Yahoo Archive: Page 30 of 67

 

Messages in runacc group. Page 30 of 67.

Group: runacc Message: 1451 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 10/11/2006
Subject: Building a mailing list
Group: runacc Message: 1452 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 11/6/2006
Subject: Tables at CC25
Group: runacc Message: 1453 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 11/8/2006
Subject: CC14 images are now online!
Group: runacc Message: 1454 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 11/8/2006
Subject: Fwd: KWCS
Group: runacc Message: 1455 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 11/10/2006
Subject: Re: Tables at CC25
Group: runacc Message: 1456 From: Andrew Trembley Date: 11/10/2006
Subject: Re: Tables at CC25
Group: runacc Message: 1457 From: Kevin Roche Date: 11/10/2006
Subject: Re: Tables at CC25
Group: runacc Message: 1458 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 11/10/2006
Subject: Re: Tables at CC25
Group: runacc Message: 1459 From: Tina Date: 11/11/2006
Subject: Re: Tables at CC25
Group: runacc Message: 1460 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 11/11/2006
Subject: Re: Tables at CC25
Group: runacc Message: 1461 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 11/26/2006
Subject: Field Report: KWCS
Group: runacc Message: 1462 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 11/27/2006
Subject: Re: Field Report: KWCS
Group: runacc Message: 1463 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 11/27/2006
Subject: Re: Field Report: KWCS
Group: runacc Message: 1464 From: Kevin Roche Date: 11/29/2006
Subject: Thanks to CC24
Group: runacc Message: 1465 From: Kevin Roche Date: 11/30/2006
Subject: [Fwd: Costume-Con 26 PR 1]
Group: runacc Message: 1466 From: Andrew Trembley Date: 12/3/2006
Subject: Reports are trickling back…
Group: runacc Message: 1467 From: Byron Connell Date: 12/3/2006
Subject: Re: Reports are trickling back…
Group: runacc Message: 1468 From: Andrew Trembley Date: 12/3/2006
Subject: Re: Reports are trickling back…
Group: runacc Message: 1469 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 12/4/2006
Subject: Next Years Knowne World Costume Symposium location
Group: runacc Message: 1470 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 12/5/2006
Subject: Locus Online convention listings…
Group: runacc Message: 1471 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 12/24/2006
Subject: Registration / photo release idea
Group: runacc Message: 1472 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 12/24/2006
Subject: Re: Registration / photo release idea
Group: runacc Message: 1473 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 12/25/2006
Subject: Re: Registration / photo release idea
Group: runacc Message: 1474 From: Byron Connell Date: 12/31/2006
Subject: Costume-Con Web Site
Group: runacc Message: 1475 From: Kevin Roche, CC26 Convention Chair Date: 1/15/2007
Subject: A request on behalf of my dealers room head
Group: runacc Message: 1476 From: Byron Connell Date: 1/18/2007
Subject: Costume Photos in SF Con Art Shows
Group: runacc Message: 1477 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 1/21/2007
Subject: All Hail Wendy Wildermoth and Pierre Pettinger!
Group: runacc Message: 1478 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 1/27/2007
Subject: releases examples
Group: runacc Message: 1479 From: runacc@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/27/2007
Subject: New file uploaded to runacc
Group: runacc Message: 1480 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 1/27/2007
Subject: Photo, video & liability release
Group: runacc Message: 1481 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 1/27/2007
Subject: Re: releases examples
Group: runacc Message: 1482 From: Andrew Trembley Date: 1/31/2007
Subject: Please forgive the shotgun-blast…
Group: runacc Message: 1483 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Another disqualification…
Group: runacc Message: 1484 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: Another disqualification…
Group: runacc Message: 1485 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Refunds
Group: runacc Message: 1486 From: Kevin Roche, CC26 Convention Chair Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: Refunds
Group: runacc Message: 1487 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: Refunds
Group: runacc Message: 1488 From: Les Roth Date: 2/2/2007
Subject: Re: Refunds
Group: runacc Message: 1489 From: Ricky & Karen Dick Date: 2/2/2007
Subject: Re: Refunds
Group: runacc Message: 1490 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 2/4/2007
Subject: CC25 Refund Policy
Group: runacc Message: 1491 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 2/5/2007
Subject: Re: Photo, video & liability release
Group: runacc Message: 1492 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 2/5/2007
Subject: Re: Photo, video & liability release
Group: runacc Message: 1493 From: Martin Gear Date: 2/6/2007
Subject: Re: Photo, video & liability release
Group: runacc Message: 1494 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 2/6/2007
Subject: call for readers…
Group: runacc Message: 1495 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 2/6/2007
Subject: Re: Photo, video & liability release
Group: runacc Message: 1496 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 2/6/2007
Subject: Re: call for readers…
Group: runacc Message: 1497 From: Elaine Mami Date: 2/10/2007
Subject: Re: call for readers…
Group: runacc Message: 1498 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 3/16/2007
Subject: Costume-ConNections web site updated…
Group: runacc Message: 1499 From: Byron Connell Date: 3/24/2007
Subject: Off to Costume-Con 25
Group: runacc Message: 1500 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 4/3/2007
Subject: Back from CC25

 


 

Group: runacc Message: 1451 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 10/11/2006
Subject: Building a mailing list
Just a note to all you future con committees:

We’re happy to report that just about everyone is indicating on their
membership forms that they would like to be notified about future CCs. At
some point after CC25, we will be giving relevant groups a copy of our
database for use to build up mailing lists.

Bruce

 

Group: runacc Message: 1452 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 11/6/2006
Subject: Tables at CC25
Please let us know ASAP who and how many people will need tables to shill
for whaterver purpose – cons, bids, etc.

Bruce

 

Group: runacc Message: 1453 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 11/8/2006
Subject: CC14 images are now online!
Thanks to Judy Mitchell and to Karen and Ricky for providing the DVD of
the masquerade, the images from CC14 are FINALLY up on the
Costume-ConNections web site.

You will find them here:

http://costume-con.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=2916

Sad to say, the vast majority of images on the site are from the video,
which means the quality leaves a LOT to be desired. There are
approximately two dozen images from the Single Pattern competition,
which came to me courtesy of Margaret Richardson (they are Ken Warren’s
photos and are credited that way).

I have been hoping for the complete set of official photos, but although
I know several people who have either partial or full sets of the
photos, I’ve never received them. I know Pierre is investigating his own
archives for anything he has, so there may be further updates as images
are received.

At this point, only CC20 and CC24 are unrepresented by photos. I have
black-and-white images of CC20 (and may have color video snaps of the
con) by the end of December.

If you notice any errors, please let me know! I’ll be working on the
site again in December, as I’m trying Real Hard to finish a SF novel
I’ve been working on since high school, using National Novel Writing
Month (NaNoWriMo) as an excuse. I’ve made major progress and am loathe
to stop before the deadline of November 30.

If you have photos you’re willing to loan for the purposes of scanning,
or you’re willing to scan photos and send them my way (300 dpi,
please!), let me know as soon as possible, and please also let me know
who took the photos.

Thanks!

Enjoy,

Betsy Delaney
Costume-Con Archivist



Betsy Delaney

*************************************************************************
See my resume at: http://www.hawkeswood.com/betsywork.shtml
*************************************************************************

 

Group: runacc Message: 1454 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 11/8/2006
Subject: Fwd: KWCS
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1455 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 11/10/2006
Subject: Re: Tables at CC25

In a message dated 11/6/2006 10:33:43 PM Central Standard Time,
casamai@sbcglobal.net writes:

> Please let us know ASAP who and how many people will need tables to shill
> for whaterver purpose – cons, bids, etc.
>
>
>

Bruce,
I will need a combo table space for voting, my bid, and in case anyone
has questions about the FFS.
Henry of the Three Hats

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1456 From: Andrew Trembley Date: 11/10/2006
Subject: Re: Tables at CC25

Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:

> Please let us know ASAP who and how many people will need tables to shill
> for whaterver purpose – cons, bids, etc.

Put CC26 down for a table, please.

andy

 

Group: runacc Message: 1457 From: Kevin Roche Date: 11/10/2006
Subject: Re: Tables at CC25

Or the CC26 Video Masquerade 😉

(ducking and running for cover)

K

osierhenry@cs.com wrote:

> Bruce,
> I will need a combo table space for voting, my bid, and in case anyone
> has questions about the FFS.
> Henry of the Three Hats
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1458 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 11/10/2006
Subject: Re: Tables at CC25

In a message dated 11/10/2006 12:33:56 PM Central Standard Time,
kevin@twistedimage.com writes:

> Or the CC26 Video Masquerade 😉
>
> (ducking and running for cover)
>
> K
>
> osierhenry@cs.com wrote:
> >Bruce,
> >I will need a combo table space for voting, my bid, and in case anyone
> >has questions about the FFS.
> >Henry of the Three Hats
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>

Four, four wonderful hats! (Insert thunder here!)
Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1459 From: Tina Date: 11/11/2006
Subject: Re: Tables at CC25

Are you thinking of changing your name to Bartholomew Cubbins? (Always thought that would be a great stage presentation, if there were any practical way to pull it off.)

Tina

—– Original Message —–
From: osierhenry@cs.com<mailto:osierhenry@cs.com>
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com<mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [runacc] Tables at CC25

Four, four wonderful hats! (Insert thunder here!)
Henry

Visit Your Group <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/runacc;_ylc=X3oDMTJlNDFrcHB2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzk2NzQ3MTgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MzAwMzM3BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTE2MzE5NTQ2MQ–>
SPONSORED LINKS
a.. Costuming<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads;_ylc=X3oDMTJjbjBmdGJvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BF9wAzEEZ3JwSWQDOTY3NDcxOARncnBzcElkAzE3MDczMDAzMzcEc2VjA3NsbW9kBHN0aW1lAzExNjMxOTU0NjY-?t=ms&k=Costuming&w1=Costuming&c=1&s=15&g=2&.sig=kbB8Oq1UUp8sVXkhjv8sDA>
Yahoo! TV
Staying in tonight?<http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12higp0mt/M=493064.8985665.9759897.8674578/D=groups/S=1707300337:NC/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1163202662/A=3848445/R=0/SIG=10t28jksf/*http://tv.yahoo.com/lineup/>

Check listings to

see what is on.

Market Online
Drive<http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12i8ekooc/M=493064.9337501.10154278.8674578/D=groups/S=1707300337:NC/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1163202662/A=4025347/R=0/SIG=12jnci1fd/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44092/*http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/srch/index.php> traffic to

your web site with

Sponsored Search.

Yahoo! Photos
Create your own<http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hv5ki1m/M=493064.8985655.9760766.8674578/D=groups/S=1707300337:NC/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1163202662/A=3848635/R=0/SIG=10p8tommg/*http://photos.yahoo.com>

Photo Gifts
.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1460 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 11/11/2006
Subject: Re: Tables at CC25

Already done?

http://costume-con.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=3835

Though I suppose it could be again (and again and again…).

Cheers,

Betsy

Tina wrote:

> Are you thinking of changing your name to Bartholomew Cubbins? (Always thought that would be a great stage presentation, if there were any practical way to pull it off.)
>
> Tina
>
> —– Original Message —–
> From: osierhenry@cs.com<mailto:osierhenry@cs.com>
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com<mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 4:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [runacc] Tables at CC25
>
> Four, four wonderful hats! (Insert thunder here!)
> Henry
>
>
> Visit Your Group <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/runacc;_ylc=X3oDMTJlNDFrcHB2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzk2NzQ3MTgEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MzAwMzM3BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTE2MzE5NTQ2MQ–>
> SPONSORED LINKS
> a.. Costuming<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads;_ylc=X3oDMTJjbjBmdGJvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BF9wAzEEZ3JwSWQDOTY3NDcxOARncnBzcElkAzE3MDczMDAzMzcEc2VjA3NsbW9kBHN0aW1lAzExNjMxOTU0NjY-?t=ms&k=Costuming&w1=Costuming&c=1&s=15&g=2&.sig=kbB8Oq1UUp8sVXkhjv8sDA>
> Yahoo! TV
> Staying in tonight?<http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12higp0mt/M=493064.8985665.9759897.8674578/D=groups/S=1707300337:NC/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1163202662/A=3848445/R=0/SIG=10t28jksf/*http://tv.yahoo.com/lineup/>
>
> Check listings to
>
> see what is on.
>
> Market Online
> Drive<http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12i8ekooc/M=493064.9337501.10154278.8674578/D=groups/S=1707300337:NC/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1163202662/A=4025347/R=0/SIG=12jnci1fd/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44092/*http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/srch/index.php> traffic to
>
> your web site with
>
> Sponsored Search.
>
> Yahoo! Photos
> Create your own<http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hv5ki1m/M=493064.8985655.9760766.8674578/D=groups/S=1707300337:NC/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1163202662/A=3848635/R=0/SIG=10p8tommg/*http://photos.yahoo.com>
>
> Photo Gifts
> .
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>



Betsy Delaney

*************************************************************************
See my resume at: http://www.hawkeswood.com/betsywork.shtml
*************************************************************************

 

Group: runacc Message: 1461 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 11/26/2006
Subject: Field Report: KWCS
Hello!

Yesterday, I went to the Knowne World Costuming Symposium in Madison, WI.
Knowne World Costuming Symposium 2006 There were folks there who still fondly
remember CC21. Apparently, CC25 overlaps with some SCA events. I did encounter
one person from Californ-eye-aye and was excited to hear about CC26!

I also saw many excellent costumes!

Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1462 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 11/27/2006
Subject: Re: Field Report: KWCS

On Nov 26, 2006, at 11:57 AM, osierhenry@cs.com wrote:

> Yesterday, I went to the Knowne World Costuming Symposium in
> Madison, WI.

Any word where it will be next year?


andy trembley, Bitchy Design Queen
http://www.bovil.com/
“It’s not pink; it’s peach-colored. Pink is tacky.” –Manfred
Pfirsich Marie Rommel

 

Group: runacc Message: 1463 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 11/27/2006
Subject: Re: Field Report: KWCS

In a message dated 11/27/2006 1:13:17 PM Central Standard Time,
attrembl@bovil.com writes:

> On Nov 26, 2006, at 11:57 AM, osierhenry@cs.com wrote:
> >Yesterday, I went to the Knowne World Costuming Symposium in
> >Madison, WI.
>
> Any word where it will be next year?
>
>
>
>
>

Nope. I do have the e-mail address for the person who ran it this year. I’ll
see if she knows.

Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1464 From: Kevin Roche Date: 11/29/2006
Subject: Thanks to CC24
The envelope with your pass-along check arrived Thanksgiving weekend.

Thanks from everyone at Costume-Con 26!

Kevin

 

Group: runacc Message: 1465 From: Kevin Roche Date: 11/30/2006
Subject: [Fwd: Costume-Con 26 PR 1]
Just a heads-up that PR 1 for CC26 has been mailed!

——– Original Message ——–
Subject: Costume-Con 26
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 14:43:21 -0800
From: Denisen Hartlove <dhartlove@ix.netcom.com>
To: <ICG-D@yahoogroups.com>, <siliconweb@yahoogroups.com>

Hi everyone!

Am sending this email while wearing my hat as the CC26 Progress Reports
Maven.

Progress Report One for Costume-Con 26 is going out today, chock-a-block
full of useful information! All members should be receiving theirs
shortly in the mail! (For privacy purposes, we are using members’ badge
names as the addressee names on the labels.) In addition, as one of the
many, many services Costume-Con 26 is happy to provide to the costuming
community at large, this PR includes a membership form, so that members
can assist those who haven’t yet registered to do so while membership
rates are still low.

Thank you, and we’ll look forward to seeing you all in San Jose in April
of 2008!

Denisen Hartlove
Maven, Nudge, Mom

 

Group: runacc Message: 1466 From: Andrew Trembley Date: 12/3/2006
Subject: Reports are trickling back…
…from this year’s SMOFcon, held in Kansas City
<http://www.midamericon.org/smofcon/index.htm>. Yeah, I should have
probably mentioned this earlier for those of you conveniently close to KC.

SMOFcon (in case you didn’t know) is the annual convention of
conrunners. It’s heavily Worldcon-oriented, but not exclusively (one of
the big events is “The SMOFcon Inquisition” where active Worldcon bids
are grilled on their plans). SFSFC, our local big fannish con non-profit
corporation who operated ConFrancisco and ConJose, sponsors a few $500
“scholarships” for Bay Area folks involved in local and regional
conventions to go.

The one ugly report that came back is that SMOFcon 2006 was rather
haphazardly put together. This doesn’t reflect well on MAC’s KC in 2009
Worldcon bid.

SMOFcon 2007 will be in Boston <http://www.mcfi.org/smofcon/>. I don’t
know if we’re going (Boston in December? not likely…) but for those of
you on the east coast, it might be something worth planning. Word is the
focus of programming is going to be on marketing your convention and
boosting attendance…

andy

 

Group: runacc Message: 1467 From: Byron Connell Date: 12/3/2006
Subject: Re: Reports are trickling back…

Andy —

Arisia is in January in the Boston area!

BTW, MCFI is the New England Worldcon-running group. It put on Noreascon IV. That suggests that the 2007 SMOFcon should be pretty well organized.

Byron
(who was at SMOFcon I, with Tina, IIRC)

—– Original Message —–
From: Andrew Trembley<mailto:attrembl@bovil.com>
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com<mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 6:58 PM
Subject: [runacc] Reports are trickling back…

…from this year’s SMOFcon, held in Kansas City
<http://www.midamericon.org/smofcon/index.htm<http://www.midamericon.org/smofcon/index.htm>>. Yeah, I should have
probably mentioned this earlier for those of you conveniently close to KC.

SMOFcon (in case you didn’t know) is the annual convention of
conrunners. It’s heavily Worldcon-oriented, but not exclusively (one of
the big events is “The SMOFcon Inquisition” where active Worldcon bids
are grilled on their plans). SFSFC, our local big fannish con non-profit
corporation who operated ConFrancisco and ConJose, sponsors a few $500
“scholarships” for Bay Area folks involved in local and regional
conventions to go.

The one ugly report that came back is that SMOFcon 2006 was rather
haphazardly put together. This doesn’t reflect well on MAC’s KC in 2009
Worldcon bid.

SMOFcon 2007 will be in Boston <http://www.mcfi.org/smofcon/<http://www.mcfi.org/smofcon/>>. I don’t
know if we’re going (Boston in December? not likely…) but for those of
you on the east coast, it might be something worth planning. Word is the
focus of programming is going to be on marketing your convention and
boosting attendance…

andy

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1468 From: Andrew Trembley Date: 12/3/2006
Subject: Re: Reports are trickling back…

Byron Connell wrote:

> Andy —
>
> Arisia is in January in the Boston area!
>

I never said that was sane either. The storm last week, though, was a
definite reminder of why I don’t like traveling north-ish in anything
that people refer to as “winter.” A lot of people didn’t make it to
SMOFcon because of the flight cancellations, reschedules and delays.

> BTW, MCFI is the New England Worldcon-running group. It put on Noreascon IV. That suggests that the 2007 SMOFcon should be pretty well organized.
>

MCFI definitely has a track record of solid organization.

andy

 

Group: runacc Message: 1469 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 12/4/2006
Subject: Next Years Knowne World Costume Symposium location
Hello!

I have found out that bidding for next year’s location is STILL in the air!
Apparently, they only decide about six months before the date of the next one.
So, if I hear anything, I will make sure to spread the word.

Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1470 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 12/5/2006
Subject: Locus Online convention listings…
<http://www.locusmag.com/Conventions.html>

Probably want to get your con dates sent in…

andy


Andy Trembley, Bull-in-Drag
The Bovine Illuminati (It’s the Cows, Inc.)
http://www.bovil.com/
Moo!

 

Group: runacc Message: 1471 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 12/24/2006
Subject: Registration / photo release idea
I had an idea about affriming info & gathering photo releases at Registration & wanted to run it by people here to see if they think it would work. (And to see what points I may have missed.)

It goes like this:
1. Create a registration form (based on the existing form) for use at the convention itself. It would contain all the usual stuff but omit the rate scale, dealer info & whatever else is then irrelevant. Add a signature release paragraph that includes a statement verifying that all the information above is correct & allowing use of their photo or video image from the official sources to be used to promote CC25 & Costume-Con only.
2. Generate some of these forms from the registration database pre-filled with the info we have on pre-regged members. Thus we’d get verified info & releases from the pre-reg people.
3. Use these forms at registration for at-the-door members. Again – verified data & releases all at one time.

What does everyone think?

Nora

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1472 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 12/24/2006
Subject: Re: Registration / photo release idea

In a message dated 12/24/2006 9:19:11 AM Central Standard Time,
casamai@sbcglobal.net writes:

> I had an idea about affriming info &gathering photo releases at
> Registration &wanted to run it by people here to see if they think it would work. (And
> to see what points I may have missed.)
>
> What does everyone think?
>

Hmmm. Yea. Um, I’m going to have to kind of think about that. And my TPS
reports.

Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1473 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 12/25/2006
Subject: Re: Registration / photo release idea

I think it’s an excellent idea, and you should add a liability release
as well. I’m a prime example of why.

I wasn’t competing or judging at CCXV, or working tech, or any of the
other things I could have been doing at the con when I fell off the
stage and cracked my left rib.

Fortunately, I was the con chair.

Everyone who walks in the door for the con should be signing something
that says “I’m here at my own risk, and I’ll hold the con harmless if I
do something stupid.”

I think I’ve published our release form before. I don’t recall when. I
can *try* to discover it, if it’s in the folder on CCXV in my office and
not in the boxes Ricky picked up from me.

At a bare minimum, you should also consider running it by a lawyer, if
possible.

Or something.

Oh, and Merry Christmas by the way!

Betsy

osierhenry@cs.com wrote:

> In a message dated 12/24/2006 9:19:11 AM Central Standard Time,
> casamai@sbcglobal.net writes:
>
>>I had an idea about affriming info &gathering photo releases at
>>Registration &wanted to run it by people here to see if they think it would work. (And
>>to see what points I may have missed.)
>>
>>What does everyone think?
>>
>
>
>
> Hmmm. Yea. Um, I’m going to have to kind of think about that. And my TPS
> reports.
>
> Henry
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>



Betsy Delaney

*************************************************************************
See my resume at: http://www.hawkeswood.com/betsywork.shtml
*************************************************************************

 

Group: runacc Message: 1474 From: Byron Connell Date: 12/31/2006
Subject: Costume-Con Web Site
Over the last couple of days, I did some research using Costume-Con.org. It was an absolute joy to use!

Kudos to Betsy and her gnomes, and my thanks.

Byron

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1475 From: Kevin Roche, CC26 Convention Chair Date: 1/15/2007
Subject: A request on behalf of my dealers room head
Dave Clark (in charge of our dealers room) is trying to get a feeling
for what recent Costume-Cons have charged, how many dealers, etc as he
develops the design for the CC26 dealers room. While I may have a lot of
that, it’s all in ephemera, as most online information has, of course,
evaporated into the ether by now.

If any of you have that information to hand for your convention, could
you send it to him at dealers@cc26.info? It would be a tremendous help
to him.

Thanks!

Kevin
CC26 Chair

 

Group: runacc Message: 1476 From: Byron Connell Date: 1/18/2007
Subject: Costume Photos in SF Con Art Shows
Richard Man had half a dozen photos of costumes nicely presented in the art show at Arisia last week. This looks to be an effective way to boost costuming’s profile among SF con goers and runners. Are any more con art shows in the offing? I have some influence with Lunacon and Philcon, if needed.

Byron

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1477 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 1/21/2007
Subject: All Hail Wendy Wildermoth and Pierre Pettinger!
Costume-ConNections is proud to announce that CC20 images have been
posted for the first time thanks to Wendy Wildermoth of the Australian
Costumers’ Guild, who graciously provided the images from her collection.

And, with many thanks to Pierre Pettinger for scanning the photos from
his CC14 collection, most of the images have been updated!

There is still one CC20 image missing (SF01), but steps are being taken
now to find a copy of that image.

I’ve been in touch with the photographer for CC24, and those photos will
be up on display shortly.

With the scanning of photos and replacement of the video snaps for CC1,
video snaps for the few remaining images for which I have no photos, and
the summary of data from each of the CCs (the last of the projects), the
Costume-Con archives online will be complete!

As always, if you have any corrections to make, please let me know!

You’ll find the images here:

http://costume-con.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=2916

and here:

http://costume-con.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=2928

Enjoy!

Betsy



Betsy Delaney

*************************************************************************
See my resume at: http://www.hawkeswood.com/betsywork.shtml
*************************************************************************

 

Group: runacc Message: 1478 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 1/27/2007
Subject: releases examples
I’ve uploaded some examples of Photo, video & liability releases to the files for this list. I’m hoping to use them for CC25 & want some of you to look them over for input.
Like? Not like?

Nora

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1479 From: runacc@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/27/2007
Subject: New file uploaded to runacc
Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the runacc
group.

File : /release examples.doc
Uploaded by : casamai <casamai@sbcglobal.net>
Description : Photo, Video & Liability release

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/runacc/files/release%20examples.doc

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

casamai <casamai@sbcglobal.net>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1480 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 1/27/2007
Subject: Photo, video & liability release
I’ve uploaded some release example that we’re considering for CC25.
I’d like some feedback, though. Like? Don’t like?

Nora

 

Group: runacc Message: 1481 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 1/27/2007
Subject: Re: releases examples

Thanks, Nora!

I’ll have a look tomorrow. Waiting for my toes to finally thaw out from
today’s peace rally and this evening’s theatre workshop. I’ll have more
time on Monday, if you can wait that long…

Cheers,

Betsy

Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:

> I’ve uploaded some examples of Photo, video & liability releases to the files for this list. I’m hoping to use them for CC25 & want some of you to look them over for input.
> Like? Not like?
>
> Nora
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>



Betsy Delaney

*************************************************************************
See my resume at: http://www.hawkeswood.com/betsywork.shtml
*************************************************************************

 

Group: runacc Message: 1482 From: Andrew Trembley Date: 1/31/2007
Subject: Please forgive the shotgun-blast…
Equal enforcement of the masquerade rules is the cornerstone of fair
competition.

*Entry number 40, “The Idolm@ster”* has been disqualified from the Anime
Los Angeles 2007 masquerade competition for violating the rules, and
their award for “Best Choreography” has been revoked.

Rule #1 of the masquerade is “All contestants must be attending members
of Anime Los Angeles. If the maker and presenter are different people,
both must be attending members. Purchased and rented costumes may not be
entered.” One of the presenters in the entry was not a member of the
convention.

For details, see:
<http://community.livejournal.com/animelosangeles/46869.html>

Andy Trembley
Co-director
Anime Los Angeles 2007 Masquerade

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1483 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Another disqualification…
Equal enforcement of the masquerade rules is the cornerstone of fair
competition.

Entry number 20, “Stephane Kohlwey” has been disqualified from the
Anime Los Angeles 2007 masquerade competition for violating the
rules, and her Workmanship Award for “Excellence in Leather Bodice
Work” is hereby revoked.

Rule #1 of the masquerade is All contestants must be attending
members of Anime Los Angeles. If the maker and presenter are
different people, both must be attending members. Purchased and
rented costumes may not be entered.

