was getting into! 😎

Cheers,

-b

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 1:29 PM, <osierhenry@cs.com> wrote:
> In a message dated 6/19/2008 11:01:32 AM Central Daylight Time,
>
> aramintamd@gmail.com writes:
>> Locking the barn door after the horse has been stolen:
>>
>> I offer, for any Costume-Con tech crew finding itself in such need
>> again, my services as a roving sound editor.

In a message dated 6/19/2008 12:21:23 PM Central Daylight Time,
aramintamd@gmail.com writes:

> Sounds like a panel/workshop to me.
>
> Note my previous mention of availability…….
>
>
>
>
>

I forwarded that to my Programming Monkee.

Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I’ve actually suggested this as a potential program topic for both
Westercon and Worldcon this year.

It’s not only the “how do I assemble the audio” question, but “how do I
make the CD so it will actually work in almost any player” question.

Kevin

>
>

Yep! Agreed!!!

Can even give the basics (what you REALLY need to know about
Goldwave/Moviemaker/whatever to edit your sound) AND how to rip music
for editing.

Cheers,

-b

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Kevin Roche, CC26 Convention Chair
<chair@cc26.org> wrote:

> I’ve actually suggested this as a potential program topic for both
> Westercon and Worldcon this year.
>
> It’s not only the “how do I assemble the audio” question, but “how do I
> make the CD so it will actually work in almost any player” question.
>
> Kevin

In a message dated 6/19/2008 1:26:27 PM Central Daylight Time,
aramintamd@gmail.com writes:

> Yep! Agreed!!!
>
> Can even give the basics (what you REALLY need to know about
> Goldwave/Moviemaker/whatever to edit your sound) AND how to rip music
> for editing.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -b
>
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Kevin Roche, CC26 Convention Chair
> <chair@cc26.org> wrote:
> >I’ve actually suggested this as a potential program topic for both
> >Westercon and Worldcon this year.
> >
> >It’s not only the “how do I assemble the audio” question, but “how do I
> >make the CD so it will actually work in almost any player” question.
> >
> >Kevin
>
>
>
>
>
>

Ok, Betsy, you can plan to be at that panel as CC28! Kevin, do you want in on
this?

Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Which should be recorded and made available on the ICG Web site.

We should do that with a lot of the costuming/stagecraft type of panels/workshops.

Byron

—– Original Message —–
From: Betsy Delaney<mailto:aramintamd@gmail.com>
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com<mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [runacc] Presentation audio [was Saturday’s Elephant]

Sounds like a panel/workshop to me.

Note my previous mention of availability…….

Cheers,

-b

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Bruno <bruno@soulmasque.com<mailto:bruno@soulmasque.com>> wrote:

> My point is that audio is a challenge for many costumers which then
> becomes problems for tech. The tools are readily available, free and
> simple to use. We really just need more education using the KISS
> method.
>
> Michael

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I know that one of the challenges in running Costume-Con is getting the
word out without going broke.

If we want to have a larger West Coast contingent attending more
easterly conventions (with, I’ll admit, an eye to getting them engaged
and interested in making the effort to bid for future CCs), we need to
keep getting info to them at other conventions and events out here.

Andy and I spent buckets of money travelling to promote CC26, but,
equally importantly, a good number of folk from the Midwest and Eastern
US very kindly helped by getting our literature out at lots of events we
couldn’t attend.

I’d like to return the favor.

If you send me stuff, I’ll put it out. We’ll be at Westercon, Worldcon,
Silicon and perhaps Yaoicon this year, plus some assorted BAERS, PEERS,
GBACG and SCA events. I’d like to keep the left coasters excited enough
that it doesn’t take another 14 years to get it back here.

I also think this is another way we can use this list effectively, to
help keep future Costume-Cons vital and fresh. If we can save some of
our personal travel money to go to the conventions we want to attend,
and help each others’ committees distribute info, it will be easier to
promote the conventions without digging quite so deeply into our
personal costuming budget. 🙂

Kevin

Henry –
I worked my way through college first at a commercial radio station and
then at a speech & hearing clinic. I did sound for a rock band and
studio engineered a jazz album. At one of the worldcons in the 1980’s I
did the sound for four of the six top winners. Can I play too?