The bodice and skirt combo that was the most prominent piece of
clothing in the entry was purchased from “Leg Avenue Costumes” and is
their “FAUX LEATHER UNDERWIRE LACE UP SIDE BUSTIEA LONG GOWN” (sic).
We have decided that adding streamers to the skirt and a line of trim
to the bottom of the bodice were not significant enough modifications
to comply with the rules.

For full details, please see

<http://community.livejournal.com/animelosangeles/48474.html>

Andy Trembley
Co-director
Anime Los Angeles 2007 Masquerade

 

Group: runacc Message: 1484 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: Another disqualification…
In the Chicago area, there is a young fellow who does Dr. Frankenfurter. He
has done it enough times, and the same folks seem to either be running the
masq’s or judging them, so that the next time he enters, he will, if all goes
well, be in the masq as a Not In Competition.

Henry Osier
Chief Spy
Costume-Con 28 Bid in Milwaukee in 2010
www.SpyBid.org

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1485 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Refunds
Got a question for the folks who have been through the CC ringer in the past.

We’ve just received two seperate requests for a refund on their memberships, due to financial obstacles. One involves 3 members at $255 + Poison Pen is having to back out ($215 – membership + tables). Ouch.

So – what kind of refund policy have you guys had in the past (if any)? Is there a cut off point at which there is no refund?

We didn’t run into this last time, so far as I know. Thoughts?

Bruce

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1486 From: Kevin Roche, CC26 Convention Chair Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: Refunds

Well, we haven’t been through the wringer yet, but I’ve set up reg for
several other meetings and set our CC policy based on that experience:

We have a $25 cancellation fee (that will go up closer to the
convention, and finally there is no refund save for documented actual
emergencies, judged at the discretion of our officers).

We also point out that memberships are 100% transferrable for no fee and
encourage folks to see if someone else wants to buy their membership.

How’s that?

Kevin

Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:

>
> Got a question for the folks who have been through the CC ringer in
> the past.
>
> We’ve just received two seperate requests for a refund on their
> memberships, due to financial obstacles. One involves 3 members at
> $255 + Poison Pen is having to back out ($215 – membership + tables).
> Ouch.
>
> So – what kind of refund policy have you guys had in the past (if
> any)? Is there a cut off point at which there is no refund?
>
> We didn’t run into this last time, so far as I know. Thoughts?
>
> Bruce
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1487 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 2/1/2007
Subject: Re: Refunds

On the one hand, I’m with Kevin on this one. The individual memberships
are transferrable. (I’m proof of that, thanks to Ron and Janice Dallas.)

On the other hand, the latter’s trickier, since dealer space isn’t as
easy to simply swap.

Do you have a dealer waiting list? If so, you could, in theory, arrange
to sell the tables to another dealer and refund the money to Poison
Press on receipt of the money from new dealer.

It’s too hazy now, 10 years down the road, but I’m almost certain we ran
into this exact problem at CCXV, and if I recall correctly, that’s
precisely how we handled it. No replacement, no refund.

If the dealer purchased additional memberships, they should, in theory,
be responsible for locating individuals who want to buy them.

I don’t recall that we set a cancellation policy, since the transfer
option was in place from the beginning.

That’s the policy I’d set, if it were my con.

Your mileage may vary…..

Cheers,

Betsy

Kevin Roche, CC26 Convention Chair wrote:

> Well, we haven’t been through the wringer yet, but I’ve set up reg for
> several other meetings and set our CC policy based on that experience:
>
> We have a $25 cancellation fee (that will go up closer to the
> convention, and finally there is no refund save for documented actual
> emergencies, judged at the discretion of our officers).
>
> We also point out that memberships are 100% transferrable for no fee and
> encourage folks to see if someone else wants to buy their membership.
>
> How’s that?
>
> Kevin



Betsy Delaney

*************************************************************************
See my resume at: http://www.hawkeswood.com/betsywork.shtml
*************************************************************************

 

Group: runacc Message: 1488 From: Les Roth Date: 2/2/2007
Subject: Re: Refunds

Bruce,

We had no requests at CC24 for a refund. Our policy at DemiCon has
been that financial shortfall is not enough of a reason to offer a
refund.

We’ve rolled memberships forward for reasons of illness or
unavoidable schedule conflicts (weddings, graduations, or if we
changed our dates). However I realize that rolling memberships is not
an option for a CC.

Les

Live, never to be ashamed if everything you do is published around the
world. Even if what is published is not true. — Richard Bach

On Feb 1, 2007, at 7:53 PM, Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:

> Got a question for the folks who have been through the CC ringer in
> the past.
>
> We’ve just received two seperate requests for a refund on their
> memberships, due to financial obstacles. One involves 3 members at
> $255 + Poison Pen is having to back out ($215 – membership +
> tables). Ouch.
>
> So – what kind of refund policy have you guys had in the past (if
> any)? Is there a cut off point at which there is no refund?
>
> We didn’t run into this last time, so far as I know. Thoughts?
>
> Bruce
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1489 From: Ricky & Karen Dick Date: 2/2/2007
Subject: Re: Refunds

No refunds if it’s gonna hurt the con.

Memberships can be sold traded transfered whatever, and it’s cool if you help them by posting it, .

Same with the dealers tables .

but with the dealers tables, you’ve said it was a sell out.
IF you have a waiting list, and someone wants them, then give Poison Pen thier money back.

If not, then at the very least wait till after con, see how many thousands in profit you have ( LOL) and grant her a refund if you decide.

but if you’ve been turning people away for her table, and now she wants out, and you can’t resell it, then I don’t see how this close in, you can afford to refund.

Ricky

dealers room co-ordinator cc5 and cc9

—– Original Message —–
From: Bruce & Nora Mai
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:53 PM
Subject: [runacc] Refunds

Got a question for the folks who have been through the CC ringer in the past.

We’ve just received two seperate requests for a refund on their memberships, due to financial obstacles. One involves 3 members at $255 + Poison Pen is having to back out ($215 – membership + tables). Ouch.

So – what kind of refund policy have you guys had in the past (if any)? Is there a cut off point at which there is no refund?

We didn’t run into this last time, so far as I know. Thoughts?

Bruce

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

——————————————————————————

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.18/662 – Release Date: 1/31/2007 3:16 PM

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1490 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 2/4/2007
Subject: CC25 Refund Policy
Below is our transfer & Refund policy as it appears on the website.

www.cc25.net/Policies.htm

“Membership Transfer & Refund Policy:
Transfers
All Memberships are 100% transferable. Members who are unable to
attend
for whatever reason are encouraged to find purchasers for their
memberships.
The original purchaser of the membership is responsible for the
transaction,
making sure that the Membership Coordinator for CC25 receives the new
member’s contact information & that the new member receives all
promotional
materials the original purchaser has already received from the
Convention.
Refunds
Most Conventions do not refund memberships.
However we will consider refunds on a case by case basis. If a refund
is
granted, 50% of your original fee will be retained by the Convention
to
cover costs incurred due to the Member’s cancellation.
No refunds will be granted after February 26, 2007 (30 days prior to
the convention).
Past this date only absolute documented emergencies will be
considered
eligible for a refund.”

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1491 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 2/5/2007
Subject: Re: Photo, video & liability release

On Jan 26, 2007, at 1:01 PM, Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:

> I’ve uploaded some release example that we’re considering for CC25.
> I’d like some feedback, though. Like? Don’t like?
>
> Nora

The release forms we used for ALA are up at:
< http://www.animelosangeles.org/anime-la/2007/masq.pdf>
(page 3 + 4)

Short and simple is better than long and wordy.

The liability release we used is based on boilerplate but I don’t
remember where I found it.

The photo release is based on boilerplate supplied by a lawyer to a
professional photographer’s forum. For photo releases, it’s important
that the release indicates that license is given in exchange for
something (even if that “something” is just the right to participate
in the masquerade). Damned if I understand why, but I’ve heard this
from several lawyers.

The last bit is to stifle drama.


andy trembley, Bitchy Design Queen – http://www.bovil.com/

Play Internet Argument-Losing Bingo!
<http://www.shortpacked.com/d/20060405.html>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1492 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 2/5/2007
Subject: Re: Photo, video & liability release

Jam it all together and it looks like the same length.

Bruce

—– Original Message —–
From: Andrew T Trembley
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: [runacc] Photo, video & liability release

On Jan 26, 2007, at 1:01 PM, Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:
> I’ve uploaded some release example that we’re considering for CC25.
> I’d like some feedback, though. Like? Don’t like?
>
> Nora

The release forms we used for ALA are up at:
< http://www.animelosangeles.org/anime-la/2007/masq.pdf>
(page 3 + 4)

Short and simple is better than long and wordy.

The liability release we used is based on boilerplate but I don’t
remember where I found it.

The photo release is based on boilerplate supplied by a lawyer to a
professional photographer’s forum. For photo releases, it’s important
that the release indicates that license is given in exchange for
something (even if that “something” is just the right to participate
in the masquerade). Damned if I understand why, but I’ve heard this
from several lawyers.

The last bit is to stifle drama.


andy trembley, Bitchy Design Queen – http://www.bovil.com/

Play Internet Argument-Losing Bingo!
<http://www.shortpacked.com/d/20060405.html>

View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
Yahoo! Groups Links

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1493 From: Martin Gear Date: 2/6/2007
Subject: Re: Photo, video & liability release

Andrew T Trembley wrote:

>
> On Jan 26, 2007, at 1:01 PM, Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:
> > I’ve uploaded some release example that we’re considering for CC25.
> > I’d like some feedback, though. Like? Don’t like?
> >
> > Nora
>
> The release forms we used for ALA are up at:
> < http://www.animelosangeles.org/anime-la/2007/masq.pdf
> <http://www.animelosangeles.org/anime-la/2007/masq.pdf>>
> (page 3 + 4)
>
> Short and simple is better than long and wordy.
>
> The liability release we used is based on boilerplate but I don’t
> remember where I found it.
>
> The photo release is based on boilerplate supplied by a lawyer to a
> professional photographer’s forum. For photo releases, it’s important
> that the release indicates that license is given in exchange for
> something (even if that “something” is just the right to participate
> in the masquerade). Damned if I understand why, but I’ve heard this
> from several lawyers.
>

> *I**t is called “consideration” and is a basic part of U.S. common and
> commercial law. No contract or license is valid without consideration
> being given in exchange for whatever. (And that’s from basic contract
> law courses taken 40+ years ago.)*
>

^M^

>
> MARTY –
>

> The last bit is to stifle drama.
>
> andy trembley, Bitchy Design Queen – http://www.bovil.com/
> <http://www.bovil.com/>
>
> Play Internet Argument-Losing Bingo!
> <http://www.shortpacked.com/d/20060405.html
> <http://www.shortpacked.com/d/20060405.html>>
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1494 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 2/6/2007
Subject: call for readers…
<http://bovil.livejournal.com/241271.html>

Anybody willing to look this over for me? Particularly folks who are
running CC masquerades?


andy trembley, Bitchy Design Queen – http://www.bovil.com/
San Jose, CA – ’72 R75/5 ’86 R100 (mine) – ’92 K75sa ’03 R1150R
(Kevin’s)
…remaining .sig trimmed for better message/.sig ratio

 

Group: runacc Message: 1495 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 2/6/2007
Subject: Re: Photo, video & liability release

At 07:56 PM 2/5/2007, you wrote:

>On Jan 26, 2007, at 1:01 PM, Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:
> > I’ve uploaded some release example that we’re considering for CC25.
> > I’d like some feedback, though. Like? Don’t like?
> >
> > Nora
>
>The release forms we used for ALA are up at:
>< http://www.animelosangeles.org/anime-la/2007/masq.pdf>
>(page 3 + 4)
>
>Short and simple is better than long and wordy.
>
>The liability release we used is based on boilerplate but I don’t
>remember where I found it.
>
>The photo release is based on boilerplate supplied by a lawyer to a
>professional photographer’s forum. For photo releases, it’s important
>that the release indicates that license is given in exchange for
>something (even if that “something” is just the right to participate
>in the masquerade). Damned if I understand why, but I’ve heard this
>from several lawyers.

Not being a lawyer, I’ll hazard a guess. Its likely that, since the
signer is being asked to give up something (in this case the photo
rights) it becomes a contract. I believe to be valid, a contract
requires a quid pro quo, in this case the right to participate in the
masquerade.

Pierre

>The last bit is to stifle drama.
>
>–
>andy trembley, Bitchy Design Queen – http://www.bovil.com/
>
>Play Internet Argument-Losing Bingo!
><http://www.shortpacked.com/d/20060405.html>
>
>
>
>View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

“Those Who Fail To Learn History
Are Doomed to Repeat It;
Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly —
Why They Are Simply Doomed.

Achemdro’hm
“The Illusion of Historical Fact”
— C.Y. 4971

Andromeda

 

Group: runacc Message: 1496 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 2/6/2007
Subject: Re: call for readers…

Don’t forget video – at least a fixed camera for convention and ICG archives.

Pierre

At 07:40 PM 2/6/2007, you wrote:

><http://bovil.livejournal.com/241271.html>
>
>Anybody willing to look this over for me? Particularly folks who are
>running CC masquerades?
>
>–
>andy trembley, Bitchy Design Queen – http://www.bovil.com/
>San Jose, CA – ’72 R75/5 ’86 R100 (mine) – ’92 K75sa ’03 R1150R
>(Kevin’s)
>…remaining .sig trimmed for better message/.sig ratio

“Those Who Fail To Learn History
Are Doomed to Repeat It;
Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly —
Why They Are Simply Doomed.

Achemdro’hm
“The Illusion of Historical Fact”
— C.Y. 4971

Andromeda

 

Group: runacc Message: 1497 From: Elaine Mami Date: 2/10/2007
Subject: Re: call for readers…

Andy,

Sorry, but I can’t read it.

Elaine

Nil significat nisi oscillat!

>
><http://bovil.livejournal.com/241271.html>
>
>Anybody willing to look this over for me? Particularly folks who are
>running CC masquerades?
>
>–
>andy trembley, Bitchy Design Queen – http://www.bovil.com/
>San Jose, CA – ’72 R75/5 ’86 R100 (mine) – ’92 K75sa ’03 R1150R
>(Kevin’s)
>…remaining .sig trimmed for better message/.sig ratio
>

_________________________________________________________________
Don�t miss your chance to WIN 10 hours of private jet travel from Microsoft
Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0540002499mrt/direct/01/

 

Group: runacc Message: 1498 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 3/16/2007
Subject: Costume-ConNections web site updated…
I just posted changes to the Costume-Con/nections/ web site. You may be
interested in reading the message on the home page.

http://costume-con.org/index.shtml

I’m going to curl up and go to sleep now.

Cheers,

Betsy


Betsy Delaney

*************************************************************************
See my resume at: http://www.hawkeswood.com/betsywork.shtml
*************************************************************************

Yahoo! Groups Links



Betsy Delaney

*************************************************************************
See my resume at: http://www.hawkeswood.com/betsywork.shtml
*************************************************************************

 

Group: runacc Message: 1499 From: Byron Connell Date: 3/24/2007
Subject: Off to Costume-Con 25
We leave for Costume-Con 25 tomorrow and will be out of E-mail touch until April 9, so I’m signing off for now.

If I don’t see you at the con, I’ll be back in a couple of weeks.

Byron

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1500 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 4/3/2007
Subject: Back from CC25
So we got back home somewhere around 11:30 today, after having one more look around the hotel before we checked out.

Overall, from feedback we’ve received, we did pretty good. Also, even without looking at the books yet, we did better than break even. Keep an eye on the D list over the next few days for posts regarding what went one. I think we’ll hold off on making a full post-con report until after our post-mortem meeting in about 3 weeks, which will include what we thought worked as well as what didn’t.

For now, we’re satisfied we did the best job we could and it seemed to pay off.

FYI, there’s been some good postings on Cosplay.com as well.

Bruce

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

 

Yahoo Archive: Page 29 of 67

 

Messages in runacc group. Page 29 of 67.

Group: runacc Message: 1401 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 4/30/2006
Subject: Re: Folio Publishing (Moving this over to RUNACC-was Re: [ICG-D]
Group: runacc Message: 1402 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 5/1/2006
Subject: Re: Folio Publishing
Group: runacc Message: 1403 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 5/1/2006
Subject: Re: Folio Publishing (Moving this over to RUNACC-was Re: [ICG-D] R
Group: runacc Message: 1404 From: bruno Date: 5/2/2006
Subject: Re: Folio Publishing (Moving this over to RUNACC-was Re: [ICG-D] Re
Group: runacc Message: 1405 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 5/2/2006
Subject: Re: Folio Publishing (Moving this over to RUNACC-was Re: [ICG-D] Re
Group: runacc Message: 1406 From: Trudy Leonard Date: 5/2/2006
Subject: Re: Folio Publishing (Moving this over to RUNACC-was Re: [ICG-D] Re
Group: runacc Message: 1407 From: srabba Date: 5/10/2006
Subject: Last call for CC24 program book ads
Group: runacc Message: 1408 From: srabba Date: 5/10/2006
Subject: Where to send ads
Group: runacc Message: 1409 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 5/10/2006
Subject: Re: Where to send ads
Group: runacc Message: 1410 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 5/10/2006
Subject: Re: Where to send ads
Group: runacc Message: 1411 From: srabba Date: 6/1/2006
Subject: Lessons Learned CC-24
Group: runacc Message: 1412 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 6/1/2006
Subject: The SLCG “committee” review part I
Group: runacc Message: 1413 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 6/1/2006
Subject: The “Committee Review”, part II
Group: runacc Message: 1414 From: bruno Date: 6/1/2006
Subject: Re: The “Committee Review”, part II
Group: runacc Message: 1415 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 6/2/2006
Subject: Re: Lessons Learned CC-24
Group: runacc Message: 1416 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 6/3/2006
Subject: Re: Lessons Learned CC-24 – FFS
Group: runacc Message: 1417 From: Andrew Trembley Date: 6/4/2006
Subject: Re: Lessons Learned CC-24 – FFS
Group: runacc Message: 1418 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 6/4/2006
Subject: Re: Lessons Learned CC-24 – FFS
Group: runacc Message: 1419 From: Ricky & Karen Dick Date: 6/4/2006
Subject: Re: Lessons Learned CC-24 – FFS
Group: runacc Message: 1420 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 6/4/2006
Subject: Re: Lessons Learned CC-24 – FFS
Group: runacc Message: 1421 From: Kevin Roche Date: 6/4/2006
Subject: Re: Lessons Learned CC-24 – FFS
Group: runacc Message: 1422 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 6/4/2006
Subject: Re: Lessons Learned CC-24 – FFS
Group: runacc Message: 1423 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 6/10/2006
Subject: Cell Phone policy
Group: runacc Message: 1424 From: bruno Date: 6/10/2006
Subject: Re: Cell Phone policy
Group: runacc Message: 1425 From: Martin Gear Date: 6/11/2006
Subject: Re: Cell Phone policy
Group: runacc Message: 1426 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 6/11/2006
Subject: Re: Cell Phone policy
Group: runacc Message: 1427 From: Tina Date: 6/11/2006
Subject: Re: Cell Phone policy
Group: runacc Message: 1428 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 6/12/2006
Subject: Re: Cell Phone policy
Group: runacc Message: 1429 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 6/13/2006
Subject: Re: Cell Phone policy
Group: runacc Message: 1430 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 6/20/2006
Subject: CC21 FFF’s!
Group: runacc Message: 1431 From: John O’Halloran Date: 6/20/2006
Subject: Re: Cell Phone policy
Group: runacc Message: 1432 From: Ricky & Karen Dick Date: 7/1/2006
Subject: Costume-Con Service Mark Update
Group: runacc Message: 1433 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 7/1/2006
Subject: Re: Costume-Con Service Mark Update
Group: runacc Message: 1434 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 7/1/2006
Subject: Re: Costume-Con Service Mark Update
Group: runacc Message: 1435 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 7/12/2006
Subject: Linkage…
Group: runacc Message: 1436 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 7/15/2006
Subject: Re: Linkage…
Group: runacc Message: 1437 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 7/15/2006
Subject: Re: Linkage…
Group: runacc Message: 1438 From: Ricky & Karen Dick Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Talking about CC memberships
Group: runacc Message: 1439 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Re: Talking about CC memberships
Group: runacc Message: 1440 From: Andrew Trembley Date: 8/13/2006
Subject: Re: [ICG-D] Registration behavior questoni
Group: runacc Message: 1441 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 8/13/2006
Subject: Uniflyers
Group: runacc Message: 1442 From: Andrew Trembley Date: 8/13/2006
Subject: Re: Uniflyers
Group: runacc Message: 1443 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 8/13/2006
Subject: Re: Uniflyers
Group: runacc Message: 1444 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 8/13/2006
Subject: More registration behavior info
Group: runacc Message: 1445 From: Andrew Trembley Date: 8/14/2006
Subject: Re: More registration behavior info
Group: runacc Message: 1446 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 8/14/2006
Subject: Re: More registration behavior info
Group: runacc Message: 1447 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 9/7/2006
Subject: Costume-Con 25 FFF Results
Group: runacc Message: 1448 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 9/28/2006
Subject: A reminder to folks when selecting official photographers…
Group: runacc Message: 1449 From: Kevin Roche Date: 10/6/2006
Subject: Announcing Costume-Con 26 Hotel and Room Rates
Group: runacc Message: 1450 From: John O’Halloran Date: 10/7/2006
Subject: Re: Announcing Costume-Con 26 Hotel and Room Rates

 


 

Group: runacc Message: 1401 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 4/30/2006
Subject: Re: Folio Publishing (Moving this over to RUNACC-was Re: [ICG-D]

Hey, Pierre!

That might be unnecessary. I recall that Carl already scanned in quite a
few (in theory). Or, at least, I think so.

Do you have that part of the Archives yet?

Cheers,

Betsy

Pierre & Sandy Pettinger wrote:

> At 08:41 PM 4/29/2006, you wrote:
>
> I have a complete set of folios. I’ve been planning to scan them in.
> I’ll try to do that this summer and send you the files. Then you can
> print extras if some disappear.
>
> Pierre
>
>>In a message dated 4/29/2006 8:34:00 PM Central Standard Time,
>>bruno@soulmasque.com writes:
>>
>>>Just make sure you keep an eye on them or chain them to a table. I don’t
>>>have any folios prior to CC23 because I used to take them to fan
>>
>>tables, and
>>
>>>they were all stolen.
>>>
>>>Michael
>>
>>I think I have extras from CC21. I will find out tomorrow. Let me know if you
>>would like one.
>>Henry
>
>
> “Those Who Fail To Learn History
> Are Doomed to Repeat It;
> Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly —
> Why They Are Simply Doomed.
>
> Achemdro’hm
> “The Illusion of Historical Fact”
> — C.Y. 4971
>
> Andromeda
>
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



Betsy Delaney
*************************************************************************
http://www.hawkeswood.com/ * http://www.OutOftheBlackBox.org/
http://www.BarkingMad.org/ * http://www.sickpups.org/
http://www.Costume-Con.org/ * http://www.SchoolWithoutWalls.org/
*************************************************************************

 

Group: runacc Message: 1402 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 5/1/2006
Subject: Re: Folio Publishing

On Apr 29, 2006, at 6:33 PM, bruno wrote:

> Just make sure you keep an eye on them or chain them to a table. I
> don’t have any folios prior to CC23 because I used to take them to fan
> tables, and they were all stolen.

I’m thinking that taking them to Kinkos, having them drilled for a
binder, and sticking them in binders, while a bit bulky would
discourage theft. The comb-bound editions would be particularly easy to
deal with; drill ’em and pull the comb and they would lay flat in
binders nicely.

If there are any boxes of spare copies of old folios floating around,
it might be a good idea to bring to Des Moines; I know a few of us
would like extra copies for promotional purposes.


andy trembley, Bitchy Design Queen
http://www.irlm.org/ – mailto:webmaster@irlm.org
“Anybody who takes this seriously deserves to”
— Donna Barr

 

Group: runacc Message: 1403 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 5/1/2006
Subject: Re: Folio Publishing (Moving this over to RUNACC-was Re: [ICG-D] R

At 07:26 PM 4/30/2006, you wrote:

>Hey, Pierre!
>
>That might be unnecessary. I recall that Carl already scanned in quite a
>few (in theory). Or, at least, I think so.
>
>Do you have that part of the Archives yet?

Actually, I have very little of the archives yet. I believe Carl
plans to bring a lot of it to me at CC since they are driving and
we’re only 3 hours from there.

Pierre

>Cheers,
>
>Betsy
>

“Those Who Fail To Learn History
Are Doomed to Repeat It;
Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly —
Why They Are Simply Doomed.

Achemdro’hm
“The Illusion of Historical Fact”
— C.Y. 4971

Andromeda

 

Group: runacc Message: 1404 From: bruno Date: 5/2/2006
Subject: Re: Folio Publishing (Moving this over to RUNACC-was Re: [ICG-D] Re

Thank you Henry and Trudy for the offers of Fashion Folios, although I never had those, I would like to get them. The ones I miss the most are the ones that I actually had designs published in.

If the offer still stands, I’d be happy to pick them up at CC and save on the postage.

Michael

> ——-Original Message——-
> From: osierhenry@cs.com

> Michael,
> I just located the extra FFF from CC21. I have plenty of extras. Send
> me your mailing address and I will get one out to you in the mail this week.
> As soon as I get a count on them, in a few days, I will make them
> available to archives, then anyone in this group.
> Henry

 

Group: runacc Message: 1405 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 5/2/2006
Subject: Re: Folio Publishing (Moving this over to RUNACC-was Re: [ICG-D] Re

In a message dated 5/1/2006 11:19:42 PM Central Standard Time,
bruno@soulmasque.com writes:

> If the offer still stands, I’d be happy to pick them up at CC and save on
> the postage.

I’ll bring all the surplus ones I have for us in this group. Remember to use
our secret handshake when greeting each other!
Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1406 From: Trudy Leonard Date: 5/2/2006
Subject: Re: Folio Publishing (Moving this over to RUNACC-was Re: [ICG-D] Re

The four of us are road-tripping up, so I should be able to stick a box of
them in the van. You’re welcome to as many as you’d like and anyone else is
invited to take them as well.

Trudy

>From: “bruno” <bruno@soulmasque.com>
>Reply-To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
>To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [runacc] Folio Publishing (Moving this over to RUNACC-was Re:
>[ICG-D] Rep…
>Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 04:18:53 +0000
>
>Thank you Henry and Trudy for the offers of Fashion Folios, although I
>never had those, I would like to get them. The ones I miss the most are
>the ones that I actually had designs published in.
>
>If the offer still stands, I’d be happy to pick them up at CC and save on
>the postage.
>
>
>Michael
>
>
> > ——-Original Message——-
> > From: osierhenry@cs.com
>
> > Michael,
> > I just located the extra FFF from CC21. I have plenty of extras.
>Send
> > me your mailing address and I will get one out to you in the mail this
>week.
> > As soon as I get a count on them, in a few days, I will make
>them
> > available to archives, then anyone in this group.
> > Henry

 

Group: runacc Message: 1407 From: srabba Date: 5/10/2006
Subject: Last call for CC24 program book ads
Greetings,

This is the final opportunity to get an ad in CC-24’s program book.
We need the ads ASAP as in no later than Friday 5/12. At this time
we only have one ad from the costume community and that is for the
Milwaukee CC-28 bid. Here are the particulars.

Page size 8.5″ X 5″
Cost
$100 full page
$50 half page

Payment options
PayPal email finance@epicmovies.org

Check
Costume-Con 24
PO Box 7572
Des Moines, IA 50323-7572

Sallie

 

Group: runacc Message: 1408 From: srabba Date: 5/10/2006
Subject: Where to send ads
Hello again,

I forgot to mention where to send the ad to. At this point we need
electronic format, either word, .pdf or a standard graphic format such
as, .jpg, etc. Send to gsabba@worldnet.att.net.

Thanks,
Sallie

 

Group: runacc Message: 1409 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 5/10/2006
Subject: Re: Where to send ads

What’s the deadline?

Bruce

—– Original Message —–
From: “srabba” <gsabba@att.net>
To: <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 10:01 AM
Subject: [runacc] Where to send ads

> Hello again,
>
> I forgot to mention where to send the ad to. At this point we need
> electronic format, either word, .pdf or a standard graphic format such
> as, .jpg, etc. Send to gsabba@worldnet.att.net.
>
> Thanks,
> Sallie
>
>
>
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1410 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 5/10/2006
Subject: Re: Where to send ads

And in what format/size?

Nora

—– Original Message —–
From: “srabba” <gsabba@att.net>
To: <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 10:01 AM
Subject: [runacc] Where to send ads

> Hello again,
>
> I forgot to mention where to send the ad to. At this point we need
> electronic format, either word, .pdf or a standard graphic format such
> as, .jpg, etc. Send to gsabba@worldnet.att.net.
>
> Thanks,
> Sallie
>
>
>
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1411 From: srabba Date: 6/1/2006
Subject: Lessons Learned CC-24
Hello all,

Bruce Mai asked for “lessons learned” from the CC-24 staff and I’d
like to share some of my observations. He also requested the cross
post to runacc and CC-25. There’s only 55 days before we return to
the Hotel Fort Des Moines for the start of DemiCon, so there isn’t as
much time to process and analyze, as I’d like, so this may be a bit
rambled and disjointed, but I better get to this before DemiCon
demands take over my brain.

Please feel free to ask questions or for clarification on any of my
comments or any other CC-24 related topics. Other staff may have
different thoughts and observations that I hope they find time to
share with you too. We did some things well and some things we could
have done better I’ll try and point out both.

First lesson is – it is never too early – After our bid was
officially accepted we did contact some people and businesses.
Understandably they were unable to make a firm commitment 3+ years
out so we decided to hold off on further contacts until a little
later. However, in some cases, things went from too early to
suddenly being too late. If I were to do it again I would make all
the contacts I could think of as early as possible and keep a
spreadsheet of when to check back. I’d also do regular email updates
with these contacts (or postcards for those without email) probably
once a quarter or so. Nothing fancy just something to keep Costume-
Con on their radar screen so they didn’t forget and book something
else between the personal contacts.

We needed a program co-director who was better known in costuming
circles. I’m glad we had a local person chairing the program because
we could take advantage of local resources, but we were at a
disadvantage when contacting the costume community. For costume
clubs hosting a Costume-Con this probably would end up being one and
the same person. However, since our club is not a costuming
organization that wasn’t an option for us. Things turned out okay,
but it was a struggle at times for our program director when
contacting those in the costuming community. The problem was two
fold. One, knowing who to contact for various topics and two, the
comfort level of those contacted with someone they really didn’t know.

One thing that caught us by surprise was the issue of tag-a-longs.
By that I mean there were spouses, significant others, friends, etc.
that weren’t costumers, but wanted to “tag-a-long” at times during
the convention. These folks wanted some sort of special rate since
they wouldn’t technically be participating at the convention just
watching. We did not make special accommodations for tag-a-longs.
It was hard to turn away folks willing to give us money, but it
seemed unfair to those that had already purchased memberships to
create a new option so late in the process. Future CCs might want to
consider whether a tag-a-long rate is appropriate. We did not badge
the display lobby, and in fact we encouraged the curious to visit the
dealers and look at the display costumes. In some cases this
resulted in ticket sales.

While I’m talking about it here’s our rate structure for those that
might be curious.
$65 – 4/2003 – 12/2003
$75 – 1/2004 – 12/2004
$85 – 1/2005 – 12/2005
$95 Full weekend $40 for kids 5 – 12 (starting 1/1/2006)
$40 – one-day memberships for Friday, Saturday and Sunday. One-days
included the evening show or event. ($20 children 5 – 12)
$25 – Monday only membership. This was more a formality for
insurance purposes. I don’t believe we sold any.
$10 – Masquerade tickets $5 children 5 –12. Entry into show only did
not include access to ConSuite. We didn’t plan on selling tickets to
the FFS, but had requests and ended up selling 6 at $5 each.
$250 Family membership (2 adults, 2 or more children) this rate was
for immediate families only and not for extended, or faux families.
$125 Dealer package included one table and one membership.
$75 per additional dealer tables

We did not promote our family membership mostly to avoid any issues
these types of packages tend to invite. We had a local family with
three kids ask if there was a family rate. Our intention was that a
nuclear family (as in parents and children) would not have to pay
more than $250 to attend CC-24. Perhaps we should have been braver
and promoted this option more.

We did not have a policy for badge loaning. It was only briefly a
concern at CC-24 and goes along with the tag-a-long problem. Future
committees might want to think about what they want to do about the
issue.

I am glad we decided to sell show tickets for the masquerades. This
was a help with tag-a-longs and we also sold some to the general
public. I don’t have an exact count of the show tickets sold, but do
believe it was over $100. Worth the effort at least.

We should have used a presenter’s form for our panelists, one that
listed equipment needed, etc. A form would have standardized
requests and reminded panelist to let us know what they needed in a
timely matter. We managed to cover most everything, but a
presenter’s form might have saved us a minor bump or two.

There were a couple of double booking issues with the schedule.
Partly because of a last minute shuffle of panels and partly because
we didn’t complete some communication loops. Confirmation emails
were to go out to panelist, but not everyone confirmed their
schedules. We should have been more thorough in double-checking
after every shift in the schedule. Also, I don’t think we made note
of things like who the MC for the shows were and who the judges and
judges’ liaisons were. Not sure if that was a contributing factor in
double booking or not, but it was certainly something we needed to
know and keep track of better.

It worked out well for us to have 15 minutes between panels. This
gave panelists time to set up and tear down. It also gave
participants time to make a bathroom stop or visit the ConSuite. It
did mean we burned some potential programming time, but I think the
trade off was worth it. I’d be curious to hear other opinions.

Collecting announcements for the shows and events at registration
worked well. To my knowledge there were no requested announcements
or awards that were over looked. In most cases the MCs also provided
opportunity for announcements to come from the floor just in case
we’d forgotten or missed something also a good plan.

We stumbled into an opportunity to do a service project rather late
into things. We decided to go ahead and offer the project to the
attendees anyway. We were able to complete 46 trauma dolls used to
aid hospitals and EMS personnel when interacting with children.
Participants also cut, sewed and turned several more in preparation
for other organizations to work on. The trauma doll organizers were
thrilled. There were some attendees who took patterns and contact
information to start similar programs in their local area. It was
nice to have a chance to do for others and make a difference in the
community at large. I just wish we’d found out about the program
sooner so we could have included information in the program book and
on the schedule. This is also the sort of activity that generates
good publicity too.

Budget concerns directed some of our choices. For instance we
elected to print the schedule and hotel map in the program book
rather than as a separate publication. Also along the same line we
chose not to publish bios of the panelists thus saving several pages
in the program book. Money was only part of the decision for just
listing names of panelists. There was also the logistics of
collecting all the necessary information. It became apparent that we
weren’t going to be able to gather information on all the
participants in time for publication; another point for it is never
too early.

We also didn’t print a food guide. Fortunately we have a local paper
that publishes a free dining/activity guide including a map.

We were very conservative on the number of program books we ordered.
We did print a one-page schedule that we used for one-day memberships
on Saturday especially so we wouldn’t run out of the books too soon.
We did get more at-the-door memberships than we had expected.

One of our best assets was the Hotel Fort Des Moines; we are
fortunate to have an established and an on going relationship with a
very classy facility. We also had the luxury of space to burn. This
allowed us to offer a workroom, discussion room and a video room
without compromising program potential. We were also able to provide
a rehearsal space that matched the stage size for participants to
practice their presentations. Not every Costume-Con will have these
options because of space limitations in available (and affordable)
facilities. However, I’m glad we were able to offer them and I know
they were all used at various times during the weekend.

Video room – Because we had the extra space we decided to set up a
video room for the weekend. We had a number of epic movies to show
and the plan was to view the masquerade videos after the shows here
too. Unfortunately there was some miscommunication and we were only
able to run the SF show once on Saturday and didn’t get a chance to
run the Historical or FFS. The video room could also be an option
for tag-a-longs and possibly children’s programming too. Again not
every facility will have the extra space to provide an on going video
room, but if the space is available I think it can be a useful
service.

Judges Chambers – The hotel layout allowed us to provide a room for
judges for the weekend. Judges for all the shows were able to use the
room for deliberation, storage and pre-judging for the Historical
Masquerade. We set up a computer and printer to generate
certificates on demand. This arrangement worked very well especially
after we oriented our judges’ tech so he knew what content to include
on the certificates.

Having computers and printers on site was extremely useful. We
printed the programs for the masquerades as needed and we were able
to provide entry forms and release forms on demand. Once all the
participant data was entered into our database we could generate
specific forms for the MC, judges, tech crew, green room and any
other reports necessary. This saved us the expense and time of
running out for copies. It also allowed us to make corrections and
additions right up to the last minute. We did have a last minute
addition to the Historical masquerade and I’m glad we were able to
accommodate the entry and include the entry information on the
program.

I’d just like to thank the MDs for being flexible and understanding
with first time Costumers who were unfamiliar with the usual
procedures.

We used a digital camera and photo printer to take judges’ photos in
the green room. Finding film for a Polaroid camera is increasingly
difficult not to mention expensive. The digital camera arrangement
seemed to work well. The photos are larger and clearer too as a
bonus.

On line masquerade registration – Les developed a system that allowed
attendees to enter the masquerades on line. All the forms and
releases were there as well as space to request lighting and other
technical assistance. They could return and edit their entries and
even up load their music. Masquerade Directors could view all the
entries in their show, but participants could only view their own
information. We did have some entries use the system and it seemed
to work fine. I think there is a lot of potential for this system
especially if we could get more people to use it. It would certainly
make planning for necessary tech time easier if we knew in advance
how many potential entries to expect.

I personally really enjoyed the runway layout for the FFS and I also
appreciated showing the sketches of the designs in the show as well
as some of the winning designs that weren’t represented in the show.
I thought these arrangements really allowed the audience to get a
good look at the designs and to get an appreciation for the folio
process in general. The layout provided nearly three times the front
row space as the masquerade stage layout. However, this is just the
perspective of someone who was watching the show and I’ve no idea how
this layout worked for the participants of the show. I do know that
there wasn’t sufficient time for the participants to get a full
rehearsal on the stage. I don’t know why that was, but even so
things seemed to go just wonderfully.

Because of the gambling laws in Iowa we couldn’t hold a raffle as
some Costume-Cons in the past have had. We put together a creative
fundraiser selling stars for the Walk-of-Fame. I don’t have final
figures yet, but we did sell one Studio Mogul package and 4 or 5
other stars as well as several “star tails” which came with
individual tickets. Most people declined to take their star tail and
just took the tickets.

Tech Crew Seal of Approval Award came about as recognition for the
entry that makes the most of their time with the tech crew. Our tech
crew has done tech at several venues. We’ve also competed in various
masquerades. One thing we’ve come to realize is there is some times
an incorrect perception that some participants have of the purpose of
Tech Rehearsal. This is actually a rehearsal for the tech crew not
for the entry. Entries should show up with their music ready to go,
with a stage movement presentation, and with any props and/or large
or awkward costume pieces such as masks, hats, shoes etc. It is also
very helpful for the lighting crew if some part of the costume is
present so the optimum lighting can be determined. We thought a tech
award would help raise awareness of the need for participants to be
prepared and make the most of their tech time. As it happened this
year nearly every entry was mostly prepared. I still think the award
is a good way to raise awareness about what makes for a good tech
check and consequently a good presentation.

Suggestions for future shows, please schedule tech checks to end by
5:00 pm or 5:30 pm at the latest. This is important for several
reasons. First and foremost it gives everyone time for dinner, the
tech crew, contestants, MDs, etc. It also allows time to fix any
glitches that might become evident during the checks. If for some
reason tech checks have to run past 5:30 then plan to have food
brought into you tech, stage and masquerade crew.

Masquerade directors please, please, please do the math. We’ve had
the unenviable task of starting tech checks over 2 hours behind
schedule because there were 30 plus entries each promised a ten-
minute slot between 1 and 4. That’s nearly twice the number of
entries for the time allotted. You want to talk about stress. Yikes!

The scheduling of tech checks also illustrates how important it is
for entries to pre-register rather than waiting until at the Con to
do so. It is much easier to collapse extra time than it is to try
and find extra time.

If at all possible arrange rehearsal space for entries to practice
their presentations. Sometimes there isn’t an opportunity for an
entry to practice their presentation prior to arriving at the
convention. This is particularly true for a Costume-Con where
members of an entry may be from all over the country. However, it
still isn’t fair to the other entries in a show to allow one or two
to monopolize the tech crew’s time for their own rehearsal. CC-24
made sure to have space set aside for participants to practice their
presentations. This helps the tech checks proceed efficiently and to
stay on time.

There were lots of other things we would have liked to do, but budget
constraints dictated otherwise. I won’t go into all the money
optional things since this has already been a much longer discourse
than I’d imagined when I started. I hope future committees are able
to glean a few useful things. I know we certainly took advantage of
these forums to minimize the number of wheels we had to reinvent.

Running CC-24 was a privilege and a pleasure. I’m looking forward to
CC-25 and beyond.

Sallie

 

Group: runacc Message: 1412 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 6/1/2006
Subject: The SLCG “committee” review part I
Good info on the Sallie’s e-mail. Some of it answers questions we had. But otherwise, here’s what we made a note of on the way home – the “wart’s and all” version. We will post this in several other places, albeit in altered form. You guys the unfiltered version. 🙂

Hotel

a.. We liked it, except for their inconsistent AC issues, particularly in the function space area -usually freezing.
b.. Elevators were relatively fast, despite one apparently not in service – at least they had a freight elevator for our attendees needing wheelchair access
c.. The Staff was very friendly, attentive and quick with towel requests for our room
d.. Interestingly, every room in the hotel seemed to have a different layout. The extra closets in the suite we had was a very nice surprise.
e.. While a nice hotel, we’ve never been in favor of downtown hotels because many retail businesses are not open – especially over a Memorial Day weekend.
f.. Very nice facilities, including treadmills, a lap pool, hot tub and a sauna(!)

Registration

a.. This appeared to be well-organized and quick. We appreciated the fact that they had pre-reg packets ready to pick up on Thursday evening.

Doll Show competition

a.. According to those who entered this event, it was very disorganized.
b.. There were no signs identifying what the dolls entries were
c.. The judges were trying to do their job right there in the dealers’ room while the public was walking by, which was distracting.
d.. There was no way for the entrants to give any explanation to the judges about what they did

Costume Exhibits

a.. While costumes from the local area were represented, there did not appear to be any attempts made to recruit from any other region. This is not necessarily bad, but the fact that there were so few pieces, we found Exhibits lacking.

Dealers Room

a.. This was the biggest disappointment – the number of dealers were very few and lacked depth – if you were not interested in jewelry or hats, you were out of luck.

Friday Night Social

a.. Everybody seemed to have a good time, and almost everyone made an attempt to wear a theme-appropriate costume.
b.. Some didn’t like the announced entrance through the curtains, but if you were clueless, you could avoid it by going through a different set of doors.
c.. If the intention was for the music background to add to the Film theme, it didn’t succeed very well. As far as we know most of the selections were not from soundtracks. Also, the selections didn’t build momentum in the party, going from one danceable, then grinding to a halt with some orchestral piece immediately after.
d.. The social featured a pretty nice spread for hors d’ oeuvres, but we would have liked to see some sort of protein beyond the fruits, vegetables and sweets (which were pretty tasty, nonetheless). We understand that there’s the implication of providing a meal that the con staff might want to avoid, but some thinly sliced meats would have been nice, along with something for those who like salty snacks – crackers and pretzels would have been enough.
e.. We were surprised by the presence of the cash bar. This was not a negative, but we did hear complaints of the price of the drinks.

Programming

a.. Possibly due to anticipated low attendance, panel programming seemed limited in scope because of panelist availability.
b.. At least for our part, there were issues with overscheduling of panelists. We realize that the staff were trying to accommodate our schedule, but there were conflicts where our appearances overlapped.
c.. Maybe other attendees liked the format, but we were not fans of the 1 ¼ hour panels.
d.. We were not fans of the lunch break on Saturday, either, but the panelists themselves definitely needed breaks to eat.
e.. That being said, the panels we observed were mostly well attended. There was only one cancellation and one where there was no audience for the panelist.
f.. The roundtable discussions continued to show that they work as a different format from the usual “talking head” panels. We had some great discussions with people we didn’t know and by the end, we knew them better. Good personal stories.
g.. Informative panels included Turkish Ottoman, the Makeup and Hair panel, and Asian-themed clothing.
h.. On a separate note, having the annual meeting of the ICG on Friday morning, before most of the programming began, was a good idea – it allowed more people the opportunity to attend and enjoy the rest of the con.
i.. One thing that irked a few people was a panel that appeared to just be an opportunity for the panelist to promote the products they sold through their business. This probably would have not been an issue if the description of the panel had been up front about it.
j.. Having blown up versions of the con schedule posted on the walls of thehotel was a good thing. We thought having it published in the back of the program book was inconvenient if you didn’t want to carry the program book around.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1413 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 6/1/2006
Subject: The “Committee Review”, part II
SF & F Masquerade

a.. This show had an unusually large number of entries in proportion to the number of convention attendees (more than CC16, among others, which had more people on site). And yet, the number of participants did not outnumber the audience.
b.. There were no unusually long pauses in the show, which was good.
c.. The MC, Pierre Pettinger, had a great inside gag costume, making his entrance as Moses carrying “tablets” with the 32 costuming commandments (do we know what those are?)
d.. We noted that there were one or two cases where a participant should maybe have been encouraged to “compete up” a level to have made it more fair to the rest of the entrants.
e.. As far as flow was concerned, though, there seemed to be too many presentations that ran way over the recommended 60 second time limit. Lip-synching was popular for this year, for some reason. And these were not just Novices doing this.
f.. While there’s no reason they can’t present an award, did anyone else notice the irony of a free membership to the Greater Bay Area Costumers Guild – which is no longer a chapter of the ICG?
g.. Speaking of awards, while we didn’t award a Slattern this time, we would have been otherwise guilty of this one – there’s starting to get to be too many silly awards from Guild chapters. Rather than waiting until just before the actual masquerade awards are announced, these need to be done sooner during the judging break.
h.. The biggest transgression – no fan photo run! This is ordinarily a very good way to keep the audience occupied while waiting for the judges to return.
i.. Making things worse, the entrants were encouraged to stay in the Green Room during the judging break. Fortunately, because the break was so long, they eventually trickled out and most were photographed.
j.. We also heard that not enough tech rehearsal time was set aside for the entrants, which caused scheduling problems.
k.. It was nice to have a program of the entries, even if the titles were not on it.

Future Fashion Show

a.. The FFS appeared to be disorganized, with not enough time set aside on Sunday morning to properly rehearse and be judged for the two awards given out.
b.. We liked the fashion runway.
c.. The largish number of entries on stage proved the belief that having a Single Pattern contest does have a subtracting effect on the Fashion Show.
d.. We’re thinking some sort of “tipsheet” or brief orientation before the show would be useful for the models, telling them how and where to walk, stop for photos, and so on.
e.. As has been learned elsewhere, having pre-printed plaques for the statue-style awards does not allow any flexibility for titles in case a winner doesn’t fit a category.
f.. People liked the printed certificates (having them generated pretty quickly after each show didn’t hurt, either).
g.. With a little prodding, there was a photo run for this show.

Historical

a.. Pre-judging ran on time. A very good thing.
b.. While there were only 11 show entries, there wasn’t a bad one in the bunch.
c.. We’re not fans of halftime entertainment. That’s all we’ll say.
d.. Again, no photo run.

Green Room notes

a.. Very nice and spacious
b.. Dedicated bathrooms were appreciated
c.. If the repair table was supposed to be manned, it did not appear to be so during the SF & F masq, and there were many technical-intensive costumes that might have needed assistance.
d.. The standing wire frame cages for hanging costumes on was a great idea and a space saver
e.. Good idea to move the judge’s mnemonic photos to digital
f.. The official photo area was well done, with clear instructions from the photographer and a nice, wide backdrop.
g.. Whether good or bad, there were few snacks in the Green Room to satisfy nervous stomachs.

Con Suite

a.. Kudos to the person in charge of this – it was always well-stocked with snacks and a wide variety of drinks.
b.. We really appreciated the various breakfast items, including the farm-fresh scrambled eggs and pancakes on Sunday morning. The rest of the time, though, the choices of salty items and lack of protein (other than cheese sometimes) was disappointing.
c.. Even if we proved our point about having more meat at the parties, the SLCG has to take the hit for not providing enough St. Louis Toasted Raviolis during the CC25/CC27 shared party. Those disappeared so quickly that many people didn’t’ get a chance to try them. We’ll be sure to double or triple the amount for the CC25 con suite.
d.. Seating in the Con Suite could have been better. People seemed to congregate more in the central section that was right in front of the elevators. We realize they had to work with what they had, though.
e.. We want to single out the runner for the Con Suite supplies was especially good.
f.. Interestingly, running the masquerade videos in a different room did not detract from the parties. In fact, it proved our contention that having the TV in the con suite sucks the conversation right out of the room. As a result, we had some lively discussions with many people all evening. Very refreshing.
g.. Not sure whether it was good or bad, but all sorts of different foods appeared in the con suite at different times of the day all weekend, which either made it annoying that you missed something or was pleasantly surprised.

Final comments

The committee is to be commended for putting on a good CC, overall. The con did not appear to be understaffed. They were efficient, friendly, and very attentive. If there was a problem, they jumped on it and resolved it quickly. Not surprisingly, the tech crew for the 3 shows reflected this.

We had a pretty good time. This bodes well for next year.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1414 From: bruno Date: 6/1/2006
Subject: Re: The “Committee Review”, part II
Additional notes:

Official photo for the SF&F did not begin until about 7:00pm for the SF&F, due to the photographer having to go find some additional equipment.

Sadly, the popcorn machine in the Con Suite when unused for much of the weekend. With the movie theme of the con, I had expected to see more popcorn.

Michael

 

Group: runacc Message: 1415 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 6/2/2006
Subject: Re: Lessons Learned CC-24
I have comments re: the fashion show, but will post them tomorrow
(today) or this weekend – too late to type it all up now.

Sandy

“Those Who Fail To Learn History
Are Doomed to Repeat It;
Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly —
Why They Are Simply Doomed.

Achemdro’hm
“The Illusion of Historical Fact”
— C.Y. 4971

Andromeda

 

Group: runacc Message: 1416 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 6/3/2006
Subject: Re: Lessons Learned CC-24 – FFS

My comments as FFS director:

First, I apologize for the timing issues. I under-estimated the time
it would take for all entries to walk thru the runway
routine. Fortunately, most of the participants had done this before,
and pretty much knew what to do.

Second, I have learned my lesson – if I’m running a big show (we had
17 designs make it on stage), I can’t be one of them. Especially
wearing shoes I can’t walk in, and an unwieldy hat. The one time
before I ran the FFS, Pierre was more fully available to help, and I
did not participate (mainly because the outfit wasn’t done). This
will not happen if I get the chance to run one again.

Third, disorganization – again tied to being in the show – I was
trying to think so much about getting dressed and such, that I didn’t
fully plot out the steps in the process, and try to anticipate hangups.

Therefore: things I would do differently:
1. Try to have a walk-thru earlier in the weekend, even if it’s in
the rehearsal space (if there is one). If a rehearsal space isn’t
available, then try to walk thru as soon as the stage is
available. Tech is not needed at this point, so possibly the crew
could still be setting lights and sound while we walk thru with just
the MC. I really couldn’t ask people to be present any earlier
Sunday, and if we have the show later, it starts to cause problems
with Historical judging. Better communication beforehand could have
foresaw some of these problems, but again I was scrambling to finish sewing.

2. Do not do my own entry for the show. It takes too much prep time
away from what I need to be doing.

3. There was always planned to be a second run down the stage. I
had not thought to make it a photo run until it had already
started. I should have had the second run go with the first person
going out, then when they moved down the runway, have the second
person come out. That way the photo run would go faster, while still
giving everyone a chance to get photos.

4. I loved the runway setup. I was mistaken however, in thinking
that the entries would walk down the runway and off the end, exiting
thru the audience. I should have looked at that further, and made
sure of the traffic pattern before starting.

5. I needed to better edit the script. What looks like a short bit
of description on paper takes a lot longer to read out loud. The
ones that were slides only, should have just been the title,
designer, and award. I did do a lot of cutting backstage just before
the show, but some of it was still too long.

6. I was really happy the slides worked. We used to do slides for
the FFS, but they were film slides, and became a real PITA to do and
show. I knew this crew could handle a PowerPoint projection, so I
planned for it. This lets everyone see how the 2-D design translated
to the 3-D garment. I hope future shows can continue this.

7. MUCHO MUCHO thanks to the tech crew and especially to Les, who
patiently uploaded all the music for the show from the CD’s I
brought. I had tried to copy just the bits I wanted and burn my own
CD’s, but none of my music software was wanting to work for me just
before we left.

Despite the various difficulties, I still think we had a killer
show. The garments that were made up were fabulous, and I thank
everyone who participated, and bore with me thru the confusion.

Sandy Pettinger
FFS Director

At 02:28 PM 6/1/2006, you wrote:

>I personally really enjoyed the runway layout for the FFS and I also
>appreciated showing the sketches of the designs in the show as well
>as some of the winning designs that weren’t represented in the show.
>I thought these arrangements really allowed the audience to get a
>good look at the designs and to get an appreciation for the folio
>process in general. The layout provided nearly three times the front
>row space as the masquerade stage layout. However, this is just the
>perspective of someone who was watching the show and I’ve no idea how
>this layout worked for the participants of the show. I do know that
>there wasn’t sufficient time for the participants to get a full
>rehearsal on the stage. I don’t know why that was, but even so
>things seemed to go just wonderfully.
>
>Running CC-24 was a privilege and a pleasure. I’m looking forward to
>CC-25 and beyond.
>
>Sallie

“Those Who Fail To Learn History
Are Doomed to Repeat It;
Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly —
Why They Are Simply Doomed.