^M^

osierhenry@cs.com wrote:

>
> In a message dated 6/19/2008 1:26:27 PM Central Daylight Time,
> aramintamd@gmail.com <mailto:aramintamd%40gmail.com> writes:
> > Yep! Agreed!!!
> >
> > Can even give the basics (what you REALLY need to know about
> > Goldwave/Moviemaker/whatever to edit your sound) AND how to rip music
> > for editing.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > -b
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Kevin Roche, CC26 Convention Chair
> > <chair@cc26.org <mailto:chair%40cc26.org>> wrote:
> > >I’ve actually suggested this as a potential program topic for both
> > >Westercon and Worldcon this year.
> > >
> > >It’s not only the “how do I assemble the audio” question, but “how do I
> > >make the CD so it will actually work in almost any player” question.
> > >
> > >Kevin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Ok, Betsy, you can plan to be at that panel as CC28! Kevin, do you
> want in on
> this?
>
> Henry
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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>
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>

Wow. Talk about a series of unfortunate events. I understand the shiny guy
being upset, but that was completely inappropriate to complain while the
show was still going on, impacting another performer’s presentation.

And yes, after watching the video, the audience certainly was not aware of
the drama backstage, but I’m sure they were aware they seemed to be a slew
of awkward moments.

Thanks for the other side of the story.

Bruce

This is very smart. I was thinking, “Boy, there’s gotta be a way to more or
less prevent people coming to Tech with a CD and saying ‘Play this many
seconds of this track and…..'”. This would force people to make more
precisely mixed CDs. Good idea.

> —–Original Message—–
> From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Betsy Delaney
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:01 AM
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [runacc] Saturday’s Elephant
>
>
> I understand from Judy’s recent posting on the CC LJ community that
> CC27 is asking for either .wav or .mp3 files for masquerade sound. I
> am willing to make myself available to help any entry who can provide
> me with a disk or tape in advance of or at the con. If asked, I will
> also bring additional spare equipment as a safeguard.
>
>
> Betsy

I thought we were well past that with cassettes.

It needs to be in the rules and published pre-event, so that when they DO show up with stuff like that, you have the right to say no.
If you have the tech to fix it and deal with it for them, that’s great, awesome, and awfully nice, but why oh why are we going over what I at least thought was fixed 20 years ago.
just because the technology has changed, doesn’t mean the stoopidity of giving anyone your music in anyway that has any degree of possible screw up is allowable

Gravely MacCabre

—– Original Message —-
From: Bruce & Nora Mai <casamai@sbcglobal.net>
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:08:43 PM
Subject: [runacc] CC27 audio (was Saturday’s elephant)

This is very smart. I was thinking, “Boy, there’s gotta be a way to more or
less prevent people coming to Tech with a CD and saying ‘Play this many
seconds of this track and…..'”. This would force people to make more
precisely mixed CDs. Good idea.

> —–Original Message—–
> From: runacc@yahoogroups. com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
> Betsy Delaney
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:01 AM
> To: runacc@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [runacc] Saturday’s Elephant
>
>
> I understand from Judy’s recent posting on the CC LJ community that
> CC27 is asking for either .wav or .mp3 files for masquerade sound. I
> am willing to make myself available to help any entry who can provide
> me with a disk or tape in advance of or at the con. If asked, I will
> also bring additional spare equipment as a safeguard.
>
>
> Betsy

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

the tech/sound question reminded me of this which will seem like an old man Andy Rooney rant, but I don’t care.

What the hell is up with showing me your documentation ON your lap top, or no lie, on your cell phone .

If I can’t hold it and take it to judges chambers with me, I reserve the right to ignore it.

I’m just sayin is all…….

Gravely MacCabre
http://www.castleblood.com
http://www.midnightmonsterhop.com
http://www.myspace.com/thecastleblood
http://www.myspace.com/midnightmonsterhop
clip samples at
http://www.veoh.com/channels/castleblood

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Yeah – every time we need to do a complicated mix (not just copying x
minutes of y) I have to re-invent the wheel, because I can never
remember what I did the last time. It doesn’t help that the program
you used last time now doesn’t work because of some computer system
update or hiccup….

We usually get it OK, though. One time, the Archon sound guy (Yay,
Mike!!) saved us – we’d put together a mix of several things – sound
effects from one website, music downloaded from another, voice over,
etc. etc. I got it all pasted together relatively seamlessly, except
for the last bit. No matter what I tried, it wouldn’t copy on to the
end of the finished mix. So, we took the mostly finished mix and the
extra bit on separate CD’s, and Mike was able to mix it together for
the presentation. I still don’t know what was up with that….