Achemdro’hm
“The Illusion of Historical Fact”
— C.Y. 4971

Andromeda

 

Group: runacc Message: 1417 From: Andrew Trembley Date: 6/4/2006
Subject: Re: Lessons Learned CC-24 – FFS

Pierre & Sandy Pettinger wrote:

> 3. There was always planned to be a second run down the stage. I
> had not thought to make it a photo run until it had already
> started. I should have had the second run go with the first person
> going out, then when they moved down the runway, have the second
> person come out. That way the photo run would go faster, while still
> giving everyone a chance to get photos.
>

A wider runway allowing models to pass each other more easily would have
facilitated this. It’s common to have 3-4 models doing the return-pass
sequence simultaneously; since there were 3 good stopping points you
could easily have had 3 models on the runway at a time during the
reprise if the runway allowed.

A good pace is to have the model hit a stopping point (top, mid, or end
of runway), do a 4-count facing one side, turn to face the other side
for a 4 count, and then step off to the next point.

> 4. I loved the runway setup. I was mistaken however, in thinking
> that the entries would walk down the runway and off the end, exiting
> thru the audience. I should have looked at that further, and made
> sure of the traffic pattern before starting.
>

In a classic fashion show, the model always goes to the end of the
runway and then back. I will note to our show director to watch Elsa
Klench videos over and over again in the weeks leading up to the con.
There are few fashion show commentators as solid as she is.

> 5. I needed to better edit the script. What looks like a short bit
> of description on paper takes a lot longer to read out loud. The
> ones that were slides only, should have just been the title,
> designer, and award. I did do a lot of cutting backstage just before
> the show, but some of it was still too long.
>

The full descriptions should be in a program booklet; read narrative is
often “highlights.” Yeah, it’s extra printing costs, but it’s worth it.

andy

 

Group: runacc Message: 1418 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 6/4/2006
Subject: Re: Lessons Learned CC-24 – FFS

Good notes, and all stuff that is easy to change. Thanks. Sandy. Since
Henry is also on this list, I guess there’s no necessity to re-post it to
the CC25 list – not to mention, the majority of us are on the same list! 🙂

Bruce

—– Original Message —–
From: “Pierre & Sandy Pettinger” <costumrs@radiks.net>
To: <runacc@yahoogroups.com>; <ICG-D@yahoogroups.com>;
<cc25committee@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 10:31 PM
Subject: [runacc] Re: Lessons Learned CC-24 – FFS

> My comments as FFS director:
>
> First, I apologize for the timing issues. I under-estimated the time
> it would take for all entries to walk thru the runway
> routine. Fortunately, most of the participants had done this before,
> and pretty much knew what to do.
>
> Second, I have learned my lesson – if I’m running a big show (we had
> 17 designs make it on stage), I can’t be one of them. Especially
> wearing shoes I can’t walk in, and an unwieldy hat. The one time
> before I ran the FFS, Pierre was more fully available to help, and I
> did not participate (mainly because the outfit wasn’t done). This
> will not happen if I get the chance to run one again.
>
> Third, disorganization – again tied to being in the show – I was
> trying to think so much about getting dressed and such, that I didn’t
> fully plot out the steps in the process, and try to anticipate hangups.
>
> Therefore: things I would do differently:
> 1. Try to have a walk-thru earlier in the weekend, even if it’s in
> the rehearsal space (if there is one). If a rehearsal space isn’t
> available, then try to walk thru as soon as the stage is
> available. Tech is not needed at this point, so possibly the crew
> could still be setting lights and sound while we walk thru with just
> the MC. I really couldn’t ask people to be present any earlier
> Sunday, and if we have the show later, it starts to cause problems
> with Historical judging. Better communication beforehand could have
> foresaw some of these problems, but again I was scrambling to finish
> sewing.
>
> 2. Do not do my own entry for the show. It takes too much prep time
> away from what I need to be doing.
>
> 3. There was always planned to be a second run down the stage. I
> had not thought to make it a photo run until it had already
> started. I should have had the second run go with the first person
> going out, then when they moved down the runway, have the second
> person come out. That way the photo run would go faster, while still
> giving everyone a chance to get photos.
>
> 4. I loved the runway setup. I was mistaken however, in thinking
> that the entries would walk down the runway and off the end, exiting
> thru the audience. I should have looked at that further, and made
> sure of the traffic pattern before starting.
>
> 5. I needed to better edit the script. What looks like a short bit
> of description on paper takes a lot longer to read out loud. The
> ones that were slides only, should have just been the title,
> designer, and award. I did do a lot of cutting backstage just before
> the show, but some of it was still too long.
>
> 6. I was really happy the slides worked. We used to do slides for
> the FFS, but they were film slides, and became a real PITA to do and
> show. I knew this crew could handle a PowerPoint projection, so I
> planned for it. This lets everyone see how the 2-D design translated
> to the 3-D garment. I hope future shows can continue this.
>
> 7. MUCHO MUCHO thanks to the tech crew and especially to Les, who
> patiently uploaded all the music for the show from the CD’s I
> brought. I had tried to copy just the bits I wanted and burn my own
> CD’s, but none of my music software was wanting to work for me just
> before we left.
>
> Despite the various difficulties, I still think we had a killer
> show. The garments that were made up were fabulous, and I thank
> everyone who participated, and bore with me thru the confusion.
>
> Sandy Pettinger
> FFS Director
>
> At 02:28 PM 6/1/2006, you wrote:
>>I personally really enjoyed the runway layout for the FFS and I also
>>appreciated showing the sketches of the designs in the show as well
>>as some of the winning designs that weren’t represented in the show.
>>I thought these arrangements really allowed the audience to get a
>>good look at the designs and to get an appreciation for the folio
>>process in general. The layout provided nearly three times the front
>>row space as the masquerade stage layout. However, this is just the
>>perspective of someone who was watching the show and I’ve no idea how
>>this layout worked for the participants of the show. I do know that
>>there wasn’t sufficient time for the participants to get a full
>>rehearsal on the stage. I don’t know why that was, but even so
>>things seemed to go just wonderfully.
>>
>>Running CC-24 was a privilege and a pleasure. I’m looking forward to
>>CC-25 and beyond.
>>
>>Sallie
>
> “Those Who Fail To Learn History
> Are Doomed to Repeat It;
> Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly —
> Why They Are Simply Doomed.
>
> Achemdro’hm
> “The Illusion of Historical Fact”
> — C.Y. 4971
>
> Andromeda
>
>
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1419 From: Ricky & Karen Dick Date: 6/4/2006
Subject: Re: Lessons Learned CC-24 – FFS
Full descriptions WERE printed.
In the folio.
there’s no need to have extra expense by printing them again.
I saw plenty of people bring their folios to the show, as I always have seen in other years.
Ricky

The full descriptions should be in a program booklet; read narrative is
often “highlights.” Yeah, it’s extra printing costs, but it’s worth it.

andy

View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/

SPONSORED LINKS Performing arts camp Center for the performing arts Performing arts center

——————————————————————————
YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS

a.. Visit your group “runacc” on the web.

b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
runacc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

——————————————————————————

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1420 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 6/4/2006
Subject: Re: Lessons Learned CC-24 – FFS

In a message dated 6/4/2006 8:25:48 AM Central Standard Time,
casamai@sbcglobal.net writes:

> Since
> Henry is also on this list, I guess there’s no necessity to re-post it to
> the CC25 list – not to mention, the majority of us are on the same list! 🙂

I’m on this list? Since when? ;P

Actually, I have been reading all the comments and saving the e-mails for
future review!

Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1421 From: Kevin Roche Date: 6/4/2006
Subject: Re: Lessons Learned CC-24 – FFS

I’d suggest having something like my Stage Movement panel early in the
weekend with a *very strong suggestion* that FFS models attend, and make
sure the workshop facilitator knows you want a little catwalk practice
as part of the panel.

That workshop is actually easier to do with more bodies, because the
embarassment factor at standing up and being goofy goes down
dramatically when there is a roomful of other beginners doing it with you.

Pierre & Sandy Pettinger wrote:

>1. Try to have a walk-thru earlier in the weekend, even if it’s in
>the rehearsal space (if there is one). If a rehearsal space isn’t
>available, then try to walk thru as soon as the stage is
>available. Tech is not needed at this point, so possibly the crew
>could still be setting lights and sound while we walk thru with just
>the MC. I really couldn’t ask people to be present any earlier
>Sunday, and if we have the show later, it starts to cause problems
>with Historical judging. Better communication beforehand could have
>foresaw some of these problems, but again I was scrambling to finish sewing.
>
>

As the hypoglycemic and hypothermic model at CC24, I’d suggest having
the awards announced between the narrated runway walk and the photo
walk. It would have made the morning much healthier for me!

>3. There was always planned to be a second run down the stage. I
>had not thought to make it a photo run until it had already
>started. I should have had the second run go with the first person
>going out, then when they moved down the runway, have the second
>person come out. That way the photo run would go faster, while still
>giving everyone a chance to get photos.
>
>
>
>

Kevin

 

Group: runacc Message: 1422 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 6/4/2006
Subject: Re: Lessons Learned CC-24 – FFS

Make a note, Fiona…..

Bruce

—– Original Message —–
From: “Kevin Roche” <kevin@twistedimage.com>
To: <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [runacc] Re: Lessons Learned CC-24 – FFS

I’d suggest having something like my Stage Movement panel early in the
weekend with a *very strong suggestion* that FFS models attend, and make
sure the workshop facilitator knows you want a little catwalk practice
as part of the panel.

That workshop is actually easier to do with more bodies, because the
embarassment factor at standing up and being goofy goes down
dramatically when there is a roomful of other beginners doing it with you.

Pierre & Sandy Pettinger wrote:

>1. Try to have a walk-thru earlier in the weekend, even if it’s in
>the rehearsal space (if there is one). If a rehearsal space isn’t
>available, then try to walk thru as soon as the stage is
>available. Tech is not needed at this point, so possibly the crew
>could still be setting lights and sound while we walk thru with just
>the MC. I really couldn’t ask people to be present any earlier
>Sunday, and if we have the show later, it starts to cause problems
>with Historical judging. Better communication beforehand could have
>foresaw some of these problems, but again I was scrambling to finish
>sewing.
>
>
As the hypoglycemic and hypothermic model at CC24, I’d suggest having
the awards announced between the narrated runway walk and the photo
walk. It would have made the morning much healthier for me!

>3. There was always planned to be a second run down the stage. I
>had not thought to make it a photo run until it had already
>started. I should have had the second run go with the first person
>going out, then when they moved down the runway, have the second
>person come out. That way the photo run would go faster, while still
>giving everyone a chance to get photos.
>
>
>
>
Kevin

View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
Yahoo! Groups Links

 

Group: runacc Message: 1423 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 6/10/2006
Subject: Cell Phone policy
I think this was done at CC24, but I think from now on forward, we need to
add a “put your cell phone on vibrate and leave the room” announcement along
with no flash phtography during the masquerade.

Also, people need to leave a panel room if they get a call, rather than take
it in the back.

Bruce

 

Group: runacc Message: 1424 From: bruno Date: 6/10/2006
Subject: Re: Cell Phone policy

A policy will not do any good, unless there are consequences for violating it. People who do not silence their phones or take calls in meetings will exhibit the same behavior no matter where they are. They’re probably also the same people who will carry on a separate conversation during a panel.

Announcing it before the Masquerades start and before every panel will help to remind people to turn their phones off, but will not completely stop the behaviour.

Michael

> ——-Original Message——-
> From: Bruce & Nora Mai <casamai@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [runacc] Cell Phone policy
> Sent: 10 Jun ’06 20:42
>
> I think this was done at CC24, but I think from now on forward, we need to
>
> add a “put your cell phone on vibrate and leave the room” announcement
> along
> with no flash phtography during the masquerade.
>
> Also, people need to leave a panel room if they get a call, rather than
> take
> it in the back.
>
> Bruce
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1425 From: Martin Gear Date: 6/11/2006
Subject: Re: Cell Phone policy

FWIIW –
When people ignored the “No Flash Photography” request at Balticon, the
following year we had a plant in the audience who fired a flash at me
right after I made the request, and two very large security people ran
over, grabbed him, grabbed his camera, pulled out the film (it was that
long ago) stamped the camera into pieces and dragged the miscreant out
of the hall. We never had the flash problem at a Balticon again, and
I’m sure that there are still some people who didn’t know that the guy
was a plant. I suspect that you could do the same thing with a cell
phone abuser.

Marty

bruno wrote:

>
> A policy will not do any good, unless there are consequences for
> violating it. People who do not silence their phones or take calls in
> meetings will exhibit the same behavior no matter where they are.
> They’re probably also the same people who will carry on a separate
> conversation during a panel.
>
> Announcing it before the Masquerades start and before every panel will
> help to remind people to turn their phones off, but will not
> completely stop the behaviour.
>
> Michael
>
> > ——-Original Message——-
> > From: Bruce & Nora Mai <casamai@sbcglobal.net
> <mailto:casamai%40sbcglobal.net>>
> > Subject: [runacc] Cell Phone policy
> > Sent: 10 Jun ’06 20:42
> >
> > I think this was done at CC24, but I think from now on forward, we
> need to
> >
> > add a “put your cell phone on vibrate and leave the room” announcement
> > along
> > with no flash phtography during the masquerade.
> >
> > Also, people need to leave a panel room if they get a call, rather than
> > take
> > it in the back.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> >
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1426 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 6/11/2006
Subject: Re: Cell Phone policy

In a message dated 6/11/2006 2:38:40 AM Central Standard Time,
MartinGear@comcast.net writes:

> FWIIW –
> When people ignored the “No Flash Photography” request at Balticon, the
> following year we had a plant in the audience who fired a flash at me
> right after I made the request, and two very large security people ran
> over, grabbed him, grabbed his camera, pulled out the film (it was that
> long ago) stamped the camera into pieces and dragged the miscreant out
> of the hall. We never had the flash problem at a Balticon again, and
> I’m sure that there are still some people who didn’t know that the guy
> was a plant. I suspect that you could do the same thing with a cell
> phone abuser.
>

I’ll volunteer to be the rube on that gag!
Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1427 From: Tina Date: 6/11/2006
Subject: Re: Cell Phone policy
It wouldn’t work, Henry. You don’t look stupid enough.

Tina
___

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1428 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 6/12/2006
Subject: Re: Cell Phone policy

An interesting idea. I agree, there have to be consequences. We may need to revive that little play for CC25, then. OUr security guy would probably get a kick out of that.

Cell phones are considered more “vital” than cameras, but it’s worth a shot.

Bruce

—– Original Message —–
From: Martin Gear
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [runacc] Cell Phone policy

FWIIW –
When people ignored the “No Flash Photography” request at Balticon, the
following year we had a plant in the audience who fired a flash at me
right after I made the request, and two very large security people ran
over, grabbed him, grabbed his camera, pulled out the film (it was that
long ago) stamped the camera into pieces and dragged the miscreant out
of the hall. We never had the flash problem at a Balticon again, and
I’m sure that there are still some people who didn’t know that the guy
was a plant. I suspect that you could do the same thing with a cell
phone abuser.

Marty

bruno wrote:
>
> A policy will not do any good, unless there are consequences for
> violating it. People who do not silence their phones or take calls in
> meetings will exhibit the same behavior no matter where they are.
> They’re probably also the same people who will carry on a separate
> conversation during a panel.
>
> Announcing it before the Masquerades start and before every panel will
> help to remind people to turn their phones off, but will not
> completely stop the behaviour.
>
> Michael
>
> > ——-Original Message——-
> > From: Bruce & Nora Mai <casamai@sbcglobal.net
> <mailto:casamai%40sbcglobal.net>>
> > Subject: [runacc] Cell Phone policy
> > Sent: 10 Jun ’06 20:42
> >
> > I think this was done at CC24, but I think from now on forward, we
> need to
> >
> > add a “put your cell phone on vibrate and leave the room” announcement
> > along
> > with no flash phtography during the masquerade.
> >
> > Also, people need to leave a panel room if they get a call, rather than
> > take
> > it in the back.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> >
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1429 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 6/13/2006
Subject: Re: Cell Phone policy

Consequences? I can guarantee consequences considering my personal feelings about idiots with cell-phones. Just give me permission.

Nora

—– Original Message —–
From: bruno
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com

A policy will not do any good, unless there are consequences for violating it. People who do not silence their phones or take calls in meetings will exhibit the same behavior no matter where they are. They’re probably also the same people who will carry on a separate conversation during a panel.

Announcing it before the Masquerades start and before every panel will help to remind people to turn their phones off, but will not completely stop the behaviour.

Michael

> ——-Original Message——-
> From: Bruce & Nora Mai <casamai@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [runacc] Cell Phone policy
> Sent: 10 Jun ’06 20:42
>
> I think this was done at CC24, but I think from now on forward, we need to
>
> add a “put your cell phone on vibrate and leave the room” announcement
> along
> with no flash phtography during the masquerade.
>
> Also, people need to leave a panel room if they get a call, rather than
> take
> it in the back.
>
> Bruce
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1430 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 6/20/2006
Subject: CC21 FFF’s!
Hello!

I just looked in the box of stuff from CC21. I still have 23 Future Fashion
Folios. Would anyone like one? I believe the archives have copies.

Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1431 From: John O’Halloran Date: 6/20/2006
Subject: Re: Cell Phone policy

At Conalulu (Hawaii Westercon), I had John Hertz read a list of don’t.

I deliberately made it very long to be funny.

John got past the important ones (no flash, pagers & cell phones off)
and read a few of the more esoteric/silly ones. He stopped reading
aloud and mimed looking at very long list.

He then looked up at the audience and said “Be nice to each other.”

No flashes, no beeping. 😉

on the flip side.

1995, Intersection, they STOPPED the show when the first flash went off.
Then threatened to stop the show again and keep it stopped till the
offender left or was removed the hall.

JohnO

Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:

>
>
> I think this was done at CC24, but I think from now on forward, we need to
> add a “put your cell phone on vibrate and leave the room” announcement
> along
> with no flash phtography during the masquerade.
>
> Also, people need to leave a panel room if they get a call, rather than
> take
> it in the back.
>
> Bruce
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1432 From: Ricky & Karen Dick Date: 7/1/2006
Subject: Costume-Con Service Mark Update
As all of you know, my co-Service Mark Holder for Costume-Con, Kelly Turner, died last year.

Kelly’s estate has assigned me his portion of the Costume-Con Service Mark, and this transfer was officially recorded with the USPTO in April 2006 and is now searchable in their database.

Official information:

Recordation date: 4/17/06
Reel/frame: 003328 / 0020
Brief: Assignment of an undivided part of assignor’s interest
Assignor: Tague, Rosetta E., executrix for Turner, Kelly F.
Assignee: Dick, Karen L.

So, effective immediately, I am the ONLY name that should be on any statements regarding the CC Service Mark, and you should update your web sites, flyers, and other publications accordingly (i.e., no more references to “Kelly Turner” or “estate of Kelly Turner”).

Betsy, please update the ConStitution.

I am going to go fix the front page of the Costume-Con.com web site right after I post this.

I’m sorry that this unfortunate situation is creating more work for everyone. Please bear with me during this time of transition.

–Karen

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1433 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 7/1/2006
Subject: Re: Costume-Con Service Mark Update

CC25 site done, as requested.

Nora

—– Original Message —–
From: “Ricky & Karen Dick” <castleb@atlanticbb.net>
To: <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 12:00 PM
Subject: [runacc] Costume-Con Service Mark Update

> As all of you know, my co-Service Mark Holder for Costume-Con, Kelly
> Turner, died last year.
>
> Kelly’s estate has assigned me his portion of the Costume-Con Service
> Mark, and this transfer was officially recorded with the USPTO in April
> 2006 and is now searchable in their database.
>
> Official information:
>
> Recordation date: 4/17/06
> Reel/frame: 003328 / 0020
> Brief: Assignment of an undivided part of assignor’s interest
> Assignor: Tague, Rosetta E., executrix for Turner, Kelly F.
> Assignee: Dick, Karen L.
>
> So, effective immediately, I am the ONLY name that should be on any
> statements regarding the CC Service Mark, and you should update your web
> sites, flyers, and other publications accordingly (i.e., no more
> references to “Kelly Turner” or “estate of Kelly Turner”).
>
> Betsy, please update the ConStitution.
>
> I am going to go fix the front page of the Costume-Con.com web site right
> after I post this.
>
> I’m sorry that this unfortunate situation is creating more work for
> everyone. Please bear with me during this time of transition.
>
> –Karen
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1434 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 7/1/2006
Subject: Re: Costume-Con Service Mark Update
Karen,
I will have my website updated as soon as possible.
Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1435 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 7/12/2006
Subject: Linkage…
So a convention bid that will remain nameless (but just won their
site selection) was raising some suspicions with me. I read a bunch
of fanzines and checked out a bunch of club websites in their
hometown to see what the general feel for the bid in the area was,
and found nothing.

“Finding nothing” is the point.

I noticed that none of the club websites had links to the bid. I also
realized that there aren’t that many links for our CC26 website
outside of the other CC websites.

So I started thinking “Link Exchange.”

We’ve got to get our link engine up and running (it’s not yet, and it
will be a few weeks), but I’ve already been working on link button
and banner designs. I’ve gone with the industry-standard sizes of
468×60 and 120×60 (not that I’m planning to plug these into
commercial link exchange networks).

<http://bovil.livejournal.com/177121.html>

I’m going to suggest that y’all come up with link graphics in these
standard sizes (including Costume-Con.org and Costume-Con.com) to
make it easier for us to bank links together on our sites, and also
to give link images out to other clubs, costume groups and costume
website folks.

We’ve got a ton of costume groups and clubs in California who may be
interested in cross-linking. I’m sure you’ve got some in your
backyard too.


andy trembley, Bitchy Design Queen – http://www.bovil.com/
San Jose, CA – ’72 R75/5 ’86 R100 (mine) – ’92 K75sa ’03 R1150R
(Kevin’s)
“It’s not pink, it’s peach-colored. Pink is tacky.”
–Manfred Pfirsich Marie Rommel

read the FAQ… Ridicule: http://www.idiots-r-us.org/
read the FAQ… IBMWR: http://www.ibmwr.org/faq-files/
read the FAQ… AirList: http://www.airheads.org/faq.html
read the FAQ… Hoaxes & Urban Legends: http://urbanlegends.about.com/


andy trembley, Bitchy Design Queen – http://www.bovil.com/
San Jose, CA – ’72 R75/5 ’86 R100 (mine) – ’92 K75sa ’03 R1150R
(Kevin’s)
…remaining .sig trimmed for better message/.sig ratio

 

Group: runacc Message: 1436 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 7/15/2006
Subject: Re: Linkage…

We’ve got links to both CC26 & 27 on the CC25 site. And we’ve got links to
some older sites that are still in existance.
And we’d be happy to link to any current bids that have a web presence.

Nora

—– Original Message —–
From: “Andrew T Trembley” <attrembl@bovil.com>
To: <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 6:03 PM
Subject: [runacc] Linkage…

> So a convention bid that will remain nameless (but just won their
> site selection) was raising some suspicions with me. I read a bunch
> of fanzines and checked out a bunch of club websites in their
> hometown to see what the general feel for the bid in the area was,
> and found nothing.
>
> “Finding nothing” is the point.
>
> I noticed that none of the club websites had links to the bid. I also
> realized that there aren’t that many links for our CC26 website
> outside of the other CC websites.
>
> So I started thinking “Link Exchange.”
>
> We’ve got to get our link engine up and running (it’s not yet, and it
> will be a few weeks), but I’ve already been working on link button
> and banner designs. I’ve gone with the industry-standard sizes of
> 468×60 and 120×60 (not that I’m planning to plug these into
> commercial link exchange networks).
>
> <http://bovil.livejournal.com/177121.html>
>
> I’m going to suggest that y’all come up with link graphics in these
> standard sizes (including Costume-Con.org and Costume-Con.com) to
> make it easier for us to bank links together on our sites, and also
> to give link images out to other clubs, costume groups and costume
> website folks.
>
> We’ve got a ton of costume groups and clubs in California who may be
> interested in cross-linking. I’m sure you’ve got some in your
> backyard too.
>
> —
> andy trembley, Bitchy Design Queen – http://www.bovil.com/
> San Jose, CA – ’72 R75/5 ’86 R100 (mine) – ’92 K75sa ’03 R1150R
> (Kevin’s)
> “It’s not pink, it’s peach-colored. Pink is tacky.”
> –Manfred Pfirsich Marie Rommel
>
> read the FAQ… Ridicule: http://www.idiots-r-us.org/
> read the FAQ… IBMWR: http://www.ibmwr.org/faq-files/
> read the FAQ… AirList: http://www.airheads.org/faq.html
> read the FAQ… Hoaxes & Urban Legends: http://urbanlegends.about.com/
>
> —
> andy trembley, Bitchy Design Queen – http://www.bovil.com/
> San Jose, CA – ’72 R75/5 ’86 R100 (mine) – ’92 K75sa ’03 R1150R
> (Kevin’s)
> …remaining .sig trimmed for better message/.sig ratio
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1437 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 7/15/2006
Subject: Re: Linkage…
I have my person working on links on my bid site.
Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1438 From: Ricky & Karen Dick Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Talking about CC memberships
Please forgive me if this has been covered on the ICG board.
I’ve seen all the talk about memberships being given away.
Here’s my thoughts.
They come from the years of doing events that have tickets/memberships

Give away a bunch!

The pr from the giveaways at other cons is great.

One thing to remember tho, make all gift memberships NON TRANSFERABLE. you want to reward the person who won it.
NOT create a secondery market on the ICG list for re-sales like happens so often on worldcon memberships.
people on the list or elsewhere who would buy these second hand, WANT to come to the con and will pay to do it, and you the committee need thier money.

If your gift memberships don’t get used, who cares, you got the pr out of them anyway.

Always be willing to give memberships to people who you are sure , 100% sure wouldn’t be coming.
I don’t mean every broke starving fan who would like another con hallway to sleep in for a weekend.

I mean , business’s in your area, teachers, ect…

also, use memberships for barter.

trade out a membership for cubes of soda for the con sweet, or stationery supplies , or whatever.
sponsoring out a CC is the way to make up for the less than 500 people we’ve been seeing of late.

That’s how we’ll be doing CC-27 for sure.
If you have comittee people signed on for this type of stuff, please have them contact me, and I’ll be glad to send them some info on how this all can work.

We have written a book on doing this for haunts, and I lecture on it around the country quite a lot.

many of the things can be adapted to cons.
Just as the reverse can happen.
a haunt trade show we did in columbus Ohio last week, used Marty’s CC contract disk to get a better deal from thier hotel.

Ricky

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1439 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Re: Talking about CC memberships

I think we will have given away some dozen or more by CC25. We also have a
page for pics of the winners: www.cc25.net/memberhsip_winners.htm.