So, yes, need a panel for this….

Sandy

At 01:25 PM 6/19/2008, you wrote:

>Yep! Agreed!!!
>
>Can even give the basics (what you REALLY need to know about
>Goldwave/Moviemaker/whatever to edit your sound) AND how to rip music
>for editing.
>
>Cheers,
>
>-b
>
>On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Kevin Roche, CC26 Convention Chair
><<mailto:chair%40cc26.org>chair@cc26.org> wrote:
> > I’ve actually suggested this as a potential program topic for both
> > Westercon and Worldcon this year.
> >
> > It’s not only the “how do I assemble the audio” question, but “how do I
> > make the CD so it will actually work in almost any player” question.
> >
> > Kevin
>

“Those Who Fail To Learn History
Are Doomed to Repeat It;
Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly —
Why They Are Simply Doomed.

Achemdro’hm
“The Illusion of Historical Fact”
— C.Y. 4971

Andromeda

I agree with you, but really? No way. Cell phone???

Geeze!

Do we need to tell people paper is best? Amazing! Used to be we just
had to say copies of book covers, not the whole book.

Welcome to the 21st Century…

-b

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:44 PM, Gravely MacCabre <gravelymac@yahoo.com> wrote:
> the tech/sound question reminded me of this which will seem like an old man
> Andy Rooney rant, but I don’t care.
>
> What the hell is up with showing me your documentation ON your lap top, or
> no lie, on your cell phone .
>
> If I can’t hold it and take it to judges chambers with me, I reserve the
> right to ignore it.
>
> I’m just sayin is all…….
>
> Gravely MacCabre
> http://www.castleblood.com
> http://www.midnightmonsterhop.com
> http://www.myspace.com/thecastleblood
> http://www.myspace.com/midnightmonsterhop
> clip samples at
> http://www.veoh.com/channels/castleblood

I agree with you. I haven’t handed in a recorded piece of music in
well over 15 years that wasn’t just cut down, but edited to end at :55
for insurance, with at least two extras just in case. There are plenty
of people who either can’t be bothered or are so technologically
challenged they don’t even know they should be asking for help.

The tools are a heck of a lot better than they were even 10 years ago,
though. I still remember the recording session for Agalla (CC11).
Being able to set up shop in a corner of the con with a laptop and a
CD is just too cool.

After doing the sound design for three shows, I’ve taken my editing
experience a step and a half further and I’m playing with Adobe
Premiere now. Doing well enough da boss is willing to trust me to edit
and produce pieces for distribution and advertising. I feel like a kid
in a candy shop.

-b

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:41 PM, Gravely MacCabre <gravelymac@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I thought we were well past that with cassettes.

Mainly because people only pay half of their attention to what is being
said, or don’t think something applies to them. Also, you’ll probably still
have some people new to the process, despite publishing the policy ahead of
time, or don’t have the skills, but at least you can point to the policy and
say, “Did you see this?”

Bruce

> —–Original Message—–
> From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Gravely MacCabre
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:42 PM
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [runacc] CC27 audio (was Saturday’s elephant)
>

> why oh why are we going over what I at least thought was fixed 20
> years ago.
> just because the technology has changed, doesn’t mean the stoopidity of

giving

> anyone your music in anyway that has any degree of possible screw up is

allowable

>
> Gravely MacCabre
>
>
>
>
>
> —– Original Message —-
> From: Bruce & Nora Mai <casamai@sbcglobal.net>
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:08:43 PM
> Subject: [runacc] CC27 audio (was Saturday’s elephant)
>
>
> This is very smart. I was thinking, “Boy, there’s gotta be a way to more

or

> less prevent people coming to Tech with a CD and saying ‘Play this many
> seconds of this track and…..'”. This would force people to make more
> precisely mixed CDs. Good idea.
>
> > —–Original Message—–
> > From: runacc@yahoogroups. com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf
> Of
> > Betsy Delaney
> > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:01 AM
> > To: runacc@yahoogroups. com
> > Subject: Re: [runacc] Saturday’s Elephant
> >
> >
> > I understand from Judy’s recent posting on the CC LJ community that
> > CC27 is asking for either .wav or .mp3 files for masquerade sound. I
> > am willing to make myself available to help any entry who can provide
> > me with a disk or tape in advance of or at the con. If asked, I will
> > also bring additional spare equipment as a safeguard.
> >
> >
> > Betsy
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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>

You gotta be kidding me? Is this showing up at the anime cons?