Bruce

—– Original Message —–
From: “Ricky & Karen Dick” <castleb@atlanticbb.net>
To: <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 12:15 PM
Subject: [runacc] Talking about CC memberships

> Please forgive me if this has been covered on the ICG board.
> I’ve seen all the talk about memberships being given away.
> Here’s my thoughts.
> They come from the years of doing events that have tickets/memberships
>
> Give away a bunch!
>
> The pr from the giveaways at other cons is great.
>
> One thing to remember tho, make all gift memberships NON TRANSFERABLE. you
> want to reward the person who won it.
> NOT create a secondery market on the ICG list for re-sales like happens so
> often on worldcon memberships.
> people on the list or elsewhere who would buy these second hand, WANT to
> come to the con and will pay to do it, and you the committee need thier
> money.
>
> If your gift memberships don’t get used, who cares, you got the pr out of
> them anyway.
>
> Always be willing to give memberships to people who you are sure , 100%
> sure wouldn’t be coming.
> I don’t mean every broke starving fan who would like another con hallway
> to sleep in for a weekend.
>
> I mean , business’s in your area, teachers, ect…
>
> also, use memberships for barter.
>
> trade out a membership for cubes of soda for the con sweet, or stationery
> supplies , or whatever.
> sponsoring out a CC is the way to make up for the less than 500 people
> we’ve been seeing of late.
>
> That’s how we’ll be doing CC-27 for sure.
> If you have comittee people signed on for this type of stuff, please have
> them contact me, and I’ll be glad to send them some info on how this all
> can work.
>
> We have written a book on doing this for haunts, and I lecture on it
> around the country quite a lot.
>
> many of the things can be adapted to cons.
> Just as the reverse can happen.
> a haunt trade show we did in columbus Ohio last week, used Marty’s CC
> contract disk to get a better deal from thier hotel.
>
> Ricky
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1440 From: Andrew Trembley Date: 8/13/2006
Subject: Re: [ICG-D] Registration behavior questoni

Richard wrote:

> Wow! Definitely YMMV. Anime Expo has ~33,000 this years, and I think again
> at most half are pre-reg’!

It doesn’t cap. Anime Los Angeles may sell out in advance this year;
they’ve capped at 1600 members and people know it. A membership cap
drives sales. It does for capped anime conventions, and it does for
Costume College. Not something that applies to Costume-con at its
current size, really.

Having talked to the Fanime (5000+ person anime convention in SJ, for
those of you who don’t know) people at Bay Area ConStruction this year,
I got a lot of useful information about their marketing and sales
strategies.

Fanime does set monthly pre-registration sales goals, usually focused
around conventions at which they promote. It’s very important in their
budgeting process, and ensures they have the needed cash flow to operate
the convention.

Fanime does nearly no paper pre-registration. They have advertising
fliers, and send people to their website for online registration with
online payment. If you want to sell to anime-congoers, you must have
online registration and payment.

Fanime makes no effort to actually sell memberships at other
conventions. Their at-convention marketing efforts are purely aimed at
building recognition of their convention and building goodwill towards
their convention. They don’t print registration forms on the backs of
their fliers or put registration forms at their fan table or on the
freebie table. Their rationale is that people go to other anime
conventions to spend their money in the dealers room and on food and
drink, and that they don’t want to have to decide between instant
gratification (buying stuff and eating) and delayed gratification
(spending con budget money on a preregistration).

So how do they make their reg goals? They instead provide advertising
fliers with an online coupon code that’s good for up to a month after
the convention. Prospective members will buy a membership once they get
home (fresh budget, no dealers room), and the coupon-code encourages
them to do it soon. This has been very successful for Fanime.

andy

 

Group: runacc Message: 1441 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 8/13/2006
Subject: Uniflyers
Is anyone still printing them, since we’re supposedly cross-promotinng so
that our numbers will eventually grow?

Also, does CC28 have flyers going to DC?

Bruce

 

Group: runacc Message: 1442 From: Andrew Trembley Date: 8/13/2006
Subject: Re: Uniflyers

Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:

> Is anyone still printing them, since we’re supposedly cross-promotinng so
> that our numbers will eventually grow?

Mine are on hold at the moment; we’re close to signing the hotel
contract, so I don’t want to flood the circuit with “Hotel TBA” fliers
and I definitely don’t want to flood the circuit with “Hotel X” and (for
some reason) on the chance the agreement falls through before signing.

andy

 

Group: runacc Message: 1443 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 8/13/2006
Subject: Re: Uniflyers
Do people think it would help if we posted our individual flyers in the Files
section of Yahoo for this group?

Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1444 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 8/13/2006
Subject: More registration behavior info
If Dave is still on this list, I’d be curious to know how many walkin
registrations he got for CC23, and what percentage that represented.

BTB, I received an offlist e-mail from Scott Corwin – Sheila Lenkman’s
husband – who is becoming more involved with the administration of Archon.
Accroding to him, he is also starting to see a slow down of pre-regs over
where they were this time last year (the con is on the first weekend of
October). They were also down last year, but they made up for it in
walk-ins. The NASFIC for next year – also here in St. Louis – is
experiencing a similar trend. Given how prices will be much higher at the
door for that event, I wonder if they’ll have a similar number of walk-ins.

Word is that perhaps attendance may not be much greater than a normal
healthy Archon – maybe 2500? That’s pretty small for a NASFIC, is it not?

I believe that after CC25, there will be much to discuss about the current
business model we’ve been following for years. I think CC26 will be fine –
being in California and Kevin and Andy’s constant promotion will no doubt
make the con successful. But I wonder what will happen in the future?

Bruce

Bruce

 

Group: runacc Message: 1445 From: Andrew Trembley Date: 8/14/2006
Subject: Re: More registration behavior info

Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:

> BTB, I received an offlist e-mail from Scott Corwin – Sheila Lenkman’s
> husband – who is becoming more involved with the administration of Archon.
> Accroding to him, he is also starting to see a slow down of pre-regs over
> where they were this time last year (the con is on the first weekend of
> October). They were also down last year, but they made up for it in
> walk-ins. The NASFIC for next year – also here in St. Louis – is
> experiencing a similar trend. Given how prices will be much higher at the
> door for that event, I wonder if they’ll have a similar number of walk-ins.
>
> Word is that perhaps attendance may not be much greater than a normal
> healthy Archon – maybe 2500? That’s pretty small for a NASFIC, is it not?
>

NASFiC is a strange beast, kind of the ugly stepchild of WorldCon. It’s
got a draw, but not that great of a draw. The traveling convention core
constituents will go, but that’s only a fraction of the Worldcon core
constituency. A significant number of people who say “I can’t go to
Yokahama” will also say “St. Louis isn’t Worldcon” and not go there
either. NASFiC also won’t get the “Oh, wow! WorldCon is nearby” reaction
from fans who aren’t regular attendees of the local and regional
conventions. If Scott is talking about an estimated 400-600 person bump
in Archon/NASFiC attendance next year, that’s a healthy guess based on
my knowledge of the different groups of Worldcon attendees.

If Archon gets 2500 people, it’s going to be much larger than last
NASFiC in Seattle. I could get you hard numbers there if you would like.
I was at the Anaheim NASFiC, and unfortunately I don’t have a really
good feel for how big it was; we flew in Friday after work and flew home
Sunday afternoon (I had just moved, new job, no vacation yet). It was
kind of a blitz.

andy

 

Group: runacc Message: 1446 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 8/14/2006
Subject: Re: More registration behavior info

Yes, that might be helpful. Thanks for the info – I think that gives a
better, if disappointing, view of what to expect. Normally, Archon averages
around 2200 or more, and has been growing, but I suspect that the higher
cost of a NASFIC will keep a good number of younger people away who normally
can afford the $40 – $45 or so for a regular Archon.

Bruce

—– Original Message —–
From: “Andrew Trembley” <attrembl@bovil.com>
To: <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: [runacc] More registration behavior info

> Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:
>> BTB, I received an offlist e-mail from Scott Corwin – Sheila Lenkman’s
>> husband – who is becoming more involved with the administration of
>> Archon.
>> Accroding to him, he is also starting to see a slow down of pre-regs over
>> where they were this time last year (the con is on the first weekend of
>> October). They were also down last year, but they made up for it in
>> walk-ins. The NASFIC for next year – also here in St. Louis – is
>> experiencing a similar trend. Given how prices will be much higher at
>> the
>> door for that event, I wonder if they’ll have a similar number of
>> walk-ins.
>>
>> Word is that perhaps attendance may not be much greater than a normal
>> healthy Archon – maybe 2500? That’s pretty small for a NASFIC, is it
>> not?
>>
>
> NASFiC is a strange beast, kind of the ugly stepchild of WorldCon. It’s
> got a draw, but not that great of a draw. The traveling convention core
> constituents will go, but that’s only a fraction of the Worldcon core
> constituency. A significant number of people who say “I can’t go to
> Yokahama” will also say “St. Louis isn’t Worldcon” and not go there
> either. NASFiC also won’t get the “Oh, wow! WorldCon is nearby” reaction
> from fans who aren’t regular attendees of the local and regional
> conventions. If Scott is talking about an estimated 400-600 person bump
> in Archon/NASFiC attendance next year, that’s a healthy guess based on
> my knowledge of the different groups of Worldcon attendees.
>
> If Archon gets 2500 people, it’s going to be much larger than last
> NASFiC in Seattle. I could get you hard numbers there if you would like.
> I was at the Anaheim NASFiC, and unfortunately I don’t have a really
> good feel for how big it was; we flew in Friday after work and flew home
> Sunday afternoon (I had just moved, new job, no vacation yet). It was
> kind of a blitz.
>
> andy
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1447 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 9/7/2006
Subject: Costume-Con 25 FFF Results
Judging was last weekend so we thought we’d post a few numbers here.

The Folio will have a total of 100 designs from 30 designers.
17 of those designers are NEW!!!!!

6 designers are from outside the United States.
11 designers submitted their designs via email.

More details to follow as we crunch more numbers,

Nora, Karen & Steve

 

Group: runacc Message: 1448 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 9/28/2006
Subject: A reminder to folks when selecting official photographers…
Hi, all!

This is a reminder, since I’m deep in the archives right now. Artsy
photography is all well and good, but when an official photographer
selects the up-close image rather than the complete costume, that’s a
problem for the archives.

CC8 and CC21 in particular suffered from artsy portrait photos at the
cost of a complete image. And worse, the images needed to be extracted
from the completely unhelpful “scrapbook” format selected by the
official photog for display of CC21’s images. (Extraction, by the way,
that I couldn’t do myself – if Judy Mitchell’s husband hadn’t done the
work for her, I’d still be scanning the images I purchased instead of
using the electronic version.)

You need to be sure that the official photog understands that a
selection of the images being taken will be published on the CC site, so
there are no questions or misunderstandings about how the images will be
used.

And on a separate note, regarding the doll contest: I’ve gone to extra
lengths to be sure I had complete info on doll entries since I’ve been
maintaining the site. This task was hampered at CC21 by a contest
director who did not include the names of the dolls in competition on
display. I never got a complete list, and have had to guess which doll
went with which photo. I’m two titles/descriptions short for the photos
I took while I was there. (I have the same problem, in fact, with CC16,
which is why I make the list and take photos of the doll and title at
the same time.)

If you do have an official photographer record the dolls and exhibits,
please express to the photographer the importance not just of the entry
or exhibit but also the NAME of the object!

Yours for less frustration in documenting events!

Betsy



Betsy Delaney

*************************************************************************
See my resume at: http://www.hawkeswood.com/betsywork.shtml
*************************************************************************

 

Group: runacc Message: 1449 From: Kevin Roche Date: 10/6/2006
Subject: Announcing Costume-Con 26 Hotel and Room Rates
I’m pleased to announce that today I signed the hotel contract for
Costume-Con 26 with the DoubleTree Hotel San Jose, well-known site of
many Bay Area conventions!

Our room rates will be $92 for a standard room, 1-4 people.

Note: Reservations cannot be made in our room block before April 24, 2007

Further details will be posted as we have them!

Kevin Roche
Convention Chair, Costume-Con 26
<www.cc26.info>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1450 From: John O’Halloran Date: 10/7/2006
Subject: Re: Announcing Costume-Con 26 Hotel and Room Rates

Coolness!

And you looked quite snappy in your business suit this evening.

JohnO

Kevin Roche wrote:

> I’m pleased to announce that today I signed the hotel contract for
> Costume-Con 26 with the DoubleTree Hotel San Jose, well-known site of
> many Bay Area conventions!
>
> Our room rates will be $92 for a standard room, 1-4 people.
>
> Note: Reservations cannot be made in our room block before April 24, 2007
>
> Further details will be posted as we have them!

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

 

Yahoo Archive: Page 28 of 67

 

Messages in runacc group. Page 28 of 67.

Group: runacc Message: 1351 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: drinking at CCs
Group: runacc Message: 1352 From: bruno Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297
Group: runacc Message: 1353 From: bruno Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: drinking at CCs
Group: runacc Message: 1354 From: Stephanie Carrigg Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297
Group: runacc Message: 1355 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297
Group: runacc Message: 1356 From: Ricky & Karen Dick Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297
Group: runacc Message: 1357 From: Ricky & Karen Dick Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: drinking at CCs
Group: runacc Message: 1358 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: drinking at CCs
Group: runacc Message: 1359 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 3/29/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297
Group: runacc Message: 1360 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 3/29/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297
Group: runacc Message: 1361 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 3/30/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297
Group: runacc Message: 1362 From: Kevin Roche Date: 3/30/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297
Group: runacc Message: 1363 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 3/30/2006
Subject: Blue laws
Group: runacc Message: 1364 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 3/30/2006
Subject: Re: Blue laws
Group: runacc Message: 1365 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 3/30/2006
Subject: Re: Blue laws
Group: runacc Message: 1366 From: Kevin Roche Date: 3/30/2006
Subject: Re: Blue laws
Group: runacc Message: 1367 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 3/30/2006
Subject: Re: Blue laws
Group: runacc Message: 1368 From: Kevin Roche Date: 3/30/2006
Subject: Re: Blue laws
Group: runacc Message: 1369 From: Stephanie Carrigg Date: 3/30/2006
Subject: Re: Blue laws
Group: runacc Message: 1370 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 3/30/2006
Subject: Re: Costume-Con 26 is in business!
Group: runacc Message: 1371 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 4/1/2006
Subject: PROGRESS! CC12 and CC23 photos and status of the Costume-Con site c
Group: runacc Message: 1372 From: bada.boom@comcast.net Date: 4/6/2006
Subject: Guess Who’s now going to CC!!
Group: runacc Message: 1373 From: Tina Date: 4/6/2006
Subject: Re: Guess Who’s now going to CC!!
Group: runacc Message: 1374 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 4/6/2006
Subject: Re: Guess Who’s now going to CC!!
Group: runacc Message: 1375 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 4/6/2006
Subject: Re: Guess Who’s now going to CC!!
Group: runacc Message: 1376 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 4/6/2006
Subject: Fashion folio costs…
Group: runacc Message: 1377 From: Stephanie Carrigg Date: 4/6/2006
Subject: Re: Guess Who’s now going to CC!!
Group: runacc Message: 1378 From: Byron Connell Date: 4/6/2006
Subject: Re: Guess Who’s now going to CC!!
Group: runacc Message: 1379 From: Stephanie Carrigg Date: 4/6/2006
Subject: Re: Guess Who’s now going to CC!!
Group: runacc Message: 1380 From: Stephanie Carrigg Date: 4/6/2006
Subject: Re: Guess Who’s now going to CC!!
Group: runacc Message: 1381 From: Byron Connell Date: 4/6/2006
Subject: Re: Guess Who’s now going to CC!!
Group: runacc Message: 1382 From: Ricky & Karen Dick Date: 4/7/2006
Subject: Re: Fashion folio costs…
Group: runacc Message: 1383 From: Trudy Leonard Date: 4/7/2006
Subject: Re: Fashion folio costs…
Group: runacc Message: 1384 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 4/7/2006
Subject: Re: Guess Who’s now going to CC!!
Group: runacc Message: 1385 From: Elaine Mami Date: 4/8/2006
Subject: Re: Guess Who’s now going to CC!!
Group: runacc Message: 1386 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 4/9/2006
Subject: FYI – upcoming dates
Group: runacc Message: 1387 From: Ricky & Karen Dick Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: Re: [cc25committee] [cc26sv-staff] [CostumeCon24] Costume-Con on My
Group: runacc Message: 1388 From: Stephanie Carrigg Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: Re: [cc25committee] [cc26sv-staff] [CostumeCon24] Costume-Con on My
Group: runacc Message: 1389 From: Kevin Roche Date: 4/15/2006
Subject: Costume-Con 26 enters merchandising madness…
Group: runacc Message: 1390 From: Trudy Leonard Date: 4/20/2006
Subject: Re: Guess Who’s now going to CC!!
Group: runacc Message: 1391 From: bada.boom@comcast.net Date: 4/20/2006
Subject: Re: Guess Who’s now going to CC!!
Group: runacc Message: 1392 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 4/20/2006
Subject: CC24 “meeting”
Group: runacc Message: 1393 From: Trudy Leonard Date: 4/20/2006
Subject: Re: Guess Who’s now going to CC!!
Group: runacc Message: 1394 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 4/20/2006
Subject: Re: CC24 “meeting”
Group: runacc Message: 1395 From: Andrew Trembley Date: 4/29/2006
Subject: Folio Publishing (Moving this over to RUNACC-was Re: [ICG-D] Repro
Group: runacc Message: 1396 From: bruno Date: 4/29/2006
Subject: Re: Folio Publishing (Moving this over to RUNACC-was Re: [ICG-D] R
Group: runacc Message: 1397 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 4/29/2006
Subject: Re: Folio Publishing (Moving this over to RUNACC-was Re: [ICG-D] R
Group: runacc Message: 1398 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 4/30/2006
Subject: Re: Folio Publishing (Moving this over to RUNACC-was Re: [ICG-D] R
Group: runacc Message: 1399 From: Trudy Leonard Date: 4/30/2006
Subject: Re: Folio Publishing (Moving this over to RUNACC-was Re: [ICG-D] Re
Group: runacc Message: 1400 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 4/30/2006
Subject: Re: Folio Publishing (Moving this over to RUNACC-was Re: [ICG-D] Re

 


 

Group: runacc Message: 1351 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: drinking at CCs

http://www.moderndrunkardmagazine.com/
This year’s convention in Las Vegas in June.

Nora

—– Original Message —–
From: “Ricky & Karen Dick” <castleb@atlanticbb.net>
To: <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [runacc] drinking at CCs

>I guess if we were actually smart, while we still don’t want a real
>meeting, I think a friday morning drink athon instead of the ICG meeting
>would work well.
>
> WHAT!?!, you’re all thinkin it, I’m just sayin it LOL
>
> Ricky
>
> —– Original Message —–
> From: Bruce & Nora Mai
> To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 7:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [runacc] drinking at CCs
>
>
> And if anyone needs any recipesfro anything odd, let me know. I find
> cocktail books irresistible – the pictures are so colorful.
> May I also refer you all to Modern Drunkard magazine – it’s a lifestyle.
>
> Nora
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
>
>
>
> ——————————————————————————
> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
> a.. Visit your group “runacc” on the web.
>
> b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> runacc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service.
>
>
> ——————————————————————————
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1352 From: bruno Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297

I have several vintage travel bars similar to this <http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-PORTABLE-PUB-TRAVEL-BAR-TRAVELING-BAR-SET-KEY_W0QQitemZ6266490396QQcategoryZ13906QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem>

How about if people each brought something local to share.

Michael

> ——-Original Message——-
> From: osierhenry@cs.com
> Subject: Re: [runacc] Digest Number 297
> Sent: 29 Mar ’06 00:05
>
> In a message dated 3/28/2006 1:19:12 PM Central Standard Time,
> ecmami@hotmail.com writes:
> > Something red, perhaps, with little pickled onions in them.
> I have a plethora of cocktail onions! I’ll bring them!
> Henry
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1353 From: bruno Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: drinking at CCs

Either 2004 or 2005 was in Denver, Didn’t know about it until I saw it on TV months later. But, I”m not really a drunkard either.

Michael

> ——-Original Message——-
> From: Bruce & Nora Mai <casamai@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [runacc] drinking at CCs
> Sent: 29 Mar ’06 01:08
>
> http://www.moderndrunkardmagazine.com/
> This year’s convention in Las Vegas in June.

 

Group: runacc Message: 1354 From: Stephanie Carrigg Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297

Damn that sounds like the gauntlet being thrown..

Ricky I know a great liquor store in Salem if you want me to send you
some local brew.

Stephie

On Mar 28, 2006, at 8:05 PM, Andrew T Trembley wrote:

> On Mar 28, 2006, at 5:01 PM, Ricky & Karen Dick wrote:
> > There’s gotta be some local DesMoines Bilge water Beer we can find.
>
> There’s a microbrewery right next to the Hotel Fort Des Moines.
> Bilgewater it ain’t.
>
> I’m not sure you’re butch enough to drink the Wasabi Vodka, though.
>
> —
> andy trembley, Bitchy Design Queen – http://www.bovil.com/
> San Jose, CA – ’72 R75/5 ’86 R100 (mine) – ’92 K75sa ’03 R1150R
> (Kevin’s)
> …remaining .sig trimmed for better message/.sig ratio
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
>
>
>
> SPONSORED LINKS
> Performing arts camp
> Performing arts schools
> School of performing arts
> Center for the performing arts
> Performing arts center
>
> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
> ▪  Visit your group “runacc” on the web.
>
> ▪  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>  runacc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> ▪  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service.
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1355 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297

Bet you can find some Genessee Cream Ale, and that’ll do in a pinch. Or
Utica Club, if that’s still available.

Iowa’s close enough to Western NY, right?

Ewwww…

-b

Ricky & Karen Dick wrote:

> AAACCKK , c’mon guys, don’t gay up alchoholism would ya 😉
> (Please don’t be offended, it’s a real phrase right? I mean, I think I heard it at the republican convention once LOL)
>
> There’s gotta be some local DesMoines Bilge water Beer we can find.
>
> Ricky



Betsy Delaney
*************************************************************************
http://www.hawkeswood.com/ * http://www.OutOftheBlackBox.org/
http://www.BarkingMad.org/ * http://www.sickpups.org/
http://www.Costume-Con.org/ * http://www.SchoolWithoutWalls.org/
*************************************************************************

 

Group: runacc Message: 1356 From: Ricky & Karen Dick Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297

LOL,
Wasabi Vodka?
Nope you win.

Ricky

—– Original Message —–
From: Andrew T Trembley
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [runacc] Digest Number 297

On Mar 28, 2006, at 5:01 PM, Ricky & Karen Dick wrote:
> There’s gotta be some local DesMoines Bilge water Beer we can find.

There’s a microbrewery right next to the Hotel Fort Des Moines.
Bilgewater it ain’t.

I’m not sure you’re butch enough to drink the Wasabi Vodka, though.


andy trembley, Bitchy Design Queen – http://www.bovil.com/
San Jose, CA – ’72 R75/5 ’86 R100 (mine) – ’92 K75sa ’03 R1150R
(Kevin’s)
…remaining .sig trimmed for better message/.sig ratio

View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/

SPONSORED LINKS Performing arts camp Performing arts schools School of performing arts
Center for the performing arts Performing arts center

——————————————————————————
YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS

a.. Visit your group “runacc” on the web.

b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
runacc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

——————————————————————————

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1357 From: Ricky & Karen Dick Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: drinking at CCs
Since Marty can’t make it ( something about some east coast con) We still have a bottle of his vampire wine we’ll bring in his honor.

Ricky

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1358 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: drinking at CCs

I have Vampyre Vodka (which is red) & Blavod (which is Black Vodka), makes
some scary looking cocktails.

Nora

—– Original Message —–
From: “Ricky & Karen Dick” <castleb@atlanticbb.net>
To: <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [runacc] drinking at CCs

> Since Marty can’t make it ( something about some east coast con) We still
> have a bottle of his vampire wine we’ll bring in his honor.
>
> Ricky
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1359 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 3/29/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297

On Mar 28, 2006, at 11:55 AM, bruno wrote:

> I was surprised at how much drinking there was at CC23. There seemed
> to be much more going on, than at previous CC’s (19, 17, 16). So I
> didn’t come prepared. I’ll be prepared for CC24 🙂

I think it’s CC getting back to it’s SF-con roots.


Andy Trembley, Bull-in-Drag
The Bovine Illuminati (It’s the Cows, Inc.)
http://www.bovil.com/
Moo!

 

Group: runacc Message: 1360 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 3/29/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297

In a message dated 3/29/2006 4:28:44 PM Central Standard Time,
attrembl@bovil.com writes:

> I think it’s CC getting back to it’s SF-con roots.

I’ll drink to that!
Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1361 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 3/30/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297
Michael,
I have a nice leather one I got from eBay. My landlord found me an
empty violin case portable bar.
Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1362 From: Kevin Roche Date: 3/30/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297

CC16 was suffering from local blue laws and CC17 from an over-reserved
hotel restaurant, as I recall.

You missed the lot of us sharing a case of wine in the back of the
ballroom 😉

(For those of you who don’t know, CC16 is where Andy and I met, and we
proceeded to consume — with assistance — all the wine he’d packed for
multiple conventions).

bruno wrote:

>I was surprised at how much drinking there was at CC23. There seemed to be much more going on, than at previous CC’s (19, 17, 16). So I didn’t come prepared. I’ll be prepared for CC24 🙂
>
>
>Michael
>
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1363 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 3/30/2006
Subject: Blue laws

What blue laws are you refering to, Kevin? We don’t have those anymore &
didn’t at the time of CC16 either.
Although we did have them when I was a child – many years ago.

Nora

—– Original Message —–
From: “Kevin Roche” <kevin@twistedimage.com>
> CC16 was suffering from local blue laws and CC17 from an over-reserved
> hotel restaurant, as I recall.

 

Group: runacc Message: 1364 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 3/30/2006
Subject: Re: Blue laws

On Mar 30, 2006, at 3:52 PM, Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:

> What blue laws are you refering to, Kevin? We don’t have those anymore
> &
> didn’t at the time of CC16 either.

The bar was closed on Sunday.


andy trembley, Bitchy Design Queen
http://www.irlm.org/ – mailto:webmaster@irlm.org
“Anybody who takes this seriously deserves to”
— Donna Barr

 

Group: runacc Message: 1365 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 3/30/2006
Subject: Re: Blue laws

Ah! That was actually the hotel’s call, not the law.

Nora

—– Original Message —–
From: “Andrew T Trembley” <attrembl@bovil.com>
To: <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [runacc] Blue laws

> On Mar 30, 2006, at 3:52 PM, Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:
>> What blue laws are you refering to, Kevin? We don’t have those anymore
>> &
>> didn’t at the time of CC16 either.
>
> The bar was closed on Sunday.
>
> —
> andy trembley, Bitchy Design Queen
> http://www.irlm.org/ – mailto:webmaster@irlm.org
> “Anybody who takes this seriously deserves to”
> — Donna Barr
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1366 From: Kevin Roche Date: 3/30/2006
Subject: Re: Blue laws

Really? We were led to believe that they couldn’t have the bar open, but
that they could serve drinks with meals in the restaurant due to some
odd elements in local liquor laws.