This is just plain laziness. Again, sounds like a rule needs to be stated
clearly ahead of time.

Bruce

> —–Original Message—–
> From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Gravely MacCabre
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:44 PM
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [runacc] weird crap in the new world order.
>
> the tech/sound question reminded me of this which will seem like an old

man Andy

> Rooney rant, but I don’t care.
>
> What the hell is up with showing me your documentation ON your lap top, or

no lie,

> on your cell phone .
>
> If I can’t hold it and take it to judges chambers with me, I reserve the

right to ignore

> it.
>
> I’m just sayin is all…….
>
> Gravely MacCabre
> http://www.castleblood.com
> http://www.midnightmonsterhop.com
> http://www.myspace.com/thecastleblood
> http://www.myspace.com/midnightmonsterhop
> clip samples at
> http://www.veoh.com/channels/castleblood
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ————————————
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/Yahoo!

Groups

> Links
>
>
>

OMG that’s funny! Next time I’m doing my documentation in Power
Point!! (which I hate, btw)

Seriously though, I think you’re totally within your rights to refuse
it. What are they going to do if you ask for multiple copies for
multiple judges? Bring more cell phones?

Nora
— In runacc@yahoogroups.com, Gravely MacCabre <gravelymac@…>
wrote:

> the tech/sound question reminded me of this which will seem like an

old man Andy Rooney rant, but I don’t care.

>
> What the hell is up with showing me your documentation ON your lap

top, or no lie, on your cell phone .

>
> If I can’t hold it and take it to judges chambers with me, I

reserve the right to ignore it.

>
> I’m just sayin is all…….
>
> Gravely MacCabre
> http://www.castleblood.com
> http://www.midnightmonsterhop.com
> http://www.myspace.com/thecastleblood
> http://www.myspace.com/midnightmonsterhop
> clip samples at
> http://www.veoh.com/channels/castleblood
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

In a message dated 6/19/2008 7:59:42 PM Central Daylight Time, chair@cc26.org
writes:

> If you send me stuff, I’ll put it out. We’ll be at Westercon, Worldcon,
> Silicon and perhaps Yaoicon this year, plus some assorted BAERS, PEERS,
> GBACG and SCA events. I’d like to keep the left coasters excited enough
> that it doesn’t take another 14 years to get it back here.

Kevin,
I can e-mail you files in PDF format. Let me know which e-mail address
you want them sent to.
Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

In a message dated 6/19/2008 9:44:23 PM Central Daylight Time,
MartinGear@comcast.net writes:

> Henry –
> I worked my way through college first at a commercial radio station and
> then at a speech &hearing clinic. I did sound for a rock band and
> studio engineered a jazz album. At one of the worldcons in the 1980’s I
> did the sound for four of the six top winners. Can I play too?
>
>
>

Certainly, Marty!

Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

In a message dated 6/19/2008 10:09:16 PM Central Daylight Time,
casamai@sbcglobal.net writes:

> This is very smart. I was thinking, “Boy, there’s gotta be a way to more or
> less prevent people coming to Tech with a CD and saying ‘Play this many
> seconds of this track and…..'”. This would force people to make more
> precisely mixed CDs. Good idea.
>
> >—–Original Message—–
> >From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> >Betsy Delaney
> >Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:01 AM
> >To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [runacc] Saturday’s Elephant
> >
> >
> >I understand from Judy’s recent posting on the CC LJ community that
> >CC27 is asking for either .wav or .mp3 files for masquerade sound. I
> >am willing to make myself available to help any entry who can provide
> >me with a disk or tape in advance of or at the con. If asked, I will
> >also bring additional spare equipment as a safeguard.
>
>
>

I know that at Archon, in St. Louis, for those who have not heard of it,
Mike, the Sound Tech, converts all the audio he gets into a format his computer
likes. I believe that my Sound Jedi does the same thing. I am of the belief that
this is a growing trend at masquerades.

Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

In a message dated 6/19/2008 10:44:23 PM Central Daylight Time,
gravelymac@yahoo.com writes:

> What the hell is up with showing me your documentation ON your lap top, or
> no lie, on your cell phone .

Cell phone?!? You’re kidding, right? Right?

Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

For CC24 & 25 we ripped everything to my laptop and ran sound from
iTunes. For CC23, we ripped all of the audio (except for a couple on
tape), then burned a CD for the sound tech to use.

Les

—

Live, never to be ashamed if everything you do is published around the
world. Even if what is published is not true. — Richard Bach

On Jun 20, 2008, at 9:57 AM, osierhenry@cs.com wrote:

> In a message dated 6/19/2008 10:09:16 PM Central Daylight Time,
> casamai@sbcglobal.net writes:
> > This is very smart. I was thinking, “Boy, there’s gotta be a way
> to more or
> > less prevent people coming to Tech with a CD and saying ‘Play this
> many
> > seconds of this track and…..'”. This would force people to make
> more
> > precisely mixed CDs. Good idea.
> >
> > >—–Original Message—–
> > >From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of
> > >Betsy Delaney
> > >Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:01 AM
> > >To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: Re: [runacc] Saturday’s Elephant
> > >
> > >
> > >I understand from Judy’s recent posting on the CC LJ community that
> > >CC27 is asking for either .wav or .mp3 files for masquerade
> sound. I
> > >am willing to make myself available to help any entry who can
> provide
> > >me with a disk or tape in advance of or at the con. If asked, I
> will
> > >also bring additional spare equipment as a safeguard.
> >
> >
> >
> I know that at Archon, in St. Louis, for those who have not heard of
> it,
> Mike, the Sound Tech, converts all the audio he gets into a format
> his computer
> likes. I believe that my Sound Jedi does the same thing. I am of the
> belief that
> this is a growing trend at masquerades.
>
> Henry
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

At 10:44 PM 6/19/2008, you wrote:

Okay! That’s new! I’m no luddite, but this is ridiculous. What is
wrong with paper?

Pierre

>the tech/sound question reminded me of this which will seem like an
>old man Andy Rooney rant, but I don’t care.
>
>What the hell is up with showing me your documentation ON your lap
>top, or no lie, on your cell phone .
>
>If I can’t hold it and take it to judges chambers with me, I reserve
>the right to ignore it.
>
>I’m just sayin is all…….
>
>Gravely MacCabre

“Those Who Fail To Learn History
Are Doomed to Repeat It;
Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly —
Why They Are Simply Doomed.

Achemdro’hm
“The Illusion of Historical Fact”
— C.Y. 4971

Andromeda

Did they offer to transmit the documentation to the judges’ phones? 🙂

Byron

—– Original Message —–
From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger<mailto:costumrs@radiks.net>
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com<mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [runacc] weird crap in the new world order.

At 10:44 PM 6/19/2008, you wrote:

Okay! That’s new! I’m no luddite, but this is ridiculous. What is
wrong with paper?

Pierre

>the tech/sound question reminded me of this which will seem like an
>old man Andy Rooney rant, but I don’t care.
>
>What the hell is up with showing me your documentation ON your lap
>top, or no lie, on your cell phone .
>
>If I can’t hold it and take it to judges chambers with me, I reserve
>the right to ignore it.
>
>I’m just sayin is all…….
>
>Gravely MacCabre

“Those Who Fail To Learn History
Are Doomed to Repeat It;
Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly —
Why They Are Simply Doomed.

Achemdro’hm
“The Illusion of Historical Fact”
— C.Y. 4971

Andromeda

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >the tech/sound question reminded me of this which will seem like an
> >old man Andy Rooney rant, but I don’t care.
> >
> >What the hell is up with showing me your documentation ON your lap
> >top, or no lie, on your cell phone .
> >
> >If I can’t hold it and take it to judges chambers with me, I reserve
> >the right to ignore it.
> >
> >I’m just sayin is all…….
> >
> >Gravely MacCabre

I think it’s a misunderstanding in how the judging works. In a lot of anime
cons I’ve been to, there is no need to take the documentation to the judges’
room because there is no judging photo. It’s enough to compare the
documentation to the costume in person.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I guess if they can run registration by text message, why not documentation?

Michael

Quoting Byron Connell <bpconnell@verizon.net>:

> Did they offer to transmit the documentation to the judges’ phones? 🙂
>
> Byron
>
>

Marty & Ricky: Please note:

For anyone planning to enter the single pattern contest @ CC-27, you
should be aware that Butterick has two different numbers for the man’s
duster coat. I discovered to my annoyance that I already had this
pattern, after buying it under the number listed for the contest. And,
of course, had already discarded the receipt! It has been sold as both
#3830, and as #P142. If anyone wants my second copy please let me
know. I can bring it with me to WorldCon, Pups meetings, Philcon or
Albacon, as necessary.