Kevin

Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:

>Ah! That was actually the hotel’s call, not the law.
>
>Nora
>–
>
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1367 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 3/30/2006
Subject: Re: Blue laws

That’s odd, there’s bars right across the highway from that hotel which are
open Sundays, several of them at the plaza & for just a mile or so around.
I think they just didn’t want to be, but I suppose there might be some weird
clause cause they’re acutally in an industrial court which maybe isn’t zoned
for regular liquor sales. The plaza is definitely zoned for entertainment
industries. They have several bars, restaurants & a comedy club.

Nora

—– Original Message —–
From: “Kevin Roche” <kevin@twistedimage.com>
To: <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [runacc] Blue laws

> Really? We were led to believe that they couldn’t have the bar open, but
> that they could serve drinks with meals in the restaurant due to some
> odd elements in local liquor laws.
>
> Kevin
>
> Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:
>
>>Ah! That was actually the hotel’s call, not the law.
>>
>>Nora
>>–
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1368 From: Kevin Roche Date: 3/30/2006
Subject: Re: Blue laws

maybe we were just too weird for their business-bar staff 😉

Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:

>That’s odd, there’s bars right across the highway from that hotel which are
>open Sundays, several of them at the plaza & for just a mile or so around.
>I think they just didn’t want to be, but I suppose there might be some weird
>clause cause they’re acutally in an industrial court which maybe isn’t zoned
>for regular liquor sales. The plaza is definitely zoned for entertainment
>industries. They have several bars, restaurants & a comedy club.
>
>Nora
>
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1369 From: Stephanie Carrigg Date: 3/30/2006
Subject: Re: Blue laws

In Massachusetts, blue laws referred to liquor stores or packies could
not be open on Sunday.
Thank the Martini Gods that this is no more.
Nothing was worse than having to drive to NH in order to get beer on a
Sunday.

Stephy

On Mar 30, 2006, at 7:15 PM, Andrew T Trembley wrote:

> On Mar 30, 2006, at 3:52 PM, Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:
> > What blue laws are you refering to, Kevin? We don’t have those
> anymore
> > &
> > didn’t at the time of CC16 either.
>
> The bar was closed on Sunday.
>
> —
> andy trembley, Bitchy Design Queen
> http://www.irlm.org/%c2%a0 –  mailto:webmaster@irlm.org
> “Anybody who takes this seriously deserves to”
>    — Donna Barr
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
>
>
>
> SPONSORED LINKS
> Performing arts camp
> Performing arts schools
> School of performing arts
> Center for the performing arts
> Performing arts center
>
> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
> ▪  Visit your group “runacc” on the web.
>
> ▪  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>  runacc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> ▪  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service.
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1370 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 3/30/2006
Subject: Re: Costume-Con 26 is in business!

And there was much rejoicing?

Thanks!

Betsy

Kevin Roche wrote:

> Just a quick update for folks who’ve been wondering.
>
> Today we surmounted the final paperwork hurdle and successfully opened
> the CC26 bank account.
>
> So to the 51 people who sent in voting fees — they are now happily
> deposited.
>
> Kevin



Betsy Delaney
*************************************************************************
http://www.hawkeswood.com/ * http://www.OutOftheBlackBox.org/
http://www.BarkingMad.org/ * http://www.sickpups.org/
http://www.Costume-Con.org/ * http://www.SchoolWithoutWalls.org/
*************************************************************************

 

Group: runacc Message: 1371 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 4/1/2006
Subject: PROGRESS! CC12 and CC23 photos and status of the Costume-Con site c
Hi, all!

I *just* uploaded all 97 costume photos from the SF, Historical and
Fashion Show/Single Pattern events at Costume-Con 23.

I still have the dolls to work on, and the statistics to include, but if
you want to see our work in progress, go visit:

http://costume-con.org/gallery2/

You’ll also find that CC12’s photos are now online, with the exception
of the Historical masquerade, because I don’t have those pictures in my
possession.

I will be doing the CC23 dolls next.

Then, unfortunately, I’m reduced to scanning again, at which point I’ll
add the photos for CC22 and CC21, and update the images for CC1.

Please note that this is a work in progress. We are still moving the
content from the static pages in the original photo galleries into the
new system. If you poke into a gallery that has no labels yet, you’ll
know we’re still working on it.

Thanks to *everyone* so far who’s contributed to this project! When
we’re all done, Kevin will provide me with the names of our assorted
volunteers, and you’ll be added to our About Us recognition pages as
contributors. (I need to add to that page already, because it’s horribly
out of date.)

More soon!

Betsy



Betsy Delaney
*************************************************************************
http://www.hawkeswood.com/ * http://www.OutOftheBlackBox.org/
http://www.BarkingMad.org/ * http://www.sickpups.org/
http://www.Costume-Con.org/ * http://www.SchoolWithoutWalls.org/
*************************************************************************

 

Group: runacc Message: 1372 From: bada.boom@comcast.net Date: 4/6/2006
Subject: Guess Who’s now going to CC!!
Yup.
little old me..
Got an offer that I could not refuse.
So I’m looking for airfare now. Any advice on what’s the best way to get to Des Moines?

Excited that I’ll get to see everyone and enjoy the conference.

See you all in a few months..
Stephanie

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1373 From: Tina Date: 4/6/2006
Subject: Re: Guess Who’s now going to CC!!

We can’t help you with that. We’re driving, via the Stratford Shakespeare Festival, so we haven’t priced plane fares.

Tina

—– Original Message —–
From: bada.boom@comcast.net<mailto:bada.boom@comcast.net>
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com<mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 8:44 AM
Subject: [runacc] Guess Who’s now going to CC!!

Yup.
little old me..
Got an offer that I could not refuse.
So I’m looking for airfare now. Any advice on what’s the best way to get to Des Moines?

Excited that I’ll get to see everyone and enjoy the conference.

See you all in a few months..
Stephanie

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/<http://www.costume-con.org/procedure/runacc/>
Yahoo! Groups Links

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1374 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 4/6/2006
Subject: Re: Guess Who’s now going to CC!!

Yeah!!!! We’re driving from St Louis so I’m no help, but looking forward to
seeing you.

Nora

—– Original Message —–
From: <bada.boom@comcast.net>
To: <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 7:44 AM
Subject: [runacc] Guess Who’s now going to CC!!

> Yup.
> little old me..
> Got an offer that I could not refuse.
> So I’m looking for airfare now. Any advice on what’s the best way to get
> to Des Moines?
>
> Excited that I’ll get to see everyone and enjoy the conference.
>
> See you all in a few months..
> Stephanie
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1375 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 4/6/2006
Subject: Re: Guess Who’s now going to CC!!

In a message dated 4/6/2006 8:24:10 AM Central Standard Time,
bada.boom@comcast.net writes:

> Any advice on what’s the best way to get to Des Moines?

Airship: Too Slow
Camel Caravan: Too Bumpy
Horse, Mule, or Burro: Can Be Smelly
Flying Saucer: It’s the 21st Century! Where are they?

Depends where you are coming from.
Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1376 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 4/6/2006
Subject: Fashion folio costs…
Question for previous committees:

What was your folio expense?
How many folios did you order?
Per copy cost?
How many folios did you have left over?
How many pages, and what sort of binding?

collecting this for our folio director


andy trembley, Bitchy Design Queen – http://www.bovil.com/

Play Internet Argument-Losing Bingo!
<http://www.shortpacked.com/d/20060405.html>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1377 From: Stephanie Carrigg Date: 4/6/2006
Subject: Re: Guess Who’s now going to CC!!

I found $259.00 roundtrip on American.
Has anyone tried Priceline?
Tempting but not sure I want to risk not knowing my flight times.

Stephanie

On Apr 6, 2006, at 6:47 PM, Tina wrote:

> We can’t help you with that.  We’re driving, via the Stratford
> Shakespeare Festival, so we haven’t priced plane fares.
>
> Tina
>   —– Original Message —–
>   From: bada.boom@comcast.net<mailto:bada.boom@comcast.net>
>   To: runacc@yahoogroups.com<mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com>
>   Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 8:44 AM
>   Subject: [runacc] Guess Who’s now going to CC!!
>
>
>   Yup.
>   little old me..
>   Got an offer that I could not refuse.
>   So I’m looking for airfare now.  Any advice on what’s the best way
> to get to Des Moines?
>
>   Excited that I’ll get to see everyone and enjoy the conference.
>
>   See you all in a few months..
>   Stephanie
>
>   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>   View the Document:
> http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/<http://www.costume-
> con.org/procedure/runacc/>
>   Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
>
>
>
> SPONSORED LINKS
> Performing arts camp
> Performing arts schools
> School of performing arts
> Center for the performing arts
> Performing arts center
>
> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
> ▪  Visit your group “runacc” on the web.
>
> ▪  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>  runacc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> ▪  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service.
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1378 From: Byron Connell Date: 4/6/2006
Subject: Re: Guess Who’s now going to CC!!

Great! Look forward to seeing you there. Entering the Historical?

Byron

—– Original Message —–
From: bada.boom@comcast.net<mailto:bada.boom@comcast.net>
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com<mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 8:44 AM
Subject: [runacc] Guess Who’s now going to CC!!

Yup.
little old me..
Got an offer that I could not refuse.
So I’m looking for airfare now. Any advice on what’s the best way to get to Des Moines?

Excited that I’ll get to see everyone and enjoy the conference.

See you all in a few months..
Stephanie

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/<http://www.costume-con.org/procedure/runacc/>

——————————————————————————
YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS

a.. Visit your group “runacc<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/runacc>” on the web.

b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
runacc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<mailto:runacc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe>

c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service<http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>.

——————————————————————————

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1379 From: Stephanie Carrigg Date: 4/6/2006
Subject: Re: Guess Who’s now going to CC!!

Very Excited to see you and everyone else!!

Got to figure out how to bring the booze on the plane.
Or maybe just buy in Des Moines.

Happy Happy,
Stephie

On Apr 6, 2006, at 6:54 PM, Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:

> Yeah!!!! We’re driving from St Louis so I’m no help, but looking
> forward to
> seeing you.
>
> Nora
> —– Original Message —–
> From: <bada.boom@comcast.net>
> To: <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 7:44 AM
> Subject: [runacc] Guess Who’s now going to CC!!
>
>
> > Yup.
> > little old me..
> > Got an offer that I could not refuse.
> > So I’m looking for airfare now.  Any advice on what’s the best way
> to get
> > to Des Moines?
> >
> > Excited that I’ll get to see everyone and enjoy the conference.
> >
> > See you all in a few months..
> > Stephanie
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
>
>
>
> SPONSORED LINKS
> Performing arts camp
> Performing arts schools
> School of performing arts
> Center for the performing arts
> Performing arts center
>
> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
> ▪  Visit your group “runacc” on the web.
>
> ▪  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>  runacc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> ▪  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service.
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1380 From: Stephanie Carrigg Date: 4/6/2006
Subject: Re: Guess Who’s now going to CC!!

I wish..
This was completely last minute for me.
So no competitions lined up for me.
*sigh*
This is my first time at a CC with NOTHING to be competed.
I may collapse from shock.

Stephie

On Apr 6, 2006, at 8:09 PM, Byron Connell wrote:

> Great!  Look forward to seeing you there.  Entering the Historical?
>
> Byron
>
>
>   —– Original Message —–
>   From: bada.boom@comcast.net<mailto:bada.boom@comcast.net>
>   To: runacc@yahoogroups.com<mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com>
>   Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 8:44 AM
>   Subject: [runacc] Guess Who’s now going to CC!!
>
>
>   Yup.
>   little old me..
>   Got an offer that I could not refuse.
>   So I’m looking for airfare now.  Any advice on what’s the best way
> to get to Des Moines?
>
>   Excited that I’ll get to see everyone and enjoy the conference.
>
>   See you all in a few months..
>   Stephanie
>
>   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>   View the Document:
> http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/<http://www.costume-
> con.org/procedure/runacc/>
>
>
>
>
> ———————————————————————–
> ——-
>   YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
>     a..  Visit your group
> “runacc<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/runacc>” on the web.
>
>     b..  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>
> runacc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<mailto:runacc-
> unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe>
>
>     c..  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service<http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>.
>
>
>
> ———————————————————————–
> ——-
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
>
>
> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
> ▪  Visit your group “runacc” on the web.
>
> ▪  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>  runacc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> ▪  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service.
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1381 From: Byron Connell Date: 4/6/2006
Subject: Re: Guess Who’s now going to CC!!

Enrique’s taxi?

Byron

—– Original Message —–
From: osierhenry@cs.com<mailto:osierhenry@cs.com>
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com<mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [runacc] Guess Who’s now going to CC!!

In a message dated 4/6/2006 8:24:10 AM Central Standard Time,
bada.boom@comcast.net<mailto:bada.boom@comcast.net> writes:
> Any advice on what’s the best way to get to Des Moines?
Airship: Too Slow
Camel Caravan: Too Bumpy
Horse, Mule, or Burro: Can Be Smelly
Flying Saucer: It’s the 21st Century! Where are they?

Depends where you are coming from.
Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1382 From: Ricky & Karen Dick Date: 4/7/2006
Subject: Re: Fashion folio costs…

If I recall for CC23…

I estimated $2/book for printing/binding 300 books.
The $2 estimate was just about dead on, but we didn’t end up printing 300 copies. Somewhere between 150 and 200 total, including a FREE copy to all participating designers, even if they were not members of the con.

We were printing on a laser printer on an “as-needed” basis, so no leftover copies. Leftover paper and plastic GBC binding spirals were minimal.

Folios were 70 pages (35 pages printed back to back on 20 pound stock), 64 pound card stock front and back covers, 3/8″ GBC comb bindings (borrowed a friend’s comb binder at work to do the binding).

Postage was $1.98 per Folio via First Class or $1.58 via Media Mail. Most went First Class, except to committee members and designers who weren’t attending the con. There were a handful of Folios that went to foreign countries that cost about $3.00 each to mail.

I think the total cost for each book was something like $4.18, including printing, binding, and postage.
YMMV, especially with a larger/heavier book.

–Karen

—– Original Message —–
From: Andrew T Trembley
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 7:50 PM
Subject: [runacc] Fashion folio costs…

Question for previous committees:

What was your folio expense?
How many folios did you order?
Per copy cost?
How many folios did you have left over?
How many pages, and what sort of binding?

collecting this for our folio director


andy trembley, Bitchy Design Queen – http://www.bovil.com/

Play Internet Argument-Losing Bingo!
<http://www.shortpacked.com/d/20060405.html>

View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/

——————————————————————————
YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS

a.. Visit your group “runacc” on the web.

b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
runacc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

——————————————————————————

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1383 From: Trudy Leonard Date: 4/7/2006
Subject: Re: Fashion folio costs…

Steve and Karen – could you guys comment on your part of the CC22 folio
expenses? I can give a rough estimate of how many were left.

Trudy

>From: Andrew T Trembley <attrembl@bovil.com>
>Reply-To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
>To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [runacc] Fashion folio costs…
>Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 16:50:53 -0700
>
>Question for previous committees:
>
>What was your folio expense?
>How many folios did you order?
>Per copy cost?
>How many folios did you have left over?
>How many pages, and what sort of binding?
>
>collecting this for our folio director
>
>–
>andy trembley, Bitchy Design Queen – http://www.bovil.com/
>
>Play Internet Argument-Losing Bingo!
><http://www.shortpacked.com/d/20060405.html>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1384 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 4/7/2006
Subject: Re: Guess Who’s now going to CC!!

In a message dated 4/6/2006 8:18:24 PM Central Standard Time,
bpconnell@verizon.net writes:

> Enrique’s taxi?

I hope you liked your lunch, cuz you might see it again!
Enrique O’Sure

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1385 From: Elaine Mami Date: 4/8/2006
Subject: Re: Guess Who’s now going to CC!!

We’ve priced plane fares, so we’re driving!

Elaine

Nil significat nisi oscillat!

>We can’t help you with that. We’re driving, via the Stratford Shakespeare
>Festival, so we haven’t priced plane fares.
>
>Tina
>
>
> Yup.
> little old me..
> Got an offer that I could not refuse.
> So I’m looking for airfare now. Any advice on what’s the best way to
>get to Des Moines?
>
> Excited that I’ll get to see everyone and enjoy the conference.
>
> See you all in a few months..
> Stephanie
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> View the Document:
>http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/<http://www.costume-con.org/procedure/runacc/>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1386 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 4/9/2006
Subject: FYI – upcoming dates
It’s one week until Easter.
Less than 7 weeks until CC24.
Just over 18 weeks to the CC25 Future Fashion Folio Deadline!

Submit early, submit often!

This has been a public service announcement.

Nora

 

Group: runacc Message: 1387 From: Ricky & Karen Dick Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: Re: [cc25committee] [cc26sv-staff] [CostumeCon24] Costume-Con on My
Costume-Con now has a MySpace account for promotional purposes. The address
is:

http://www.myspace.com/costumecon

I’m still in the process of putting it up, as Ricky and I have also been
mounting MySpace sites for Castle Blood and Franz Joseph Designs (my dad’s
STAR TREK biz) over the last week.

I hope to get some pics up on the MySpace site that will be a nice blend of
anime, media, historical, and original costumes, so people will be
interested enough to check CC out further.

There are also links to .org and .com from MySpace. The object is to drive
interested parties to the two CC sites, and from there to each of the
individual CC’s.

If any of you have MySpace accounts, please “friend” the costumecon MySpace
account.

We’re hoping this turns out to be a good way to network and get people
interested in CC who may not have come across it before. Sure seems to be
working for Castle Blood!

Thanks!

–Karen

 

Group: runacc Message: 1388 From: Stephanie Carrigg Date: 4/12/2006
Subject: Re: [cc25committee] [cc26sv-staff] [CostumeCon24] Costume-Con on My

Added CC to my MY Space page.

Steph

On Apr 12, 2006, at 10:37 AM, Ricky & Karen Dick wrote:

> Costume-Con now has a MySpace account for promotional purposes. The
> address
> is:
>
> http://www.myspace.com/costumecon
>
> I’m still in the process of putting it up, as Ricky and I have also
> been
> mounting MySpace sites for Castle Blood and Franz Joseph Designs (my
> dad’s
> STAR TREK biz) over the last week.
>
> I hope to get some pics up on the MySpace site that will be a nice
> blend of
> anime, media, historical, and original costumes, so people will be
> interested enough to check CC out further.
>
> There are also links to .org and .com from MySpace. The object is to
> drive
> interested parties to the two CC sites, and from there to each of the
> individual CC’s.
>
> If any of you have MySpace accounts, please “friend” the costumecon
> MySpace
> account.
>
> We’re hoping this turns out to be a good way to network and get people
> interested in CC who may not have come across it before. Sure seems
> to be
> working for Castle Blood!
>
> Thanks!
>
> –Karen
>
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
>
>
> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
> ▪  Visit your group “runacc” on the web.
>
> ▪  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>  runacc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> ▪  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service.
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1389 From: Kevin Roche Date: 4/15/2006
Subject: Costume-Con 26 enters merchandising madness…
That’s right…

Someone asked me when Costume-Con 26 T-shirts would be available (we
have a pretty vocal and visible group of supporters)…

And I discovered we had everything necessary to open our own CafePress shop.

Visit <http://www.cafepress.com/costumecon26> to see the early-bird
items we’ve put together so far.

Kevin

 

Group: runacc Message: 1390 From: Trudy Leonard Date: 4/20/2006
Subject: Re: Guess Who’s now going to CC!!

Stephanie –

Did you ever find a good fare to Des Moines? I got an email from
Travelocity this morning with a drop in fares (but, of course, that was from
Atlanta). Might be worth checking out though, if you are still looking.

Trudy

>From: bada.boom@comcast.net
>Reply-To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
>To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [runacc] Guess Who’s now going to CC!!
>Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:44:06 +0000
>
>Yup.
>little old me..
>Got an offer that I could not refuse.
>So I’m looking for airfare now. Any advice on what’s the best way to get
>to Des Moines?
>
>Excited that I’ll get to see everyone and enjoy the conference.
>
>See you all in a few months..
>Stephanie
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1391 From: bada.boom@comcast.net Date: 4/20/2006
Subject: Re: Guess Who’s now going to CC!!

Hi Trudy!
I’ll check.
I’ve got to book the tickets this week, so hopefully this will be so for Boston too!

Thanks for the heads up!
Stephanie

————– Original message ————–
From: “Trudy Leonard” <georgialei@hotmail.com>
Stephanie –

Did you ever find a good fare to Des Moines? I got an email from
Travelocity this morning with a drop in fares (but, of course, that was from
Atlanta). Might be worth checking out though, if you are still looking.

Trudy

>From: bada.boom@comcast.net
>Reply-To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
>To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [runacc] Guess Who’s now going to CC!!
>Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:44:06 +0000
>
>Yup.
>little old me..
>Got an offer that I could not refuse.
>So I’m looking for airfare now. Any advice on what’s the best way to get
>to Des Moines?
>
>Excited that I’ll get to see everyone and enjoy the conference.
>
>See you all in a few months..
>Stephanie
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/

YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS

Visit your group “runacc” on the web.

To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
runacc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1392 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 4/20/2006
Subject: CC24 “meeting”
I seem to recall the general tone of a “meeting” of all of us who are going
to be at CC24. Any thoughts about where and when?
Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1393 From: Trudy Leonard Date: 4/20/2006
Subject: Re: Guess Who’s now going to CC!!

You’re welcome. Glad you’re gonna be there!

Trudy

>From: bada.boom@comcast.net
>Reply-To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
>To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [runacc] Guess Who’s now going to CC!!
>Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:16:29 +0000
>
>Hi Trudy!
>I’ll check.
>I’ve got to book the tickets this week, so hopefully this will be so for
>Boston too!
>
>Thanks for the heads up!
>Stephanie
>
>————– Original message ————–
>From: “Trudy Leonard” <georgialei@hotmail.com>
>Stephanie –
>
>Did you ever find a good fare to Des Moines? I got an email from
>Travelocity this morning with a drop in fares (but, of course, that was
>from
>Atlanta). Might be worth checking out though, if you are still looking.
>
>Trudy
>
>
> >From: bada.boom@comcast.net
> >Reply-To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> >To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [runacc] Guess Who’s now going to CC!!
> >Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:44:06 +0000
> >
> >Yup.
> >little old me..
> >Got an offer that I could not refuse.
> >So I’m looking for airfare now. Any advice on what’s the best way to get
> >to Des Moines?
> >
> >Excited that I’ll get to see everyone and enjoy the conference.
> >
> >See you all in a few months..
> >Stephanie
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
>
>
>
>
>YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
> Visit your group “runacc” on the web.
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> runacc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1394 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 4/20/2006
Subject: Re: CC24 “meeting”

I think I heard something about a bar, the pool, or some combination of
the two, but I could be wrong… 9-)

-B

osierhenry@cs.com wrote:

> I seem to recall the general tone of a “meeting” of all of us who are going
> to be at CC24. Any thoughts about where and when?
> Henry



Betsy Delaney
*************************************************************************
http://www.hawkeswood.com/ * http://www.OutOftheBlackBox.org/
http://www.BarkingMad.org/ * http://www.sickpups.org/
http://www.Costume-Con.org/ * http://www.SchoolWithoutWalls.org/
*************************************************************************

 

Group: runacc Message: 1395 From: Andrew Trembley Date: 4/29/2006
Subject: Folio Publishing (Moving this over to RUNACC-was Re: [ICG-D] Repro

Ricky & Karen Dick wrote:

> Now, to be just as blunt to the designers, I don’t like, as a con chair, to be held hostage like that BUT until we have 50 people sending in designs each year, we can’t loose these folks who enter all the time, enter a large amount, and enter many of the best work.
>

I’m waiting to see what Dawn “Kaijugal” enters for St. Louis next year,
but she (if she does enter, nudge, nudge) illustrates the other side of
the coin. Having seen a folio now, she’s very excited about entering.

The folio has the same marketing problem as many Costume-Con committees
do (not promoting well outside the core constituency) but for different
reasons. Because the folios aren’t widely available to new potential
entrants, we don’t generate interest, excitement and new entrants.
They’re widely available to the core constituency, but that doesn’t grow
the competition.

Come spring 2007, our committee is going to have to start sitting fan
tables (I hate sitting fan tables). One of the things that *will* happen
is there will be a stash of folios through the years (we’ve got a
reasonable collection) at the table for people to look at.

andy

 

Group: runacc Message: 1396 From: bruno Date: 4/29/2006
Subject: Re: Folio Publishing (Moving this over to RUNACC-was Re: [ICG-D] R

Just make sure you keep an eye on them or chain them to a table. I don’t have any folios prior to CC23 because I used to take them to fan tables, and they were all stolen.

Michael

>
> Come spring 2007, our committee is going to have to start sitting fan
> tables (I hate sitting fan tables). One of the things that *will* happen
> is there will be a stash of folios through the years (we’ve got a
> reasonable collection) at the table for people to look at.
>
> andy

 

Group: runacc Message: 1397 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 4/29/2006
Subject: Re: Folio Publishing (Moving this over to RUNACC-was Re: [ICG-D] R

In a message dated 4/29/2006 8:34:00 PM Central Standard Time,
bruno@soulmasque.com writes:

> Just make sure you keep an eye on them or chain them to a table. I don’t
> have any folios prior to CC23 because I used to take them to fan tables, and
> they were all stolen.
>
> Michael

I think I have extras from CC21. I will find out tomorrow. Let me know if you
would like one.
Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1398 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 4/30/2006
Subject: Re: Folio Publishing (Moving this over to RUNACC-was Re: [ICG-D] R

At 08:41 PM 4/29/2006, you wrote:

I have a complete set of folios. I’ve been planning to scan them in.
I’ll try to do that this summer and send you the files. Then you can
print extras if some disappear.

Pierre

>In a message dated 4/29/2006 8:34:00 PM Central Standard Time,
>bruno@soulmasque.com writes:
> > Just make sure you keep an eye on them or chain them to a table. I don’t
> > have any folios prior to CC23 because I used to take them to fan
> tables, and
> > they were all stolen.
> >
> > Michael
>I think I have extras from CC21. I will find out tomorrow. Let me know if you
>would like one.
>Henry

“Those Who Fail To Learn History
Are Doomed to Repeat It;
Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly —
Why They Are Simply Doomed.

Achemdro’hm
“The Illusion of Historical Fact”
— C.Y. 4971

Andromeda

 

Group: runacc Message: 1399 From: Trudy Leonard Date: 4/30/2006
Subject: Re: Folio Publishing (Moving this over to RUNACC-was Re: [ICG-D] Re

Michael –

I still have quite a few from CC22 if you would like me to send you any.
Just give me an address.