Tina Connell

Hi, all!

Thanks to more help from Kevin Roche than I can enumerate here, we’ve
FINALLY moved Costume-ConNections (http://www.Costume-Con.org/) to its
new home. It may take you a day or so to see the change (just came up
for me), but you’ll see it shortly!

Because of Kevin’s hard work, the gallery has transfered intact, with
no errors we could find.

If you notice anything weird with the site now that it’s been moved
successfully, please let us know ASAP!

Send email to Karen Dick or me, please, not to the list.

We’ll be adding the two missing CCs (25 and 26) starting around Labor
Day. As always, if you notice information on a record that is
incorrect, let us know and we’ll fix the problem!

Enjoy!!!

Betsy (on behalf of the Costume-Con Archives)

I noticed you’re still double displaying the custom field info in two
columns. I take it you haven’t had a chance to fix that yet?

Bruce

> —–Original Message—–
> From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Betsy Delaney
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:30 AM
> To: ICG-D; runacc@yahoogroups.com; siliconweb@yahoogroups.com; cc26sv-
> chat@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [runacc] Costume-ConNections has moved!!!
>
> Hi, all!
>
> Thanks to more help from Kevin Roche than I can enumerate here, we’ve
> FINALLY moved Costume-ConNections (http://www.Costume-Con.org/) to its
> new home. It may take you a day or so to see the change (just came up
> for me), but you’ll see it shortly!
>
> Because of Kevin’s hard work, the gallery has transfered intact, with
> no errors we could find.
>
> If you notice anything weird with the site now that it’s been moved
> successfully, please let us know ASAP!
>
> Send email to Karen Dick or me, please, not to the list.
>
> We’ll be adding the two missing CCs (25 and 26) starting around Labor
> Day. As always, if you notice information on a record that is
> incorrect, let us know and we’ll fix the problem!
>
> Enjoy!!!
>
> Betsy (on behalf of the Costume-Con Archives)
>
> ————————————
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/Yahoo!

Groups

> Links
>
>
>

Hi, Bruce!

Not a bit of it. Kevin and I barely got the site moved before the
hosting account locked up (I still haven’t broken the news to them),
and I’m on the road right now (in Louisville, CO, headed East on I-70
starting tomorrow morning)!

Karen and I still need to do the whole training thing so she knows how
to add and modify records, which we’re doing after Labor Day. With
luck, we can try to fix the problem, but I’m not cluefull enough to be
sure it will work.

I know it’s a pain, especially when rules are displayed…

Sorry!

Have you noticed anything else odd?

Thanks!

Betsy

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Bruce & Nora Mai <casamai@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I noticed you’re still double displaying the custom field info in two
> columns. I take it you haven’t had a chance to fix that yet?
>
> Bruce
>
>> —–Original Message—–
>> From: runacc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
>> Betsy Delaney
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:30 AM
>> To: ICG-D; runacc@yahoogroups.com; siliconweb@yahoogroups.com; cc26sv-
>> chat@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [runacc] Costume-ConNections has moved!!!
>>
>> Hi, all!
>>
>> Thanks to more help from Kevin Roche than I can enumerate here, we’ve
>> FINALLY moved Costume-ConNections (http://www.Costume-Con.org/) to its
>> new home. It may take you a day or so to see the change (just came up
>> for me), but you’ll see it shortly!
>>
>> Because of Kevin’s hard work, the gallery has transfered intact, with
>> no errors we could find.
>>
>> If you notice anything weird with the site now that it’s been moved
>> successfully, please let us know ASAP!
>>
>> Send email to Karen Dick or me, please, not to the list.
>>
>> We’ll be adding the two missing CCs (25 and 26) starting around Labor
>> Day. As always, if you notice information on a record that is
>> incorrect, let us know and we’ll fix the problem!
>>
>> Enjoy!!!
>>
>> Betsy (on behalf of the Costume-Con Archives)
>>
>> ————————————
>>
>> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/Yahoo!
> Groups
>> Links
>>
>>
>>
>

For those who have links to it (or are simply interested) – the
original CC25 website is going away.
As of August 15, 2008. <www.cc25.net> , will be no more. The site in
its entirety can still be viewed at:
<www.casamai.com/slcg/cc25/start.htm>

Currently it hasn’t been updated much from the working model from just
prior to the con but there will be some future updates & it will
probably be kept at this site in perpetuity just for historical &
entertainment purposes.