Trudy

>From: “bruno” <bruno@soulmasque.com>
>Reply-To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
>To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [runacc] Folio Publishing (Moving this over to RUNACC-was Re:
>[ICG-D] Reproducing the Archives
>Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 01:33:51 +0000
>
>Just make sure you keep an eye on them or chain them to a table. I don’t
>have any folios prior to CC23 because I used to take them to fan tables,
>and they were all stolen.
>
>Michael
>
>
> >
> > Come spring 2007, our committee is going to have to start sitting fan
> > tables (I hate sitting fan tables). One of the things that *will*
>happen
> > is there will be a stash of folios through the years (we’ve got a
> > reasonable collection) at the table for people to look at.
> >
> > andy

 

Group: runacc Message: 1400 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 4/30/2006
Subject: Re: Folio Publishing (Moving this over to RUNACC-was Re: [ICG-D] Re

In a message dated 4/30/2006 3:58:03 PM Central Standard Time,
georgialei@hotmail.com writes:

> >From: “bruno” <bruno@soulmasque.com>
> >Reply-To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> >To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [runacc] Folio Publishing (Moving this over to RUNACC-was Re:
>
> >[ICG-D] Reproducing the Archives
> >Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 01:33:51 +0000
> >
> >Just make sure you keep an eye on them or chain them to a table. I don’t
> >have any folios prior to CC23 because I used to take them to fan tables,
> >and they were all stolen.
> >
> >Michael
> >

Michael,
I just located the extra FFF from CC21. I have plenty of extras. Send
me your mailing address and I will get one out to you in the mail this week.
As soon as I get a count on them, in a few days, I will make them
available to archives, then anyone in this group.
Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

 

Yahoo Archive: Page 27 of 67

 

Messages in runacc group. Page 27 of 67.

Group: runacc Message: 1301 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 1/20/2006
Subject: Re: Educatinal materials – Elaine
Group: runacc Message: 1302 From: Elaine Mami Date: 1/20/2006
Subject: Re: Educatinal materials – Elaine
Group: runacc Message: 1303 From: Elaine Mami Date: 1/20/2006
Subject: 3 files
Group: runacc Message: 1304 From: Andrew Trembley Date: 1/21/2006
Subject: Re: 3 files
Group: runacc Message: 1305 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 2/13/2006
Subject: PayPal…
Group: runacc Message: 1306 From: dave@techvoice.com Date: 2/13/2006
Subject: Re: PayPal…
Group: runacc Message: 1307 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 2/13/2006
Subject: Re: PayPal…
Group: runacc Message: 1308 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 2/14/2006
Subject: Re: PayPal…
Group: runacc Message: 1309 From: Les Roth Date: 2/17/2006
Subject: Re: PayPal…
Group: runacc Message: 1310 From: David Doering Date: 2/17/2006
Subject: Re: PayPal…
Group: runacc Message: 1311 From: Ricky & Karen Dick Date: 3/24/2006
Subject: Stay on Target, Stay on Target
Group: runacc Message: 1312 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 3/25/2006
Subject: Re: Stay on Target, Stay on Target
Group: runacc Message: 1313 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 3/25/2006
Subject: Re: Stay on Target, Stay on Target
Group: runacc Message: 1314 From: Kevin Roche Date: 3/26/2006
Subject: Re: Stay on Target, Stay on Target
Group: runacc Message: 1315 From: Ricky & Karen Dick Date: 3/26/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 295
Group: runacc Message: 1316 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 3/26/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 295
Group: runacc Message: 1317 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 3/26/2006
Subject: Re: Stay on Target, Stay on Target
Group: runacc Message: 1318 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 3/26/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 295
Group: runacc Message: 1319 From: Stephanie Carrigg Date: 3/26/2006
Subject: Re: Stay on Target, Stay on Target
Group: runacc Message: 1320 From: Stephanie Carrigg Date: 3/26/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 295
Group: runacc Message: 1321 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 3/26/2006
Subject: Drinking meetings
Group: runacc Message: 1322 From: Tina Date: 3/27/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 295
Group: runacc Message: 1323 From: Elaine Mami Date: 3/27/2006
Subject: Re: Drinking meetings
Group: runacc Message: 1324 From: martingear Date: 3/27/2006
Subject: Re: Drinking meetings
Group: runacc Message: 1325 From: Kevin Roche Date: 3/27/2006
Subject: Re: Drinking meetings
Group: runacc Message: 1326 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 3/27/2006
Subject: Re: Drinking meetings
Group: runacc Message: 1327 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 3/27/2006
Subject: Re: Drinking meetings
Group: runacc Message: 1328 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 3/27/2006
Subject: Way OT – nowhere near the target (Re: [runacc] Drinking meetings)
Group: runacc Message: 1329 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 3/27/2006
Subject: Re: Way OT – nowhere near the target (Re: [runacc] Drinking meeting
Group: runacc Message: 1330 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Drinking meetings
Group: runacc Message: 1331 From: Kevin Roche Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Drinking meetings
Group: runacc Message: 1332 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Bringing us back from the bar for a moment…
Group: runacc Message: 1333 From: Ricky & Karen Dick Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297
Group: runacc Message: 1334 From: Karen Heim Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297
Group: runacc Message: 1335 From: bada.boom@comcast.net Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297
Group: runacc Message: 1336 From: Trudy Leonard Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Bringing us back from the bar for a moment…
Group: runacc Message: 1337 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Bringing us back from the bar for a moment…
Group: runacc Message: 1338 From: Elaine Mami Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297
Group: runacc Message: 1339 From: bruno Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297
Group: runacc Message: 1340 From: Elaine Mami Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: drinking at CCs
Group: runacc Message: 1341 From: bruno Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297
Group: runacc Message: 1342 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297
Group: runacc Message: 1343 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Drinking meetings
Group: runacc Message: 1344 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297
Group: runacc Message: 1345 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297
Group: runacc Message: 1346 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: drinking at CCs
Group: runacc Message: 1347 From: Ricky & Karen Dick Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: drinking at CCs
Group: runacc Message: 1348 From: Ricky & Karen Dick Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297
Group: runacc Message: 1349 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297
Group: runacc Message: 1350 From: Tina Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: drinking at CCs

 


 

Group: runacc Message: 1301 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 1/20/2006
Subject: Re: Educatinal materials – Elaine

You need to log into Yahoo groups for runacc, then go to the left side and
click on the link to files. Let us know if you’re still having trouble.

Bruce

—– Original Message —–
From: “Elaine Mami” <ecmami@hotmail.com>
To: <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:05 AM
Subject: RE: [runacc] Educatinal materials

> Bruce,
>
> Where are the documents? I can only find the costumeconnections site.
>
> Elaine
>
> Nil significat nisi oscillat!
>
>
>
>
>
>>From: “Bruce & Nora Mai” <casamai@sbcglobal.net>
>>Reply-To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
>>To: <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
>>Subject: [runacc] Educatinal materials
>>Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 09:57:34 -0600
>>
>>It occured to me that, beyond the flyers, newbies often don’t have a
>>complete picture of what to expect at a CC. So I wrote up these 3
>>documents, which I’ve uploaded to the runacc group.
>>The intentinois to send them with the PR(s) to anyone who identifies
>>themselves as a “first-timer”.
>>
>>If anyone has any additions they’d like to suggest, I would welcome them –
>>especially the “Do’s and Don’ts”
>>
>>Bruce
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1302 From: Elaine Mami Date: 1/20/2006
Subject: Re: Educatinal materials – Elaine

Duh! I was using the link in the message. Thanks,

Elaine

Nil significat nisi oscillat!

>You need to log into Yahoo groups for runacc, then go to the left side and
>click on the link to files. Let us know if you’re still having trouble.
>
>Bruce

 

Group: runacc Message: 1303 From: Elaine Mami Date: 1/20/2006
Subject: 3 files
I do like the 3 info. files, although the main one is really rather long.
On the Dos and Donts page, please add: DO drink plenty of water, because
hotels are notoriously dehydrating.

Elaine

 

Group: runacc Message: 1304 From: Andrew Trembley Date: 1/21/2006
Subject: Re: 3 files

Elaine Mami wrote:

> I do like the 3 info. files, although the main one is really rather long.
> On the Dos and Donts page, please add: DO drink plenty of water, because
> hotels are notoriously dehydrating.
>

Burt’s Bees (or other lip balm).

Keep something in your pocket. Apply regularly. If you don’t, and wait
’til your lips are dry, you’ll be too late.

(written from a hotel, 2 days in.)

andy

 

Group: runacc Message: 1305 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 2/13/2006
Subject: PayPal…
So all this PayPal discussion over on ICG-D (yeah, OK, it wasn’t
much…)

It’s best to just factor in the transaction cost for PayPal or other
credit processing into the base membership rate. Then you don’t have to
worry about it being “cost effective,” It’s already budgeted for, and
is available through the whole process.

That said, a cynical approach is to not open PayPal services until the
last rate-hike. The last pre-reg rate should have enough buffer in it
to cover the processing costs. It also gets (and this is the cynical
part) folks who won’t do anything but PayPal or cash in-person waiting
until the rates are highest to register.


andy trembley, Bitchy Design Queen – http://www.bovil.com/
San Jose, CA – ’72 R75/5 ’86 R100 (mine) – ’92 K75sa ’03 R1150R
(Kevin’s)
…remaining .sig trimmed for better message/.sig ratio

 

Group: runacc Message: 1306 From: dave@techvoice.com Date: 2/13/2006
Subject: Re: PayPal…
As I may have mentioned before, our experience at CC23 was that between
1/3 and 1/2 of our memberships came via PayPal. The first one sold that
way within 24 hours of my opening up that option on the webpage.

When we reviewed the fee structure, we opted to just incorporate it into
the membership rate, rather than as a separate item. This given that if we
had accepted just checks, we would have had to budget for returned check
fees for at least a few such items.

Overall, I would not do another con without setting up a PayPal (or credit
card/merchant account) right from the start.

Dave Doering
Co-Chair
CC23: Utah

 

Group: runacc Message: 1307 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 2/13/2006
Subject: Re: PayPal…

Good points, as usual, Andy.

I’m guessing we may wind up doing that. I’m wondering if Dave’s experience
may be unique, though, given the attending numbers. At this point, we’ve
already set our rates, so factoring Paypal at this point is not something
I’m keen on doing.

Bruce

—– Original Message —–
From: “Andrew T Trembley” <attrembl@bovil.com>
To: <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 6:19 PM
Subject: [runacc] PayPal…

> That said, a cynical approach is to not open PayPal services until the
> last rate-hike. The last pre-reg rate should have enough buffer in it
> to cover the processing costs. It also gets (and this is the cynical
> part) folks who won’t do anything but PayPal or cash in-person waiting
> until the rates are highest to register.
>
> —
> andy trembley, Bitchy Design Queen – http://www.bovil.com/
> San Jose, CA – ’72 R75/5 ’86 R100 (mine) – ’92 K75sa ’03 R1150R
> (Kevin’s)
> …remaining .sig trimmed for better message/.sig ratio
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1308 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 2/14/2006
Subject: Re: PayPal…

On Feb 13, 2006, at 8:26 PM, Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:

> Good points, as usual, Andy.
>
> I’m guessing we may wind up doing that. I’m wondering if Dave’s
> experience
> may be unique, though, given the attending numbers. At this point,
> we’ve
> already set our rates, so factoring Paypal at this point is not
> something
> I’m keen on doing.

The only thing missing from Dave’s note is when CC23 implemented
PayPal. That would give us a bit more context to evaluate his numbers.
I don’t think, though, that his experience is anything unique.


andy trembley, Bitchy Design Queen – http://www.bovil.com/
San Jose, CA – ’72 R75/5 ’86 R100 (mine) – ’92 K75sa ’03 R1150R
(Kevin’s)
“It’s not pink, it’s peach-colored. Pink is tacky.”
–Manfred Pfirsich Marie Rommel

2nd most important safety device on my bike: the one beneath my right
hand
Most important safety device on my bike: the one inside my helmet

 

Group: runacc Message: 1309 From: Les Roth Date: 2/17/2006
Subject: Re: PayPal…

CC24 has had online registration up since October, and have had
approximately 20 memberships come via PayPal. We’ve decided to eat
the PayPal cost ourselves rather than raising our rates.

One request, please do not do what Capricon did this year. They
charged an additional $2 to register online (for a $40 membership)
but never notified the user of this. The only notice of a surcharge,
was when you’re dumped into PayPal and the fee is listed at $42,
instead of $40, with no indication of why the price wasn’t what they
quoted on their web page. Very poor form, in my opinion. If you’re
going to charge a surcharge, please have the decency to let folks
know upfront.

Les

Live, never to be ashamed if everything you do is published around the
world. Even if what is published is not true. — Richard Bach

On Feb 14, 2006, at 3:45 PM, Andrew T Trembley wrote:

> On Feb 13, 2006, at 8:26 PM, Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:
>> Good points, as usual, Andy.
>>
>> I’m guessing we may wind up doing that. I’m wondering if Dave’s
>> experience
>> may be unique, though, given the attending numbers. At this point,
>> we’ve
>> already set our rates, so factoring Paypal at this point is not
>> something
>> I’m keen on doing.
>
> The only thing missing from Dave’s note is when CC23 implemented
> PayPal. That would give us a bit more context to evaluate his numbers.
> I don’t think, though, that his experience is anything unique.
>
> —
> andy trembley, Bitchy Design Queen – http://www.bovil.com/
> San Jose, CA – ’72 R75/5 ’86 R100 (mine) – ’92 K75sa ’03 R1150R
> (Kevin’s)
> “It’s not pink, it’s peach-colored. Pink is tacky.”
> –Manfred Pfirsich Marie Rommel
>
> 2nd most important safety device on my bike: the one beneath my right
> hand
> Most important safety device on my bike: the one inside my helmet
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1310 From: David Doering Date: 2/17/2006
Subject: Re: PayPal…

Les wrote:

>”If you’re going to charge a surcharge, please have the decency to let folks
>know upfront.”

Whether its a hotel or the con, putting unexpected fees on is a sure
way to create big problems. This is even more surprising since you
have to write the webpage that calls PayPal up anyway, you should be
able to immediately add that verbiage.

Dave Doering
CC23: Utah

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1311 From: Ricky & Karen Dick Date: 3/24/2006
Subject: Stay on Target, Stay on Target
To all our friends on the Runacc list,
we’re sorry to be sending this right now, as we’re sure the last thing you
need is more email about costuming.

But we wanted to be sure we are all on the same page re Costume-Con.

We know many of you are quite ‘active’ in the goings on over on the ICG-D
list right now.
We hold in our hearts that you are all acting on good faith and doing what
your conscience tells you is right.

You will notice we are staying completely out of the turmoil.

Our first and only concern, past making costumes, is the smooth running of
and upholding the continuity of Costime-Con.

We hope everyone realizes that whatever is going on with the ICG and
whatever our opinions of it are, we here must be sure that no harm comes to
the reputation of CC, and especially that no harm comes to the three active
seated conventions. We must work to let people know that at CC they are free
to enjoy costumes as they wish, in a fun atmosphere, with club politics only
affecting them if they choose to let it.

Strong statements on the ICG list polarize people’s opinions, and we need to
support each other so that there are no negative feelings associated with
any CC because of that.

Now we come to the latest weapon people use to beat each other up with:
Anime costumes. CC obviously will welcome Anime costumes with open arms. To
that end, Bruce Mai, Kevin Roche, and Ricky all have joined cosplay.com and
been active both in talking about CC, and even better, have been helpful in
answering questions on the topics that these folks have questions about,
like makeup, armour, green rooms, and more.

And now we, with a great deal of help from ‘friendlies’ in the cosplay
community, have arranged that CC will have its own subforum on cosplay.com,
right there with Comic Con, Dragon Con and all the tons of anime cons.
The Powers That Be have realized that we are trying to be inclusive and that
their members would benefit from a CC forum. How cool is that?

We all have talked in the past about ways to have a full time CC promotion
effort and this is a GREAT one.

So, in spite of whatever differences of opinion are taking place on the
ICG-D, let’s try not to kill each other over there, and let’s make sure that
no matter what else happens, that the next 3 CC’s go as well as we hope they
will.

Karen and Ricky

 

Group: runacc Message: 1312 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 3/25/2006
Subject: Re: Stay on Target, Stay on Target

AMEN Brother and Sister!!!

Cheers,

Betsy

Ricky & Karen Dick wrote:

> To all our friends on the Runacc list,
> we’re sorry to be sending this right now, as we’re sure the last thing you
> need is more email about costuming.
>
> But we wanted to be sure we are all on the same page re Costume-Con.



Betsy Delaney
*************************************************************************
http://www.hawkeswood.com/ * http://www.OutOftheBlackBox.org/
http://www.BarkingMad.org/ * http://www.sickpups.org/
http://www.Costume-Con.org/ * http://www.SchoolWithoutWalls.org/
*************************************************************************

 

Group: runacc Message: 1313 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 3/25/2006
Subject: Re: Stay on Target, Stay on Target

At 10:36 PM 3/24/2006, you wrote:

>Now we come to the latest weapon people use to beat each other up with:
>Anime costumes. CC obviously will welcome Anime costumes with open arms. To
>that end, Bruce Mai, Kevin Roche, and Ricky all have joined cosplay.com and
>been active both in talking about CC, and even better, have been helpful in
>answering questions on the topics that these folks have questions about,
>like makeup, armour, green rooms, and more.

Send me the sign up info for cosplay.com and I’ll help with this.

Pierre

>And now we, with a great deal of help from ‘friendlies’ in the cosplay
>community, have arranged that CC will have its own subforum on cosplay.com,
>right there with Comic Con, Dragon Con and all the tons of anime cons.
>The Powers That Be have realized that we are trying to be inclusive and that
>their members would benefit from a CC forum. How cool is that?
>
>We all have talked in the past about ways to have a full time CC promotion
>effort and this is a GREAT one.
>
>So, in spite of whatever differences of opinion are taking place on the
>ICG-D, let’s try not to kill each other over there, and let’s make sure that
>no matter what else happens, that the next 3 CC’s go as well as we hope they
>will.
>
>Karen and Ricky

“Those Who Fail To Learn History
Are Doomed to Repeat It;
Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly —
Why They Are Simply Doomed.

Achemdro’hm
“The Illusion of Historical Fact”
— C.Y. 4971

Andromeda

 

Group: runacc Message: 1314 From: Kevin Roche Date: 3/26/2006
Subject: Re: Stay on Target, Stay on Target

Navigate to cosplay.com

Click on Forums in the masthead
Click on Register in the forums masthead

Follow through the procedure to creat your account.

Easy 🙂

Kevin

>Send me the sign up info for cosplay.com and I’ll help with this.
>
>Pierre
>
>
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1315 From: Ricky & Karen Dick Date: 3/26/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 295

Thanks Pierre,
your calm approach will be well served over there and thanks Kevin for
getting him the info.

The CC forum isn’t up yet as the administrator is at a con this weekend.
They still do call them cons don’t they?
I mean I’m still takig in the part where we aren’t supposed to say costuming
anymore LOL
( just a joke, please leave the ICG stuff off of here)
hopefully it will be up this week.
With all the effort Kevin has been making on the archives it really has
pushed us to work on the year round angles of CC and we hope to have other
stuff to share with you by CC.
We don’t want another runacc meeting or anything. some of you will be in no
mood for more meetings I bet.
but we will keep you up to date on what’s happening and what we need help
with.
Anything we’re ready to chat with you at cc about will be in position to
send to this list as well, so anyone not attending will always be kept up to
speed.

but we do have some fun things we’d like to do and will need the envolvement
of others to make it happen.

Ricky

—– Original Message —–
From: <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
To: <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 4:49 AM
Subject: [runacc] Digest Number 295

> There are 3 messages in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. Re: Stay on Target, Stay on Target
> From: Betsy Delaney <bdelaney@hawkeswood.com>
> 2. Re: Stay on Target, Stay on Target
> From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger <costumrs@radiks.net>
> 3. Re: Stay on Target, Stay on Target
> From: Kevin Roche <kevin@twistedimage.com>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 09:20:13 -0500
> From: Betsy Delaney <bdelaney@hawkeswood.com>
> Subject: Re: Stay on Target, Stay on Target
>
> AMEN Brother and Sister!!!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Betsy
>
> Ricky & Karen Dick wrote:
> > To all our friends on the Runacc list,
> > we’re sorry to be sending this right now, as we’re sure the last thing
you
> > need is more email about costuming.
> >
> > But we wanted to be sure we are all on the same page re Costume-Con.
>
>
> —
> —
> Betsy Delaney
> *************************************************************************
> http://www.hawkeswood.com/ * http://www.OutOftheBlackBox.org/
> http://www.BarkingMad.org/ * http://www.sickpups.org/
> http://www.Costume-Con.org/ * http://www.SchoolWithoutWalls.org/
> *************************************************************************
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 09:39:31 -0600
> From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger <costumrs@radiks.net>
> Subject: Re: Stay on Target, Stay on Target
>
> At 10:36 PM 3/24/2006, you wrote:
>
> >Now we come to the latest weapon people use to beat each other up with:
> >Anime costumes. CC obviously will welcome Anime costumes with open arms.
To
> >that end, Bruce Mai, Kevin Roche, and Ricky all have joined cosplay.com
and
> >been active both in talking about CC, and even better, have been helpful
in
> >answering questions on the topics that these folks have questions about,
> >like makeup, armour, green rooms, and more.
>
> Send me the sign up info for cosplay.com and I’ll help with this.
>
> Pierre
>
> >And now we, with a great deal of help from ‘friendlies’ in the cosplay
> >community, have arranged that CC will have its own subforum on
cosplay.com,
> >right there with Comic Con, Dragon Con and all the tons of anime cons.
> >The Powers That Be have realized that we are trying to be inclusive and
that
> >their members would benefit from a CC forum. How cool is that?
> >
> >We all have talked in the past about ways to have a full time CC
promotion
> >effort and this is a GREAT one.
> >
> >So, in spite of whatever differences of opinion are taking place on the
> >ICG-D, let’s try not to kill each other over there, and let’s make sure
that
> >no matter what else happens, that the next 3 CC’s go as well as we hope
they
> >will.
> >
> >Karen and Ricky
>
> “Those Who Fail To Learn History
> Are Doomed to Repeat It;
> Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly —
> Why They Are Simply Doomed.
>
> Achemdro’hm
> “The Illusion of Historical Fact”
> — C.Y. 4971
>
> Andromeda
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:22:45 -0800
> From: Kevin Roche <kevin@twistedimage.com>
> Subject: Re: Stay on Target, Stay on Target
>
> Navigate to cosplay.com
>
> Click on Forums in the masthead
> Click on Register in the forums masthead
>
> Follow through the procedure to creat your account.
>
> Easy 🙂
>
> Kevin
>
> >Send me the sign up info for cosplay.com and I’ll help with this.
> >
> >Pierre
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
> ————————————————————————
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
> ————————————————————————
>
>
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1316 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 3/26/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 295

Inserted comments – Nora

—– Original Message —–
From: “Ricky & Karen Dick” <castleb@atlanticbb.net>
> The CC forum isn’t up yet as the administrator is at a con this weekend.
> They still do call them cons don’t they?
> I mean I’m still takig in the part where we aren’t supposed to say
> costuming
> anymore LOL
“differently-wardrobed”? Is that PC enough, as well as totally unclear.

> We don’t want another runacc meeting or anything. some of you will be in
> no
> mood for more meetings I bet.
Meetings are fine as long as they’re in the bar or the pool.

> but we do have some fun things we’d like to do and will need the
> envolvement
> of others to make it happen.
Fun things? Are we still allowed to do fun things? Wow, that would be so
cool!

 

Group: runacc Message: 1317 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 3/26/2006
Subject: Re: Stay on Target, Stay on Target

In a message dated 3/24/2006 10:35:57 PM Central Standard Time,
castleb@atlanticbb.net writes:

> You will notice we are staying completely out of the turmoil.

Ricky, Karen, and everyone else,
This is all “F”ing nuts, in my opinion.
I do agree that we in this group do not let it interfere with CC’s. I
wouldn’t be bidding for another one if I thought CC’s were “F”ing nuts.

Henry Osier
Chief Spy
CostumeCon 28 Bid in Milwaukee in 2010
e-mail CC2010Milw@cs.com for more information
or visit http://www.geocities.com/dandyhank/CC28Milwaukee2010.html

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1318 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 3/26/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 295

In a message dated 3/26/2006 1:15:25 PM Central Standard Time,
casamai@sbcglobal.net writes:

> Meetings are fine as long as they’re in the bar or the pool.
>

I’ll drink to that motion!

> Fun things? Are we still allowed to do fun things? Wow, that would be so
> cool!

Nora, TAG! You’re it! 🙂
Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1319 From: Stephanie Carrigg Date: 3/26/2006
Subject: Re: Stay on Target, Stay on Target

If more pro-CC folks are needed on Cosplay.com just say the word and
I’ll be there to support in any way I can.

Stephanie

On Mar 24, 2006, at 11:36 PM, Ricky & Karen Dick wrote:

> To all our friends on the Runacc list,
> we’re sorry to be sending this right now, as we’re sure the last
> thing you
> need is more email about costuming.
>
> But we wanted to be sure we are all on the same page re Costume-Con.
>
> We know many of you are quite ‘active’ in the goings on over on the
> ICG-D
> list right now.
> We hold in our hearts that you are all acting on good faith and doing
> what
> your conscience tells you is right.
>
> You will notice we are staying completely out of the turmoil.
>
> Our first and only concern, past making costumes, is the smooth
> running of
> and upholding the continuity of Costime-Con.
>
> We hope everyone realizes that whatever is going on with the ICG and
> whatever our opinions of it are, we here must be sure that no harm
> comes to
> the reputation of CC, and especially that no harm comes to the three
> active
> seated conventions. We must work to let people know that at CC they
> are free
> to enjoy costumes as they wish, in a fun atmosphere, with club
> politics only
> affecting them if they choose to let it.
>
> Strong statements on the ICG list polarize people’s opinions, and we
> need to
> support each other so that there are no negative feelings associated
> with
> any CC because of that.
>
> Now we come to the latest weapon people use to beat each other up
> with:
> Anime costumes. CC obviously will welcome Anime costumes with open
> arms. To
> that end, Bruce Mai, Kevin Roche, and Ricky all have joined
> cosplay.com and
> been active both in talking about CC, and even better, have been
> helpful in
> answering questions on the topics that these folks have questions
> about,
> like makeup, armour, green rooms, and more.
>
> And now we, with  a great deal of help from ‘friendlies’ in the
> cosplay
> community, have arranged that CC will have its own subforum on
> cosplay.com,
> right there with Comic Con, Dragon Con and all the tons of anime cons.
> The Powers That Be have realized that we are trying to be inclusive
> and that
> their members would benefit from a CC forum. How cool is that?
>
> We all have talked in the past about ways to have a full time CC
> promotion
> effort and this is a GREAT one.
>
> So, in spite of whatever differences of opinion are taking place on
> the
> ICG-D, let’s try not to kill each other over there, and let’s make
> sure that
> no matter what else happens, that the next 3 CC’s go as well as we
> hope they
> will.
>
> Karen and Ricky
>
>
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
>
>
> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
> ▪  Visit your group “runacc” on the web.
>
> ▪  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>  runacc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> ▪  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service.
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1320 From: Stephanie Carrigg Date: 3/26/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 295

From Nora,

> > We don’t want another runacc meeting or anything. some of you will
> be in
> > no
> > mood for more meetings I bet.
> Meetings are fine as long as they’re in the bar or the pool.

As long as there are LARGE, filled to the rim drinks that contain
copious amounts of booze at said meeting at said bar or pool.

🙂
Stephanie

On Mar 26, 2006, at 2:15 PM, Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:

> Inserted comments – Nora
> —– Original Message —–
> From: “Ricky & Karen Dick” <castleb@atlanticbb.net>
> > The CC forum isn’t up yet as the administrator is at a con this
> weekend.
> > They still do call them cons don’t they?
> > I mean I’m still takig in the part where we aren’t supposed to say
> > costuming
> > anymore LOL
> “differently-wardrobed”? Is that PC enough, as well as totally
> unclear.
>
> > We don’t want another runacc meeting or anything. some of you will
> be in
> > no
> > mood for more meetings I bet.
> Meetings are fine as long as they’re in the bar or the pool.
>
>
> > but we do have some fun things we’d like to do and will need the
> > envolvement
> > of others to make it happen.
> Fun things? Are we still allowed to do fun things? Wow, that would be
> so
> cool!
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
>
>
> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
> ▪  Visit your group “runacc” on the web.
>
> ▪  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>  runacc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> ▪  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service.
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1321 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 3/26/2006
Subject: Drinking meetings

How about a bar by/at/in the pool? Best of all worlds.

Nora

—– Original Message —–
From: “Stephanie Carrigg” <bada.boom@comcast.net>
To: <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [runacc] Digest Number 295

From Nora,
> > We don’t want another runacc meeting or anything. some of you will
> be in
> > no
> > mood for more meetings I bet.
> Meetings are fine as long as they’re in the bar or the pool.

As long as there are LARGE, filled to the rim drinks that contain
copious amounts of booze at said meeting at said bar or pool.

🙂
Stephanie

On Mar 26, 2006, at 2:15 PM, Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:

> Inserted comments – Nora
> —– Original Message —–
> From: “Ricky & Karen Dick” <castleb@atlanticbb.net>
> > The CC forum isn’t up yet as the administrator is at a con this
> weekend.
> > They still do call them cons don’t they?
> > I mean I’m still takig in the part where we aren’t supposed to say
> > costuming
> > anymore LOL
> “differently-wardrobed”? Is that PC enough, as well as totally
> unclear.
>
> > We don’t want another runacc meeting or anything. some of you will
> be in
> > no
> > mood for more meetings I bet.
> Meetings are fine as long as they’re in the bar or the pool.
>
>
> > but we do have some fun things we’d like to do and will need the
> > envolvement
> > of others to make it happen.
> Fun things? Are we still allowed to do fun things? Wow, that would be
> so
> cool!
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
>
>
> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
> ▪ Visit your group “runacc” on the web.
>
> ▪ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> runacc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> ▪ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service.
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
Yahoo! Groups Links

 

Group: runacc Message: 1322 From: Tina Date: 3/27/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 295

I’ll go with that — make mine a mai tai or a daiquiri (a real one, not one of those stupid strawberry or banana things!).

Byron won’t be responding to anything until at least Thursday evening — he’s away at a college on Long Island, working with a Middle States Accreditation team visit.

Since I’m not on ICG-D, I only have a slight inkling of what’s been going on, but I gather that some poops have been trying to impose their (narrow-minded) visualization of the Cosmic All on everybody else. I’m definitely on the side of “fun” — if it wasn’t fun, I wouldn’t be doing it.

Tina

—– Original Message —–
From: Stephanie Carrigg<mailto:bada.boom@comcast.net>
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com<mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [runacc] Digest Number 295

From Nora,
> > We don’t want another runacc meeting or anything. some of you will
> be in
> > no
> > mood for more meetings I bet.
> Meetings are fine as long as they’re in the bar or the pool.

As long as there are LARGE, filled to the rim drinks that contain
copious amounts of booze at said meeting at said bar or pool.

🙂
Stephanie

On Mar 26, 2006, at 2:15 PM, Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:

> Inserted comments – Nora
> —– Original Message —–
> From: “Ricky & Karen Dick” <castleb@atlanticbb.net<mailto:castleb@atlanticbb.net>>
> > The CC forum isn’t up yet as the administrator is at a con this
> weekend.
> > They still do call them cons don’t they?
> > I mean I’m still takig in the part where we aren’t supposed to say
> > costuming
> > anymore LOL
> “differently-wardrobed”? Is that PC enough, as well as totally
> unclear.
>
> > We don’t want another runacc meeting or anything. some of you will
> be in
> > no
> > mood for more meetings I bet.
> Meetings are fine as long as they’re in the bar or the pool.
>
>
> > but we do have some fun things we’d like to do and will need the
> > envolvement
> > of others to make it happen.
> Fun things? Are we still allowed to do fun things? Wow, that would be
> so
> cool!
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/<http://www.costume-con.org/procedure/runacc/>
>
>
> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
> ▪ Visit your group “runacc” on the web.
>
> ▪ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> runacc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<mailto:runacc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com>
>
> ▪ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service.
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/<http://www.costume-con.org/procedure/runacc/>
Yahoo! Groups Links

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1323 From: Elaine Mami Date: 3/27/2006
Subject: Re: Drinking meetings

I am SOOOO going to be at that meeting!

Elaine

Nil significat nisi oscillat!

>
>How about a bar by/at/in the pool? Best of all worlds.
>
>Nora

>
> From Nora,
> > > We don’t want another runacc meeting or anything. some of you will
> > be in
> > > no
> > > mood for more meetings I bet.
> > Meetings are fine as long as they’re in the bar or the pool.
>
>
>As long as there are LARGE, filled to the rim drinks that contain
>copious amounts of booze at said meeting at said bar or pool.
>
>:-)
>Stephanie
>
>On Mar 26, 2006, at 2:15 PM, Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1324 From: martingear Date: 3/27/2006
Subject: Re: Drinking meetings

If the pool is a hot tub, it works even better as the alcohol gets
absorbed quicker. (It sort of helps to have a sober lifeguard on duty tho.)
^M^

Bruce & Nora Mai wrote:

>How about a bar by/at/in the pool? Best of all worlds.
>
>Nor
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1325 From: Kevin Roche Date: 3/27/2006
Subject: Re: Drinking meetings

If you can get me access to the bar supplies, don’t forget I throw a
mean cocktail shaker.

Vespers at vespers, anyone?

Or perhaps a shaker of Expanding Cosmos? (Although the ingredients for
those may be difficult to get at CC24… we can’t ship spirits in our
trunks 🙁 )

Is CC24 going to have a bar in the consuite?

Kevin

martingear wrote:

>If the pool is a hot tub, it works even better as the alcohol gets
>absorbed quicker. (It sort of helps to have a sober lifeguard on duty tho.)
>^M^
>
>
>
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1326 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 3/27/2006
Subject: Re: Drinking meetings

In a message dated 3/26/2006 10:58:40 PM Central Standard Time,
casamai@sbcglobal.net writes:

> How about a bar by/at/in the pool?

Oh, Schweet!
Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1327 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 3/27/2006
Subject: Re: Drinking meetings

In a message dated 3/27/2006 11:56:47 AM Central Standard Time,
kevin@twistedimage.com writes:

> If you can get me access to the bar supplies, don’t forget I throw a
> mean cocktail shaker.
>
> Vespers at vespers, anyone?
>
> Or perhaps a shaker of Expanding Cosmos? (Although the ingredients for
> those may be difficult to get at CC24… we can’t ship spirits in our
> trunks 🙁 )
>
> Is CC24 going to have a bar in the consuite?

Kevin, you silly person! These days, I bring such supplies with me! Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1328 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 3/27/2006
Subject: Way OT – nowhere near the target (Re: [runacc] Drinking meetings)

I beg Karen & Ricky’s forgiveness.

Since their very nice letter about staying on target, there’s been an awful
lot of narfing about drinking- mostly my fault.

I’m sorry, it’s just nice to be able to let off steam & act silly given
what’s been going on….
…elsewhere.

I promise to stop talking about drinking. Unless it specifically relates to
a CC running topic.

Nora

—– Original Message —–
From: <osierhenry@cs.com>
To: <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [runacc] Drinking meetings

> In a message dated 3/27/2006 11:56:47 AM Central Standard Time,
> kevin@twistedimage.com writes:
>> If you can get me access to the bar supplies, don’t forget I throw a
>> mean cocktail shaker.
>>
>> Vespers at vespers, anyone?
>>
>> Or perhaps a shaker of Expanding Cosmos? (Although the ingredients for
>> those may be difficult to get at CC24… we can’t ship spirits in our
>> trunks 🙁 )
>>
>> Is CC24 going to have a bar in the consuite?
> Kevin, you silly person! These days, I bring such supplies with me! Henry
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1329 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 3/27/2006
Subject: Re: Way OT – nowhere near the target (Re: [runacc] Drinking meeting

In a message dated 3/27/2006 6:10:30 PM Central Standard Time,
casamai@sbcglobal.net writes:

> I promise to stop talking about drinking. Unless it specifically relates to
>
> a CC running topic.

Um, how about this: I will be using Martinis to promote my bid, and the con
if I win.
Henry Osier
Chief Spy
CostumeCon 28 Bid in Milwaukee in 2010
e-mail CC2010Milw@cs.com for more information
or visit http://www.geocities.com/dandyhank/CC28Milwaukee2010.html

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1330 From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Drinking meetings

Kevin,

Yes – same as Demicon.

Sandy
At 11:55 AM 3/27/2006, you wrote:

>Or perhaps a shaker of Expanding Cosmos? (Although the ingredients for
>those may be difficult to get at CC24… we can’t ship spirits in our
>trunks 🙁 )
>Is CC24 going to have a bar in the consuite?
>Kevin

“Those Who Fail To Learn History
Are Doomed to Repeat It;
Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly —
Why They Are Simply Doomed.

Achemdro’hm
“The Illusion of Historical Fact”
— C.Y. 4971

Andromeda

 

Group: runacc Message: 1331 From: Kevin Roche Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Drinking meetings

W00t!

Anybody up for a CC-runners meeting/Return of Martini Wars combo?
(I even promise to do some non-gin-based recipes this time)
Kevin

Pierre & Sandy Pettinger wrote:

>Kevin,
>
>Yes – same as Demicon.
>
>Sandy
>
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1332 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Bringing us back from the bar for a moment…
Hi!

I know this sounds too good to be true, but I’m working on the photos
for the archives again.

Kevin’s inspired me.

So, I have discovered a problem with what I presently have in my hands.
Namely: I’m missing all of the historical photos from CC12. Does anyone
have a set I can borrow and scan, or a set that’s already electronic?

I’m going to do the ones I can, and move on to the next set I’ve got
electronically.

I also seem to be missing CC22’s electronic version of photos (and I
would have sworn up one side and down another that I received a disk or
a set of photos or both), but in trying to compile all the disks I still
had to go through, CC22 wasn’t there.

Anything I can do to avoid scanning I’ll do. I have to scan CC1 (the
images I have on the site are not photos but video snaps and they’re
dreadful).

If you can help with either of these gaps in my collection, I’d very
much appreciate it. I’ve got other ways to get the images if I can’t
deal with actual photos, but the video snaps are much lower quality in
many cases (even on a DVD, the image is reduced by the abilities of the
camera, and many white or shiny costumes are complete washouts as a result).

I’m working my way through CC12 because it’s sitting on my computer
taking up space. I have CC21 and 23 on disk, so there’s no worries there.

And I have a black and white “memory book” from CC20, which I’m going to
use for the purposes of grabbing temporary images, since video snaps
take a LOT more time. (And my DVD-ROM doesn’t like the Archive DVDs – I
can’t see the menu, and can’t start the video as a result, so I’ll have
to rig something else to get the images, or use a different computer or
DVD player.)

AHH – Katie just dumped water all over herself. And folks wonder why
this job is taking so long!!!

-b


Betsy Delaney
*************************************************************************
http://www.hawkeswood.com/ * http://www.OutOftheBlackBox.org/
http://www.BarkingMad.org/ * http://www.sickpups.org/
http://www.Costume-Con.org/ * http://www.SchoolWithoutWalls.org/
*************************************************************************

 

Group: runacc Message: 1333 From: Ricky & Karen Dick Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297
Nora and all,
Trust me, I would MUCH rather talk about drinking.

especially when the choice is drinking with you folks, or dealing with stuff
on another list.

I find it sad/funny/reassuring?
that so many people on this list have a very good relationship with the
bottle LOL.
I wonder if it was so, BEFORE we all got this involved with the hobby;-)

Ricky

 

Group: runacc Message: 1334 From: Karen Heim Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 12:48:41 -0500
“Ricky & Karen Dick” <castleb@atlanticbb.net> wrote:

> Nora and all,
> Trust me, I would MUCH rather talk about drinking.

I would rather *be* drinking, not talking about it.

>
> especially when the choice is drinking with you folks,
>or dealing with stuff
> on another list.

. . . which drives you to drink. But, in comparison with
other conventions I attend, CC has very little drinking
going on.

>
> I find it sad/funny/reassuring?
> that so many people on this list have a very good
>relationship with the
> bottle LOL.
> I wonder if it was so, BEFORE we all got this involved
>with the hobby;-)
>

I certainly did.

A few years ago here we had a series of parties that
featured a particular type of alcohol, and had a
historical theme appropriate to the alcohol (such as the
Bay of Pigs crisis for the rum party, and Khruschev
visiting the US for the vodka party). Everyone dressed
appropriately for the period, the food went with the theme
– it was a fun time.

See, there’s the catch – costuming drives us to drink, and
drinking inspires us to costume! It’s a vicious circle.

Karen

 

Group: runacc Message: 1335 From: bada.boom@comcast.net Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297
Nothing like having costumes that match your drinks!

Ricky I think we need a Castle Blood punch..
I’m sure I can come up with something..

Stephie

————– Original message ————–
From: “Ricky & Karen Dick” <castleb@atlanticbb.net>
Nora and all,
Trust me, I would MUCH rather talk about drinking.

especially when the choice is drinking with you folks, or dealing with stuff
on another list.

I find it sad/funny/reassuring?
that so many people on this list have a very good relationship with the
bottle LOL.
I wonder if it was so, BEFORE we all got this involved with the hobby;-)

Ricky

View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/

YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS

Visit your group “runacc” on the web.

To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
runacc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1336 From: Trudy Leonard Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Bringing us back from the bar for a moment…

Betsy –

I have an inquiry in with Vickie as to whether or not we ever donated a set
of prints to the Archives or not, and, if not, could we do so now. She is
checking to see if they still are able to send you a set if it turns out
that we did not do so at the time of the Con. I have the original prints
and could probably scan those for you.

Trudy

>From: Betsy Delaney <bdelaney@hawkeswood.com>
>Reply-To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
>To: Run a Costume-Con Mailing List <runacc@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [runacc] Bringing us back from the bar for a moment…
>Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:22:32 -0500
>
>Hi!
>
>I know this sounds too good to be true, but I’m working on the photos
>for the archives again.
>
>Kevin’s inspired me.
>
>So, I have discovered a problem with what I presently have in my hands.
>Namely: I’m missing all of the historical photos from CC12. Does anyone
>have a set I can borrow and scan, or a set that’s already electronic?
>
>I’m going to do the ones I can, and move on to the next set I’ve got
>electronically.
>
>I also seem to be missing CC22’s electronic version of photos (and I
>would have sworn up one side and down another that I received a disk or
>a set of photos or both), but in trying to compile all the disks I still
>had to go through, CC22 wasn’t there.
>
>Anything I can do to avoid scanning I’ll do. I have to scan CC1 (the
>images I have on the site are not photos but video snaps and they’re
>dreadful).
>
>If you can help with either of these gaps in my collection, I’d very
>much appreciate it. I’ve got other ways to get the images if I can’t
>deal with actual photos, but the video snaps are much lower quality in
>many cases (even on a DVD, the image is reduced by the abilities of the
>camera, and many white or shiny costumes are complete washouts as a
>result).
>
>I’m working my way through CC12 because it’s sitting on my computer
>taking up space. I have CC21 and 23 on disk, so there’s no worries there.
>
>And I have a black and white “memory book” from CC20, which I’m going to
>use for the purposes of grabbing temporary images, since video snaps
>take a LOT more time. (And my DVD-ROM doesn’t like the Archive DVDs – I
>can’t see the menu, and can’t start the video as a result, so I’ll have
>to rig something else to get the images, or use a different computer or
>DVD player.)
>
>AHH – Katie just dumped water all over herself. And folks wonder why
>this job is taking so long!!!
>
>-b
>–
>–
>Betsy Delaney
>*************************************************************************
> http://www.hawkeswood.com/ * http://www.OutOftheBlackBox.org/
> http://www.BarkingMad.org/ * http://www.sickpups.org/
> http://www.Costume-Con.org/ * http://www.SchoolWithoutWalls.org/
>*************************************************************************

 

Group: runacc Message: 1337 From: Betsy Delaney Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Bringing us back from the bar for a moment…

Update:

I found the photos from CC22. I still think there might have been a disk
involved, but if I have to scan the photos I can. It’s going to wait
until I have the electronic ones done first, though.

Thanks!

Betsy

Betsy Delaney wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I know this sounds too good to be true, but I’m working on the photos
> for the archives again.
>
> Kevin’s inspired me.
>
> So, I have discovered a problem with what I presently have in my hands.
> Namely: I’m missing all of the historical photos from CC12. Does anyone
> have a set I can borrow and scan, or a set that’s already electronic?
>
> I’m going to do the ones I can, and move on to the next set I’ve got
> electronically.
>
> I also seem to be missing CC22’s electronic version of photos (and I
> would have sworn up one side and down another that I received a disk or
> a set of photos or both), but in trying to compile all the disks I still
> had to go through, CC22 wasn’t there.
>
> Anything I can do to avoid scanning I’ll do. I have to scan CC1 (the
> images I have on the site are not photos but video snaps and they’re
> dreadful).
>
> If you can help with either of these gaps in my collection, I’d very
> much appreciate it. I’ve got other ways to get the images if I can’t
> deal with actual photos, but the video snaps are much lower quality in
> many cases (even on a DVD, the image is reduced by the abilities of the
> camera, and many white or shiny costumes are complete washouts as a result).
>
> I’m working my way through CC12 because it’s sitting on my computer
> taking up space. I have CC21 and 23 on disk, so there’s no worries there.
>
> And I have a black and white “memory book” from CC20, which I’m going to
> use for the purposes of grabbing temporary images, since video snaps
> take a LOT more time. (And my DVD-ROM doesn’t like the Archive DVDs – I
> can’t see the menu, and can’t start the video as a result, so I’ll have
> to rig something else to get the images, or use a different computer or
> DVD player.)
>
> AHH – Katie just dumped water all over herself. And folks wonder why
> this job is taking so long!!!
>
> -b



Betsy Delaney
*************************************************************************
http://www.hawkeswood.com/ * http://www.OutOftheBlackBox.org/
http://www.BarkingMad.org/ * http://www.sickpups.org/
http://www.Costume-Con.org/ * http://www.SchoolWithoutWalls.org/
*************************************************************************

 

Group: runacc Message: 1338 From: Elaine Mami Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297

Something red, perhaps, with little pickled onions in them. <<slurp>>
(Sorry, Boss)

Elaine

Nil significat nisi oscillat!

>
>Nothing like having costumes that match your drinks!
>
>Ricky I think we need a Castle Blood punch..
>I’m sure I can come up with something..
>
>Stephie

 

Group: runacc Message: 1339 From: bruno Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297

I was surprised at how much drinking there was at CC23. There seemed to be much more going on, than at previous CC’s (19, 17, 16). So I didn’t come prepared. I’ll be prepared for CC24 🙂

Michael

> ——-Original Message——-
> From: Karen Heim <axejudge@accessus.net>

> > especially when the choice is drinking with you folks,
> >or dealing with stuff
> > on another list.
>
> . . . which drives you to drink.  But, in comparison with
> other conventions I attend, CC has very little drinking
> going on.
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1340 From: Elaine Mami Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: drinking at CCs

To keep this related to costuming – drinking IN the pool or hot tub greatly
reduces the chance of ruining your costume with those nasty alcohol stains.

YMMV,

Elaine

Nil significat nisi oscillat!

>I was surprised at how much drinking there was at CC23. There seemed to be
>much more going on, than at previous CC’s (19, 17, 16). So I didn’t come
>prepared. I’ll be prepared for CC24 🙂
>
>
>Michael
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1341 From: bruno Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297

I’d suggest a Blood Shot. In a shot glass, pour 2/3 Chambord, 1/3 Vampire Vodka. Makes a nice dark red drink. The Chambord takes the edge of the vodka. Warning, it does stain.

http://vampire.com/vampyre/index.html

Michael

> ——-Original Message——-
> From: bada.boom@comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [runacc] Digest Number 297
> Sent: 28 Mar ’06 18:07
>
> Nothing like having costumes that match your drinks!
>
> Ricky I think we need a Castle Blood punch..
> I’m sure I can come up with something..
>
> Stephie
>
>
> ————– Original message ————–
> From: “Ricky & Karen Dick” <castleb@atlanticbb.net>
> Nora and all,
> Trust me, I would MUCH rather talk about drinking.
>
> especially when the choice is drinking with you folks, or dealing with stuff
> on another list.
>
> I find it sad/funny/reassuring?
> that so many people on this list have a very good relationship with the
> bottle LOL.
> I wonder if it was so, BEFORE we all got this involved with the hobby;-)
>
> Ricky
>
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
>
>
>
>
> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
> Visit your group “runacc” on the web.
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> runacc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

 

Group: runacc Message: 1342 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297

On Mar 28, 2006, at 10:01 AM, Karen Heim wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 12:48:41 -0500
> “Ricky & Karen Dick” <castleb@atlanticbb.net> wrote:
>> Nora and all,
>> Trust me, I would MUCH rather talk about drinking.
>
> I would rather *be* drinking, not talking about it.

I think we’re going to use shipping to conserve weight in our Des
Moines luggage and make space for a few bottles and each do a carry-on
4-box of bottles.

Definitely in the mix is
Wasabi Vodka (it’s very green, and it will blow the back of your head
off)
“Qi” Lapsang Souchong Tea LIqueur (good if there’s a Tibetan Panel Coat
reunion)
“Junipero” gin for Henry


andy trembley, Bitchy Design Queen
http://www.bovil.com/
“It’s not pink; it’s peach-colored. Pink is tacky.” –Manfred Pfirsich
Marie Rommel

 

Group: runacc Message: 1343 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Drinking meetings

In a message dated 3/28/2006 12:30:05 AM Central Standard Time,
kevin@twistedimage.com writes:

>
> Anybody up for a CC-runners meeting/Return of Martini Wars combo?

I mix a mean martini! Kevin, let me know what you will need. I’m driving in!
Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1344 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297

In a message dated 3/28/2006 2:28:40 PM Central Standard Time,
attrembl@bovil.com writes:

> I think we’re going to use shipping to conserve weight in our Des
> Moines luggage and make space for a few bottles and each do a carry-on
> 4-box of bottles.

Andy,
I’ll bring that good California vermouth, and get a bottle of Lillet.
Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1345 From: osierhenry@cs.com Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297

In a message dated 3/28/2006 1:19:12 PM Central Standard Time,
ecmami@hotmail.com writes:

> Something red, perhaps, with little pickled onions in them.

I have a plethora of cocktail onions! I’ll bring them!
Henry

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1346 From: Bruce & Nora Mai Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: drinking at CCs
And if anyone needs any recipesfro anything odd, let me know. I find
cocktail books irresistible – the pictures are so colorful.
May I also refer you all to Modern Drunkard magazine – it’s a lifestyle.

Nora

 

Group: runacc Message: 1347 From: Ricky & Karen Dick Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: drinking at CCs

I guess if we were actually smart, while we still don’t want a real meeting, I think a friday morning drink athon instead of the ICG meeting would work well.

WHAT!?!, you’re all thinkin it, I’m just sayin it LOL

Ricky

—– Original Message —–
From: Bruce & Nora Mai
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [runacc] drinking at CCs

And if anyone needs any recipesfro anything odd, let me know. I find
cocktail books irresistible – the pictures are so colorful.
May I also refer you all to Modern Drunkard magazine – it’s a lifestyle.

Nora

View the Document: http://www.Costume-Con.org/procedure/runacc/

——————————————————————————
YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS

a.. Visit your group “runacc” on the web.

b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
runacc-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

——————————————————————————

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1348 From: Ricky & Karen Dick Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297
AAACCKK , c’mon guys, don’t gay up alchoholism would ya 😉
(Please don’t be offended, it’s a real phrase right? I mean, I think I heard it at the republican convention once LOL)

There’s gotta be some local DesMoines Bilge water Beer we can find.

Ricky

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

Group: runacc Message: 1349 From: Andrew T Trembley Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 297

On Mar 28, 2006, at 5:01 PM, Ricky & Karen Dick wrote:

> There’s gotta be some local DesMoines Bilge water Beer we can find.

There’s a microbrewery right next to the Hotel Fort Des Moines.
Bilgewater it ain’t.

I’m not sure you’re butch enough to drink the Wasabi Vodka, though.


andy trembley, Bitchy Design Queen – http://www.bovil.com/
San Jose, CA – ’72 R75/5 ’86 R100 (mine) – ’92 K75sa ’03 R1150R
(Kevin’s)
…remaining .sig trimmed for better message/.sig ratio

 

Group: runacc Message: 1350 From: Tina Date: 3/28/2006
Subject: Re: drinking at CCs

This is certainly proving to be a popular (and entertaining, in both senses of the word) topic. May I introduce a drink that we invented many years ago, when we used to really party: the Rhonda. It was named for a friend of ours, an attractive redhead. Take equal parts of rum, vodka and blue curacao; 1/2 oz. of each equals the standard jigger, but we used to mix them a bit stronger than that and mixed them by the pitcherful. Place in a tall glass (or pitcher, if mixing in quantity), add some ice, and then top up with lemonade. Tastes absolutely harmless, but they’re sneaky if one goes by the taste and laps up a couple in quick succession. (Reminds me of my mother’s story about how one of my uncles got her blitzed on grasshoppers when she was 16.) Rhondas used to be very popular back when we used to throw house parties. They also look really neat in a wineglass. I used to drink them at cons before the East Coast cons went dry and, when asked what I was drinking, would say “I’m drinking sapphire wine.” Sometimes people would get it.

The Chambord & vodka sounds good, but I have a bottle of Cherry Kijafa downstairs calling to me, and I think I’m going to go down now and see how well that works in a cocktail. For a red drink, there’s also the bottled pomegranate juice (Pom) that is out in the supermarkets. It looks like we could have a lot of fun developing a Castle Blood cocktail with red stuff. Or green stuff. Whatever. Lichees might work if the onions didn’t taste right. Start thinking of good names for it/them.

Tina

—– Original Message —–
From: Bruce & Nora Mai<mailto:casamai@sbcglobal.net>
To: runacc@yahoogroups.com<mailto:runacc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [runacc] drinking at CCs

And if anyone needs any recipes fro anything odd, let me know. I find
cocktail books irresistible – the pictures are so colorful.
May I also refer you all to Modern Drunkard magazine – it’s a lifestyle.

Nora

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]