Nora

Hi Nora —

I’ll be sure to update the link on the cc26.info site.

Kevin

von_drago wrote:

>
> For those who have links to it (or are simply interested) – the
> original CC25 website is going away.
> As of August 15, 2008. <www.cc25.net> , will be no more. The site in
> its entirety can still be viewed at:
> <www.casamai.com/slcg/cc25/start.htm>
>
> Currently it hasn’t been updated much from the working model from just
> prior to the con but there will be some future updates & it will
> probably be kept at this site in perpetuity just for historical &
> entertainment purposes.
>
> Nora
>
>

Sidebar is fixed.

For reference for anyone else using Gallery 2, when you edit an album
you can choose which items are displayed in the sidebar. A number of
them had custom fields turned on.

I cleared the problem by going through the 30 convention-level albums,
making sure custom fields were turned off in that album and telling it
to propagate the setting through child albums using that same (“Matrix”)
theme.

Took about 15 minutes to work through them.

Kevin

Betsy Delaney wrote:

>
> Hi, Bruce!
>
> Not a bit of it. Kevin and I barely got the site moved before the
> hosting account locked up (I still haven’t broken the news to them),
> and I’m on the road right now (in Louisville, CO, headed East on I-70
> starting tomorrow morning)!
>
> Karen and I still need to do the whole training thing so she knows how
> to add and modify records, which we’re doing after Labor Day. With
> luck, we can try to fix the problem, but I’m not cluefull enough to be
> sure it will work.
>
> I know it’s a pain, especially when rules are displayed…
>
> Sorry!
>
> Have you noticed anything else odd?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Betsy
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Bruce & Nora Mai
> <casamai@sbcglobal.net <mailto:casamai%40sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
> > I noticed you’re still double displaying the custom field info in two
> > columns. I take it you haven’t had a chance to fix that yet?
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> >> –
>

My hero!

😎

Thanks, Kevin!

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:12 AM, Kevin Roche, Costume-con 26 Convention
Chair <chair@cc26.org> wrote:

> Sidebar is fixed.

Many thanks, Kevin.

The CC site definitely benefits from your expertise with Gallery 2.

–Karen

—– Original Message —–
From: Kevin Roche, Costume-con 26 Convention Chair
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:12 AM
Subject: Re: [runacc] Costume-ConNections has moved!!!

Sidebar is fixed.

For reference for anyone else using Gallery 2, when you edit an album
you can choose which items are displayed in the sidebar. A number of
them had custom fields turned on.

I cleared the problem by going through the 30 convention-level albums,
making sure custom fields were turned off in that album and telling it
to propagate the setting through child albums using that same (“Matrix”)
theme.

Took about 15 minutes to work through them.

Kevin

Betsy Delaney wrote:
>
> Hi, Bruce!
>
> Not a bit of it. Kevin and I barely got the site moved before the
> hosting account locked up (I still haven’t broken the news to them),
> and I’m on the road right now (in Louisville, CO, headed East on I-70
> starting tomorrow morning)!
>
> Karen and I still need to do the whole training thing so she knows how
> to add and modify records, which we’re doing after Labor Day. With
> luck, we can try to fix the problem, but I’m not cluefull enough to be
> sure it will work.
>
> I know it’s a pain, especially when rules are displayed…
>
> Sorry!
>
> Have you noticed anything else odd?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Betsy
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Bruce & Nora Mai
> <casamai@sbcglobal.net <mailto:casamai%40sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
> > I noticed you’re still double displaying the custom field info in two
> > columns. I take it you haven’t had a chance to fix that yet?
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> >> –
>

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Some of you may have heard a rumor that I will be running the masquerade at Anticipation, next year’s Worldcon in Montreal.

The rumor is correct.

Barb Schofield and Martin Miller have withdrawn as Anticipation’s masquerade directors. At Denvention, I was asked to take the job and agreed to do so.

Barb and Martin filled several staff positions. I hope that those persons will continue in those positions. Beyond that, I will need all the help I can get!

Byron

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